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This is the first picture just released by Abc News from inside the national Constitution Center in philadelphia. 25 hours from now it happens the first and so far only scheduled debate between Vice President harris and former President Trump, not just their first debate of the campaign. Therell be the first time theyve ever actually met Vice President harris arrive late today after what the campaign said it was a long weekend of Debate Prep and campaign appearances in pittsburgh and a conversation with nationally syndicated Radio Personality Rickey smiley, which aired this morning. In it, she laid out her plans for helping Small Businesses if elected and talked about what shes expecting Tomorrow Night he played through this really old and tired playbook, right . Where he, theres no floor for him in terms of how long he will go and we should be prepared for that. We should be prepared for the fact that he is not burdened by telling the truth the Campaign Today also unveiled an ad which will be airing tomorrow in philadelphia, as well as the Maralago Area featuring unflattering clips from trumps own former top officials it should come as no surprise that i will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year this defense secretary, do you think trump can be trusted with the nations secrets ever again . No. I mean, its just irresponsible action that places our Service Members at risk, places our Nations Security at risk is national security adviser Donald Trump will cause a lot of damage the only thing he cares about is Donald Trump well, new polling from the New York Times with good news for the former president and his 48 to 47 advantage among likely voters is within the Polls Margin of error, meaning no clear leader. The times describes it as the first ladys hadnt a major nonpartisan national survey in about a month additionally, 28 of likely voters say they need to lea the stakes considerably for the former Vice President Tomorrow Night. If as the polling suggests, shell be making a first impression on so many voters. Now, in that same polling, just 9 said they need to learn more about the former President Trumps spent much of the weekend on familiar ground suggesting, yet again, with no evidence yet again, that this election will not be free and fair and threatening Campaign And Election officials quoting from his social Media Post when i win, those people that cheated will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which will include long Term Prison sentences. So that this depravity of justice does not happen again he went on those involved in unscrupulous behavior will be sought out, caught in prosecuted at levels. Unfortunately, never seen before in our country. He also had this to say about his plans for mass deportations of undocumented immigrants in colorado. There was so brazen theyre taking over sections of the state and, you know, getting them out will be a bloody his story should have never been allowed to come into our country. Nobody checked him a lot to talk about tonight. Cnns Priscilla Alvarez starts us off. She has been traveling with the Vice President is at the debate site, so what more do we know about how the Vice President is prepping . Well, anderson, one source describing this to be as robust Debate Prep, of course, the Vice President has sorted those Debate Preparations last month, but she hunkered down with her inner group of advisers over the last few days in pittsburgh. Now, its down to the wire sources telling cnn that her Debate Team is preparing bring her for potential insults, name calling, and derogatory comments from the former president. But they also want her to stay on message and stay focused. You mentioned there are some of the polls and voters wanting to know more about who she is. Well, one, harris allies telling me earlier today, the Vice President is keenly aware of this. She also sees this as an Opportunity Kennedy to introduce herself or reintroduce herself to voters and her own vision for the country, knowing that she needs to reach those persuadable voters, those undecided. So this is going to be another opportunity that theyre going to use to try to do exactly that. But of course, all of this is going to call me in that first Facetoface Encounter, one that aides and allies say she has been waiting for, for a long time. Anderson alvarez. Thanks very much. Now to cnns Kristen Holmes at the Trump Campaign. What are you learning about . The former president s strategy for Tomorrow Night . Well, anderson, if you talk to the Trump Campaign, they say everything Donald Trump does is Debate Prep, whether it be taking questions at the New York economic club or sitting out for a town hall. But that also means no actual Debate Prep in terms of mock debates, known as sitting and playing the Vice President know isnt sitting in playing the moderator. We do know, obviously weve reported that he has these Policy Sessions in which he talks to his leading advisers about various policy and how to pivot away from specific questions to the topics they want him to focus on, like immigration, like inflation and the economy like crime, and whether or not that works, well see on the Debate Stage on tuesday, but i can tell you this talking to a number of his allies, the big concern they have is not what he says its about policy, but its whether or not he lets Kamala Harris get under his skin and whether or not he loves