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Republicans, in one key Battleground State are pushing forward with a rather controversial Rule Change fueled by trumps disproved, debunked election lies about the 2020 election. And leading this hour, Vice President Kamala Harris may have won the debate, but she could, could still well lose the election today. The Harris Campaign says, despite any momentum from Last Nights performance, they still consider this a 50, 50 race, a Coin Flip than with just 55 days to go so the Harris Campaign says theyre not taking their feet off the gas. Meanwhile, former President Donald Trump is claiming he had the best debate of his life. Lets bring in cnns kristen holmes, who covers the Trump Campaign and Priscilla Alvarez who covers the Harris Campaign. Kristen to you first on this day after the debate, trump is claiming victory, although many in the republican party, you have a much more realistic assessment of what happened last time thats right jake, of course is going to depend on what republican us, some of Donald Trumps most ardent supporters still say that he won the debate. They blame the moderators, the set saying pretty much anything, but the former president. But when you talk to some of his own allies within the republican party, many of them are disappointed in his performance. A lot of the people that i spoke to leading up to the debate, who are talking to Donald Trump on a regular basis, had told me that they were encouraging him to stay on the issues that multiple people had warned him that Kamala Harris was going to try try to get under his skin, was going to try to goad him and to stay away from getting angry or from using personal attacks. And obviously as We Saw, that advice really went on heated it by the former president who did take the bait from Camila Harris on multiple occasions, particularly on things that seemed obvious, like his crowd size. So youre talking to these various republicans. They do say they dont think this is going to move the needle in any significant way, but they were disappointed in the fact that he won took the bait to seem to get aid i agree. And three Couldnt Stick to those core issues that they believe are going to help him win in november, namely immigration, the economy, and crime. Jake priscilla Harris Campaign is claiming a cautious victory. Whats their plan from here . Well, ive been talking to aides and allies who were very delighted with what they heard Last Night between the Vice President , the former president but they are also aware that this may not move the needle much so they plan to try to build on tim off of some of those key moments on the Debate Stage that includes on Abortion And Health care. And we might start to get a glimpse of that tomorrow. The Vice President heading to north carolina, a crucial state for the campaign. And one where they have been trying to capitalize on reproductive rights. So that message is one that we expected to hear from her directly tomorrow, and then shell follow on to pennsylvania. But certainly the campaigns messaging over the course of the last several weeks has been that they are the underdogs and even if they are pleased with the Vice President s performance Last Night, that is the Message And Narrative that theyre going to continue on the campaign trail, noting that this is going to be a very close race. Now of course, the Harris Campaign did get welcome news at The End of Last Night, one that aides tell me they certainly didnt expect and that was The Endorsement of taylor swifts. So that gives them a boost going into the next several weeks. But every Aide And Ally i have talked to you as well aware that its going to be closed and that they need to keep momentum going on some of the issues where they think that former President Donald Trump just couldnt articulate a vision on Last Night. And again, the two that come to mind for many is going to be on Abortion And Health care. And even jake young, ukraine interesting. All right. Priscilla alvarez covering the Harris Campaign. Kristen holmes covering the Trump Campaign for us. Thanks to both you with me now to discuss Gretchen Carlson and angela rye. Thanks so much for being here. Good to see you guys stretch a little treat. I dont get to see either of you as much as id like. Where does the race go from here . Well, theres 55 days and it is a sprint. It is not a marathon. I think if Joe Biden had still been in the race, wed be talking about a marathon maybe some ways a drag. And i think every single moment counts from the moment they Kamala Harris left the her after party Last Night from the from the debate that she clearly one she is on back on official duties for 911 commemorations in New York, in pennsylvania, and then back to dc. So shes got a sprint for official duties as well as for campaign duties. Gretchen, you posted on instagram Last Night, quote, i meant Donald Trump The First Time when i was competing for miss america. No, he didnt own it. That was miss usa. And subsequently, i interviewed him many times over the years i met Vice President Kamala Harris for The First Time when she was running for president more recently in 2022, when i was with President Biden as he signed the first bipartisan bill, i championed into law, having to do with ndas, you know, both of them. What did you think Last Night . What do you think happened . Well, i think from a big Picture Point of view that Donald Trump made a lot of mistakes with regard to only placating to his maga base. We all know that independence and undecideds are going to basically decide this election. So that was a mistake in my mind, but for Kamala Harris, look, there was a lot of talk about whether or not she would