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Other Day Or X or whatever were calling calling it but he said mckinsey phi, the strategy of iran and russia, they have entire strategies with workstreams. And this was one workstream amongst multiple. Now, whether those are successful or they land remains to be seen, but we should absolutely expect multiple other activities, both out of iran, russia, and even in china and beyond. Yeah, i mean, we saw part of this was we reported that they targeted one of trumps attorneys. Yes. It doesnt appear it was successful, but theyre targeting key people. Yeah, look, theyre going to go at those that erie, theyre either in the immediate orbit of the former president yeah, or those that are right outside of it that had the Access And Ability to reach in. And again, we should expect more of this, not just up to the election, but after it, chris krebs, thank you for that. A quick Programming Note here before we go, comedians, Roy Wood Junior and others are going to be on cnn saturday night, a new special. You are going to have to tune in to watch that. Thank you so much for joining us. The news continues right here on cnn news, trump says no more debates with harris as a new poll shows the majority of voters think harris won the Debate Or Campaign revealing for the first time the money what that meant for how much money she raised in the hours after that faceoff with Trump And Maga Mayhem Republic bookings on the attack, slamming a controversial far right activists who has attached herself to Trump Or Elle reeve. Know Laura Loomer knows, or she spoke to from today . Shes outfront and an outfront Special Report tonight, cnn with rare access to a prison full of Gang Members and El Salvador crackdown coming amid fewer illegal crossings at the Southern Border. Lets go outfront evening. Im erin burnett, outfront tonight. The Breaking News no more debates. Trump making it clear moments ago that he will not Face Off against Kamala Harris again, heres what he said just moments ago at a rally in arizona so because weve done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate yet moments after the debate ended was a totally different story. Trump was open to another debate would you be inclined to say yes. It was a fair network . But now its a hard no out in the Rally Stage saying no trump is obsessed about that debate with harris tonight. At that rally in tucson and arizona, he spent 20 minutes actually a little bit more than 20 minutes going over every questionanswer from the debate, we litigating it and theres a reason for this obsession. The first Debate Poll is out, No Doubt hes seen it it finds 53 of voters, Say Harris came out on top. That 53 is notable in us politics. But what stands out the most is the 24 , only 24 say trump won. And when asked, who stumbled or didnt appear sharp, more than half, 52 said trump which may be because of remarks like this in springfield. Theyre eating the dogs, the people that came in, theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating theyre eating the pets of the people that live there and it is, at the debate numbers. Heres the reality. This appears to be more than just the debate, because now when you look among registered voters and the actual support who theyre Gonna Vote for an election day, 47 Support Harris to 42 for trump. That is a five point advantage. Yes, its tight. It comes down down to the Swing States, but Five Points in American Politics is a chasm and as for harris, she is doubling down on surprisingly on whether she wants to have another debate do nights ago, Donald Trump and i had our first debate it to the voters to have another Debate Election and what is at stake could not be more important well when it comes to what matters the most in politics being money, that was a big moneymaker for harris. Her campaign told Cnn Tonight that she raised 47 Million in the 24 hours following the debate, 47 Million in 24 hours. They say that includes donations from 600,000 individuals. Just to be clear, this is the second biggest one Day Haul for harrison. She actually entered the race in july. And now she wants to build on that momentum. She just held another rally in North Carolina. You see her there, even mckend is outfront at the Harris Rally in greensboro. And eva, youre learning more about Harris Strategy now when were starting to see how voters saw that poll starting to see how it facts in this moment in time, the national likely vote. What are you learning democrats believe that North Carolina is really conflate this cycle for a number of reasons. And that is why you see her here doing to rallies and investing here. They are encouraged by the momentum around early voting. We heard the Vice President addressed early voting tonight, 160,000 people in this state requesting early ballots. They believed that the republican candidate for governor there is especially week. And they think that he will drag down the entire ticket they also see more than a dozen or around a dozen rather history roughly black colleges and universities in this state. I was speaking to some young women from Bennett College here in greensboro. And there is a lot of Organizing Support in those spaces. And then of course, the issue of reproductive Rights Erin the Vice President , mentioned Healthcare Tonight up on that stage. They believed that issue is particularly resonant in and they can appeal to those undecided voters. Voters who maybe traditionally dont vote