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Platforms im Christiane Amanpour in london. Thank you for watching and ill see you again next week thank you so much for joining me this saturday at a Greek A Whitfield with just over 50 days until the election, the race for the White House is entering a critical phase today, former President Trump and his running mate, senator j. D vance are campaigning in key Battleground States in the last 24 hours, trump has spent his time lashing out at the nasdaq, promoting another baseless claim that harris had an earpiece in at their Debate Trump continues to blame with zero evidence that haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio are eating peoples pets. And he said migrants are taking over the country from within im angry about venezuelan gangs taking over Aurora Colorado and im angry about illegal haitian migrants taking over springfield, ohio. You see that Mess Stone . The venezuelans have Big Ak 47 Supremes is supreme. What a hell did he get these guns are Soldiers Cant get these guns they take it over our country from within none of it substantiated or proven meantime, Kamala Harris just wrapped up two campaign stops in battleground, pennsylvania, and before she left, she sat down for an interview with a Philadelphia Television Station to blast trumps a divisive rhetoric in my heart. I know in my soul, i know that the vast majority of us as americans have so much more in common than what separates us. Most americans want a leader who brings us together as americans and not someone who professes to be a leader who is trying to have us point our fingers at each other i think people are exhausted with that approach. Weve got a team of correspondents covering the Campaigns Alayna Treene is with the Trump Team in nevada. Lets bring in Kevin Liptak at the White House with more on the perspective from there, kevin what can you tell us about the Vice President harriss a strategy to hold events in rural areas that tend to vote republican. And her campaigns new effort to mobilize latino No Voters as well. Yeah. Last point there, this is the largest investment that the campaign has made so far, trying to convince latiNo Voters to vote for Kamala Harris. Theyre invested deng 3 Million in Spanish Radio alone, sending surrogates to events including tonights super middleweight fight in Las Vegas. So you can see them really trying to look for votes. Everywhere. They possibly can in this final stretch towards election day. And what that looks looked like yesterday in pennsylvania was traveling to two counties in the conservative interior of the state places that Donald Trump won back in 2020. Kamala harris, very much looking to shave off some percentage points to cut into Donald Trumps margins. Among rural voters, Blue Collar workers rural voters, of course, really trying to look for these votes anywhere she possibly can yesterday, she was in a johnstown which is in the western part of the state. She was joined by the democratic senator john fetterman. He is someone who has tried to convince democrats. First, Joe Biden and now Kamala Harris that they need to campaign and in these parts of the state if they are to win, the critical 19 electoral votes that pennsylvania holds. And so Kamala Harris certainly trying to do that yesterday and you heard in her speeches, she talked about some of these issues that would be very much central to these communities. Talking about how she would try as president to reduce the number of jobs that would require a College Degree she also talked about some of the republicans who have actually endorsed her as president of course, pennsylvania is central to any electoral Battleground Strategy you just have to look at her own calendar to get that viewpoint of the last eight days or so, xi has spent all or part of seven of them in pennsylvania. She will were turned to pennsylvania next week. Shes also visiting michigan and wisconsin, focusing very much on that socalled Blue Wall as she heads towards november all right. Kevin liptak at the White House. Thanks so much. Lets go now to Alayna Treene in Las Vegas with the trump campaign. Alayna, good to see you. What can you tell us about trumps strategy out west and how he is answering questions now about a controversial supporter fred, for his strategy outlast luck ai, he has had a couple of rallies. He was its in tucson, arizona on thursday, Las Vegas, yesterday and today, but a lot of this is because he had fundraisers out here. He had two fundraisers in los angeles. Hell have another this weekend on the west coast. So Thats Part of this, but luck. Yesterday at his rally here in Las Vegas, it was billed by his campaign that speech as an economic speech. Instead, though, Donald Trump veered off script repeatedly, he spent a lot of time rehashing Tuesday Nights Debate And Part of that, as part of that he went on this whole discussion about whether or not Kamala Harris was wearing an earpiece. Now this is a baseless claim that has been kind of percolating on the phone alright corners of the Internet And Something that Donald Trump had been promoting. And we heard him say it publicly on stage last night. He also claimed without evidence that perhaps she had received steve some of the questions in advance. I want you to take a listen said she can