command the stage whether or not she would have Leadership Skills even about her height. And is a short one myself, i can relate to being underestimated from time to time. She came out on that stage. She reached for his hands. She wanted to shake it, and she introduced herself to him. And at that moment, that is when the power shifted to her, she was exquisitely prepared for this debate. And i think that this is a bigger message for a victory for women. This, you take politics away from this for a moment were not talking today about whether or not Kamala Harris commanded that stage or whether or not she exhibited Leadership Skills were saying she won that debate. And were now may be closer to having a woman actually be the president of the united states. So we need to stop talking about womens height, whether or not they can lead and whether or not a woman can be president , we need to just go back to this debate and see how she performed yeah. I dont understand the Height Thing too. I saw i saw some conservative women and conservative commentators on Social Media Last Night talking about how, i mean, who cares, who cares it has nothing to do with your brain, right . Well, i think what is really very frightening is there still trying to find ways to say where she is deficient instead of looking at all the many deficiencies, the fact that Kamala Harris is bar for Competition Yesterday was very different than Donald Trump say, as it always is, he could get up there and spew lies from what people eat for dinner to what his accomplishments were in the White House, to him firing very bad people. And she has to go up, command the stage, get to know voters who still dont dont have a clear vision of who she is and what her vision is for the country as well as talk about policy prescriptions, no digestible way for the american people to embrace them and understand it. The bar was Sky High and she hurdled it and she did it with the moderators not enforcing the rules against Donald Trump, but enforcing them against her i dont know that. I i dont know anything about bad, but i do think in terms of the moderates, i do think its interesting, jake, you know, you watch the lead here. Lead jumped in just like i did with you. But they turn the mic back but they also they also factcheck that he fact checked him many times. Whatever it is my only point is i think they probably by the rules had to give him more time because of that. But lets just talk about Harris And Trump if we could one of the things that i thought was interesting about the performance is like how often she baited him and how often he took the bait. It was we know this about Donald Trump, right . I mean, we know that thats how you get to him. Now, im sure his adviser said to him, dont dont take the bait. Shes going to mention john mccain, dont take the bait. Look. He could have insulted her much more than he did Last Night, right . I mean, if you watch his rallies, hes insulting her and calling her stupid and shes not smart because shes a woman thats the nice stuff thats the night first up is on social truth, social exactly. But he didnt drop to that level. He didnt look at her. He didnt want to shake her hand and that was very disrespectful. But i think at least on that regard, he stayed somewhat in line and with regard to having more talk time look, if he had been talking about substantial policies, than maybe i would have a problem with the fact have you had five minutes more but i think he just made a Grave Error about really not jumping on any Policy Talk whatsoever. You know, he did. Sorry, jake, once i would say where he also made an error, is he never looked at her and never said her name. Right . He called her. Her. Hershey. And her boss he never referenced Kamala Harris, madam Vice President , Vice President harris harris, camila, nothing. He only said her and she hasnt she dominated him back to my original point, she dominated him Last Night more than anyone else has in a decade yeah. Why didnt that is the biggest thing that will get under his skin. Hillary clinton did, you know she she did a great, did a good job against Donald Trump to and still ended up losing the election. But, but why do you think she that she was able to do such a good job Last Night . She is not as experienced on the Debate Stage as he said, shes a prosecutor. Do you think thats what it is . Yes and as i said before, she was supposedly prepared for this, it was very obvious that and sometimes she was too scripted. I mean, lets just call a Spade A spade there, but i dont think he prepared much at all. In fact, he bragged about the fact that he wasnt going to prepare. And when you go into something like this, i dont care who you are preparation ships. Do you think that she needs to do more to mix it up with Voters Congressman Clyburn was on the show earlier and he said hed love to see youre talking to voters at Town Halls and more talking directly to people, real people, not like me. Im not a real person about about issues that they care about. Do you want to see that as a spotter . Absolutely. Do. And and as a friend and i will say to me, commonly harris is sweet spot or those oneonone conversations. And the small groups. The reason for that if she is not afraid of sitting with a team of rivals, shes not afraid of sitting with people with different points of view, and shes reasonable. She can hear you your perspective, and even figure out how to integrate that into some of her Policy Positions and our platform, ive seen her do it multiple times on Justice Reform talking about abortion, talking about immigration reform. That is where she is remarkably skilled and i think its not just that shes a prosecutor. Shes also a very skilled legislator. I agree with that 100 . However, im not sure i would recommend to her if i were advising her to do another debate because the bar was so high for her Last Night and she excelled that i think she could only do as well or not as well, and trump could only do better. But i agree. I agree. I actually should do it. I think she should absolutely do so i think immediate interviews to give did the policy i think she should do more debates. She should absolutely do more Media Interviews and she should do a lot more roundtable. Shes killing it at the rallies, but people need to see or more, thats Gretchen Carlson, angela ryan. When you got you can have your own show. Great to have you here. Thank you so much. 