Prefers Brittany Mahomes anyway. Okay. Well, now her husband, Star Quarterback Patrick mahomes has a Response Tonight on Laura Coates live well, the shoe appears to now be on the other foot. It is Donald Trump who is now facing the barrage of bad press after his Debate Performance the man who once boasted about knocking Joe Biden out of the race, seemed like he wished it was still Joe Biden next to him Last Night. But of course it wasnt harris even reminded him of that mid debate. And now she wants to remind him of that again her campaign wants round to Donald Trump hes not so sure looking at it but, you know, when you when you dont really necessarily have to do in a second time. So well say, are we going to do a rematch . I just dont know. I would do nbc. I do fox too. I do fox too. But right now we have to determine whether or not we even want to do. We had a Great Night Last night it was allies as though they dont agree. They dont think he had the great night. He speaks. Ive in fact, several people around trump are telling cnn that they were totally once stunned and his failure to push back against harris. Now, even if you have the debate on mute the body language, while that toll quite a story, didnt it . Harris replacing her Hand Or Chin at one point appearing in disbelief and utterly bemused by the entire thing. And it when it was harris talking while trump his own language of his body, did the talking like he was fuming at times, all that was missing was a little bit of steam coming he added his ears. Now the 67 Million people who watched Last Night not only saw the splitscreen, but more importantly, they heard it to and were biden has juggled to make the case. Harris seemed to excel and those direct areas. Just remember what biden was lag against trump in that debate. Heres just one example. On immigration and continue to move until we get to total ban the total initiative relative to what we can do with more Border Patrol and more Asylum OfficersPresident Trump, i really dont know what he said at The End of that sentence, would i dont think he knows what he said either. On effectively the same question. Harris, use her time as an opportunity to say this im going to actually do something really unusual and im going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trumps rallies because its a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional character theres like Hannibal Lecter he will talk about windmills cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of Exhaustion And Boredom well, that set trump off or it into a kind of Downward Spiral that have Hammering Harris for not explaining her Policy Changes or the Administrations Handling of immigration issues or the economy he delivered a performance that had republican sounding a lot like democrats did after the first debate, Senator Lindsey Graham reportedly describing it as they quote, disaster. Joining me now, white House Correspondent for politico, eli stokols, republican lawyer and political strategist. Im heck, cook and democratic strategist, chuck rocha. So glad all of you are here, everyone was burning the midnight oil, thinking about the debate, watching the debate, it was highly anticipated it was contentious at a lot of different moments thats in time. The audience of the electorate, they wanted to hear a substance. We also wanted to see what their temperaments were going to be like. Chuck on this. I mean, Kamala Harris she baited him a number of times, whether it was on issues of not just crowd size, but Boredom And Irritation are exhaustion. I mean, she was really trying to make george you got under his skin and yet he fell for it time and time again. What do you think he did . Because thats who he is. And for those of us whove actually done Debate Prep in a president ial race, it was oneonone. I was homeless, not elect to do my debate by myself because i get a little animated that Wont Shock a lot of folks that are watching this right now. But ive been in the room. You want to take the first 45 seconds and say what you want to say, no matter what the question is. And in this instance, she saved the last 40 seconds to bait him in when he could have responded with something would be like no, no, no, no. Shes not telling the truth. What about this on the border are what about this on abortion or what about instead, she made it him every time at the End Notice at The End of what our every one of her responses there was a little nugget achieves that we just laid on the floor to see if he was scurry over there and grab it up. And every time he ran right over there, well, let me play some of those examples of those little Cheese Nuggets listen his former Secretary Of Defense has said the nation, the republic would never survive. Another trump term. You take a guy like esper, he was no good. I fired him. World leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. Let me just say about World Leaders viktor orban, what are the most respected . Good man they call him a strong man. Hes a sees a tough person. People start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion in boredom, people dont leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics now, there were instances when he did talk about her policies and did go back on track with what im sure he was prepped with, but he also was baited and he fell for it a number of times when you were watching this, what was your reaction to the fact that he did it consistently . Laura, theres No Doubt that Kamala Harris baited President Trump. But what was shocking to me . Was what the abc moderators did. They continue to ask Kamala Harris