for democrats in this southern state, based on the strength of that particular were and so keep the strategy is competing here. Say if they dont win in pennsylvania, for instance, they can still capture North Carolina and other states and still get to that critical to 70 area. Alright, eva, thank you very much. At that Rally Site in North Carolina. Alright. Everyones with me here. David axelrod, trump now saying on the Rally Stage, there wont be another debate, okay, so and harris obviously wants there to be well, we understand where he clearly what people think. People think she won and he did not win. But who is hurt more between the two of them . If there is not another debate will obviously trump has decided that he would be hurt more if there was another debate and she has decided that she could advantage yourself. I think that was such a decisive outcome in that debate. And if i were in trumps team, i think im not sure i want to put them on that stage. Again, if youre harris his team, youre saying another event like that could be a real boost because were still a distance from the campaign. And another debate closer the campaign could be very advantageous right . Although sometimes its nice to just, you got to win chips. Yeah. But you know what . I dont really buy these polls. I mean, i think that this is a very close race. If you look at polling averages, shes probably got a point and a half maybe a two Point Lead nationally. But in these Battleground States, they are as tight as a tick and i just think that this thing ive gotten chastise before for saying this, theres no room for Irrational Exuberance here. People should be really pleased with that debate was a big step forward. But this is going to be a close race from start to finish so erin, let me ask you you know, you heard but Harris Today again calling trump to agree to another debate that he owes it to voters is what shes saying. David plouffe, a senior Campaign Adviser now for harris, called Trump Chicken Man today, right there trying to bait him into doing it. Do you think aaron, that this is a hard and fast know at this point or could he suddenly change his mind . The likelihood he changes his mind a few more times is pretty high, knowing Donald Trump and his history, if polls start to move and there seems to be an opportunity, if if they continue to goad him, his response very likely could change to yes, i want to have the debate and then go back to know when negotiations move or whatever for happen. But however, that shakes out the debate regardless of if Donald Trump does that or not, were in the homestretch now and as their criss crossing into all these Battleground States, what we saw come out of that debate right now, were seeing maybe marginal movement, but youve got to get into these Battleground States now and have these conversations with voters not only at rallies and at debates and on those big tv moment, but at the doors via Text Message on their emails because now is turnout time and they cant be wasting it arguing over debates. Its so lulu, let me ask you, you know, obviously theres this issue of how close this race is and its close, its also inherited its interest to say that its close. She needs to turn out right. And she needs to win by a real margin nationally in order to make sure she gets there into to 70 on the electoral college. Today. She said that shes the underdog when we play it sorry. We dont have it. What you said is okay. Alright. Well play it. Here we go. Ours. Will. Be a very tight race until The End. Okay. Its going to be a tight race until The End and we are the underdogs. Understand that we are the underdog and obviously lulu, anybody understands why shes saying that you dont want to say all we got this, right. But shes saying and emphasizing and emphasizing it, it would seem because when you do get and i hear what david just said, looking at the national average, right . But youve got a poll out today with a fivePoint Lead that doesnt look like an underdog it doesnt look like an underdog. And i think the reason shes doing it is because democrats have ptsd from 2016 when Hillary Clinton thought she had it in the bag when she didnt visit key Swing States when they werent really doing retail politics and the way that theyre trying to do right now. And they dont want to make that same mistake again, they dont want to underestimate made the opposition and the headwinds on the economy and other issues. And so they really are trying to push, push this message that every Vote Counts and theyre trying to gin up that enthusiasm and thats why youre seeing them going to these Swing States, but not just going to the areas that they classically go to, but going to rural areas, going to areas where theyre just trying to push up the margins because it is indeed bernarda election. So david, let me ask you about the money and i said, you know, Money Matters and it does. Right. But can you just having been in the center of this, put some meat on the bone, 47 Million 24 hours. Thats the second best haul for her these are incredible numbers. They add up to incredible numbers that adds up to a more than two times greater amount of money to spend than trump has. So what does that actually mean . Running a campaign right now . What does that mean when you can throw money around like that . Well, obviously you know the one people think of immediately is Television Advertising and thats going to matter, but it also helps Fuel Organization and the kind of i get out, the vote activities that are going to make the difference in this race. I think this is going to be half a 0. 