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And President Biden legitimately won in 2020 now were just two months before the 2024 election and three republicans on the Fivemember State Election board in georgia are pushing ahead with a shall we call it controversial Rule Change. This would allow partisans who serve on local Election Board to conduct a reason theres no Animal Inquiry before certifying election results. Cnn Sara Murray spoke with a Georgia State Election Board member and asked what a quote reasonable inquiry actually means faith in the outcome of an Election Sara Tyndall dissolve the lone democrat on the fivemember Georgia State Election Board kept a low profile for years until the board took a sharp, bright turn. We cant be doing this at the last minute because it creates chaos less than two months before the election, three republicans are pushing through new rules that could jeopardize Election Certification should Vice President harris win the state theyre not taking the advice of attorneys are not taking the advice of Election Administrators who are really critical in this whole calculus and there certainly not listening to anybody who doesnt think that the elections are rigged as this year, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger is no longer on the board, stripped of his membership by the republican led State Legislature after he refused to overturn the 2020 20 president ial election results, just Election Board, its a mess. I would love for him to tell me how were a mess come to the board meeting. Republican Media Personality Janel king joined the board just months ago the amount of times ive been told not to do something because we could possibly be sued i mean if we were doing a drinking game, we will all be drawn one controversial change allows partisans to conduct a quote, reasonable inquiry before certifying votes. If you cant get what you need out of that timeframe, youre breaking the law. Well, why didnt you guys to find reasonable inquiry i mean, this should be disciplined the fine reasonable. I said i thought we thought that most i mean, im not on saying no, no, no im well, i guess im asking is more of a rhetorical question. So i didnt think we would have to write the definition of reasonable within the rule, but if thats the case, will post what the definition of reasonable means. Shes standing by the boards new rules. Theres also a lot of members of the public who are upset and i think would like to see they want to know no more of an explanation yes. And then there are a lot that are in support of what were doing former republican State Senator Rick jeffries also join the board this year. Very no further discussion. All those in favor signify by saying i i appointed by Georgia Lieutenant Governor and 2020 fake Elector Burt jones, jeffries already courting controversy by putting out feelers for a role in a future trump administration. I said if you Cant Figure out who you want to be the Epa Director for the southeast. Id like to have it jeffries told the Guardian Guardian he later told the atlanta journalconstitution, it was never a formal ask. Janice jackson, who spread falsehoods about the 2020 election, was appointed to the board in 2022. By then Georgia Gop Chair David Shafer another Fake Elector she spoke at this maga branded event. Its a relatively young board. Now, im second in seniority and which is shocking because its just been a couple of years and appeared at a rally where trump applauded the newly activists board. There on fire. Theyre doing a great job. Kathy willard, a democrat and former Fulton County Election Board chair, filed an Ethics Complaint against the new Board Members or having a partisan split on every single issue . Election board should be very predictable, plotting not partisan. Again, you can have your difference should be pretty bright right instead, she worries the boards actions could lead to disarray in Certification And Election Worker Training with potentially dramatic consequences. Do you think theyve done enough where they could swing an election . Okay. Sure now, officials in the Georgia Secretary of States Officer of close watching the board very closely to see what theyre doing. They say they still believe that certification will go off without a hitch or at least without a hitch thats going to delay the state certifying the results. But obviously there was a lot of concern about whats going on and the State Election Board is set to meet again later. This month. Were there to consider nearly a dozen additional rules about the upcoming election. Jake, what could go wrong . What could go wrong . Sara murray, thanks so much for that investigative report. Appreciate it coming up one part of last Nights Debate that has not gotten much attention, but really should the comments from Donald Trump that could change the course of two global conflicts. Thats next tv on the premieres sunday, september 22, did nine On Cnn Take Control of your health by boosting your forcefield. The immune system, or a tells you when your temperature is higher than not and if smarter, stronger healthier with the Aura Ring its odd how an instant things can transform out of bounds in a free fall im glad i found stability amidst it all. Go standing the test of time the virus that causes shingles is sleeping did 99 of people over 50 its Lying Dormant, waiting and could reactivate shingles strikes is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. 