those personal attacks, they want him to stay away from all of that they are very keenly aware of, obviously of his Tone And Temperament and think that it could be bad if he has any reactive moments to Kamala Harris, they have stressed this to him. They are just hoping that Donald Trump, who shows up on Tuesday Abides by this, listens and stays calm all right. Kristen holmes, thanks very much. We touched him, the former president s renewed implication of election conspiracies at the top of the program. In another example, he focuses on pennsylvania and im quoting is posting now an interview by Tucker Carlson of an Election Expert indicates that 20 of the Mailin Ballots in pennsylvania are fraudulent. Here we go again. Wheres the u. S. Attorney general and fbi to investigate . Wheres the pennsylvania Republican Party . We will win pennsylvania by a lot, almost the dems are allowed to cheat the rnc must activate. Now, perspective now joining us former Virginia Republican Congressman Scott Taylor and Ashley Etienne who served as communications its instructed Vice President harris and former Republican Congressman adam kinzinger, who served on the January 6 committee and has endorsed Vice President harris scott. I mean, hes lying about this in pennsylvania. Theres no widespread election voter fraud. Theres no evidence of it in Mailin Ballots people just discount this. It just like at this point is just like, oh, this is what he does. But is this acceptable . I mean, hes basically its do you you think this is acceptable . Listen, listen, anderson, there are a lot of folks out there, literally millions of americans who had a big problem with 2020 well, i know, but its just factually they dont have any evidence like courts looked at it. I know a lot of people because its promoted on a lot of networks and a lot of radio networks. But just saying a lot of people feel this doesnt make it true. I think, you know, its not true, i assume, but theres no evidence look, as i said before, there are tons of irregularities in the 2020 election that never happened before, right . There are people who have problems with it and thats something i think its a good topic. What are the tons of regularity . Sure suspension of state law, State Laws that didnt have before covid Drop Boxes that are unsecure. Theres tons of things out there that change in 2020 that are still there. Now, i think this is, as i said, look, i ran in 2020 and i lost in 2020, but there are many people to include folks in my family and will you had issues with The Way that 2020 was handled, had issues with zucker blocks, for example, hundreds of millions of dollars being sent through nonprofits to do get out the vote. Theres people who think the earth is flat. Again theres people around the dinner table. I think the earth those are facts. Those are facts. Congressman kinzinger i mean is this normal . I mean, its amazing to me how this has now just like, oh, of course, hes tweeting out this stuff about this denigrate the election its disgusting. And man, scott, i love you, but Come On dude, are words have an impact on this country. But country that you and i both thought for people look up to people, even besides Donald Trump, for a taste of whats going to happen, the this election when Donald Trump is saying this is exactly what he did before 2020 when he is saying that the election is going to be stolen all hes doing is setting up so that when he loses, if he loses, he can then turn around and say, see, i told you it was going to be stolen. Its going to be stolen. Lets be clear about dropboxes to what dropbox is are not is a box that you open up theres just a ton of unlabeled ballots with loads on it and he thrown through a voting machine, you have to put your name on your ballot, you sign it when it goes into the secretary of states officer, whoever is counting, they can compare and see this Person Vote on by Mailin Ballot or any other way, if not great, if its legitimate accounts and if you show up the vote on election day, youll be denied because you voted in this dropbox all of the secretaries of state that ran the same. The Trump Campaign should be encouraging people to vote early, invoked convenient time, but instead its more important actually ashley, let me go to you. I mean, whats interesting . Thing is that if you dont, there actually, there, are, people who committed Election Fraud and they were attorneys allegedly working for the former president who actually orchestrated a plan to get voting machines, get voting machines, take them to Hotel Rooms and break into them and theyre being prosecuted right now in states throughout the united states absolutely. And those people have some of them have pled guilty in the others have been indicted, and those are those staffers as close to the former the former president , one of whom was actually his former chief of staff. But, interesting the reason i wanted to jump in here because you talked about evidence of cheating and there is actual evidence of trying to cheat the election. It was President Trump. He called Georgia Secretary of state and asked for 11,000 votes. You could actually cue that video. Theres audio of it. He doesnt even deny it. He was impeached the first time for attempting to try to cheat the election, and then to your point, he launched a national scheme to actually do that. And when he did not not succeed, what did he do . He threw an entire tantrum and incited an insurrection, a deadly