1 way or another in the these key states, shes North Carolina today. My sense is pennsylvania is still a state. She has to win, but if she doesnt, she need its the makeup for it somewhere. And it is going to take a lot of resources, both in terms of media, but especially in terms of getting out the vote paying for the organizational activities you need to make. To make this come home i think that this is an advantage for her, but trump was outspent last time and he closed fast. And thats what they have to worry about. They have to worry about what happened in the last two elections where he closed fast. Erin, one thing that the democrats are doing is making a Big Push right now on the issue of age mental acuity the writing in that poll i just shared the post the Post Poll that where people said that trump lost that debate 52 of voters in that reuters ipsos poll said trump was not sharp, and that he said adding that he stumbled. Do you think aaron, that this is now an issue for him that the 20 Year Age Gap that theyre sort of turning this that worked on biden on it ted and pointing it at trump could be effective i dont necessarily think that that will be effective because people already have the baked in notion about Donald Trump, his name id, people, their belief in him where he stands, people have a really firm understanding of that. And with that comes his age. The only reason it would be a detriment or it could work in Kamalas Favor is if she somehow begins to pull away the mantle that she is the Change Candidate, that she is the one that will be the Change Vote in the election because right now even with Donald Trump being older, voters are saying and pulling that they believe he is the Change Candidate at that point, if she becomes the Change Candidate maybe you can start making the argument about age that shes as shes saying, the new generation of leadership. But at this point, the american people see him as the change. So i dont think that that necessarily is going to work for democrats as an argument right now. Yeah, i dont have to agree. I disagree. Yeah. Yeah. Ahead, lulu. Yeah, i. Disagree. I think republicans are now in the position that the democrats want when when they had ahead of the ticket that really couldnt prosecute the case and i think the real implications of this last debate is it for the first time you saw these two Candidates Sidebyside and one was able to very articulately argue the case for democrats. And really prosecute the case for democrats, which is something theyve been craving and Donald Trump simply unable to do it. And so i really think that people are now seeing a different Donald Trump. Donald trump is in Decline And Age only goes one way. You dont get sharper with age, unfortunately. And so i think this is something that republicans are going to have to come Face To face with. David. I know. I just think she did look like the Change Candidate on that stage. And i think age was part of it. He looked old and he looked he looked like Yesterdays News and i do think this is working in favor and i have to say, you can get all kinds of outcomes based on how you ask polling questions youve say, who represents changed from biden. Of course, shes not going to pull well, if you ask the question, who represents change, right . She she pulls better, so i wouldnt put too much credence on that one poll. All right. Well, i appreciate all three of you. Thank you very much. Lulu, aaron, david, and next, Trump Trolling Taylor swift with his own merchandise inspired by the Singers World Tour the youngest State Party Leader, the head of the North Carolina democrats Taylor Swift. Wheres her Friendship Bracelet is outfrontplus, she is a farright conspiracy theorist, trading blows with report publicans tonight, including Marjorie Taylor Greene. But she has been incredibly close to trump in recent days. Who is Laura Loomer . How much influence does she have over trump . 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Get your slippers, dry wide Fed Sketcher Slip tonight, Kamala Harris hammering Donald Trump in the key Swing State of North Carolina, blasting trumps Debate Performance just a few moments ago in greensboro tuesday night, i talked about issues that im no matter to the families across america, but thats not what we heard from Donald Trump. Instead, you know, when i called you at the beginning of the debate, it was the same old show same old tired playbook for years with no plan for how he would address the needs of the american people well folks look its time to turn the page now, the Harris Campaign is putting pressure on trump in North Carolina, a state he won by just 1. 