questions, but she didnt answer a single question. The most important question is, were you better off than you were four years ago . Kamala harris didnt answer that. She talked about being from the middleclass and went into her story. What we want today as voters, what you and i want millions of americans watching as her policies and her changes and she refused to address the american people and, you know, The Biggest Loser was wasnt Kamala Harris, wasnt President Trump. Its the american people that are dying today to pay their grocery, their gas, their utility, the flipflop that Kamala Harris has done and believe me, i dont call it a flipflop. Many people in the media do. I call well, it straight lives because she cant tell us what changed and dont Tell Me three years, 1,300 days as the Vice PresidentTell Me Why you want to frack and pennsylvania. Tell me why youre not opening up their jobs in the keystone pipeline. So i think americans today truly lost as they watched that debate. Theres no winter thats the sad part about this. While me bring you in here because when you think about some of the complaints that people have, in criticism, a lot of what she just described, harkens back to the failure to do more interviews to be called in number of issues. And also by The Way, both campaigns have been criticized for not being granular in their detail and making bald assertions or i think The Word that senator j. D. Vance, he used Last Night Platitudes both have been criticized for that. But on the notion of digging in to get that granular detail did they succeed on either side . Well, i dont think that was Kamala Harris strategy. I think she had a strategy and she executed ive talked to a lot of her Team Today and they said theyre thrilled with how things went but she had to do a lot of different things and they believe that she did them shared interests produce herself to people. She literally did that to begin, but she did it in broad strokes. Its true. I mean, she started the debate talking about her economic plan and she ticked off specific things she wants to do. Did she answer for the biden economic record . Know she did not she didnt talk about inflation numbers, didnt do that, but she did lay out a couple of things she wants to do related to building more housing helping small business owners, extending the child tax credit. That was how she started the debate. She didnt speak in big sweeping terms. She started actually with a Bullet Point of her economic policy. It was her policy though. It wasnt the bidenharris policies. Whats she wants to do in the next four years . And i think it was very important to her to sort of embody this Change Mantra to be the Change Candidate on the stage. Thats tricky to do when youre the incumbent Vice President. But The Way she was able to do that was to focus so much attention on former President Trump, reminding people what he was like, reminding people how easily he gets knocked off course and at The End of the day, she could present herself in broad strokes as the normal won. The tough one. I mean, she she laid it to him pretty good she was the tough one. The normal one, and i think she can build on that over the next two months that she goes out on the trail. Well, why even opining here about what we think and voters would want more. I mean, there was even a Focus Group or a number of voters who were asked about what they thought of the debate and what they want going forward. Were talking about what they also wonder the how, how are you going to do it . In fact, several undecided voters actually were telling cnns John King they wanted to hear more Policy Specifics from harris, one voter saying Kamala Harris harris says she wants to lift up the middleclass, but how another voter saying there wasnt enough substance on how to continue moving forward. And of course, the Harris Campaign Check is now pushing for another debate but i have to say the Debate Format is not necessarily the ideal forum to go into that specific detail. I mean, the Word Debate itself as opposed to lecture, tells you everything you want to know. Is it debate the best vehicle or is it Something Else67 Million people watched them. How much that would cost a few balls that owns cnn, a lot of money you get a chance to do what you want to do. I dont care what you asked me in a debate. I know what im going but say im going to drive the message to e last point she stood up to him Last Night, which was the biggest thing if president ial elections were about policy briefings, Donald Trump, would have never gotten elected in 2016. He got elected because people wanted something different. Guess what . Joe biden didnt have a big Policy Book either. He got elected because he wasnt Donald Trump, the american people taken from them political consultant, they want somebody they trust and they like, sure, we could talk about policy with congressional races and senate races. But at The End of the day, they want somebody else to stand up to him, run and chase them around the podium and make him shake their hand and then take him own Toe To toe, and then theyll make their decisions at 8 00 about the deep details. Its the exception, not the rule on these undecided voter trust. I want you to weigh in here as well. Trump and his allies are upset about the fact checking in this. And there were a lot of fact checking about statements that were made. And i think according to cnns count, trump said at least 33 different lies including one that has thrust to community now into the spotlight in the middle of a very ugly political scene. Take a listen a lot of towns dont want to talk