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Guys like us you think theres good and bad right and wrong this justifiable the Penguin Streaming exclusively on max here we go. Again, another debate over another debate believe starts right now, Donald Trump said, no new face off, but thats not what Kamala Harris just said. The Vice President is in Battleground North carolina right now trying to pull ahead in this Neck And Neck wakes plus a split in the Republican Party spills into public view with people well close to trump worrying about his close connection with a controversial rightwing activist. Good, her influence, cost the former president votes and with just the who hours until kickoff, cnn investigates a huge role change me to keep Football Players say, all the way from the nfl to our youngest athletes on the field to the lead, im Pamela Brown in for jake tapper. And just moments ago, former President Trump on social waited with huge news on the prospect of another president ial debate saying, quote there will be no third debate. This announcement coming as he and Vice President Kamala Harris are back on the Campaign Trail Today after their contentious debate on tuesday, which many conservatives and some trump allies viewed as a win for him. Harris. Now right now, harris is speaking in Battleground North carolina, where she to wait in on a third debate, that possibility just moments ago and. I believe we, oh it to the voters to have another debate regardless of who won. Tuesdays debate and whether we get another one. This very close race is far from over anything can happen. And the next eight weeks before for Election Day. And of course, early voting is Kicking Off, right in fact, Democrats Today are being realistic or given themselves a Reality Check and practically every Conversation Public or private harris aides and harris herself are tempering expectations and continuing to insist she is the underdog to avoid getting burned by overconfidence our panel is here to discuss a lot happening today. Mark, lets kick it off with you with this news from trump that he wont Debate Harris again is this a mistake . No, i dont think so because i think regardless of what the polls and the overall numbers say about who won, who lost . When you look at the reuters panel, when you look at the quotes from the New York times, it shows that the undecided voters, which is the really the only voters that count right now. They didnt leave that Debate Thinking camila one or she didnt seal the deal they still like the trump policies. They want the lower costs. They want a secure border. She hasnt sold them yet. Thats on her. I dont think they think another debate is in his interests. I will note though in our Cnn Poll conducted after the debate, 69 of independents pulled, did think that harris won the debate. And so you have to ask the question, would another debate potentially be an opportunity for trump to try to sway some of those independency needs Donald Trump has debated more in president ial general elections than anyone in american history and he won the debate against Joe Biden in our poll by 35 points but the other six debates against Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden now, Kamala Harris, he lost by an average of 25 points. Okay. Hes a terrible debater the titanic didnt sell across the atlantic a second time. Okay. He needs to he should mute his microphone when hes speaking not just when mcconnell is making i mean, hes awful at this. Hes the most experienced end. He gets worse with everyone with a great exception of when President Biden just lost the debate, he just collapsed in trump won that. And thats to his credit. I didnt think he performed all that well, but it didnt matter. Because biden collapsed. But except for that one, hes been terrible. This of course, is not going to debate again, hes awful. Harris to say there should be i mean, she humiliated here on she emasculated him. She spanked his fanny for 90 minutes in front of millions of voters. Why would he want to do that . Again . We have of course, she wants to do it again because she scored an a plus. She was stellar. She had high expectations going in. Shes surpassed those expectations in dismantled him in. So of course, hes coming out to say, no way. I dont want that again, you said this in a lot of democrats have been you know, On A High after this debate, viewing her as the winner this morning on cnn, it was really interesting. Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell praise the Debate Performance, but then she said there was this Phone Call that she had from one of her Township Supervisors and it really brought her back down to earth when they discussed how trumps message to marks point resonated with people in this critical Battleground State of michigan. Heres what she said he stayed on message on immigration and immigration is a powerful, it leads to insecurity, fear, both in economics, the job market, with all due respect, i think to see him and then pull that shoulder four points up was not accurate. There had been two others polls in michigan that ive trusted know the pollsters that both showed, that statistical dead heat. Its just closer than people realize what do you think is this a orality hundred percent right ive known debbie a long time, so im biased. Shes a Friend Of Mine Democrats who dont listen to Debbie Dingell are fools, knows michigan better than anybody happened in 20. She signed, sounded the warning 2016, people didnt listen to it by the way, its just good sense. You Cow Hairstyle says on the underdog, because she is you, you get this because youre from kentucky. Eddie sutton was legendary Basketball Coach at kentucky before that, he coached arkansas so im working for the governor of arkansas. Hes running for president. Its the last ten days of the race, and he had put it away. Frankly, he was running away with it at this point. But last week or two, not like this, a dead Heat Eddie called, i got the call. He said you go until bill, your two points up with two minutes to play, press, dont stall best advice ever. God, i went of course, toll clinton, i tell every politician that press dont stall. She is she is dead heat tide. She really is. And so shes got to press by those soldiers, mr. Trump, nobody should take their foot off the gas in this i want to actually bring more back in on this sound. The sound from frank luntz, whos of course a pollster republican pollster. Hes often a guest here on this show. He was speaking to Piers Morgan about his take on the debate, debate and what it means for trump. Heres what he said. I think that this will cost him yes, im trying to decide if i want to go on record and the answers yes. I think that he loses because of this Debate Performance i love frankly, i consider him a friend, but i think hes really off base on this one. I mean a couple of things. Number one, i dont think any of the polls show that to the polls even though they all show Neck And Neck in the wet last ten years, Donald Trump doesnt underperform polls have overperforms polls. And i think thats why they have the confidence of thinking that right now Camila Harris is underperforming where Joe Biden was. Shes underperforming where Hillary Clinton was in 2016, both nationally and in the Battleground States. This is still Donald Trumps race to lose. Yeah, i want to get back to you, but i want to go straight to charlotte, North Carolina where Camila Harris is speaking live right now. Lets listen think about that. And let us be very clear somebody who suggest we should terminate the Constitution Of The United States never again stand behind the seal one of the points that i mentioned on tuesday. So let the people who served under him at the White House who saw him every day, right . Is national Security Adviser his defense secretary, his chief of staff, and his Vice President. All have mourned oa, who worked with him every day in the White House that with them in the Oval Office have warned America Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States again, occupy our nations highest back it comes down to this we are here together because we love our country we love our country. And we understand the awesome awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on earth. The Privilege And Pride of being an american believe it is the highest form then of patriotism to fight for the eals of our country and to fight to realize the promise of america so North Carolina we have 54 days until Election Day and just 35 days just 35 days until early voting begins its not only the presidency thats on the Balloces Includin was my Donald Trump and wants a ban, a total ban on abortion in this thing, right . So the stakes in this election up and down the ballot, up and down the ballot but we know the power is with the people the power is with the people. And your voice is your vote. North carolina we know, heres the thing also. Were all, weve got. We are just we are loving, our campaign, arent we . We are know. But heres the thing hours will be a very tight race until The End okay its going to be a tight race until The End and we are the underdog understand that we are the underdog. There are powerful forces trying to convince people that their vote doesnt matter there are say all that to say weve got some Hard Work ahead of us but heres the thing i love about everybody here we love Hard Work. Heartbreak is good work we will win in november. We will win carolina. Today and then ask you, are you ready to make your voices heard promise of america well, there you heard america graham passion, Camila Harris, wrapped up the momentum from the debate on tuesday night, sticking with that message that she is the underdog and there are so a lot of Hard Work ahead. Nia malika, what was your takeaway and listen, she is the underdog. Shes a black woman. There hasnt even been a black woman elected governor ever in its countries over the idea that shes going to be the prison of the United States. She is certainly the underdog and has a lot to overcome. That is why the campaign is poised in the way that they are. Listen there in North Carolina, there in georgia, the sunbelt has opened up to Combo Harris in a way that it was shut shut off to buy in North Carolina. This is a state that obama was able to win in 2008. He lost it four years later georgia has many, many hbcus. Theres been a surge. We were just talking about this, a surge in interest in volunteers and registration