3 percentage points in 2020, but in you know, there was, there was wide margin compared to other states its a State Biden didnt think was competitive, but for fodor harris, it is and the latest poll in the state actually shows harris ahead by three points. Again, in American Politics, thats a lot before biden dropped out, he was behind trump by four points. Seven point swing. Dianne gallagher is in North Carolina for tonights voters outfront we gone to this Kamala Harris back in battleground, North Carolina, feeling a lot of hope now, which i wasnt feeling before fresh off the performance, her supporters believe will help flip the state blue in november, races are won or lost on the margin in North Carolina, i think she did enough to convince people who were on the fence to go toward her way. She came out on top. It wasnt close head and shoulders. Republicans here say criticism of former president Donald Trumps Debate Showing is overblown. He was three against one and Wont Matter come november, i think for all we lost this country and not the people on big conjured. I think he wants did the best score as he wants to fight. But in this critically close state, there was nothing in the debate that helped me make the decision that i need not. Everyone has made up their mind you are an undecided voter undecided who is strongly looking towards third party. Did the Debate Change Anything for you know, it didnt jibril half says hell only vote for a candidate who supports an Arms Embargo on israel and a ceasefire in gaza. Thats more important than an economy thats more important. Healthcare thats more important than so many other things because we have to stop this genocide others want more specifics. There wasnt a lot of policy that was talked about just kind of like Aimless Plan Ends and vibes honestly, naomi hernandez, whole registered republican, who voted for trump in 2020, has not been swayed by harris but remains frustrated by the former president. And i was just really disappointed because he hasnt shown and putin himself lucky there with the first campaign, especially on reproductive rights, the kind or the flexor ornette. He didnt really speak on it like i wanted him to when they kept asking if the bill came to his desk, would he be taught or will he banded with 50 plus days to decide . Paul says she is going to take her time. Im going to continue to look to see what theyre going to say for the next couple of weeks to kind of weigh it out. And undecided voters like those really will make a difference here in North Carolina where polling shows that Trump And Harris are virtually tied hi, both campaigns have already spent millions of dollars here with millions more in ad reservations through the election. Its no coincidence that the first postdebate stopped for harris a pair of rallies right here in North Carolina where every vote truly does count and erin, as you can see, there are still some votes up for grabs here. Yeah, hes amazing, fascinating those voters that you spoke to diane. Thank you and outfront now, anderson clayton, chair of the North Carolina democratic party. Shes the youngest State Party Leader in the united states in an election where young voters are becoming increasingly fired up and more engaged. And anderson, im so glad to talk to you again so lets just talk about those voters that dianne spoke to undecided to democrats won disaffected republican there saying theyre still figuring it out. The harris didnt do anything during the debate during their support do you think that she should have a message specifically to voters like them or do you think that right now in North Carolina, this is just about turnout for people who already Support Harris i think we have to make sure that were going during this election, and in particular about harris is plan to make sure that young people have a future in this state, which is what weve been doing across College Campuses this last week in the last two weeks, and also since school has been back in Session Hiring and making sure we have over 30 plus organizers that are really prioritizing the Youth Vote here in North Carolina this year because we know its what led Brock Obama to that groundswell when in 2008 here in this state, right. And he was the first democrat to win North Carolina, the only democrat to win and more than 40 years, i know interesting you are with Harris Today at one of her rallies and you met with her before she became the democratic nominee is a picture of you together right now . Shes investing a lot of time and money in the state. Now, obviously, Barak Obama won trump one in 20 0. 20. Then an anderson, i just wanted to share these numbers with you because your take on this is really important. Voter registration among North Carolina democrats since 2020 when trump won, is down more than 216,000. So down Voter Registration republican Voter Registration is up 47,000. Okay. So that looks really bad. But then anderson, theres this unaffiliated Category Registered Voters as unaffiliated is up by nearly 420,000 what are those numbers say to you it means that everybody again is somebody worth talking to. I think that especially when youre looking at new voters and young voters, this election cycle, theyre turned off with politics. They think that both parties dont represent them right now, and its our job to be at the doors and to be on these campuses emphasizing to them why the democratic party aligns with their values and what theyre choosing to fight for it. The Ballot Box this year. And what weve been hearing across these campuses and not just on College Campuses, but amongst young people and new voters in general is the fight that they want to make sure they have the opportunity to own a home in North Carolina this year, and the opportunity to fight for fair wages in our state and the right to be able to o when an operate their own body, how they choose two, which is something that our republican State Legislature restricted last year in 2023, when Barak Obama won our state in 2008, we had a democratic State Legislature in North Carolina, and in 2010, we add the republicans come in and take control of our state and our State Legislature. And i think thats was