talk without maybe getting the answers. Whats the story with . Did she get the questions here she got the questions that i also heard she had something in the year little something in the air know, kamala do this say at this so a kabbalah, okay. Be quiet to believe people watch he was mocking the Vice President there, but i do want to be very clear. There is no evidence that any of what he just said was true. But the reason that this is so notable is because this is the latest in a string of Conspiracy Theories that Donald Trump has been promoting, really ever since harris replaced Joe Biden and at the top of the democratic ticket, it also comes as many republicans and people close to Donald Trump are telling me that they are concerned about his relationship with the far right conspiracy perez, Laura Loomer, Shes Someone who has promoted conspiracy is about 9 11. She wants called it an Inside Job and she traveled with Donald Trump this week from florida to Film Philadelphia for the debate. She also went with him to New York and the reason im bringing this up is because when i talk to people close to trump has allies, people even within his campaign, they argue that she is behind some of these Conspiracy Theories. Now we actually did hear Donald Trump address some of this yesterday in a social well media post. He tried to distance himself a bit from loomers positions. Im going to read for you just very quickly. Some of what he wrote, he said, quote, Laura Loomer doesnt work for the campaign hes a private citizen and longtime supporter. I disagree with this statements she made, but like many millions of people who support me, she is tired of watching the radical left marxists and fascists violently Attack And Smear me. So there you see, its unclear which statements he was saying he disagrees with, but trying to distance himself a bit from Laura Loomer, although of course he continues to say that shes a strong supporter and that he likes her. Fred. All right. Alayna treene, well leave it there for now. Thank you so much. And kevin liptack, as well, coming into us from washington. All right. Lets talk more about the race for the White House with lynn sweet. She is the Washington Bureau Chief for the chicago suntimes. Lynn, im just learning today youre also the host of athens the table with lynn sweet, so congrats on that as well. Im going to tune into that soon alright, so lets talk about the Harris Campaign right now. Im going to be planning more stops in red and rural counties to attract Swing Voters of what do you make of that strategy . Well, i make of the strategy, is that the Harris Campaign as resources, both cash and volunteers to go everywhere. Were still some 50 days left to the campaign. They dont have to make a lot of super hard choices and dealing with the Battleground State and the voters segments are reaching out to, because at this point, they could do everything on their checklist, reach out to latinos, do more reaching out to black voters, do more with women, do more with students. They have this strategic advantage, right now. And as we could see there using it a long stretch in pennsylvania, her running mate, tim walzs on the Campaign Trail in his Home State of minnesota. And battleground wisconsin. So right now, there is a big focus on the Blue Wall states at the same time, does the Harriswalz Campaign Risk not ccording some some of the other Battleground States what actually was just going to be in georgia and North Carolina on tuesday. So they its not for them and this is very interesting thing to analyze strategically. Its not either or its all they do not have to make these trials whilst as a strong surrogate for harris and has his own schedule. Plus they have all these other related events and surrogates going out and and trump has this but not to the same degree. And if you look at the firehose of cash coming into the campaign, all this Ground Work can be supplemented by paid advertising. And were seeing that happening so that is a very interesting development, are in right now is that they dont have to make a hard choice between doing it, appeal to this segment or that because they could do every segment that thats important in a race that could be this close any sliver of any Base Group is important to turn out. And as your previous before, theres said, you also have to do the work of trying to tamp down the Trump Turnout in his places to all make it work into getting these Battleground State wins and flipside to that. Republican Vice President ial nominee j. D vance. He is doing interviews on behalf of their ticket on all the main networks. What do you make of the strategy of keeping vance in Battleground States, having him do interviews while trump focuses primarily on rallies well, during the small Group Interview is not really the Trump Thing and it might be riskier at this point since its an, its so important to underscore trump is making speeches that are endless series of lies and misstatements. This is not to be normalized in any way and if he does these interviews with reporters who are in these swing states, he might have a rougher interview. Jd vances doing this as part of his portfolio so more reaching out to reporters. And again, this is part of the attack on Kamala Harris by Donald Trump, is that she doesnt do enough interviews