are particularly among African American voters and young voters. So listen, shes got a real path. Shes got more paths and biden had but listen, as she said, is going to take a lot of Hard Work. Theres two polls in North Carolina this week, each show her three points ahead. Now, thats still margin of error. Its a state except for Barak Obama at my party has not carried in 25 years or 50 years. So its a very hard state for democrats we can be done and i just was Speech Writer that Pair Oration we just showed she has the audience chanting, yes. Yes, thats all positive is affirmative. You want that . And then she says at The End, when we fight, we win. This is very affirming and positive its a stark contrast with mr. Trump, which is americas terrible and were decline were bad. Reading dogs apparently. Currently, theres a lot of dogeating in ohio, which hot dogs i get, but i dont think anything beyond that, but yeah, i liked the way she close it. This is no different though than the convention. The debate, or what we just heard. There is still no answer. There is no. Im going to lower the Gas And Grocery prices. Im going to secure the border and theres. Also the middle a fundamental shes fundamentally not recognizing that she and Joe Biden are the ones who created these problems. So i loved the soaring rhetoric shes, shes will find speaker, but unlike a bill clinton, unlike a Barak Obama, who the voters blamed their predecessors for their economic malaise and they were rewarded for it. The people blame Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and they should. So its hard to say you get a Change Agent when youre the one who caused it in the first place, im just going to say, you can disagree with camo harrisons policy, but this idea that she has no policy just isnt true. She has an immigration policy. Its the policy that Donald Trump blocked in that he wants to put into law if Shes President xi has policies on small businesses, she has she has policies on housing. So this sort of idea that somehow government policies is that messaging getting through to the voter to those independents and movable voters that she needs to win the policy. No. Im sorry. Were 54 days from an election. I care about policy but what were calling harris has done is she combines policy with biography, Policy Plus Biography equals authenticity in vibes, right . I mean, right. Part but shes going for groceries and gas with wagner. Shes got plenty of Policy Groceries were cheaper, gas like what it was all right. What else stick around . 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This just minutes after he posted on Social Media that he is Blowing Ofanother debate. I want to bring in republican Senator Markwayne Mullin of oklahoma, senator. Thank you for coming on the show for the last debate brought and 67 Million viewers, is trump missing an opportunity here by saying no to another debate. I think we had an opportunity to do another debate On Fox, right . Hes did he do dont want to see an nda which kudos you guys, i thought cnn did a pretty good job. And then we had one of the abc and it wasnt i mean, the moderators there with lindsey and david, i didnt think they were anywhere close to being even. I mean, it was very onesided. You could tell. I think if she would agree to do one On Fox it may be a different story but theyre not willing and i do one On Fox. So i would suggest the same thing. Why would we go into a another left leaning Media Outlet when she hasnt wants decided to go over to a more of a concern about like Like Fox or even newsmax or any level. And i know abc, what contest the description of of left Lee Mean and you have an issue with the moderators weve heard that from other republicans, but isnt this an opportunity to reach millions of people he reaches millions people every day. But in an abc can say whatever they want. But the truth is, lindsey facts, factchecked Donald Trump multiple times throughout the whole event, not one time. Do they ever call out a camila on any of her comments . Like saying that shes for guns when shes in 2019, she was obviously for the buyback about saying shes never talked about banning fracking when in 2019 she openly said she 100 wanted to ban fracking, and they didnt want to call her out on that. They were constantly pushing back on Donald Trump. So you can say whatever you want, but the american people saw exactly. They were were pushing on Donald Trump and not one time pushing back on anything. She said, so its 100 abc can be whatever say, whatever they want. There are 100 left at this point. Okay, so were not going to the backandforth as we have a lot to get to. And one is the fact that look, early voting is Kicking Off the racist supertied as you know, somewhat trumps confidence are starting to scare gop veterans based on our reporting just coming in. I have to ask you, should rightwing firebrand like Laura Loomer, who once said 911 was an inside job, be in trumps ear yeah. President trump is rho good about surrounding around, surround himself around people. Thats that gives him the positive Advice And Information that is useful to him winning the election. Just say who should be around his ear, who shouldnt. This is a guy thats been very successful