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Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you from kyiv, the capital of ukraine ill bring you for an exclusive interview with president Volodymyr Zelenskyy. I think this war changed all of us. Ill ask him about Ukraines Incursion into russia i had struggled to defend its own territory in the East Negotiation james are in the Offing President biden when he visits the u. S. This Mug Talk to a ukrainian who has been tirelessly defending of vital stronghold against russia tell us about the incredible difficult fight he faces we will win, or we will not exist. Finally War Is Hell past two years. Weve introduced you to a young ukrainian since sharing their wisdom about the horrors of war its really hard to leave with a fault that your father can die now tragedy has struck for one of them were bring you Mahsa Storage and more on this Special Edition of gps coming to kyiv from the united states is bracing experience. The one ukraine has become a familiar part of the political debate in America Democrats promised to stand with ukraine from declares he could end the war in a day but it all has an air of abstraction, an ongoing conversation that could keep going but in ukraine, the mood fields role, tense, and urgent this is a different city than The One i visited about this time in 2022 and 2023 the situation in ukraine is critical. And the next few months might well determine the outcome of this War Kyiv feels less safe coming here for the annual Yalta European Strategy conference. Even during the war, ive always found it surprisingly normal no longer the number of russian aerial attacks have gone up substantially. Few missiles get through. But the psychological effect is intense before i arrived dozens of airraid sirens pierced the night and you could hear the booms, mostly not of missiles, but antimissile batteries more wearing on the population than the threat of missiles is the reality of power Outages Russia has been attacking Ukraines Energy Infrastructure with brutal persistence and alas considerable success. They have used the iranian developed Shaheed Drones and have received a recent shipment of iranian ballistic missiles which may well be unleashed on ukraines power grid. In the next Weeks Power outages, even in kyiv, are regular feature of life. Often lasting four hours. Sources in Ukraines Government tells me that these blackouts have made Work And Life so difficult. That it has caused a fresh exodus of people out of the country. I dont want to exaggerate or paint two gloomier Picture Kyiv remains a bustling, lively, beautiful city. The streets and parks are filled with people going to work, shopping, or just walking handinhand. But everywhere there are reminders of the wars current phase. You see large billboards urging ukrainians to sign up for the Armed Forces there is lots of Construction Activity rebuilding what the russians have destroyed and there are captured russian tanks proudly displayed in st. Michaels square month ago, ukrainian forces surprise the world by moving into russia. And Capturing Hundreds Of Square Miles of its Kursk Region it was a huge Morale Boost for the ukrainians, soldiers and civilians who desperately needed it but now a realization has set in that it has not caused much of a change in the basic dynamics of the war. In fact, many now question whether it was a mistake by diverting some of ukraines best troops to the mission did the government leave exposed key areas of the 750 mile Front Line where russia is now poised to make gains whatever the reason, its clear that russian forces are advancing towards the city of Pokrovsk A Vital Logistical Center if it were to fall russia would come closer to its goal of taking the entire donbas which would be a brutal blow to ukrainian morale and would substantially changed facts on the ground. We would return to a situation like that in february and march of 2022, when russian forces was steadily advancing through the East And South of ukraine for the first time since the Invasion Russia recently struck an international Cargo Ship loaded with grain in the Black Sea, headed for egypt. If commercial vessels begin to shy away from the Black Sea it would reverse one of ukraines greatest achievements during this war maintaining the ability to ship its grain and other exports at high levels. The economic element of the war does not get enough attention. But ukraine needs whatever cash it can get. Its arms industry, for example, needs more investment so that it can like russia produce weapons on a near continuous basis. The greatest fear in ukraine, however, one that i heard often and for many people, both in government and on the streets, is not about their resolve, but rather the west. And in particular, the united statess one ukrainian who prefer to remain anonymous told me we will never become a russian colony. We will keep fighting but we worry that we will be fighting alone the delay in american aid during the last year caused by infighting amongst stubborn republicans in congress has contributed to the deterioration of the situation on the ground. And many now fear what would happen if Donald Trump wins in November Kristie calculate the former president of estonia told me this war is a struggle of Will Putin is in it to win. And he has transformed his economy into a War Machine Spending something like seven or 8 of gdp on his war of aggression the west is spending roughly 0. 