about it because they are so embarrassed by it. In springfield. Theyre eating the dogs, the people that came in, theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating theyre eating the pets of the people that live there and this is whats happening in our country. And its the Shame Heck many he bill looked at the Vice President space and it encapsulated how they felt about a the topic be the manner in which this trope is being described are in any way conveyed. Are you concerned about this particular aspect of it when an Immigration Debate or Immigration Policy . Its different distinctions could be flushed out by harris, can be fleshed out by trump, but this is the tactic why laura, im a legal immigrant, born in india. I always say made in america, and ill tell you, i live 45 minutes from springfield and im really sad to say it took a discussion about cats on a Debate Stage to truly highlight whats happening across our country today, we have over 11 Million illegal immigrants, but lets just go down to springfield 45 minutes from where i live today. It is a town with less than 50,000 people. Let me tell you, 20,000 haitians who have been giving temporary, permanent status as an attorney tps should theyve never been granted to haitian immigrants today because we dont have the infrastructure and we dont have the capabilities. We are being overrun not only at our southern border, but now people are being flown into our country. What we should have done is waited and gone through an asylum process. Do you know how many people are waiting in that line . I millions of people that have applied for asylum. Ive worked on genital mutilation cases. Those are the people that i want to save, not people that are saying and ive talked to people ive gone to the border the same number of times. Kamala harris has and you know what the haitian immigrants Tell Me. I say, why are you coming here . They say asylum as to Tell Me what that means to you religious persecution. What do you running from . We want the american dream by god. So to why . And thats what President Trump believes then. But we need to do it legally. This small town doesnt have the infrastructure. The hospital, the police, and now weve created a crisis because these individuals cannot speak english so we have a village very uncomfortable situation and we need to embrace immigrants, people embraced me, but its about a assimilation today and were lacking that. In addition to the illegal immigration crisis, well, a couple of things but you seem to be conflating a number of things. You began by talking about you being illegal immigrant. You described tsp and tps as being part of the same phenomenon of it but then assimilation being discussed on at chuck, when you hear about the issues related to immigration The Way in which hes articulated her position frankly, could have been articulated by those who take issue with the Immigration Policies by democrats. Instead, it was a discussion about the Boogeyman And Otherism and somebody he purportedly eating pets, which by The Way, there is no actual evidence of that happening, but it creates a Fear Mongering and the other otherism and seemed to conflate who ought to be here and who shouldnt be here by The Way. You know this, theres no official language in america we should have a debate if we want to have a debate about our failed immigration system, my Familys Family of immigrants, you know, on the largest immigrant owned political consult from the country, my Business Partners that tps holders, she graduated from High School in california. She graduated from college and shed been working for me for eight years still under tps because she is from El Salvador what we have done eagle by The Way i just shortly, legal right. And she is up, people are come under Tps Status who are not legal. So theres two different branches here. Some do get legal status some come here illegally and then get to the piano is we should have this debate about the system. The system is broken. There was a bill through congress by republican senator that was given folks tough on the border, making sure we can start fix youre seeing the system, but because political parties have used this as a political football is left real people in limbo. But Last Night, this is the point. We didnt have this debate. We were talking about eating cats and dogs and black immigrants in a small rural town, which is dangerous by The Way, when you say that the 67 Million people on tv, because that will trigger crazy people to go do what they did in El Paso so and take a gun to a walmart. We have more time. This cannot be resolved and ill bring you back in the conversation of course, as well. The issue of immigration i think is one that needs to be tackled and disgust but it seems very counterintuitive to insert the oddities into the conversation that could otherwise be substantive standby. Everyone breaking news, a Flash Flood Emergency in New Orleans tonight, the storm that Hit Louisiana as a category two hurricane. Now downgraded to a tropical storm. Just moments ago. But there are still evacuations across the coastline and multiple parishes in the state of Power Outages topping more then 50 of customers. I want to bring in Cnns Michael yoshida, who is in New Orleans as we speak, michael, please stay safe as you continue to bring us the news. What is it like where you are right now . Laura . Yeah, were right here in the heart of New Orleans, right by jackson square, who, for those who are familiar with it, very touristy historical spot. You can see the range for the most part led up, but we still have these strong Wind