in business. Hes built a wonderful brand. He very successful business along the way. Hes not been in politics, but he knows how to put the right people in place to get the job done. And im convinced yet been talked about all the people he thought he had to fire a ministration. So how is he paying on the right . Everybody said a fiery them. Everybody said if our people, ive had a higher, ive hired thousands of people and i fired hundreds of people because you have to hire, right . You got to fire, right . You dont no. Exactly how the person is until they get past or sixweek honeymoon. And then you start figuring out the rural individual, any Business Owner out there. Well tell you its just important to heart to hire the right people is to also to fire the right people because they can be horrible the work environment. Youve worked with people that need to be fired, right . Probably. Is the argument. Oh, he hired he put the right people in place, but he has fired a number of them when you got not got to keep in mind that how many horrible decision says this administration made and havent he hasnt held anybody accountable when a bad decision is made,individuals is that par of this administration has made a disastrous decision after disastrous decision, ill going back all the way from the afghanistan withdrawal to where we are Today And Ukraine and not one single person has been held accountable, not one person. What President Trump did, he was real good about holding people accountable under his administration. Thats part of life, Thats Part of the worst fire his debate, the team that prepped him as oh, i dont have that for the debate. No, Senator Graham is a great friend of mine. I thought President Trump did a great job. I mean, i talked to match words. He said, you know, fighting this kind of my background. So you do professionally write and he says, how do you fight three people at once. I said you dont, you run isnt that kind of an admission that he didnt win if youre putting all the blame on the referees general said on this network, as you know, is a conservative said, look, if youre not making the bank shots, you cant blame the referee. I think President Trump made a very good Point Today when he made his announcement, when he says the person that loses always wants a rematch. Shes the one that started calling for a rematch immediately. Thatll tell you who won and who lost the reporting to our Cnn Poll, 69 of independents who trump needs to win this election in these key Battleground States thought that Kamala Harris won this debate, but i want to move on to ask you about this and this. Lets get into a little bit of policy now, trump is now floating 100 tariffs on all imported goods from certain countries. Hes doubling the price of everyday purchases for americans. If trump wins, would you support that policy . And its impact on what youre taking your taking a little bit out of context there because i worked with him during the terrorists and what hes forced free trade, what he started, his pupil taken advantage of us if were going to have trade with china, trade with any European Country we need to make sure its even remember the Trade Policy Work on earth is so Trade Policy was put in place to rebuild the world after World War ii. And we gave them access to our economy. The country is being rebuilt. Now, we are able to access their economy just like they are and they dont want to change those, those, those decisions. They want to have it allow us to have 20 and access to their economy. They want on 100 access to us. And so what hes saying right now is if youre not going to do that, then were going to put tariffs on your goods. If youre not going to allow us to bring are still in europe country, but yet you want to bring your still to ours. Then were going to be tariffs on your goods, right now. What we have facing as inflation based on the horrible disastrous energy policies of this administration has now thats real issues though. Those could be changed today if this Administration Change there and i understand you want to pivot to that, but i do want to follow up because cnn spoke to the former Chief Economist at the international monetary fund, who says that policy that i didnt take out a context that i took trumps own words would make inflation far worse, but we are running out of time, but i do want to ask you this attorney general Merrick Garland spoke about the threats against the Justice Department and election officials and what they are facing going into this election and just launched this election. Threats Task Force last election, you were one of the lawmakers who voted to not certify Bidens Victory if trump loses and every state certifies as the results of their election, will you accept a peaceful transfer of power . You know, its hard to say what youre going to do, what youre not because my job is to make sure their regularities or within the standard that the federal government puts out place which has us, what is irregularities that were willing to accept if its pasos irregularities and a Disc Trick or state, then absolutely not. It was with no sanders every state certifies the Election Results and they have their own progress if the elections are certified