insurrection at the u. S. Capitol. So the only evidence of trying to cheat the election to your point is coming from Donald Trump and im not sure how republicans can defend his actions and called themselves patriotic. I think that is really whats confronting them now, its the truth is in front of them. Theyre denying it to the former Congressmans Point and we need to actually just be honest with american people. Its Donald Trump who consistently draws a g20 election. Scott, if you want to respond yeah. I mean, of course, lets not question each others patriotism. Thats ridiculous and absurd. But the reality is there are folks who have issues with this. They want to have a safe and secure election just like anyone. And the present former president is highlighting that and every time you make the argument, every time every time you start your argument with their people who believed this it weakens your argument. I mean, thats classic high School Debate Stuff like if thats your thesis, there are people interested leave this anderson, thats all that means with all due with all due respect with all due respect. And that would be the same the steele dossier, Hunter Bidens laptop lag, lab leak theory, dismissal, jussie smollett, and so on. So on, on this network. To beat, to be honest, i mean, you guys didnt have the facts, correct there right. And people believe those things with all due respect. Well, that was not attempting to overthrow an election. Theres also things that are something wrong. And people that say, what is proven wrong. Oh, really adam, this russia, Russia Wasnt an Hunter Biden laptop, Wasnt Attempt to, be in there and save of course, it wasnt of stayed the same and election is going to be stolen and lying about it is the equivalent of the steele dossier, which was disproven after the election quickly was not used in 2020. And even the Hunter Biden stuff, who was not running for president , hes never run for president. Hes not attempting to go when the oval office, but hes an obsession with people ashley, i mean, do you see this as the president basically just trying the former president just trying to kind of throw everything against, see what sticks. Election. Theres Election Fraud, theres all this stuff, or is it . Kind of kind of preparing The Way for if he loses challenging i mean, i think its a d all the above. I think hes trying to muddy the waters. I think hes trying to confuse the issue. I think hes misleading the public, obviously, because as i said, it was him who actually made the Phone Phone Call trying to get 11,000 votes when he didnt win, georgia. So but hes also setting up a Dynamic And Excuse for when he loses. So i think all of these things are true, but i think whats most disappointing is that some people keep perpetuating all of these lies that Donald Trump put out there, that he puts out there. I mean, there not telling the american people the truth, which is there was there was a failed attempt and it was at the hands of Donald Trump Congressman Kinzinger, your former house gop colleague, Liz Cheney, announced shes going to be voting for Vice President harris. I want to play a little bit about her talking about coming to that decision and then were also would serve sanders, the Arkansas Governor said in response to a vote i ever cast was for Ronald Reagan in 1984. Ive never voted for a democrat. Wow and it tells you, i think the stakes in this election Donald Trump presents a challenge and a threat fundamentally to the republic. Im not trying to be rude, but you dont get to call yourself a conservative or republican when you support the most radical nominee that the democrats have ever put up, frankly, i dont think this is news. It should come as no shock that Liz Cheney is not supporting the president Congressman Kinzinger, youve endorsed Vice President harris. Do you still consider yourself a republican i do. Because look, i mean, honestly, The Party left me. You look at what i believe the things i still a espouse, like Theres Nothing different than when i was in congress. I mean, age, moderate to you on a few things, a little bit but i didnt change. So you have to ask yourself, why is it that Liz Cheney and myself are not welcomed by the Republican Party . Is it because we all of a sudden change to what we vote for, we want higher Tax Or Something no. Its because we did not bow the knee to Donald Trump. So that is the Litmus Test of being a republican is can you do . But then Donald Trump . And will you, no matter what . And if youre unwilling to do that, evidently The Party doesnt want you and Donald Trump even said he doesnt want Nikki Haley voters. So this is an issue for The Party, not for me. I can look at myself in the mirror quite happily. And taylor, do you think a cheney of the cheneys, both of them endorsing harris, do you think that that matters . I mean, do you think it has any impact given The Way the Republican Party has now, where its moved like both, both liz and adam and for Vice President cheney, like i have Nothing But Respect for all of them and i start with adam, i served with liz and i appreciate what i have. No i dont question the authenticity of their decision to vote for whoever they want. Juan and i respect their choice. I deeply disagree with them and i dont believe that its the right thing to do for them to do that i will say i think that there is a realigning both domestically and politics as well as Around The World. But The Party has changed and thats not unnatural. Thats happened many times throughout our history, quite frankly, with the realigning of police well, lets x and you see that happening in real time. And i think that for a lot of folks that are in the bubble, a lot of folks that are in dc its its its challenging for them for this type of change. But i dont think it really moves the needle to be honest with you, were gonna take a quick break. Well have more ahead. I want to focus more on the debate, namely tactics and preparation, how they might shape what voters see Tomorrow Night. Later, Jessica Leeds, what she says about the foreign president s renewed attacks on her on friday and what he said about her groping allegation that she quote, would not have been the chosen one. 