honest they prevented Barack Obama for being able to win this state again. Were making sure that were chasing after those voters that feel like gerrymandering has disenfranchise them in North Carolina over the last six election cycles in our state this year. So interested, obviously, Taylor Swift has endorsed Kamala Harris and the Trump Campaign is now sent out a tweet which they have directed at quote, swifties for trump. And theyre selling a tshirt with different photos of trump designed in the style of the Eras Tour popular Taylor Swift tour, obviously going on, i want to play for you. What one of swifts fans who actually supports trump . Told cnn the other day to endorse Harris Taylor has food on her table for the majority of americans, i think were done listening to what celebrities and people in hollywood are telling us to do. Were doing what we need to do for ourselves and our family look, i know anderson know obviously youre a swiftie. Your Offices Harris has actually wearing a Friendship Bracelet you made and those are very popular amongst swifts fans what do you think about her endorsement . And you know, it just youre honest view. And i know you love Taylor Swift, but when youre on College Campuses, you are on one today do you, think its actually moving votes the most popular hot item that we have on a Table Today was a Friendship Bracelet that we were making in so yeah. I mean, i think it matters and i think that every voter has the chance this year to do what taylor slips, ask them to do, which is just do your research, make sure they youre looking into all the candidates on your ballot. This year and her choice is clear in this election. Shes going to fight for someone that champions reproductive freedom, like we know, Vice President harris is going to continue to do for women across this country. And shes behind that. So were excited for it this year. All right. Well, anderson, its great to talk to you again. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next, she has celebrated the deaths of muslim migrants. Shes pushed 911 conspiracy theories. Marjorie Taylor Greene now says shes crossed the line. 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She notably flew to philadelphia with trump before the debate that she was with him. And shes now taking a lot of heat from republicans accusing her of Feeding Trump Conspiracy theories. Elie reeve has this piece, youll see first outfront i shall try yeoh, america first this is far right. Activist Laura Loomer and White Nationalist nick fuentes, cheering to the hostile Takeover Republican Party and theyre not wrong. Both met personally with Donald Trump i first met loomer in 2017 at an event for me nanosphere influencer, Mike Sort of edge at the time anomer was an activist who had celebrated the deaths of muslim uyghurs. But she was being harassed by White Nationalists, trolls because shes a jewish woman. Since then shes taken a strange trajectory with years somewhat in obscurity because shed been banned from so many Social Media sites its like twitter with Elon Musk took over twitter, she came back. She does stunts like ambush interviews. Frank, why arent you supporting president trump freiman, successful investigative journalists . Loomer recently told Cnn Shes not antimuslim now, some might dispute that shes entered the mainstream, but shes reached the former president s elite Inner Circle flying to the president ial debate on trumps plane. To New York as he observed the anniversary of 911 a notable appearance since loomer has pushed the false Conspiracy Theory that 911 was an inside job. She has been seen with trump At Bedminster and with the greatest president ever after rumors circulated among rightwing twitter users, including loomer, that haitian immigrants are eating peoples pads in Ohio Trump repeated the claim in the day. Theyre eating the dogs, the people that came in, i spoke to loomer before the debate. She told me shes attacked as a childless woman who devotes all her time to a man who will never pay attention to her meaning trump. But trump does pay attention to her and reads her reports how are you you look so so far hes always you dont want to be louvered. Have youre in deep trouble everybody. My name is she ran for congress twice and lost. But she told me she built a constituency among the very pro trump voters in the villages of retirement community. Thats important in florida republican politics she called them boomers for loomer. They were paying attention when she began attacking governor Ron Desantis for having the temerity to run for president against Trump Loomer told Me One of her donors let it slip that desantis, whos running for president in 2021, shooting on the first stop on the desantis book tour, she stood in front with a Trump Sign and a tshirt despite her new closeness to the former president , some protrump republicans are very against her Pr Rhetoric and her town is, does not match the base, does not match. Maga, does not match. Most republicans i know. And i am completely denouncing it. Im over it i mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene la saying that its something right as loyal and big of a maga as it gets lindsey Graham Today called her comments disturbing. Does she carry influence with others in the Republican Party . And you know, what, what do they think about her right now, seemingly incredible closeness to trump she told. Me that when she met j. D. Vance, he hugged her even though she was in her words, a childless Dog Lady now she also thinks that shes been held on the periphery of the maga media world, doesnt get those prime Speaking Slots and conservative conferences but her work is reaching like regular people last year during the president ial primary i talked to this man in His 70s who proclaimed Laura Loomer has destroyed the Desantis Campaign almost with a touch of pride. Wow, it is really incredible to watch, to watch all of this obviously, in her wanting to have conversations with you, elie. Thank you so much. Thanks. All right. Next, a Special Report. 