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What youre fake numbers. Do you believe its in the us Best Interests . For ukraine to win this war . Yes. I think its a us best interest to get this war finished and just get it done. All right, negotiate a deal former President Trump Last Night refusing to say whether he wants ukraine a democracy and an ally to win the war against russia, which is neither mr. Trump also claimed the Vice President Kamala Harris hates israel and made the apocalyptic prediction that the whole Middle East is quote, going to get blown up on quote, under her leadership lets check in with our correspondents in Israel And Ukraine for something of a reality check. Cnns Nic Robertson its an and television Fred Pleitgen In Kyiv. Fred, let me start with you and ukraine trump bragged about his great relationship with putin last 90 also reminded everyone that putin has nukes how is the debate in his remarks and the debate Last Night . How is it playing In Kyiv in the capital of ukraine . Hi there, jake. Well, first of all, the ukrainians really are trying to lay low as far as this Election Campaign is concerned, not to try to look as though theyre taking one or the other side. But one of the things is definitely clear is that remarks like the ones that we just heard from former President Trump are definitely something that have been for a very long time. Concerning to the ukrainians. They obviously fear that if President Trump does try to negotiate some sort of settlement to all of this is essentially that it would amount to a surrender by ukraine and they obviously fear that they would have to give up in The End, some of their territory, which is definitely the opposite of what the ukrainians want. The ukrainians are still saying they want to gain back all well their territory and that they wants to win the war that russia has imposed on them through the invasion. One of the interesting Things Today was Secretary Of State blinken, obviously here on the ground together with the british Foreign Secretary also saying the biden administration wants ukraine to win. But one of the things that the ukrainians are looking for is for the us to ease restrictions. And so those longer distance weapons to allow ukraine to strike deep into russian territory. And there really wasnt very much in the way of commitment from the Secretary Of State on that point. Lets listen in among other things, we discussed longrange fires, but a number of other things as well and as i said at the outset, im going to take that discussion back. To washington to brief the president on what i heard now, one of the reasons of course, why thats so urgent for the ukrainians now, jake is because the us now says that the iranians have now given ballistic missiles to the russians as well. Those are shorter distance ballistic missiles. And one of the things that the ukrainians have said is they want those us atacms, for instance, surface to surface missiles to be able to attack not just airfields inside russia, but possibly also Missile Launch sites as well. But for them, its an extremely important point as the ukrainians right now in a really difficult situation, especially in the east of the country, jake. All right. Nick, did any israeli leader heres reactant, trumps assertion that israel will no one will no longer exist if Camila Harris winds or harris repeating her wish for a Twostate Solution, which so many israeli leaders have ruled out yeah, i dont think it was anything of any surprise to any of the israeli leaders and the debate Last Night certainly, most of them appear to stay out of it and recognize and i know this from speaking a bit on background, i suppose with ministers here. This is not something theyre going to get involved in. They are going to stay away from the us election. This is something that they believe is the domain of the us public and theyll deal with whichever leadership there is. No, i dont think theres any doubt here that prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would rather see Donald Trump in the White House come next year that said yair lapid, leading Opposition Figure did comment dead say that he was heartened to hear both to both parties in the debate speaking strongly about israel when he was reminded and a Radio Interview that the Kamala Harris and spoken about the Twostate Solution his answer to that was, well, thats not anywhere near. I dont see that in the next couple of years, but most most commentators here have really leaders, at least have stayed out of it. And Kamala Harriss assertion that there would be a Twostate Solution that she would support israel, that she would give all the weapons to israel, that it needs to protect itself all lines clearly intended to undermine what President Trump was saying that she would destroy israel within a couple of years people are watching this carefully because theres a lot riding on the outcome, but not getting involved in it, jake. All right. Nic robertson in tel aviv, Fred Pleitgen In Kyiv. Thanks to both of you. Appreciate it as we mark 23 years the since the horrific terrorist attacks of september 11, 2001, many victims, Family Members are still fighting for answers and for justice. And one of them will join us. Next. Straight things i can change it i changed. And why im not changed Sexual Orientation of not change in political party okay how would what we got here . Okay car saturday, October 5th on Cnn Work Play Link Relief Work lay blank really. 