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It together. Thats what he was like did for me her i Got News For You, catch the premier again . I didnt nine on cnn this is gps, the global public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and around The World. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from kyiv, the capital of Ukraine Program ill bring you an exclusive interview with president Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I think this war changed all of us. Ill ask him about Ukraines Incursion into russia. I struggled to defend its own ask whether Peace Negotiations are in the office and what he will tell President Biden when he visits the u. S. This mug ukrainian who has been tirelessly defending of vital stronghold against russia tell us about the incredible difficult fight be faces we will win we will not exist finally past two years, weve introduced you to young ukrainians bearing their wisdom about the horrors of war. Its really hard to leave with a fault that your father can die now tragedy has struck for one of them were bring you bashi storage and more on this Special Edition of gps first heres my take coming to kyiv from the United States is bracing experience the one ukraine has become a familiar part of the political debate in America Democrats promised to stand with ukraine from declares he could end the war in a day. I get it, but it all has an air of abstraction, an ongoing conversation that could keep going but in ukraine, the mood Fields Role tense, and urgent this is a different city than the one i visited about this time in 2022. And 2023. The situation in ukraine is critical. The next few months might well determine the outcome of this War Kyiv feels less safe coming here for the annual Yalta European Strategy conference. Even during the war, ive always found it surprisingly normal no longer. The number of russian aerial attacks have gone up substantially. Few missiles get through. But the psychological effect is intense the night before i arrived dozens of airraid sirens pierced the night and you could hear the booms. Mostly not of missiles, but antimissile batteries more wearing on the population than the threat of missiles is the reality of power outages. Russia has been attacking Ukraines Energy Infrastructure with brutal persistence and alas considerable success they have used the iranian developed Shahid Drones and have received a recent shipments of iranian ballistic missiles, which may well be unleashed on ukraines power grid. In the next Weeks Power outages, even in kyiv are a regular feature of life often lasting four hours sources in Ukraines Government telling me that these blackouts have made Work And Life so difficult that it has caused a fresh exodus of people out of the country. I dont want to exaggerate or paint to gloomier picture. Kyiv remains a bustling, lively, beautiful city the streets and parks are filled with people going to work, shopping, or just walking handinhand but everywhere there are reminders of the worst current phase you see large billboards urging ukrainians to sign up for the armed forces. There is lots of Construction Activity rebuilding what the russians have destroyed and there are captured russian tanks, proudly displayed in st. Michaels square just over a month ago, ukrainian forces surprise The World by moving into Russia And Capturing hundreds of square miles of its Kursk Region. It was a huge Morale Boost for the ukrainians soldiers and civilians who desperately needed it but now a realization has set in that it has not caused much of a change in the basic dynamics of the war in fact, many now question whether it was a mistake by diverting some of ukraines best troops to the mission. Did the government leave exposed key areas of the 750 mile Front Line where russia is now poised to make gains whatever the reason, its clear that russian forces are advancing towards the city of pokrovsk. A vital logistical center if it were to fall, russia would come closer to its goal of taking the entire donbas which would be a brutal blow to ukrainian morale and would substantially changed facts on the ground. We would return to a situation like that in february and March Of 2022 when russian forces were steadily advancing through the eastern south of ukraine. For the first time since the Invasion Russia recently struck an international Cargo Ship loaded with grain in the Black Sea, headed for egypt if commercial vessels begin to shy away from the Black Sea it would reverse one of ukraines greatest achievements during this war, maintaining the ability to ship its grain and other exports at high levels. The economic element of the war does not get enough attention. But ukraine needs whatever cash it can get. Its arms industry, for example, needs more investment so that it can like russia, produce weapons on a near continuous basis the greatest fear in ukraine, however one that i heard often and for many people, both in government and on the streets, is not about their resolve but rather the west. And in particular, the United Statess one ukrainian who prefer to remain anonymous told me we will never become a russian colony. We will keep fighting but we worry that we will be fighting alone the delay in american aid during the last year caused by in infighting amongst stubborn republicans in congress has contributed to the deterioration of the situation on the ground and many now fear what would happen if Donald Trump wins in November Kristie calculate the former president of estonia told me this war is a struggle of Will Putin is in it to win. And he has transformed his economy into a war machine. Spending something like seven or 8 of gdp on his war of aggression the west is spending roughly 0. 