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Trump specifically has pointed on this issue to El Salvador, once called the Murder Capital of the world and controlled by gangs for decades, client crime is now plummeting in El Salvador, reported crime as the u. S. Sees, hundreds of migrants at the border each day, which has led trump to make this claim Grinnell Salvador murders are down by 70 . Why are they down . Did down because theyre sending their murderers to the united states of america so our David Culver went to El Salvador. He took trumps claim directly to the Countrys Security no. No visit the province with that is you dont have fact you dont have evidence of that instead of that, we have evidence where we put our terrorists so david said, well, show me, let me see the evidence and he got a very rare look inside El Salvadors prisons for this piece, youll see first outfront layering up to walk through an Atari Asli Gang infested part of El Salvadors capital killed by the Countrys Defense Minister is our tour guide. And this area especially was very, very dangerous. He said, go back three or four years the folks who lived in this area didnt even want to look Police And Military in the eye if the bad guy hi, say hi, Class Theyve gives him violence suffocated nearly all aspects of life in El Salvador, but now, walking these once deadly streets with the Defense Minister feels more like a victory parade. Hello handshakes. Has anyone hugs photos even carrying babies thats the 100. For some, even asking about the past brings out tears if they must cheaper so i dont know like here before she says less than a decade ago, El Salvador was labeled the deadliest country in the world murders have since plummeted according to government data for more than 6062015 to 154 last year, life has seemingly returned to these streets now i feel a little bit silly, even having to wear this. The biggest threat is a slowdown and going to where you need to go because of taking photos and saying hi to people. But how did it all change so quickly cnn. Booker is most crediting nayib bukele, the Countrys President in 2019, he came into office his actions controversial consolidating power, tightening his grip of control, and essentially eliminating any political opposition they been most acute under a State Of Emergency, more than 81,000 people arrested. Bukele, even boasting that El Salvador now has the highest Incarceration Rate in the world the government says the most hardened Gang Members and up here at the Terrorism Confinement Center government images from inside have been widely shared on Social Media but most of those arrested are actually kept in facilities like these a side of El Salvadors prison system. Few have seen you can actually see just where we are. Theres row after row this facility alone holds roughly 30,000 inmates put to work tasked with rehabilitating themselves and their country you can even see theres a Police Vehicle that theyre working on it we tour another facility where inmates are making Government Uniforms and Building Desks for local schools some inmates are sent it to communities to help heal the nation by erasing parts of a painful past. President bukele ordered the inmates to shatter Gang Tombstones so this is one of them here and you can see this is all broken off. There still buried here and they still have a plot. But any mention of their past Gang Affiliations and nicknames destroyed driving through the capitol, we see Kids Playing Parks packed with vendors and families, and lots of traffic at all might seem normal but local stress to us, this is all new to them. Its calm, but theres no way i see them. Before and nobody would visit here. Not even your own family, though, feeling safer. This woman tells me the drastic changes have come at a devastating cost. You allow us shes in her son who helped her normally financially is in jail for her. Yeah. It might be safer here, but economically its no better. She says her son is being held at one of the Work Prisons we visited but that he is innocent and has not been given the opportunity you need to defend himself. Its a claim many have made against the government but the Boogie Administration is adamant that theyve taken lawful and necessary steps to liberate this country we meet this woman who says shes been able to move in thanks to the changes so for her to be here in this space now to have a little business, she says has been a blessing, keeping the gangs out has meant military patrols at all hours though now, even the site of armored trucks with flashing lights surrounded by heavily armed soldiers no longer intimidating for residents so much as fascinating, theyre just curious and wanting to take a picture in video of the inside of some of this military equipment mr. President says, this is a miracle. He says this is a medical and perhaps like a miracle El Salvadors transformation hasnt its skeptics