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Vice president harris and President Biden and later former President Trump also traveled to shanksville, pennsylvania where one of the four hijacked airplanes crashed after passengers who heroically forded the attempt by alqaeda terrorists to fly that plane to washington, dc to wreak havoc. Joining us now is brett eagleson. He is the president of the group 911 justices, Father Bruce was killed in the World Trade Center on september 11, 2000 one brett was 15yearsold at the time. Brad, first of all, how are you doing . How are you holding up on what must be an awful anniversary for you every year . Its always tough this time a year as soon as the leaves are, as soon as the air starts to get a little crisp and kids go back to school, it always brings back memories, but i think more than anything we as a Community Stand in front of America Today and in front of these two candidates. Absolutely incensed like no longer are we here wanting to talk about, are theyre all important, but were not going to come on Camera And Cry and por our hearts on anymore. Weve done that for 23 years were angry. We want answers and we want closure. And just on your lead and you were talking about how two candidates for the top office of this land gathered in shanksville, pennsylvania well, thats where heroes on Flight 93 took down that aircraft before it destroyed the legislative branch of our government. That bill, that plane was intended to hit the united States Capitol building those heroes in our community died, saving that branch of government. So we as Family Members deserve better, we gave our lives that day the least we can do is to have leaders of this country Put Americans first and bring us that closure that we so desperately want. So the New York times is reporting that this weak of all weeks, this week, the Pga Tour and the saudi public Investment Fund officials our in New York in manhattan, to continue talking about forming an alliance between the Pga Tour and Liv Golf, which was founded by the saudis, who still continue to stonewall about saudi Government Involvement in 911. Now sources told the times that the timing of this these meetings was coincidentally. Whats your response . Its completely Tone Deaf it is outlandish. Its insulting. Look at one point in time, the Pga Tour were Brothers In Arms with us. They were standing Lockstep Fighting the battle about Saudi Arabia doing 911 about all these other atrocities. Womens rights, humans, right . Youre all these different issues that Saudi Arabia is infamous for. The pga was standing sidebyside with us. And then it took him a couple of billion dollars and they caved like a cheap suit of all days they pick this day the day that we mourn the death of 3,000 americans to be blocks away as we speak right now, theyre likely locked in arms smoking cigars while our Family Members burned alive ten blocks away. Its just, you know, what happened to monahan. He said that he was going to meet with us. He said he owed a sudden apology. We havent heard words from him. He sent Jimmie Dunne in front of a Senate Committee Panel and make him took arrows. Monahan. Monahan just stepped away and then he came back miraculously. He wasnt sick anymore. So, you know what the Pga Shame on you. You should be advocating that we have closure first and then lets talk about your Golf Deal next. Speaking of golf, the ols We Saw Donald Trump participating in Events Today in New York and in pennsylvania. Meanwhile, his Golf Courses have hosted multiple Liv Golf events, partnering with the saudis, not to mention the numerous ways that he acquiesced to the saudis when he was president , not not that President Biden is above criticism on that respect either how did you how do you think, what do you think about Donald Trump and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden on this . Well, look, i think theres blame to go around everywhere on this you know, the refusal for any candidate to publicly address our pleas it its just heartbreaking. I was at the 911 Memorial Today and i heard 911 widow who pleaded with Vice President harris. President biden, and former President Trump to do something. She took her time when she was reading those names and she turned to the political leaders that come to our hallowed ground every year and they talk about how 911 means so much to them and how we should never forget. Well, theres something that our political leaders can do. And thats hold Saudi Arabia accountable and you know what jake, im going to be fair here and im totally going to tell you that to President Trumps credit he did meet with some of the Family Members today. I was part of that group of people. Now, here he didnt pledge to do anything, but he did he hear our stories and it was the regime of 23 years ago that that did 911 so i think that Vice President harris has a real opportunity here to step up and help these families as well. All right. Brad, thank you so much. Really appreciate it and were sending as always, are strengthen our hearts and our love to you and all of the other 911 families. And may your Fathers Memory be a blessing . We will continue to provide a forum for you and the other 911 families to come here until you feel that you have seen justice we so appreciate that. It means so much to us frost able to come out here and talk to the american people and keep this story in the fore of their minds. So thank you so much. 