2 of its gdp, helping ukraine defend itself if we could even double that figure, we could bankrupt putin the discussion in the west needs to move from Area Abstractions to urgent Reality Ukraine needs help on all fronts, economic, political, and military, and it needs that help now the biden administration should recognize that there is a chance that the next four months of aid to ukraine will be the last major american help to that country. An act accordingly better the hope for the best and plan for the worst go to cnn. Com fareed for link to my Washington Post Column this week and lets get started main event, my exclusive interview with Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. We met friday in kyiv and i wanted to first understand how he saw the current state of the War Mr. President, pleasure to see you again. One more. September in kyiv this one feels like it is happening at a very important moment on the battlefield ukrainian forces went into the Kursk Region in russia, a large amount of territory there has that worked. There. There are people in ukraine who worry that you took forces away from the donbass and that those lines are now fragile and weak. Even though you have achieved success in of course, thanks so much thank you for this possibility to speak for it so first of all, we had very tough situation on the east, especially on the east in Kharkiv Region in Donbass Region in some, of these direction, is buladar is pokrovsk is myrnohrad. Its a lot of different cities people know about only pokrovsk, but youre right. That this situation was very difficult and they moved very quickly because we didnt have equipment again, when we speak about equipment, how to equip brigades really between us it doesnt matter how many brigades stand on one direction. If half of them not equipped so would you just lose a lot of people . You lose people because theyre not in armored vehicles or in something like this they dont have artillery, they dont have artillery rounds to compare the Number Russia uses 12th rounds we used one 11 to 12. That was a difference. Of course. That idea with the kursk, the Risk Operation is through where understood it the idea was to move some russian forces. There. And i think it was right idea you know, weve talked about munition as often and you talk about it a lot. Help us understand the u. S. Has passed this big aid package. Europe has passed aid packages. Why is that not translating . Its leading into enough munitions for you. Now is, is it is it that there isnt enough supply or is it that you need more aid . Everything a lot of different reasons. First, it goes very slowly second, we need 14 brigades to be ready until now we. Dont have from these package on brigades we did in the grip even for, you wanted to equip 14 brigades and we wanted you have not been able to now for an too much. Is too much for him for thats why we used our Interior Production of draws, not enough, but we did it it goes as i said to you that that than after eight Months Pause in decision before the positive decision of us congress what we did during these all eight months, everybody has to understand. We used all we could were moved what we have in reserve in resorts and what we have in storages or what resorts brigades who who, who we need now, what they had, we took all their weapon you have also been trying to persuade the United States and europe to allow you to use the weaponry to strike into russia explained why this is important. What do you want to the hit in russia that you think you should be allowed to hit everybody is looking the decision of the United States. Everybody is waiting for sides decisions. After that, they make decisions is true. And so we wanted to or image to use this weapon and just to attack these jets on the military basis, not Civilians Infrastructure military bail just want to be able to attack us the basis that are being used to launch these weapons, these planes, these missiles, because these Jazz Hurry at these jets these jets from there, they use not only missiles they use these jets and jets used per months 4,000 guided aerial bombs on just on the east of our terry 4,000 bombs. And these bombs and missiles are hitting ukrainian civilians, schools, energies you know whats this . All our energy infrastructure. They destroyed 80 by these guided bombs. 