underneath the standards that they put forth, every state has the right to set their will because the every states sets her own State Election laws, right. But in federal government sets irregularities as to which how far they can go so is it, is it going to be less than 1 of that, less than a half percent, whatever those irregularities are, well take that case at a time. I will say this pam, at this point, it doesnt matter if republicans win or the democrats win. Both parties are probably going to cry, cry foul. You got to remember in 20 in 2016 when President Trump won that democrats were saying that election was stolen and then in any movement. But no, its not it still with the election were going to claim that the election was stolen. It doesnt make him youre telling me in 2015, pam, that democrats didnt say that the election was rigged they did, they absolutely right. That isnt in 20. And i just want to get to snot. Not absolutely. Did they say it or didnt not because i can i can you had as a speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, wasnt the speaker then openly said that the election was not fair. She said that the democracy is in place. You had Maxine Waters stand up there and said we got a fight against this corrupt system that stole the election promos. Theyre worried democrats, it says, and what happened in 2020 . He was you had a sitting president in office who lost the election, who said it was rigged, it was stolen. And members of Congress Voting against certification that the states had already certified and taking it to the supreme court, trying to overturn what do you want to talk about how you did not talk about the democrats didnt vote to serve didnt vote to certify the election when bush won, its one we can go way back in history. We talked about man, person who did another park and you saw January 6 know what i hear from one of the question i asked you, what you are not willing to accept the results of this next election, even if every State Certified him. And i said im going to look at it ill tell absolutely. Ill look at it. I have no issues are looking at im going to look at this, but im not going to sit here and tell you what im going to do and not going to do until i could see the results. And it doesnt its not based on who wins it is based on the results of the regularities. Im there to make sure that the election is held in his helmet within our constitutional boundaries. I will uphold the constitution. I swore to do that. It doesnt make any difference who wins it . Obviously, id love President Trump to win. But if the election is fair in its handled in the right way, and i got to vote to certify it. Ill vote to certify that. I think the problem is the election was free and fair in 2020. And yet wasnt there when bush won and be notified . When bush won and had this hanging, chad, was it fair at that time because there was democrats that voted not to certify the election back then okay. 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Cnn is reporting that some republicans are concerned about Laura Loomer influence on trump. And then you heard that from the senator basically defending trump and saying he surrounds himself with the best people. What do you think look Laura Loomer is a crackpot. Laura loomer to take Laura Loomer to 911 Commemoration Event when Laura Loomer not very long ago, talked about how 911 was an inside job is a bad idea. To the extent that people are honest about whether or not about how badly trump lost the debate. Most people will tell you its because he listens to people like Laura Loomer who do not give him you know who live inside this very maga bubble always tell him hes awesome and great. Im sure one of the reasons why he trump sincerely thinks he did a fantastic job is because when he got out, Laura Loomer told him, you did a fantastic job and thats what he surrounds up with some very smart people. He also surrounds himself with just unbelievable sycophant Laura Loomer is in the sycophant category. What do you think marc Laura Loomer does not work for the Campaign Adviser according to our reporting, do you have she was not. And i would say though, that she she does have a voice and a certain segment of the the of the party. And i would say that he was listed. Shes already gotten wet, but its also but i would say the same reason why that and i would equate it to the democrats having to listen to the squad, you have to know where they are. You have to know where their objections are. You have to know what theyre doing. Hes listening to his far right. As you have to listen to their extreme crazy far left and so i equate it that way. I dont know Laura Loomer. I wouldnt know her if she came up to me in the street. I do know that trump had 42 members of his cabinet, 42 18 of them are opposing, are refusing to support him. Maybe accurate. 