2 of its gdp, helping ukraine defend itself if we could even double that figure, we could bankrupt putin the discussion in the west needs to move from Area Abstractions to urgent Reality Ukraine needs help on all fronts, economic, political, and military, and it needs that help now the biden administration should recognize that there is a chance that the next four months of aid to ukraine will be the last major american help to that country. And act accordingly. Better. The hope for the best and plan for the worst. Go to cnn. Com for link to my Washington Post Column this week. And lets get started the main event, my exclusive interview with Ukraines President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. We met friday in kyiv and i wanted to first understand how he saw the current state of the War Mr. President, pleasure to see you again one more in september in kyiv this one feels like it is happening at a very important moment on the battlefield ukrainian forces went into the Kursk Region in russia. Youve taken large amount of territory there has that worked, there. There are people in ukraine who worry that you took forces away from the donbass and that those lines are now fragile and weak even though you have achieved success in kursk, thanks so much thank you for this possibility to speak and fareed. So first of all, we had very tough situation on the east, especially on the east in kharkiv region, in donbass region, in some of these direction is Wu Lidar is pokrovsk is myrnohrad. Its a lot of different cities people know about only backwards but you are right that the situation was very and they moved very quickly because we didnt have equipment. Again, when we speak about equipment, how to equip brigades, really between us it doesnt matter how many brigades stand on one direction. If half of them not equipped so would you just lose a lot of people . You lose people because theyre not in armored vehicles or in something like this. They dont have artillery, they dont have artillery rounds to compare the Number Russia uses, 12th rounds. We used one 11 to 12th. That was the difference. Of course the idea with the kursk, the Risk Operation is through where understood it but the idea was to move some russian forces there. And i think it was right idea you know, weve talked about munitions often and you talk about it a lot. Help us understand. So the u. S has passed this big aid package. Europe has Pass Aid packages why is that not translating into enough munitions for you . Now is is it is it that there isnt enough supply or is it that you need more aid . Ever seen a lot of different reasons. First, it goes very slowly second, we need 14 brigades to be ready until now we dont. Have from these package on brigades with it in the grip, even for you wanted to 14 brigades and we wanted you have not been able to equip for it too much is too much for him. For thats why we used our Interior Production of draws, not enough, but we did it. It goes as i said to you that that than after eight Months Pause in decision before the positive decision of us congress what we did during these all eight months, everybody has to understand. We used all we could were moved what we have in reserve in resorts and what we have in storages or what resorts brigades who, who we need now, what they had with took all their weapon you have also been trying to persuade the united states and europe to, allow you to use the weaponry to strike into russia explain why this is important. What do you want to hit in russia that you think you should be allowed to hit . Everybody is looking the decision of the united states. Everybody is waiting for such decisions after that they make decisions is true. And so we wanted to or image to use this weapon and just to attack these jets on the military basis, not civilians infrastructure, military. So you just want to be able to attack us the basis that are being used to launch hes weapons, these planes, these missiles, because these jets for these jets, these jets from that, they use not only missiles they use these jets and jets us per month, 4,000 guided aerial bombs on just on the east of our terry 4,000 bombs. And these bombs and missiles are hitting ukrainian civilians, school energies, you universities, all our energy infrastructure, they destroyed 80 by these guided bombs, 80 . Now i said we have some meetings with officials and anna, i said we waited too long now russia began to move that jets from 100, 150 kilometers, 300 to 500 after that, i will tell you that now we need more permissions. Do you have permission now to know till now know next on gps from war to peace, perhaps President Zelenskyy will meet with President Biden later this month. 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I will speak with him how to strengthen ours before Peace Summit to be in a strong position because diplomatic decisions and, or solutions, theyre good when you are strong otherwise, putting will not even i mean, this take place in it and i think otherwise they will be not interested in any kind of circumstances. How they can stop the war. Thats why i have the plan. Yes. Victorious plan because for us its victory to be worried strong, and be ready for the strong diplomacy. And thats why ive prepared some pores four of them, the basic points plus one which we need after the war. So i will share with biden its about security security. Its about geopolitical place for ukraine. Its very strong Military Support and available for us. And that we have to be free how to use one or another item. Its about economic support decisions, but which will be i think, interesting, but i think that its main thing we are ready if our plan President Biden will will value and the Whale Support an if he and his team can add something which will give us more strong, less position will be ready will you present this plan to Donald Trump im ready. Im ready to share it with President Biden then of course, i think it will be it will be honest and right to share with two candidates with Donald Trump, with Kamala Harris and also, i think that a lot of things depends on decision of the Congress Of The United States to share it with congress after the steps, we are ready to share it with people. How did you understand Donald Trump when he said, i can solve this war, i can end this war within a few days. If i get elected even before im precedent, that will be able to solve it i cant understand is how today because i dont know the details of what The Ones who what he means and what, what, what does it mean my position that Election Period and the Election Messages are Election Messages sometimes they are not very real and thats why i think this, these messages can have not very, can make us norris. Hello, are people, of course, of course. But i had i had Phone Call with Donald Trump and he said that hes very supportive and we had good conversation thats why this is recently when was i had only one during this period, yes, it was. I think tomato ago and he said he was very supportive of, you will be aware he supportive