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We pay your safe place he as long as i agree i dont know lets not give her complex loved get out of my head, will thrive standing like this your Skin And Omni lox led. Com im Alayna Treene traveling with the Trump Campaign and this is cnn just over 24 hours, company harris will meet on the Debate Stage, were talking tonight about how the two candidates have been getting ready for their first debate and how things might play out on stage. Heres what the former president told Sean Hannity last week about his Debate Plan Debate is interesting. You really, you can go in with all the strategy you want, but you have to sort of fill it out as the debates taking place. Ive seen it. You go in there and you have a strategy. Mike tyson made the Statement Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face back now, with our panel, ashley do you think Vice President harris, shes never met trump she never been on a oneonone debate with him. He obviously has done this many times. Do you think shes at a big disadvantage . Absolutely not. Theres a lot of footage that she can study in that im hearing that she is studying about the of the former president debating theres very little on her. So i think she actually has an advantage there in, you know, and heres the reality is Donald Trump is a Onetrick Pony i mean, thats why hes hes hit a Ceiling Filling in the polls. Thats why the republicans are in allout Panic Mode because they want him to be something that hes not. So the pressure in this debate in my opinion is on Donald Trump because shes got room to grow to your point earlier, theres 28 of the american public that dont yet know her. So shes got room to grow. Theres very little percent of the country that doesnt know Donald Trump and he cannot pivot, he cant present another Donald Trump and its proving the point that people are over a third season of Donald Trump. They dont want it any longer. So hes got the pressures on him Tomorrow Night to show the american People Something different. And i dont think that he can congressman taylor, what are you going to be looking for tomorrow . I actually take the opposite obviously, of course. As ashley, i take the opposite end of the spectrum. I think the pressure is actually on, Kamala Harris i believe, and i said this on the network a few weeks ago. I think that shes actually pete, i think when she came in, obviously, there was Dem Excitement Replacing and president biden, you had the massive amounts of positive media coverage. She had the dnc now, people have theyre going to theyre going to see her and she has a big challenge because shes essentially going against herself. Shes going to try to present this new Kamala Harris that is different from the one from a month ago. And i think thats going to be really tough and i think President Trump is capable enough to show that contrast then be able to go around her and show that shes not a new kamala. I mean, Shes Part of the old, right. I mean, shes coming from the administration for almost four years. Shes the ultimate insider. She was she didnt win an election as an outsider. Of course, shes was part of the palace coup, if you will and Congressman Kinzinger comes from tell him raises an interesting point which is that Kamala Harris has changed her position on things fracking most notably but im wondering if that has as much impact as it might have had in prior years because has trump changed the game on that . I mean, he is obviously changed his positions so much and even just now, last couple of weeks then suddenly one ivf and legalized marijuana and a whole host of things so do the same rules apply . So im glad you brought this up because this was going to be my point, which is i do think theres a little more pressure on kamala mainly because the Double Standard that existence, its a reality. I mean, Donald Trump gets away with literally anything hes thrown so much garbage at the wall that people are just fatigued with it and he can say whatever he wants and theyre going to be watching like a hawk. What kamala does. So yes, shes changed her position, which is smart by The Way, she was Vice President for four years. You see things a lot differently after being Vice President , id much rather have somebody that says, now i actually think this is the better way to do it because of the position ive sat in but i dont think its going to matter literally. I dont think people are going to say, well, she shifted physician, so im going to go with Donald Trump because lets be honest and im not saying this even as a gratuitous attack, Donald Trump changes his position on everything based on how he feels in the morning, or literally anderson, we were