and her campaign has said that theyre doing more so far is youve just been reporting theres one and well see about that. But the more entities candidates get out in the Battleground States, yes, theres some risk that they can make a mistake, but also theres reward. All right, well leave it there for now, lynn. Sweet. Thank you so much. Great to see you. Thank you alright. Today, The Winder, Georgia Community will gather to remember 14yearold Student Mason Schermerhorn And Teacher Cristina Error may in separate funeral services, they were among the four people killed in a shooting at apalachee High School just ten days ago. And now were getting a clearer picture of the Police Response in the moments after the shooting yesterday, Barrow County officials released the Police 911 calls and more than 500 Radio Messages between emergency personnel shooter, an active shooter at apalachee High School. One suspect in custody wants this as year in custody on injured Cnns Rafael Romo is joining me right now. Rafael, good to see you. I mean, these are still very tender, tough moments and, you know, in the trove of recordings, there was a tearful call from the Suspects Aunt who said she was worried that it was her nephew. Thats tried then its let me just say for not only that, but its a very difficult day. Theyre having been there in the community. This is very difficult. What the ante saying and also what we have learned from other Family Members and these newly obtained Emergency Recordings and dispatch records from the Barrow County Sheriffs Office captured the Chaos And Panic that unfolded both inside and outside the apalachee High School in winder, georgia. We now know the first goal for the shooting came in at 10 22 a. M. Eastern time. According to dispatch reports obtained from the Barrow County Sheriffs Office through a freedom of Information Request made by cnn two minutes later. A 20 4 00 a. M. Authorities had the Suspects Name as colt and one student was dead, according to the reports at 10 30 a. M. The suspect was in custody, not injured. And then at 11 45 a. M. A woman who identified herself as colts and made a tearful 911 call saying she was afraid her nephew was involved in the shooting. This is part of what she told a dispatcher. Lets take a listen my mom said that my nephew this Morning Apalachee okay. As we previously reported, Colt Gray sent his mother an alarming cryptic Text Message before the shooting that only said, im sorry, mom that Text Message prompted Marcee Gray to call the school, asking administrators to check on her son. The ant also shared that information with a dispatcher as we will hear next. Okay. And you said that youve got a message from your nephew my mom just called me mom, my and his dad have you been sorry steady called the school and for the california, she does get in hard to hear that the Barrow County sheriff said that after marcee Grays Wain C authorities were actively looking for Colt Gray, but there was a mixup and they werent able to get to him fast enough. Colt gray, who Authorities Say . Confessed to The Winder High School attack, is charged with four counts of felony, murder and will be tried to send a load adult. His attorney, alfonso kraft junior, declined to comment and say when reached by phone, but piece by piece, the story is surfacing is very disturbing in beeri, there was a families seem to know, but you know, i think is still curious. I mean, we know weve heard from the mom about the text. Im sorry, mom, do we know whether there was anything more proceeding that for them to know for the mom to know for this arent to know that that meant these measures were taken by this young man. I feel like there must be Something Else preceding the im sorry, mom. Yes. Yes. Their a span of 30 minutes before the shooting actually happened, where officials say the mother placed the call to the school asking administrators, spokesman specifically, with a counselor saying, hey, theres something terribly wrong. I need you to find my son make sure that hes doing okay. And thats where the mixup happened. And they were unable to reach the student than time. By then he was already in the restroom allegedly putting together the gun that he had carried in his backpack and then we know the rest of the story and how tragically it ended. And we had heard from a classmate who said that a young man whose name is very similar, but the first name was colton . Yes. That apparently it was colton who was called. They asked and turns out that was the wrong kid, but simultaneously as you just mentioned colt was in the bathroom or preparing for this horrible situation. All right. Thank you so much. Rafael romo, bring us more as you get it. Of course all right. A pressing question now, facing the u. S. Should ukraine be allowed to use western missiles to strike targets deep inside russia will tell you what the us and its allies are saying about that. And the potential impact of the decision on the battlefield Have I Got News For You . 