Gusts you talked about those Power Outages. You can see we have power here in the french quarter, but those outages starting to rise throughout the city, across the state, last check, we had more than 240,000 outages and looking across the city throughout the evening, i want to show you this. Weve seen the businesses that decided to leave the slides up, the gwinns down a little right now but they really been battered by this way. You could see some of the cables still hanging down as a result of those strong gusts weve seen throughout the evening. Of course, it wasnt just the wind causing issues weve also seen that steady rainfall officials were warning about that throughout the last few days, about how matter how good of a Drain System you have, you get so much amount of rain in such a short time, youre going to have those flooding concerns that emergency you talked about here in the new Orleans Area . Just a short time, the police its department again, warning people to stay home. We dont want you out on those roads. 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Also now the question is, how is The Endorsement going to impact and actually influence the campaign . While The One And Only cnns Harry Enten is at the Magic Wall for me, harry, how you doing . Laura, it is so lovely to be back with you and even more lovely to be talking about one of my favorite persons in the entire world, Taylor Swift, of course, last evening she endorsed Kamala Harris for president and urged her own fans to go out and registered to vote so the question is, will this have any impact . I think it might alright, so lets talk about registrations. First. You know, in her Instagram Post Taylor swift posted a link in there urging her fans to go out and registered to vote. How many folks actually clicked on that link, get this nearly 300 340,000. That was just as of 2pm today, clare i found that link that took them to vote. Gov. Now, im not so surprised that so many people clicked up on that particular link because the fact of the matter is in the past, Taylor Swift has actually shown that she can move Voter Registrations. Look back at 20 23 when she posted on instagram in urged her fans to go out there and registered to vote in 2023 on national Voter Registration DayVoter Registrations were up 23 versus 2022. So swift does have an impact in terms of Voter Registration, but Voter Registration is one thing. How about convincing those in the electorate who are already registered to vote, to vote for a different candidate. Well if theres one. Person who can move folks, its Taylor Swift. Look at the net Favorability Ratings. Donald trump underwater at minus six points, Kamala Harris write about an even at minus one point. But Taylor Swift blosum all away with a net Favorability Rating of plush 22 points. My goodness. Gracious. Shes more popular than pretty much any politics and out there. Now, one little last nugget for you Donald Trump says that Taylor Swift will probably pay a price for her political endorsement of Kamala Harris. But has she paid a price for her pass political endorsements . Nat in 2018 and 2020, she endorsed democrats for office, including Joe Biden in 2020 funny and then last year gets what for the first time she made the forbes billionaire list. So it hasnt heard or Bottom Line so far. And the Bottom Line when it comes to you, Laura Coatess, you beautiful oh, i like that Bottom Line. Im going to put that on a loop in my home. Thank you so much, harry. So good to see you. My friend well, just moments ago, Taylor Swift saying this at the Mtv Vmas can if you are over 18, please register to vote for Something Else my, panel is back with me now. I mean, you heard Harry Enten more than 300,000 people went to vote. Gov today to register are no actually fall the thread. They really do it or not. But theyre going there. They had that in mind. Does it speak to you the power of this endorsement in particular . And do you see a lot of weight . Hein her being the one in particular to do it. Look, i dont put a lot of weight behind Taylor Swift and i will tell you, i love Taylor Swifts music. I will continue going to her concerts, but in terms of celebrities moving the needle today, its just like the joy campaign. Theyre not paying our grocery bills, theyre not paying our gas, theyre not paying our utilities. And today for celebrities do endorsements when americans are hurting the most, its not going to move the needle. I do think shes going to motivate people to register to vote, but i do believe theres an opportunity also today for republicans to reach out and say where the party of the american Dream Progress and are you better off than you were four years ago . Many of these young voters, Laura Cannot afford home today, cannot afford even a used car. Were the party of opportunity and i think that this speaks volumes for anybody thats looking for a home and a political party, president , trump has expanded that look at democrats like Rfk Jr. And tulsi gabbard, lots of people are looking at the republican party as the american dream youre smiling while he does matter because we got Taylor Swift and they got rfk and telsey. We when we just freaking win, but they only does she move the needle, does she what id rather have Taylor Swift and not however, ive done Voter Registration my entire life. Ive never seen almost 400,000 people in 24 hours wait until beyonce endorses. Were going to blow the roof off this whole place. Im just saying this is an exciting it doesnt equate to vote, but it does equate back to the momentum that weve been talking about. And i would rather have that trying