and doubters. But most everyone we find here be able to for now at least, developed believers hopeful this change will last at ics. Were not take a listen absolutely incredible and to be able to see whats going on in those prisons, david and as part of your reporting you also met with migrants, but not the kind that americans think of youre talking about people who left the united states and cross the border to go south to El Salvador, who are they i feel like most of the time you and i are talking about immigration, im usually at the border talking about the people who are trying to get into the u. S. Youre right. This is the other direction were talking about two different things that were looking at. Okay. Youre talking about the folks who are deciding not to leave and are staying in El Salvador. And its interesting because we pull the numbers from customs and border protection. And if you go back to the start of that controversial State Of Emergency in 2022, you go one year out the number of people crossing the Southern Border from El Salvador dropped 36 . Its on track to drop even further this year as a causation, as a correlation . Too early to see, but certainly coincidental with the start of that very, very aggressive crackdown under President Bukele the other part of this is, as you say, people who left El Salvador Years Ago and who are now going back, some of them to start their lives a new within their home country, and others like this woman we met, who are just visiting after having left as young children and get into reno, their homeland this cant be the same country. Theres no way because i dont see that. I feel super safe and now im like kinda sad that ive lost so many years and not have seen my family for 30 something years we met several folks who had a similar response to that i mean, i think that was really eyeopening for us and we really struggled. Aaron defined people who didnt feel safe or there. Yes, there are a lot of questions over the tactics here. Theres a lot of concerns and Human Rights Groups have raised these concerns, but the people there have a very, very adamant and firm stance that they feel safer and Tomorrow Night around this time, im going to share a bit more about the folks who have return to all salvador, which is a fascinating part of the story and totally untold David Culver, thank you, and i want everyone to know as david said, part two of this incredible reporting will be here Tomorrow Night outfront with david and well see you then next after the debate, what is the one thing that people are googling about trump . Harry enten . He will tell you gutters can cause big problems fast until now call it threethree Lee Filter today for your free Gutter Inspection, ive had terrible Flooding Problems on my porch. 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So harry, when you look at that just as a general proxy or youthful enthusiasm and exuberance, you see it, shes riding high. This obviously could still be though a very tight race. So does the Energy Match the reality . I mean, look, we have a new reuters ipsos poll that came out after the debate. It has harris up by Five Points, but thats in fact not much of a change from where we were last month when it was harris by four, i think the general picture looking out in the polling here is yes, harris was doing better than she did when she gone in the race in terms of postdebate versus pre debate, i think theres been a little bit of Money Movement across the different metrics that im looking at. But the Bottom Line is not that much movement, which i guess its not so surprising that 5050 country, right . Right. Well, that would make that would make sense. But again, you start with two, you get to four 45 is a big moves relatively speaking, right . So, all right, so in the debate, trump made his waves not for the reasons that his campaign wanted him do. They wanted them to lay out policy. But you did some digging and found out what is actually breaking through that he said, what people are looking at . Yeah. What are the rising things that people are googling along with Donald Trumps name. Its not what Donald Trumps campaign would necessarily want, right . Its Eating Pets its eating dogs, its Eating Cats obviously that was Donald Trumps moments on the debate stage. Of course, thats up a gazy story. Its not real, its baked yet he went after it. This is a disaster. Who the heck, if youre running a president ial campaign that youd want your name being google with Eating Pets, eating dogs, Eating Cats like that. This gracious well, i mean, maybe he thinks its a win all right. So he is shutting down the possibility of another debate, maybe because even though he says he won, he seen that reuters ipsos poll. Hes seen what people think, all right, so he could change his mind. Erinperrine was saying he does mine again and we dont know what will happen, but is it better for him as you look at the numbers to do another debate or not . What republican voters believe that he in fact should do another debate because perhaps they feel like he cant do particularly worse than he did in that debate against Kamala Harris. Interestingly enough, democrats actually do not want other bait, just 35 one another debate, that of course makes sense as well, because i think a lot of those democrats feel like, hey, Kamala Harris beat Donald Trump lets run off The Field right now, but thats what i was saying to axelrod. Why not just take your chips and go and he we