told this when we are trying to convince him to stay in syria and protect the kurds, whoever speaks to him last is whoever he ends up making a decision but but youre disadvantage is simply that people hold her to the standards they would hold a normal person, they own Donald Trump by a complete different Double Standard, which is unfortunate frankly, but its just bad. Ashley, so far that the harris campaign, the former Vice President , certainly, i walz with the whole weird thing. They have figured out a way to sort of get at Donald Trump that Nobody Marco rubio try with little hands, a lot of people have sort of debase them, some themselves trying to figure out how to counteract the talents of the former president , certainly on a Debate Stage Kamala Harris has done that in a way that nobody else has. Do you think she continues that . I mean, does she, you know, shes shes resisted getting drawn in to a number of the things that he has raised she just recently turned black, things like that. Shes sort of shrugged it off her shoulder. Do you think thats the strategy she continues facetoface . Yeah. I think thats absolutely it. You ignore him, but i think shes going to strategically figure out how to get under his skin, how to needle him on things that actually matter. But heres the this is why i think the the mics being turned off works to her advantage is because you cant get into match with Donald Trump. I hope i can say that on your show, anderson, because hes actually perfected the art is not the art of the deal is the art of the match. And hes perfected it and it reminds me of my favorite mark twain quote. You cannot argue with a fool because an independent of Zarba Wont be able to know the difference between the two of them. So i dont think shes going to get in the mud with trump. I think shes got her most important audience is those undecided disaffected republicans, those independent voters as still yet dont know her so shes going to rise above it as what im hearing. And shes going to actually try to lay out and convey a vision for how we take america forward, which is one one of her greatest contrast against Donald Trump. Ashley etienne, Scott Taylor, adam kinzinger. Thank you. Appreciate it. Meanwhile, in the battleground, state of wisconsin, a Cbs Cbsyougov Poll released over the weekend shows Harris And Trump are Neck And Neck harris is at 51 . Trump 49 to two Point Gap falls within the Polls Margin of error, indicating no clear leader. Thats why we sent our Gary Tuchman to small Door County in wisconsin, which is back the winning president ial candidate for nearly three decades. He spoke to voters there to see where they Stand In the 2024 Race Violinist Serenade this Farmers Market in the small town of baileys harbor, wisconsin which is located in the states eastern most County A county that seems to have a sixth sense when it comes to president ial politics. Who are you voting for in this election coming up between Kamala Harris and Kamala Harris and 2020 between Joe Biden, Donald Trump. Who did you vote for . Joe biden . 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, who did you vote . I did vote for Donald Trump, but this violinist did is what Door County did. Donald trump won the county when he win the presidency, he lost or county when he lost the presidency . But thats just a part of the story about this Bellwether County that sits on a peninsula. The voters here or back the winning president ial candidate in the last seven elections since 1996. And if only miss twice in the last 60 years who do you plan to vote for in this election between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump . And in the last election in 2020 between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, Footage Vote for biden election before that in 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump what he can so youve switched around just like this county . Yeah Door County has been one of the most politically accurate counties in the whole country. But because its in the battleground, state of wisconsin, its getting extra attention. Do you know youre Gonna Vote for in november for president while for trump i will vote for tom law. And tim for trump. Kamala harris, you are the Door County democratic Party Chair . I am. Whats the vibe on the ground right now . Oh my gosh, the vibe has never been stronger your the Door County Republican Chair . Yes. Correct. Whats the vibe you have in the ground right now for what happened in this county . And election day, its really intense and theres a lot of people for our side. We have a lot of new people coming in, a lot of people wanting to get involved. Weve gotten 300 new volunteers since Kamala Harris announced that she was running for president , 300 people in this little county of 30,000 people. Theres a lot of energy right now. There you do feel the Energy Plenty of signs, voters here are engaged and no problem getting them there. Talk about the race and the issues. Do you know who youre going to vote for november for president . I do who is that . Kamala harris. And how come because i feel shes reliable trustful and shes for womens rights i think thats one of the big issues right now, is womens rights. Youre ready to vote for Donald Trump. What do you think the most important issue in the election . I would say just like foreign policy, border, Southern Border thats probably the biggest thing to me. Door county is a very picture as place. And