and he is he understands how is difficult to survive during the war, and he will do everything to strengthen ukraine i didnt know. I mean, thats great. That it sounds this way and but thats why i wanted to share this plan to hear his reaction. What do you think is going on in Putins Mind because putin has recently said hes willing to have negotiations, but he talks about what, what histones are is essentially total surrender for ukraine i think i think he is he didnt change his main idea and sometimes hes playing just for Summer Leaders who are waiting some emotions from putin to hear something about this sometimes he can give some messages to global house or somewhere and they began to speak. You see, there begins to you see putin is ready for dialogue. What . Hes a player, and he fills this weakness of the west and global house. He is finding where the place where theyre not in unit here, where they have different interests and i think that is a problem that people have to understand that his mission is not to stop the war. He doesnt want to stop anything because he doesnt need. And he afraid very much of successful ukraine. Its not about even victory, but then how will the War End . Because youre not going to get a total victory . Its, it seems to me youre not going to drive him out of all of the donbass and crimea hes not going to be able to occupy kyiv so there will have to be some compromise it its when youre very strong when you very strong. And other side knows that youre worried stroke, and you are as strong as possible to make influence on his society, not to be wearing happy with this its swore because he afraid. Again, i repeated again and again because im sure in it, he afraid on The One thing, no leaders no countries no nothing. He afraid of his suicide. Russian people and if russian people are in danger if they dont have comfortable life if there live without energy, like our people, they will understand the price of the war and they will be not happy with it. And they will begin to infant on him on putin. Thats why i sat make ukraine strong and you will see that he will sit and negotiate next on gps Volodymyr Zelenskyy has been president of ukraine nearly 2000 days now, when we come back i asked him about how his extraordinary time in office might have changed him the polls for Have I Got News For You or pretty yeah what are the kinds we could run on the news before then would never happen if i got news for you, catch the premier again tonight at nine On Cnn i was scared when i was told agerelated Macular Degeneration could jeopardize my vision. He was hard, but taking Presser Vision was easy. Preserve vision as the exact clinically proven a return to formula recommended by the ending im Taking Control like millions of Others Football Season already and not a Satellite Dish in sight. Hardly recognize a ruse. I grow up on in that squawking, right all a wind and what everyone else is watching nonstop football on directv Tell Me whose houses this their house. I think theyre renting. 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You wearing on it, i think these were changed. All of us as through the worse the world was on the, on the east and here in the capital, in other regions, especially on the west and even on the south, which is closer to the iss. But anyway, people didnt feel didnt feel more was in our mind wearing mystique able, that the war is very far. Now, this mistake in some minds and some of our colleagues who are in europe, they think that the war is far from know by the way, 800 from kyiv to the iss, to the point where the war was from 20, 4,800 kilometers. Like the distance between our border and a lot of european countries. So the war is very close, but we dont know about it and dont believe in it until the work came everywhere to ukraine after 2022 came everywhere to all the families. And of course it changed all of us, all ukrainians. And ill all our families divided families to kill lot of lives. A lot of human losses, a lot of destroyed ever seen what we value and brought nothing, nothing good nothing good so its changed all of us. But i think the most important if this war can change europe, can change the world this is very important. They have to understand that the work is close otherwise, if it will not change, europe and the world otherwise, if the world will not understand it, we have to live in unity otherwise, putin or some similar guys, you know, that can divide the world and can eat this business like a pie thats why we need this unity then i hall that these were changed minds of people and change minds of leaders of global countries. We count on it mr. President. Thank you for being with us. Thanks so much. Thank you for everything. Coming up next on gps, ill introduce you to an extraordinary 15yearold girl. 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Millions of kids, more than half of the Countrys Child ill population were forced to flee their Homes Family members head to the Front Lines down on their cities and their schools, and less than a year, more than 2,600 the schools were damaged or destroyed most schools in the country closed for a period of time that year we made a trip to kyiv where i wanted to understand how the war was affecting ukraines young people who were returning to school for the first time in months we gathered a group of students who were all impressive but a girl named mahsa stood out, especially with a message to vladimir putin i urge you to wizz it. All of this places that were destroyed by your soldiers. But your Decision And Talk to all of the people whose lives were destroyed by you the war had practically come to marsha as backyard. When russia invaded but what can we spoke to her the second time in September 2023 . It had actually hit home with her father on the Front Line and do you get reports back from him . I do, but its not very often and it has been five days since he was on his phone. So i dont know but it was like the Starlink Wasnt working very well. So i think everythings okay. I hope so thats a must extraordinary feeling where like you, if youve been hearing from him every couple of days and then you dont hear you you wonder why you didnt hear yeah. Right. And its adjusted the internet is down or