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This is cnn were back with our 2024 lead in the first and potentially only debate of the president ial campaign under trump and Vice President harris they both offered quite different visions for how they might handle the economy my opponent has a plan that i call the trumps Sales Tax, which would be a 20 tax on everyday goods that you rely on to get through the month. First of all, i have no Sales Tax thats an incorrect statement. She knows that were doing tariff. So in other countries joining us now to discuss independent Senator Bernie sanders from vermont senator, thanks so much for joining us. The first question, Vice President harris was asked in the debate Last Night, was if she believed americans are better off now than they were four years ago, listened to part of her answer well, i will tell you. I was raised as a middleclass kid and i am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of america. We know that young families need support to raise their children, and i intend on extending a Tax Cut for those families of 6,000, which is the largest Child Tax Credit that we have given us a long time. I love our Small Businesses. My plan is to give a 50,000 Tax Deduction to start up Small Businesses, knowing they are part of the backbone of Americas Economy how satisfied were you without response, senator . Well, i think its a stepforward. I think more has got to be done Small Business should be the backbone of the american economy. Many of them are hurting right now. I dont want to Tax Break or would be a real help. But i think weve got to do more. She also mentioned the need to address the Housing Crisis in america which ill tell you, jake is severe vermont and all over this country, People Cant afford housing. 3 Million new Housing Units is what you want. That is the right thing to do. I think she has talked about passing the pro act, which makes it easier for workers to join unions are in better wages and benefits that is very, very important but i think theres a number of other things i would hope that chiefs speaks about, and that is to understand that in America Today, some 60 of our people living paycheck to hey, chuck, you got half of Elderly People living on 30,000 a year . Well, less. What do we have to do . In my view, and i hope shes speaks to these things very popular ideas. You have to increase, expand Social Security benefits by lifting the cap on taxable income widely public Sean Majority of republicans, democrats supported, we can raise benefits and Social Security beneficiaries. My 2,400 a year medical Care Expansion all over the country. Elderly People Cant afford dental, hearing, vision. You expand that. We can get great support and its good policy lets see we have got to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. I would say 17 Bucks an hour. Its not acceptable. So many of our people working 12, 14 Bucks an hour i think what we also got to do is recognize that we have massive Income And Wealth inequality and yes billionaire is going to have to stop paying their fair yes. Share taxes. I think some of those issues are what she has got a slug talking about, shes talking about some of them Child Tax Credit, very important, lowering child and poverty. But shes gotten do more if were going to win over trumps Win Wardens who know that hes a liar, know that he has no agenda. But you got to give them something to say. You dont want life will be better on the Vice President. So it was interesting in both 2016 when you ran for president in 2020, when youre andrew President Donald Trump ran those years as well there was an interesting overlap where there were people who supported you and then when you did not get the nomination, they were more attracted by Donald Trumps message. I dont know and what the exact numbers are, but in an election this close any any vote in, especially in Battleground States is significant do you think that Theres Anything more that she needs to do beyond those policy issues you talked about, which are obviously important to your voters. Is there something stylistically that she needs to do . Is there something messagewise that she needs to do that she isnt doing yeah. Jake, i think heres the message. The message should i know its difficult for many tall politicians to bring forth. And that is the recognition that increasingly the united states is moving to what an oligarchic form of society or the economy is very clear whats going on right now. The Billionaire Class and the 1 have never, ever added so good period, end of discussion more Income And Wealth inequality than any time in american history Tens Of Millions of people working people are struggling to put food on the table. That is the reality its not common. Harriss folks, not Joe Bidens fault that Donald Trumps fault. Its been that way for long time, getting worse. But you dont want youve got to recognize that and then what youve got to say is look, working people of america, i am on your side and i am prepared to take on the Billionaire Class including these its wealthy Campaign Contributors who right now are dominating the political process. In other words, among other things, weve got to get rid of those Citizens United oxygen, which allows billion asked the byelections. So in other words, i think youve got a Working Class that is hurting that. I think is turning to trump only because they dont see Race Hell alternatives. And i think she gives them an economic alternative, festus. I am going to stand for you. Im going to take on these greedy people who wanted all. I think she could turn some trump people around and win this election, maybe win it big take a listen to something, we heard pardon me. Take a listen to something we heard from an undecided voter