to talk to young women out there, especially my new wife, who has a very much a swiftie a Moment Air right now i love the Taylor Swift, even though im madison some about her sing it back in the day, im on board, im all in happy wife, happy life of a very smart man, but he did yeah, The Endorsement is one thing, but then people want them to campaign with them that i mean, there is a way to be even more involved. I think if you are a candidate, you want not just The Endorsement, you want something more with a following like that, but you hadnt heard trump today. And before i get there, i mean, you talk about senator j. D. Vance had to say because she signed her endorsement, childless Cat Lady obviously she was going directly at senator j. D. Vance who responded like this we admire Taylor Swifts music, but i dont think most americans, whether they like her music are fans of hers or not, are going to be influenced by a Billionaire Celebrity who i think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests and the problems of those americans by The Way, they loved hearing from elon musk, who i think might fit the various groups and they just said about Taylor Swift j. D. Vance looks like he was grinning like hes winning. But might be dealing with a broken heart i think you did there isnt quite the influence on me too. I will say you know, lets talk about this. This is a completely different election with Kamala Harris on top of the ticket than Joe Biden. Taylor swift might have endorsed Joe Biden, but it wouldnt have felt as sort of genuine as her post Last Night, which had some bite to it, had a little Edge Rejoinder back at j. D. Vance, but the timing of it after this, obviously she knows how to pick your spots. That is true but the thing about Joe Biden had a lot of success with older white voters in Swing StatesKamala Harris, maybe not doing quite as well with some of those voters are they going to be persuaded by Taylor Swift probably not but how do you offset those votes if you get younger people to turn out and you sort of catalyze a real enthusiasm for some, a candidate who embodies change seems like a new thing in an era thats been defined by Donald Trump and Joe Biden, then maybe those 300,000 people whove went to register to vote today, maybe that continues to crest, maybe theres more people may be young people actually turn out for her in a way that they wouldnt for Joe Biden. And maybe that makes up a difference. I would say at The End of the day, the harris people, i mean, theyre selling Friendship Bracelets on the campaign im saying right now, sold out they going to leverage this. This is going to be the difference maker, probably not, but its going to help on the margins absolutely. And is this election going to be decided on the margins you talk to most people, they will say, well, maybe going to still be friends. Ive known as a whole thing because trump actually mentioned his reaction and obviously we know theres a friendship, theres a sweet sharing of some type between obviously the Quarterback Patrick mahomes and his Wife And Taylor and her boyfriend, travis, kelce. But listen to what trump had to say about the fact that he wasnt getting The Endorsement i actually like mrs. Mahomes much better if you want to know the truth shes shes a big Trump Fan i was not a Taylor Swift fan okay. And then while pat mahomes was then asked to bad, that because we said ive always said i dont want i dont want my place and my platform to be used to endorse a candidate or do whatever. Each either way, i think in my places to inform people to get registered to vote is to inform people to do their own research and then make their best decision for them and their family. Which by The Way, which he said in her actual endorsement is this watered down version now of the big endorsement in the ten Foot Pole from people. Can we please bring this back to my high School Football Career and let people know. Yes. Go ahead. Lockdown about playing football. Is that i play football against patrick mahomes, Daddy And East texas. All know that is that his name is pat mahomes. He played it landale High School. I played it browns bro would played against each other. I remember you pat anyway it says a lot for him to be doing that. He comes from a long line of goodolboys in East Texas like me, and i think you want put him between him and his wife talking about our wives want to go i think he did the right thing. Everybody going im just going play some football, but i think he said something important there he said people should do their research. And i think now more than ever Medias Job was always to deliver the news. And i think that theyve put a thumb on the scale. So its really important for people to do their research and we keep talking about being a Change AgentNew York and santa just came out with a poll, 92 of people want to Change Agent and guess what . Six out of ten voters are still saying President Trump is that Change Agent on the economy . And you dont have to hear it from me. Just go look at your bank accounts. Go look at your 401k, go look at your grocery bills. When you are trying to pay for eggs that were 0. 99. And now theyre over to 50. Your gas bill, 1. 