80 . Now i said, we had some meetings with officials and i said we waited too long. Now, russia began to move that jets from 100, 150 kilometers, 300 to 500 after that, i will tell you that now we need more permissions to you have permission now to know till now know next on gps from war to peace, perhaps President Zelenskyy will meet with President Biden later this month. Zelenskyy says he will present his american counterpart with a Peace Plan i asked him whats in it when we come back premieres next sunday at nine on cnn i thought i knew a lot about our irish roots i was surprised to learn so many more things. The Family Name 91892. Wow. How and heres the boat they came over on yes wow yeah i can do a cartwheel in here would you like to join us now . We would love to join you pods biggest sale of the summer. Save up to 25 on moving in storage for a limited time in Cy Pods has been trusted with over 6 Million moves, but dont wait, use Promo Code big 25 to save visit hot. Com today our right to reproductive Health Care is being stolen from us. 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Com today President Zelenskyy says he will present Joe Biden with a Peace Plan when the two meet later this month, i asked President Zelenskyy about it during my interview mr. President, youve talked a lot about how you also have a path to peace that you your Military Strategy is designed to make putin understand he cannot win. Are you going to talk to President Biden when you, when you submit it . In New York about this plan for peace yes, i will speak with him how to strengthen ours before summit to be in a strong position because diplomatic decisions and or solutions theyre good when you are strong otherwise, putin will not even. I mean, this take place in it. And i think otherwise they will be not interested in any kind of circumstances. How they can Stop The War thats why i have the plan. Yes. Victorious plan. Because for us is victory can we worry strong and be ready for the strong diplomacy thats why ive paired samples, four of them, the basic points plus one which we need after the war. So i will share with biden. Its about security security. Its about geopolitical place for ukraine is very strong Military Support and available for us so for us, and that we have to be free how to use one or another item. Its about economical support, decisions, but which will the i think interesting, but i think that main thing we are ready if our plan President Biden will well, value. And the Whale Support an if he and his team can add something which will give us more strong, less position will be ready. Will you present this plan to Donald Trump im ready. Im ready to share it with the President Biden and of course, i think it will be will be honest and right to share with two candidates with Donald Trump, with kamala harris. And also, i think that a lot of things depends on decision of the congress of the United States to share it with you congress, after these steps were ready to share it with people, how did you understand Donald Trump when he said, i can solve this war, i can end this war within a few days. If i get elected even before im president , thatd be able to solve it. I cant understand it. Her today because i dont know the details of what was who was here mens and what what does it mean my position that Election Period and election messages are election message just sometimes they are not very real. And thats why i think this these messages can have not very it can make us norris all of our people. Of course, of course. But i had i had Phone Call with Donald Trump and he said that he is very supportive and we had good conversation. Thats why this is recently when was i had only one during this period, yes, it was i think tomorrow you will be aware is supportive and he is he understands how is difficult to survive during the war, and he will do everything to strengthen ukraine. I didnt know. I mean, thats great, that it sounds this way and but thats why i want to share this plan to hear his reaction what do you think is going on in Putins Mind because putin has recently said hes willing to have negotiations, but he talks about what, What Histones Star is essentially total surrender for ukraine. I think i think he is he didnt change his smith main idea and sometimes hes playing just for Summer Leaders who are waiting some emotions from putin to hear something about this at sometimes he can give some messages to Globals House or somewhere and they began to speak. You see, there begins, you see putin is ready for dialogue what hes there and he fis the theyre not . Unitere, where th have different inrests and i think th is a Problem Tha that his mission is not to Stop The War he dsnt wanto stop anything cause he doesnt need and He Afraid very much of successful ukraine its not about even victory, but then how will the War End because youre not going to get a total victory . Se going to drive him out of all of the donbas and crimea. Hes not going to be able to occupy kyiv so there will have to be some Compromise Promise when youre very strong when you very strong, and other side knows that you are wearing a stroke and you are as strong as possible to make influence on his society not to be wearing a happy with it this war, because He Afraid. Again, i repeated again and again because im sure He Afraid on the one thing no leaders no countries no, nothing. He afraid of his suicide. Russian people. And if russian people are in danger if they. Dont have comfortable life, if theyre live without energy like our people, they will understand the price of the war and they will be not happy with it and they will begin to infant on him, on putin. Thats why i sat make ukraine strong and you will see that he will sit and negotiate next on gps Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been precedent of ukraine for nearly two i was in days now when we come back i asked him about how his extraordinary time in Office Mightve changed him Got News For You are pretty odd. Yeah. What are the kinds we could run on the news before then would never happen if i Got News For You, catch the premier again tonight at nine on cnn with chyme, i can get paid when i want. Why do we accept waiting two weeks for payday . I work hard every day, but i dont get paid every day because of chyme. I dont have to wait to get paid anymore. With my pay, i can get up to 500 of my pay on my schedule. Theres no interests, no credit checks, no mandatory fees. 