in erie, pennsylvania. In a Focus Group we did there Last Night after that voter watched the debate when trump was in office, the economy was higher, inflation was lower. Things were better overall. And now with kamala as administration, things havent been so fantastic and shes saying she can fix the problem upset her administration has caused, but i just dont know if i can afford to take that risk the pennsylvania obviously, a must must Battleground State this year, what would you say to that voter . Help me out. I didnt quite clearly hear the sound is not so great. Yeah. Okay. No problem. So it the voter said when trump was in office, the economy was higher, inflation was lower things were better overall and under the Biden Harris administration, things havent been so fantastic. Not sure that she can harris can fix the problems that her administration caused this vote well, obviously, in my view given the fact that the Biden And Harris came in in the midst of theres terrible pandemic. When as you recall, unemployment was soaring, bought Small Businesses were going out of, out of business. Workers were not going to work we had a major public health crisis. I think that Biden Harris than an excellent job, by the way, and getting our economy back on track in a way that it panamas do not even think possible. So i think they did a good job, but her point is well taken in the sense that the Economy Today is an economy. Were Working Class people are struggling. That is absolutely true. And what we have got to do is not just demonize undocumented people, which is trumps mantra, but i have the guts to talk about the greed of the people on top. People who fight workers, where they try to organize unions, people prepared to shut down factory he said this country and move them to mexico or china. People want massive tax rates, want to cut Social Security and medicare. Do we have a political System Today we are members of congress, are prepared to stand up to these big money interests. And i think if we do that, she will understand that its not trump whos going to deliver for her . Well, Camila Harris independent Senator Bernie sanders from the beautiful state of vermont. Its always good to have you on, sir. Thank you so much. Thank you, jake. Hurricane francine is gaining strength as it spins toward towards the louisiana coast. Were just minutes away from The Eye of the storm making landfall and we are tracking all of the latest warnings in the cnn extreme Weather Center thats next things that were better together, like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. 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Cnns Michael Yoshida it is there in Meteorologist Chad myers, cnn extreme Weather Center, mychael. What are you seeing right now where you are and yeah, were right near Jackson Square for those who are familiar with New Orleans, obviously a very touristy. We empty at this point except for the Law Enforcement that were seeing moved through the area as francine gets closer, were seeing those winds really start to pick yep shaking the trees also, if we look down to caters there, you can see some of the signs that were left up really just blowing in the way that this point as we bring it back over, you can see a lot of the shops along The Street have been closed officials throughout the last few days, really urging people closer to that landfall to really hunker down some of the signs up toxic out for the safety of their employees they have shut down because they want them obviously to be at home, not out on the road. But ways, conditions really getting worse at this point, of course, as this storm appears to be shifting i expected to get worse over the next few hours here in New Orleans. Chad, what more can you can you tell us as francine prepares to make landfall it did shift to the east and now i believe that New Orleans proper will be in the right side of The Eye, which means maybe you are preparing for a 50 mile per hour storm. Now, New Orleans, you need to prepare for 75. Thats whats going to happen here. Were already seeing Wind Gusts over for one 100 offshore and onshore here in the by use of louisiana, that picture out of Morgan City boy, that wind really has been blowing 62 miles per hour at this point in time. And youre just getting the beginning of The Eyewall, right now. We dont have landfall just yet because the center of The Eye has to cross land. Its very close, although sometimes theres not much land there. We are going to see the rainfall continue for New Orleans. We always know that they have those pumps that have to get the water out two to three inches of rain per hour is the threshold. New orleans, you just had a gust to 41 miles per hour. But if youre in an orleans, if youre in mettrie, if youre anywhere in this area, i need you to charge your phone. I need you to charge little batteries, your little Backup Power because i know that power will be going out and stay away from the windows especially the high highrise windows when the storm gets close, we will have some damage there in New Orleans because of slide eastward shift with the storm itself. So get ready for it. Its on its way. Its going to be a bigger event for, you know, orleans. And i think probably we thought even 12 hours ago, but keep your headon. Get ready to put this together. Youre ready, get ready to go to bed because this is going to blow all night long, but make sure you stay away from those windows. Could certainly some glass could break those highrises, jake. Alright. Chad myers and Michael Yoshida. Thank you so much to both you. Our teams will be we following Hurricane Francine as it starts really battering this southeastern united states, including with wolf blitzer