87. Now youre paying over 5 in some of these Swing States you know that theres a clear difference. And the easiest question is, are you better off than you were four years ago . This isnt a Personality Contest heard there leaving your rallies early. Saying that, wow, youre not going to bail me on that one, chuck, im way too smart thing here. Row that says it all about who was baited Last Night i took a lot of bait, but at The End of the day, he still delivered policy and about the american dream and immigration and the economy and talking about Taylor Swift. Well, you know what, theres a lot more that both candidates need to do in the next 55 days. Obviously, this is one data point, but then the work has to be done. And i think the battle is still a pill for both because electorate wants to lean in. Thank you so much, everyone new tonight, a major change coming for next years January 6Election Certification. The extraordinary measure that will be taken as Donald Trump continues to cast doubt on the vote, michigans top Election Official who is now at risk of prosecution. 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We Vigor Yes or no if we do everything we can and just like every other state to remove this person beyond your voter rolls, know and thats why we removed them once a legal person who remains country illegally vote in any election no so really kind of tested interrogating at that point when theyre asking the questions they want to hear themselves. Joining me now, Michigan Secretary of state, jocelyn benson, Madam Secretary. Thank you so much for being with me this evening. Were talking about that Countdown Clock and of course, whos on the top of the ticket and who might win. But Democracy Hasnt Guarantee you vote for the winner. It allows access and the opportunity to actually have a chance to participate. And i wonder what kind of threats you and Election Officials are facing at a time like this . Well, thanks for having me and it is really a moment of intense, hyper vigilance as we brace ourselves for the packed of the false rhetoric and the vitriol that really has become omnipresent in our systems. And were professionals were bipartisan. We love our jobs. We just want everyone to vote and account every valid vote. Thats what we show up every day in order to make real for everyone to be constantly impacted by this barrage of threats that come as a result of these lies from a former president and whose unable to accept that he lost an election is really demoralizing. But at the same time doesnt change our commitment and our resolve to just do our jobs with integrity and to stand up against anyone whos going to try and threaten us and stand firm. We wont back down. Were going to do our jobs and were going to make sure our results are accurate. It must lets be a little bit of attrition at the very least for people who are thinking themselves im just trying to have a public service. My civic duty. I want to help we know how valuable Election Officials and full workers can be and yet, you look at the Costbenefit Analysis of safety as one of the costs that must be very, very demotivating people to continue in the work. Absolutely. It is. And we have seen a lot of turnover in our profession, particularly in arizona and nevada, where you see a lot of new Election Workers coming to replace vacancies. But the Bottom Line is, is that the same time weve seen that attrition . Weve also seen an enormous number of american people on both sides of the Aisle Step up and step into the breach in this moment. And thats what im really proud to stand arm in arm with in this moment that the idea that we as professionals can work to ensure the basics of Democracy Work for everyone. We would see our responsibility is paramount because in this moment, if we shirk that responsibility than the entire american promise of democracy he falls apart. We embrace the moment and our responsibility and even become emboldened as a result of all this Spotlight And Scrutiny on our work wed become more transparent and dedicated than ever before. And as a result, i think americans will see our elections are even more secure and accurate and accessible and fair in this election than in any other Madam Secretary youve got the foreign president doubling down on his lies about winning the election. He did not. But also the threats to prosecute who he thinks might be complicit in this delusional lie about our elections, not having any integrity. How do you respond . Again, really sad frankly, and disheartening and its not easy to show up to work every day knowing that because people here and maybe even believe these lies, these meritless threats about our integrity that they will then try my to exact some sort of revenge on the former President S behalf. I started my career investigating extremist organizations. We know theres a direct line to that hateful rhetoric to violence oftentimes, and of course, we saw unfold at our capitol on January 6. And so we are worried that all of this vitriol, all of this noise will translate into someone getting hurt or worse. Thats but were on alert for what were also preparing for it. Weve been partnering with Law Enforcement and first responders. Weve strengthened our laws to make it a crime to threaten an Election Official in michigan. And so a number of things were doing make us more prepared to respond to these threats. But its still just an american at The End of the day that these professionals who simply just want to protect democracy were afraid to go grocery shopping, are afraid to take our kid to school because we dont know what might be lurking behind the bushes because someone has heard a lie about our work and wants to respond to it. Lets talk about who is actually on the ballot as well. Because obviously voters are going to see who theyd like to vote for one person who is, who wants his name removed from Michigans Ballot is Rfk Jr. He is now a trump supporter, having dropped out of the race. Your office refused to remove him from that ballot. The Michigan Supreme