is it something and the hardest thing because you dont know and you dont know what the time when youre going to get a message from him and you dont know if youre going to get the message from king yeah. Thats the hardest part sat down with marsha this week to hear her story. I remember when i asked you about your father you said that you didnt know where he was . Yeah. And you will word that there may be some trouble with the internet that hadnt been able to be in touch with them . Yeah. Because they said that there was just like something wrong with sterling so were just saw that its ok. Like hes all right. He can text me and thats the only problem. But unfortunately, that wasnt the problem. So few days after we talked, it turned out he had been killed how it was a bomb or killed him and the other guys with him it wasnt a third of september. And the next day he was planning to go to bakhmut to take some weapons and things and the night before he was killed by russia when did you find out that he was dead . It wasnt a mother for told me that i remember it was after school she was waiting for me nodding her car is usual because usually she waits for me in her car and im just sitting were going home. What i remember that i saw her just like in front of her car and i was like, why she sent him there and then there was the phrase that your father is dead how did you react i was stunned. I just i remember the I Couldnt really believe that. Of course when their father is on the war, there isa, some possibility she can be killed. But i just my father was so optimistic about things and he has he had a lot of plans about his life. And i was just very painful. And i believe some hateland i believed in his life and then theres like his dad it just the moment when you realized It Everything can happen in this life and it just can turn to the other side told me about what, what, What Kind Of Man was he hes definitely is bravest person that i have ever known. As i said, he was always very optimistic about things and i just i think thats what to me what he and i have in common because were just really good to opsin this if you have a message for him, if you could say one thing to him that you wish you had said, is that something that you that you didnt say . To be his daughter talked last year, i also asked you, what would you tell putin . And youd said, you wished he could come and see the Death And Destruction that his policies are producing today. If if you had a message for putin, what would it be . I have no words left to him. Our harris just hate father died because of him and there is no dialog with such people or you want to do is just q him did you in the days after did you have a sense of bitterness . Why did this happen . He shouldnt have volunteered its only human that i remember thinking like why my father I Couldnt really think other things just like why is he why is putin just sitting there alive and to making all of this terrible decisions . And my father is the person but i had, this huge bond in my life and one of the closest people in my life and hes gotten out and i can see his smile just in the photos on my phone. Are his grief. I just i was heartbroken, obviously masha. Thank you for sharing this with us. I know its hard thank you so much. News for you . 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The fight there is the current main thrust of moscows unrelenting attacks on Eastern Ukraine ukrainian forces are resolutely finding to maintain a whole day. But it makes one wonder as the war continues to take a toll on ukrainian forces, how long can they resist russias relentless aggression . I spoke to Yegor Fifths tough, achieved sergeant in the army he oversees more than a dozen soldiers in a drone Attack Unit you just back from the front Frontlines Station between pokrovsk and toretsk, both tactically vital cities in the east that are under consistent barrage of attacks from russian forces igor pleasure to have you on. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for your support Tell Me were all trying to understand what is it like to be on the Front Lines where exactly are you . There is like hard situation, difficult situation first of all, i should say, is it like on The One hand russians . The have like suffer heavy losses we destroyed a lot of objects of russians like tanks . But on another hand we have a serious problem with our infinitely i mean, our soldiers are tired, tiredness is one of the reason our crisis, because theyve been out on the front, lines now for almost three years . Yeah, very little occasionally absolutely. Ego. Let me ask you, are you are you nervous during this interview no. Because my nervous left in tranches a lot of time. I am not nervous i have after having been in battle to view for cnn is not yeah, absolutely. Now i am like i have relaxed here yes, i have several days for for xetra relax. And after days, i will back and frontlines zone. And from pokrovsk. And unfortunately, i dont know pokrovsk city or not . Our several days. You think its that close . Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So people can understand how much the situation has changed my understanding is pokrovsk months ago was lucky. I have solidly absolutely. You cafes, people, 100 i said that point everywhere that life of pokrovsk if we compare with scif, is the same life was before even several months ago and unfortunately, i should say, is that pokrovsk is becoming like of Defka And Bakhmut so the city has been destroyed. Theres a bombardment. Yeah, absolutely. Without people every day. And most of the people fled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is like city of 100,000 or at times, majority of people left. Of course you are worried that pokrovsk will fall . Yes now, you just had a change in your family yes. One week ago, i became father. Yes. Now, i have a Daughter Elizabeth and a big motivation for me and it big reason to continue our fight maybe she is dislike changing my life. My thoughts and this big either know i can explain to change how the chain, whats it making you think you want to mourn the more were like currents, possibility. Yeah. More. Its understanding why why should we fight . 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