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I mean, when we first met, youre wearing a suit how does it how has this war changed . You me, very honest, i think this were changed hamas is through the worse The World was on the, on the east and here in the capital, in other regions, especially on the the west and even on the south, which is closer to the iss. But anyway, people didnt feel didnt feel more water in our mind. Were in lets take tickle that the war is very far. Now, this mistake in some minds and some of our colleagues who are in europe, they think that the war is far from now. By the way, 800 from kyiv to the iss, to the point where the war was from 20 800 kilometers, like the distance between our border and a lot of european countries. So the word is very close, but we dont know about it and dont believe in it until the war came everywhere to ukraine. After 2022 came everywhere to all the families and of course it changed all of us, all ukrainians and our, all our families are divided families to kill a lot of lives, a lot of Human Loss theres a lot of destroyed ever seen what we value and brought Nothing Nothing Nothing good. So its changed all of us, but i think the most important if this war can change europe can change The World. This is very important. They have to understand that the work is close otherwise, if it will not change, european The World, otherwise, if The World will not understand that, we have to live in unique otherwise, putin or some similar guys, you know, that can divide The World and can eat this business like a pie thats why we this unity then i hall that these were changed minds of people and change minds of litter of global countries we count on it. Mr. President. Thank you for being with us. Thanks so much for thank you for errors coming up next on gps. 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Millions of kids, more than half of the Countrys Child Population well forced to flee their homes many watch their own Family Members head to the frontlines russian bombs rain down on their cities and their schools. And less than a year, more than 2,600 schools were damaged or destroyed most schools in the country closed for a period of time we made a trip to kyiv what i wanted to understand how the war was affecting ukraines young people who were returning to school for the first time in months. We gathered a group of students students who are all impressive. But a girl named mahsa stood out, especially with a message to Vladimir Putin i urge you to wizz it all of this places that were destroyed by your soldiers. But your Decision And Talk to all of the people whose lives were destroyed by you the warhead practically come to Marshes Backyard when russia invaded but when we spoke to her the second time in September 2023 it had actually hit home with her father on the Front Line and do you get reports back from him i do. But its not very often and it has been five days since he was on his phone. So i dont know but it was like the Starlink Wasnt working very well. So i think everythings okay. I hope so. Thats extraordinary feeling where like you, if youve been hearing from him every couple of days and then you dont hear you. You wonder why you didnt hear yeah, thats right. And its adjusted. The internet is down or is it something the hardest thing because you dont know and you dont know what the time when youre going to get a message from him . And youre donald. If youre going to get the message from king yeah. Thats the hardest part i sat down with marsha this week to hear her story. I remember when i asked you about your father you said that you didnt know where he was . Yeah. Then you were worried that there may be some trouble with the internet. That hadnt been able to be in touch with them . Yeah. Because they said that was just like something wrong with sterling. So i just saw the its okay. Like hes all right. Just he can text me and thats the only problem but unfortunately, that was not the problem. So few days after we talked, it turned out he had been killed how it was a bomb or killed him and the other guys with Him September and the next day, he was planning to go to bakhmut to take some weapons and things and the night before, he was killed, russia when did you find out that he was dead he wasnt a mother for told me that i remember it was after school she was waiting for me not in her car is usual usually she waits for me in her car and im just sitting. Were going home but i remember that i saw her just like in front of her car and i was like, this when its just ends in there then there was the phrase that your dead how did you react