Court said that his name will in fact remain is that the right ruling . And why are you refusing to take him off . Well, the Bottom Line is the law is very clear. I actually sympathize with the argument that if you withdraw, you should be able to with with her name. But Michigan Law actually says explicitly, you cannot withdraw once youve accepted a minor Partys Nomination for the presidency. And the reason that is, is to protect against its fraud as someones coming in and trying to stymie a minor Minor Party or third Party Effort by accepting the nomination and then as soon as its done withdrawing and having their name taken off, and that means then that party, the Third Party will have anyone on the ballot. So its in our laws protect against fraud to protect 30 parties and my job is simply to call the Ball Wilson strikes with a referees and thats what we did here. And thats why his name rules will be on the ballot. Cornell west can also see on the ballot after your office argued he was ineligible because of paperwork issues, what were the reasons he was ineligible and has had that comes right. Decision on that there was an Affidavit Issue where the signature and then notarization was false and problematic and didnt comply with our laws. However, the court found that because enough signatures were submitted, that the Affidavit Wasnt necessary, and that was something we are grateful for. Thats thats how the process works. The courts can weigh in and provide that clarification and then well comply with that and he will be on the Ballot Maps like a tray, your office though, has been accused as frankly other secretaries have been when following the laws that might be unknown to different voters that you have your thumb on the scale and youre trying to decide who they get to vote for as opposed to who ought to be on the ballot according to your law is how do you respond to fears that your office and Others Part putting their thumb on the scale . Well, its certainly i understand. I mean, thats the result of a lot of the allegations, the false rhetoric and the fears that a lot of people have because of what politicians have been saying about our work for many years now but i would just encourage everyone to look at the facts and the evidence and the fact that in michigan and in many other states or elections are transparent all right, we have hundreds of audits after elections that reaffirmed the results of the election. My commitment remains the same. Im very proud that we see more people voting in michigan than ever before on both sides of the aisle thats really why i signed up to do this job to make sure no matter who someone votes for, how they choose to cast their ballot, that their vote can count and they can have confidence in their voice the process. And im proud that the Work Weve done in michigan and the facts and the evidence, lay that out clearly, and i think youll see that among the professional bipartisan Election Workers and all the battleground states, well, i wish you a heck of a vacation after the election season. Thank you so much, Madam Secretary, for joining me this evening. Thanks for having me well Kamala Harris is far and away being dubbed last Nights Debate winner. But what does it mean for fans of thing in november, historian Doris Kearns Goodwin is here to give us some context. Next restaurant bread, still policies. Know Cheddar Cheddar Bay 2024 is here to clean up the crumb come in now for a chance to win four years of free Red Lobster because one bite can unite all parties, at least for didnt work play link relief. Work, play, blank really. The only three and one extended release believe formula for dry eyes im danny. 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Hes trying to claim that he won the debate thats despite the overwhelming consensus, Haley Harris as the victor and that said we have seen this play out before. Try well, 2016 hillary won the Debate And Point she was so are actually kill it. And wellprepared. It seemed like she won. I think clinton clearly one, but i she won on points. She was the more comfortable, the more prepared and the more upbeat even she warned that debate well, as we know, Hillary Clinton did not win in 2016, even though she was largely seen as the winner of all three of her debates against trump. So how should we put last Nights Debate in the context of history and what could it possibly mean for this november . Well, who better to ask than president ial historian doris for his kearns goodwin, she is the author of an unfinished love story, a personal history of the 1960s, and her newest book the Leadership Journey, how four kids became president. And you know what its out today and its right here in my hands as well, doors. Its wonderful. Ill get to to in just a moment, but i have to ask you about the context here of what we saw Last Night in 2016. Many saw Hillary Clinton as the clear debate victor. She went on to though lose the election to Donald Trump. How much it debate wins, translate to election wins well i can give you another precedent that i think is a story to tell, which is that in 1960, it was absolutely clear that kennedy Beat Nixon in that first debate. He looked better. Nixon was sweating, nixons answers were not as clear as kennedys. Kennedy had practiced a lot more than nixon had and after it was over, my husband was one of the three people that prepared kennedy for that debate. They were in the plane on The Way back. Kennedys relaxing, having Tomato Soup and beer. His favorite relaxation and going over very cooly, how he could have done better with sorenson. His main speech writer, and