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And this follows a critical meeting between President Biden and you okay, prime Minister Keir Starmer at the White House friday, where ukraine was high on the agenda, ukraine is stepping up the pressure to be alweto use those missiles deep inside russia in an exclusive interview with cnns Fareed Zakaria ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy said, he needs more flexibility in using because Weapons Everybody is looking the decision of the united states. Everybody is reading precise decisions after that, they make decision its true. And so we wanted to earn much to use this weapon and just to attack these jets on the military basis not civilians, infrastructure military base. So you just want to be able to attack us basis that are being used to launch these weapons, these planes, these mixed because his Jazz Hurry at these jets these jets from there, they use not only missiles they use these jets and jets us per month for thousand guided aerial bombs on just on the east of our 4,000 bombs all right. With me now is cnn Military Analyst and retired Air Force Colonel cedric leighton. Great to see you, colonel. So if ukraine is allowed to use the missiles, the ways zelenskyy, ones will it actually move the needle in this war . Well that. Depends for rico according to a lot of reports, the russians have moved a lot of their aircraft away from the range of the missiles that were talking about. And that range is basically about 200 miles from launch so that would mean that any any area that the ukrainians would be able to cover for with this may or may not have the aircraft that President Zelenskyy was talking about. But its certainly as the airfields that he wants to in Essence Attack that would be one area that it would be positive to go after this. Use these missiles and to have that right . Range of attack capability. And if he has that, it could have a bit of a difference in the war. But of this one capability will not be enough fredricka to make a complete difference. So again zelenskyy eat or tried to make it clear that the objective would be to target these russian bases what did seem under those parameters . Its fair game oh, its absolutely Laws Of War these bases should be allowed to be targets under the rules of warfare on international law. There was no problem with the ukrainians going after them. What the problem is in terms of escalation she is that the russians are basically saying that if these bases or attacked with western weapons, then it would be a potential for escalation in this war that could potentially involve nuclear weapons. And thats the kind of thing that of course the west wants to avoid. And then some are suggesting that strategically the longer range missiles could be used more effectively inside, inside ukraine, or perhaps in crimea is that how you see it well those missiles have actually already been used, at least several of them have been used in crimea against targets, russian targets in crimea, the ukrainians have attacked the black Sea Fleet Headquarters there, for example, they act Air Defense I installations. They are like yes, 400 Radar And Missile installations. So that becomes something that the ukrainians have already done. They need more of these missiles to continue to prosecute targets in crimea, but they also need these missiles to target areas in russia that are serving as basically launchpads for russian attacks against crimea against ukraine. I say, okay, and russias Vladimir Putin is saying, of course doing so would simply, you know, provoke a bigger war. Does he really need any further incentive in which to follow up on that . Would this be the thing that would provoke him to move further is possible that it wouldnt certainly he us intelligence assessments indicate that putin has his kind of making a decision in that vein that the russians could potentially use this as an excuse to widen the conflict or make it a much more severe youre conflict, but we have to keep in mind as far as the russians are concerned, whether you listen to putin or to Foreign Minister lavrov, or several other russian officials, they really feel like they were already at war with the west with the question of escalation is perhaps a not necessarily a mood one, but its definitely not as dramatic as what the russian we have, us believe at this Point Ukraine had implied that kurt that Kursk Offensive inside russia was 200 Leverage Ukraine in any type of Peace Negotiations was the Kursk Offensive worth it from that perspective . Well, it remains to be seen fredricka, i think that the Kursk Offensive we surprise the russians and its very, its very clear that the ukrainians were not only able to capture some russian territory, but the the, force the russians to really reposition some of their troops. Now, the main ukrainian goal in terms of tactical military issues of forcing russian soldiers from the Eastern Front to the Kursk Region to defend that area. That has not been achieved at this particular point but there are other things that the ukrainians did achieve. The fact that they were able to come in. Theyve set up what amounts to a civil Military Government in these areas . All of that is very positive for ukraine and that can certainly show that the ukrainians have the capability to do some incursions like this and potentially leverage these games when it comes to future Peace Or Ceasefire negotiations. And colonel, i dont know if you saw any Christiane Amanpour interviews with some of the ukrainian soldiers who were being treated in the medic on the train and many of them were saying they dont have