stunned i just remembered. I couldnt really believe that. Of course when their father is on the war there, isa, some possibility he can be killed. But i just my father was so optimistic about things and he has he had a lot of plants about his life. And i was just very full and i believe some hateland i believed in his life and then theres like his dad it just the moment when you realized It Everything can happen in this life and it just can turn to the other side told me about what kind of manworthy hes definitely is bravest person that i have ever known and as i said, he was always very optimistic about things and i just i think thats what meet here. I have in common because were just really too optimists if you have a message for him, if you could say one thing to him we wish you had said, is that something that you that you didnt say that i am proud to be his daughter when we talked last year, i also asked you, what would you tell putin . And youd said you wished he could come and see the Death And Destruction that his policies are producing today. If if you had a message for putin, what would it be . I have no words left to him our harris just hate father died, because of him and there is no dialogue with such people or you want to do is just here did you in the days after did you have a sense of bitterness . Why did this its happened. He shouldnt have volunteered its only human that i remember thinking like why my father i couldnt really think other things just like, why is he why is putin just sitting there alive and making all of this terrible decisions . And my father is the person that i had this huge bond in my life and one of the closest people in my life and hes dead now and i can see his smile just in the photos in my phone. Are his grave. I just i was heartbroken, obviously. Masha. Thank you for sharing this with us. I know its hard so much story. How does it bernie bro, become a protrump Social Media . Superstar. Maga communist, you know, people watching cnn, i going to say, youre crazy. The whole story with Anderson Cooper Tonight at 8 00 on cnn okay. Ready. One more 12 and three not so fast the generals coming with you, mom, he gave us a regular occurrence. Sheerans and hell look after you to yep. With flexible Payment Options for new drivers. Okay. 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I spoke to Yegor Fists off, achieved sergeant in the army he oversees more than a dozen soldiers in a drone Attack Unit hes just back from the Frontlines Station between pokrovsk and toretsk. Both tactically vital cities in the east that are under consistent barrage of attacks from russian forces you on. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for your support tell me were all trying to understand what is it like . To be on the Front Lines where exactly are you . There is like hard situation, difficult Situation Stuff all, i should say, is it like on the one hand, russians have like suffer heavy load we destroyed a lot of objects of russians like tanks but another hand. We have a serious problem with our infinitely i mean, our soldiers so are tired, Tired Ness is one of the reason our crisis, because theyve been out on the, on the Front Lines for almost three years. Yeah, very patiently absolutely. You go let me ask you, are you are you nervous doing this interview no, because my nervous left in tranches a lot of time. I am not nervous i have after having better battle to vote for cnn has not. Yeah, absolutely. Now, i am like i have relaxed here. Yes, i have several days for for Xetra Lox after days, i will back and front Line Zone and from pokrovsk. And unfortunately, i dont no Pokrovsk City or not . Our zewde several days. You think its that close . Yeah, absolutely. Yeah so people can understand how much the situation has changed. My understanding is pokrovsk months ago was like keith helps a look absolutely. Your cafes people, 100 . I sad. That point. Every where that life of pokrovsk if we compare with scif, is this same life was before even several months ago and unfortunately, i should say, is that pokrovsk is becoming like Dave Car and bakhmut so the city has been destroyed theres a bombardment. Yeah, absolutely. Without the people every day. And most of the people fled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah city of 100,000 or at times, majority of people paul left. Of course you are worried that pokrovsk will fall . Yes now, youve just had a change in your Family Life yes. One week ago, i became father. Yes. Now, i have a daughter elisabeth and its big motivation for me. And it big reason to continue our fight maybe shaye is dislike changing my life my thoughts. This week big either know i can explain to how will it change, whats it making you think were like Runs Possibility yeah more. Its understanding why why should we fight yes and i i do want that in my children will not fight i. Do want that to my childrens will not know what is what is war, what is fighting . Yes. And i understand that i should continue that war so that will finish that and well win you fight so that your daughter will not have to find yeah, absolutely. Bigger pleasure to have you on thank you so much. Thanks to all of you for being part of my program from kyiv this week. 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