my husband was young and he blurted out, know he won, we won the whole thing, we won the election, and kennedy just looked over and smiled with more of a veterans eye. And he said, weve got to get some sleep. We have a long way to go. And what did happen however, was that it did increase Morale And Momentum for kennedy. And he did go ahead at that point. But then a little bit later, eisenhower or finally Campaign Nixon finally broke down an asterisk help the president who was so popular. And then kennedys polls started going down again, be finally did squeak out a victory, but so many things can happen between the debate and the election. But what is happening i think is that it gives you a feeling of wind behind your back if youre the one who was seen to win. So when you go out but on the campaign trail, youre going to feel better rather than feeling like i didnt do as well as i hoped i would have its an important point and contexts. Think about the work still to be done and we are in a different era of debates. I mean, you have 2016, you saw a Town Hall where an style were trump followed clinton around the stage. Now seeing what you did microphones and candidates at their podiums. They have no audience as well. What did you make of the temperament that was on onstage Last Night, which is every bit as important for voters as the substance i actually think its the most important thing that what youre really looking at when youre voting for a candidate is who has the temperament to govern . Well, and you do express it to some extent The Way you talk in a debate. Temperament means do you have humility. Suppose you could acknowledge an era in the middle of the debate. They never do that. And yet thats the one thing that people like hearing when John Kennedy admitted that he had screwed up in the bay of pigs, his Approval Rating went to 83 . So i was wondering Last Night when they were asked about afghanistan are asked about January 6, they could have had regrets even if they didnt change their mind about the decisions. But somehow candidates feel they shouldnt do that that it makes them look weak. I think its just the opposite. Youre looking for whether they have a sense of humor, whether they can laugh at themselves. You are looking how they tell the truth and how much theyre really accessible when theyre talking to people. Do people feel there on your side, youre on their side all those things are part of the character of the person. And thats really the most important thing we need to know about it. A person when theyre going to be President Of The United States perfect segue into your book, the Leadership Journey. How four kids became president. Its really wonderful to read and you tell the stories of these four kids, Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, franklin delano roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, before they were these larger than Life Figures . Its written for younger kids, but i think it goes into as youre talking about even today, the composition of a person, how they become who they are. Why dont you feel the need to write this . Well, it just made me feel so heartbreaking when i hear about history being diminished in schools right now, not being taught as much, and kids not knowing what you would hope they would know about civics. So i thought what we could do is if you chose to, write about stories about my for President S, the ones i lived with the most, Abraham Lincoln and the two roosevelts. And Lyndon Johnson when they were young, then young people can see them making mistakes acknowledging those mistakes, growing as leaders. You can see the curiositys they had when they were young and maybe theres some that you are similar to for example, Teddy Roosevelt loved birds even when he was young and he becomes the great conservation president. Franklin roosevelt loved stamps and he maps and he becomes president and that becomes so important in World War ii. You see whether they had empathy when they were young. Lincoln have probably had it from birth. He carried a bird that had fallen out of its nest into a nest because he couldnt bear to think of the bird being hurt. There was a friend of his who was making fun of stuttering person and he went and defended the person and they started stopped bullying him as a result, you see characteristics and the young people that need to be developed an expanded. And maybe by not seeing these President S as icons, not seeing that among mount rushmore, but seeing them as they can identify which which qualities do they have, which qualities can i develop . One of my favorite stories is george Bushs Mother one time when he came home said, how did you do in the game . He said i made three goals and she said, yes, dear. But did the team when that was more important so powerful to think about, especially he has a mother like myself, the lessons i can impart on my kids. Thank you for yet another moment to have that teachable moment with a child. And of course, well all young at heart to read it. Doris kearns goodwin. Thank you so much. Thank you. Laura. The book again is called the Leadership Journey hey, thank you all for watching Anderson Cooper 360 is next im ali, man down, the newest ambassadors dancers. Plenty story how i became an ambassador. I went to the store and i lied and said i wasnt ambassador. Do i get it . This count, the owner called me and said, would you like to be an ambassador for sketchers . And i said, yes price, skechers slipins second time its three. To 55 i know. Is this what hes doing now theres your host. 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