enough arsenal is it, your concern that more arsenal, whether it be from the u. S or the uk, can get there soon enough well, i think that is a major concern in the ukrainian soldiers and Christianes Piece really voicing a concern that ive had ever since the the beginning of this phase of the conflict and that is that when you look at the resources compare them between ukraine and russia, its very clear that the russians have far more resources in terms of troops, in terms of munitions. And that is what ukraine is fighting against. So the us and its nato allies have to really ramp up the logistical support and make sure that every single thing that theyve promised ukraine gets to ukraine so that it can be used very quickly. That also not only includes the munitions, aid includes the training to use those munitions because one thing that the ukrainians have to do is save their manpower is essential that they saved their manpower in order to survive as a country all right. Colonel cedric leighton, always great to talk to you. Thank you so much you bet fredricka and you can see the full of a lot of Mirror Zelenskyy Interview Tomorrow Morning on Fareed Zakaria, gps at 10 00 a. M. Eastern and pacific only On Cnn alright. 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Has exclusive reporting on New Hampshire National Guard and how it became a hotbed for sexual Harassment And Assault according to interviews with current and former members of the guard, they describe a culture of retaliation against whistleblowers and neglect for victims of Sexual Assault and in one instance, a Lieutenant Colonel deployed to the southern border, border rather, in october of 2022, since sexually suggestive messages to women took photos of women without their knowledge and shared them. He even ordered women to come to his Hotel Room and threatened to make their deployments miserable if they complained cnns pentagon Producer Haley Britzky is joining us now with more on this. Haley, just how rampant was this kind of behavior in the new Hampshire Guard yeah. Fredricka. So the current and former members that i spoke with said this was incredibly normal, that this had been going on for years with leadership often sweeping these issues under the rug, and i think a good illustration of that is this investigation that you mentioned of the Lieutenant Colonel down at the border, that investigators spoke to over 50 soldiers during this investigation, many of them saying that Kernel Paterson bragged about beating past investigations that hed been investigated as many as six or seven times and had beaten every single one. So it really impacted the trust they had in leadership and taking this seriously. And of course, we should mention that his lawyer, when asked about this behavior, said that Kernel Patterson felt the women under his command were being friendly, but then he aired and letting that familiarity go too far. And hailey, your investigation is shown systemic issues in the national guard that could enable this kind of misano missing its conduct. What have your sources been telling you about that yeah. So the national guard is a bit of a complex piece of the military, given that its made up primarily of these parttime service members. So this is not their fulltime job, which can sort of impact some of the culture in some changes sinking down into these units. But also sources pointed to the fact theres not a very effective investigating agency within the national guard specifically as well as this sort of gray area of who really oversees these units. The units report to their states governor, but they also report to the national Guard Bureau and the pentagon back in dc and so there seems to be some lack of clarity over who really is responsible for overseeing these and enforcing accountability lydia, in these organizations so what are other guardsmen and women saying about this kind of toxicity . Thats being allowed to go on yeah. So multiple people saying pointing out that this is not just New Hampshire, they they this is happening with within other State Units because of this kind of systemic issue. But the people in new We Hampshire saying that they really dont have a lot of confidence that this is going to be handled appropriately. We see your legislation being proposed in the senate by New Hampshire senator shaheen. But theres still doubt that even that would bring effective change as one source told me, no, its not that theres not regulations or rules on the book for these units is that they simply arent following them all right. Haley britzky. Great reporting. Thank you so much remnants of what was Hurricane Francine are drenching the southeast millions are under Flood Alerts. A look at the latest forecast next tapper we weekdays it for On Cnn you know whats crazy. This is better than cooking at home then groceries, of course groceries are expensive. 