18, 42 members of his cabinet, his own Vice President , mike pence, is not supporting him of all of the living nominees of the Republican Party for president and Vice President One Supports Donald Trump, governor palin, former Governor Payment of alaska. Everyone else. So thats why hes turning to people with apparently eccentric views on the internet about 9 11, because the legitimate republicans are running away from him like the devil runs from holy water. It strikes me on this. And Laura Loomer, that you have Congressman Woman Marjorie Taylor Greene even coming out and saying shes too extreme. Wow, that is a shocker because she of course, you know, believes in jewish Space Lasers you know, Laura Loomer is a truther when it comes to 911, believes in Conspiracy Theories, but Donald Trump himself without Laura Loomer believes in all sorts of Conspiracy Theories to so you are who you surround yourself with. And i think that is the case here. I mean, she has tweeted awful things, awful racist things. This is what she said. Camila harris, the White House will smell like curry. And why . They tell speeches will be facilitated via a call center. If Kamala Harris gets into the White House that of course is a reference to her indian heritage. Its a stereotype. Its racist, its terrible in this is somebody who is in Donald Trumps ear, both as a sink of it, but also somebody who is telling him things like their dogs in Dog Eating in ohio he stopped for his part. I dont know if we have here that he keeps tweeting out or putting memes up of him, saving cats continuing to fuel this. There we go, right there. Continuing to fuel this Conspiracy Theory that has been debunked many times over five. The town of springfield, where this allegedly happened what do you think marc is that this is obviously i mean, look at these kinds of things take off and take a life of their own on Social Media, there are serious issue jews in the city of springfield. I cant speak to cats and dogs, but there are serious issues when you take a city of 60,000 and dumped 20,000 illegal haitian immigrants into it. And so i think regardless of focusing on whether its cats and dogs, they have a problem created by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris yeah. Well, i should note they are not illegal immigrants. Forgot. Yeah, they are not they are here under color of law. There. Theyre here and they were under a pardon that gives them temporary status with no vetting its but theres a difference between that and according to our asylum laws, thats why theyre here, right . So look, i think the actual facts of it our outrageous you shouldnt lie. You shouldnt spread things that are false. 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Many College Campuses have become hotspots in the Nations Culture wars cnns Audie Cornish Sat down with the president of the influential university was living to talk about what students are at and maybe should be exposed to as they get ready for the Realworld Backlash to the Campus Protests over Israels War in gaza was a Wakeup Call to Student Activist and School Leaders drawn until a partial spotlight of Election Year politics. And its not over yet every single College President on notice the american taxpayer last subsidize the creation of Terrorists On American Soil near taking the Assignment Podcast On The Road to talk to people wrestling with the politics of the moment im sitting down with michael roth, the president of Wesleyan University in connecticut, to talk about Whites Son universities are breaking down on protesters in backing away from politics. And why he thinks thats a mistake many students and parents over the last couple of months who are wondering what the atmosphere is like at these campuses after this past spring, have you heard from parents via heard from parents and grandparents, uncles and aunts and its great. I mean, they want to know that kids are going to be safe and you know, my line to that, therell be safe enough and not going to be to save. Theyre going to be challenged there. Going to sometimes even be offended, but theyre going to, theyre going to be safe on campus and you know, in the spring, there were protests, but over 90 of them were totally peaceful. No property damage, no violence and that was the case here. You have lawmakers in congress who are saying, look, maybe we should be doing more oversight of these schools, including private institutions which have been called to into hearings. Yeah. Taxing endowments maybe kind of going after federal aid to these schools or their access to federal aid what is that Pressure Feeling like from the schools . Like what are people talking about . I think theres a great deal of fear that the rhetoric of the anti university rhetoric, but you just like we defend free speech for our students. We have to defend the freedom of our faculty and our staff thats been our students to pursue the research where theyre inquiry takes them and so i think if you care about freedom, if you care about not just students, but the ability to think for yourself with other people around you then i think this is the time to defend freedom and democracy. You Harvard University put out a Statement Back in may saying, we will not be offering any more statements of empathy on any topic thats out of our view. You know what i think they did that because they thought trump is going to win and if they make statements defending basic academic Freedom Anger the trump administration, they were pricing in a Trump Victory Neutrality somehow suddenly Everyone Neutrality became the common sense. Now, i dont think schools are corporations should make statements on i think they never did. You want to hear more of this conversation on the Assignment Podcast, were taking the show On The Road to meet the people, shaping the election in the weeks the head find us online or wherever you get your podcast what could a major change in the Nfl Lead to safer Football Games for young children, for your children cnns dr. 