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So how long is this rain going to go on really through today starts to try to wrap up going into tomorrow, but a lot of these areas are saturated from rain that theyve gotten in the last couple of days from francine, you can see that firehose of moisture with some of that rain coming through birmingham, even making it as far north as nashville coming at some gusty winds as well. Well get the footprint of rain from francine. I mean, some pretty hefty totals over six inches around the New Orleans area. Another little area along the Florida Panhandle with some pretty high totals over six inches and its just huge swaths of some four to six inch totals from some of that Heavy Rain. This is whats left of the Flood Watch as stretches from Southern Tennessee down through alabama. And then into parts of georgia as well. Now, lot of this area does have some drought conditions, so we could use some of this rain again, just getting a lot of it all about once you can see some of the additional totals that could still come. So still a growing concern for some Flash Flooding possible across the south southeast through Today And Tomorrow from what is left of francine, read. Alright. And then theres a new threat. Yes. Tropics have woken up and are still in the season . Yes. Theyve been pretty busy. We have this oral storm, this area of low pressure off the coast of the carolinas that could get a name to Something Else. But even if it doesnt, it could still bring some Heavy Rain. Youd see as we go into monday, well have some of that Heavy Rain along the carolinas and then it works its way up the East Coast as we go into the Work Week there. So heres that Flood Risk for the carolinas on monday, that slight Risk Level two out of four from greenville down towards wilmington. Again, this has some tropical nature to it. It could have a skeleton that could get it a name to something. But even if it doesnt, you still have the Heavy Rain threat. We also have gordon back there. Thats a tropical storm in the atlantic right now. Its got winds of 45 miles per hour for now, that track doesnt take it to any land in the next seven days. Alright, very good. Thank you for watching it. Let us know the Elisa Rafah. Thank you. All right. New today, were alerted the officer at the center of the controversial Traffic Stop involving Miami Dolphins Player Tyreek Hill has a troubled past with the police force. A report on Daniel Torres is Work File shows throughout his 27 year career, he had a history of suspensions, reprimands, and complaints. These complaints include allegations that he used various Force Tactics resulting in injuries such as cuts and bruises, other complaints involved allegations of improper procedure and improper use of a body camera. 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What surprised you . Hey fred, yet who you heard from there, Hes Name is hassan piker. He is on twitch which is a Video Game Streaming platform. Hes got about 3 Million followers. Oops, im sorry. Thats my twitch going off right there hes got about 3 Million followers there. And look, this is a whole new world where young people and really people have all ages are getting their information and misinformation. So on Video Game platforms like twitch, people are also discussing politics. They talk about politics all day, day, discuss politics some of the men we met on this Journey For Misinfonation for the whole story some cooper, were guys who spent most of their time online. Many hours a day. They feel disillusioned, they feel left behind by politics. They were formally Bernie Bros just up until even as recently as four years ago, they see not they dont see a Material Change in their life. They are getting more are frustrated as they stay online and they have moved all the way to the maga, but even beyond that to the very, very, very far right. And into really hateful and extreme spaces online i met two of them. Take a look at this but the men that we measure werent always this way. My name is jackson henkels a few years ago. Jackson was campaigning for progressive the causes i was blm originally blm has been coopted by nato, by the government. Adam aka Charm Hold had changed finished as well. So you money if you use a big Liberal Democrat you are a Bernie Bro Burned Go through and through. I wanted to find out change. Why do you think the russians like i speak truth to see you that American Politics is schizophrenic you got one side saying ukraine because he got the outside same crazy yeah. One of the guys you saw there, jackson henkel, who i asked, why did the russians like you so much . Hes a 24yearold from california, from San Clemente eight years ago. He was a bernie kids basically, he was picking up trash on his beach in california, was working on progressive causes and now has made this just over the space of a few years. Its very hard turn rice. Wow, i mean, real hard turn. So what are their views on . Kamala harris theyre not big fans. And look, i mean, they are these guys are steeped now in the world of maga. But i think it goes far beyond that and its something that we are seeing in the u. S. But also All Around The World as this kind of radicalization of Men People who are men are feeling disillusioned, who feel like theyve been left behind in some ways. There are people online, influencers are online. Theres a whole nanosphere. Its called on the internet of playing into these guys and such curious, curiosities. Their grievances and 3d radicalizing them fascinating. All right, well be watching for more. Donie osullivan. Thank you so much. Dont miss the whole story misinformation, The Loft Left Tomorrow Night at 8 00 p. M. 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