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So if you think about where were standing here, youve got players that are lined up in this case, maybe 50, 60 yards away from where we are. Theyre running down the field as fast as they can. And possibly run. So coming down the field at speed and then having collisions obviously is a driver for the nfl says last season concussions occurred four times more often on a kickoff. And any other play its exactly why riverdale Country School in The Bronx wants to change the game i sort of jokingly said to him, like, what i want to change football in america, like we need to figure this out. I want to change football in america. Its pretty audacious yeah i dont know if i actually realize what i was saying at the time John Peasy is the schools Athletic Director yes. So in 2018, we had 18 players left for the last game of our season. We had a bunch of concussions and a bunch of season ending injuries. So we made a decision to cancel our last game. But when that season ended, we had to figure out how we were going to manage the next football season. So together with the concussion legacy foundation, they proposed something pretty radical getting rid of the sport whats most iconic play no more kickoffs, no more returns the beginning of their games now look like this play just starts at the 35 Yard Line and so far busy says theyve seen a 33 decrease in concussions across the league. And importantly, in 18 increase in participation parents certainly liked the idea and it turns out, so do the players, like Team Captain Tristin cornell. Ive talked to people when i told them that my school doesnt do kickoffs they theyre like, oh my gosh, thats one of the biggest parts of the game. How can you not do that but then i see all these injuries that happen from kickoffs so the fact that we dont have that probably allows us to keep healthy and play throughout the entire season. Its fascinating approach that what the nfls chief medical officer, dr. Allen sills says the league is not yet ready to give up on the kickoff altogether all options are on the table. I mean, i think that certainly the eliminating the play is one of those options, but i believe there are potentially other solutions. And i think thats our challenge is can we understand whats driving injury and again, preserve the elements of the game because people love the athleticism loved the speed, they love the Skill Level that you see out there so this year in the nfl, youre going to see a very different sort of kickoff. What theyre calling a dynamic kickoff. Now again previously as soon as the ball was kicked, all 11 members of the Kicking Team would start sprinting down the field to try and tackle the Receiving Team. Lots of speed, lots of space this season. Only the kicker is back here while the opposing teams are lined up. All the way over here, separated by just five yards. And none of those players can move until the ball has been caught by the Receiving Team or it hits the ground. It reduces the speed and the space of the play its what Competition Committee Cochairman rich mckay says is one of the biggest Rule Changes in 30 years but the problem is, is were trying to not just make this game better next year, were trying to keep the game going for 10203040. Thats what our legacy is supposed to be. And so youve got to look at Health And Safety and make sure that the numbers when they tell you something, you do Something Dr. Sanjay gupta, cnn, The Bronx, New York justin, a judge in georgia, has just thrown out some charges and the case there involving Donald Trump, the Breaking News up next safe, we build advanced Security Sensors and cameras for your whole home, powered by 24 7 professional monitoring and fast protect technology exclusively from simply safe for pastor police response. 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A judge has thrown out three charges and the Georgia Election Subversion case, including two charges against former president Donald Trump Judge Scott Mcafee throughout count of filing false documents, some were related to the Trump Campaign efforts to put forward a slate of fake gop electors in georgia. A Trump Lawyer is calling this ruling a victory and before we go hold your Breath Moment in Outer Space today, during the first ever spacewalk by a commercial civilian crew, the entire Polaris Dawn Crew was exposed to the vacuum of space as two of its members exited the capsule four combined 20 minutes. But a crew celebrated their success by sharing this selfie right here and a photo of the earth with a message, we are so grateful for all of the support. Please enjoy to recent photos from our mission and stay tuned for our next message and in just a moment, former president Donald Trump is scheduled to take the stage in arizona. 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