champions her residents and tourists alike. But whether it maintains its propensity for Proficient Political Pinata The Cation remains to be seen. And predicting that were going to win Door County. I think its a good be confident, but dont get cocky so im hopeful, but we have to make sure we work hard to make it happen. So whats the Reason Anderson for the Street Karen Go or county . Well, theres no definitive answer. We do know that theres some luck involved. A lot of these elections are very close and weve also heard from people here in this county that has lots of do with the variety of people who live here the Population Ranges from farmers who lived here their whole lives, to people from waukee in chicago and other big cities who come here every summer, love it, and then move here permanently and go on the voter rolls. So the combination of different people with different political ideas may indeed lead to a very close dynamic election results. Theres like a nice place its Gary Tuchman, thanks so much Programming Reminder the debate is tomorrow, 9 00 p. M. Eastern. You can catch the abc News President ial debate simulcast plus postdebate analysis. Right here on cnn coming up friday, the former president verbally attack Jessica Leeds, one of the women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. 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Jessica leeds responded in her own appearance outside Trump Tower im here today to tell my story. Yet again because i believe its important to remind voters he May 15 years ago and continues to attack me today Jessica Leeds joins me. Now. Thanks for being with us. Obviously, this is not the first time that trump has denied the accusations and salted you along The Way. Were you surprised that he brought this up again less than a few months before the election . Yes. I was surprised, once again to hear my name coming out of his mouth, right . Yes. Did you know he said of you . He said you know, that it didnt happen it couldnt have happened. It didnt happen and that she you would not have been the chosen one and he repeated that. You would not have been the chosen one when you heard that, what did you think . I laughed out loud. I couldnt believe he was using that word like some sort of Cult Figure i personally believe he has convinced himself that it didnt happen he is a predator of women i was not the first. Of course, i was not the last. But there had been enough so that he doesnt remember, you had said that i mean, initially i mean, what do you have said all along is that he groped you on this flight out just you were sitting on the flight next to him . Im Out Of The Blue and that later on you actually ran into him again. I think it was a charity event. You were kind of at a booth with tables and he you say he recognized and used a very derogatory term. I mean, he you said he wreck he saw you and he said to you, like, youre that lady from right there playing yeah. Thats what kind of know the violence of the attack i would never forget that but that was quite a experience because it was in the middle of a gathering of people all dressed up tuxedos, lovely ball gowns. There were the designers like a charity. It was a charity event. Bobby shore was playing it was it was New York seen Incomes Trump with his wife and i recognized him i recognize him from newspapers and whatnot before and im thinking, oh, you jerk. And i remember putting his Number Ticket Number out towards him. And he looked me straight in the eye and he says, I Remember You now. Know he doesnt remember that was what, 50 years ago. And i can understand that as i said, that he in his own mind all of these events because he doesnt want to own up to them have just kind of merged into one of the things he said on friday, he said now i assume shell sue me for defamation. Like i got sued by e. Jean carroll. Are you considering filing a lawsuit . The technical term is were leaving all of our options open. But no, my my goal in when i was asked to testify at a Genes Trial was to establish that this is his behavior longstanding and im have nothing to gain from it. So he didnt attend that trial. He wasnt there when you testified, do you think that was a mistake . Again . No, i dont think it was a mistake do you think it was a sign of him just how did you interpret him not being there . Well, hes hes hes got problems in terms of he likes to be known as a ladies man. He wants he likesand the main reason that he keeps saying im not his type or the chosen one is because he cant recognize that this 82yearold Lady was pretty enough and 1997, in 1979 thats what thats why i gave the times. I knew that then the years ago. Thats why i gave them a picture of what i looked like at that point because because he cant he cant see himself. He doesnt recognize himself as getting old, but hes getting old do you do you think about this a lot . I mean, does this still hurt you i was like most people. We have tragedy happened in life you compartmentalize, you put it away, you put it someplace where its not going to stop you from living your life i really didnt think much about it until 2015 when i realize hes seriously was running for president. So i literally started telling everybody who would listen to me, then people at work, the kids at work, my neighbors, my family my for son. It was whoever would listen to me. And then when it got to the actual Campaign And Trump have the debate it. So infuriated is just made me so angry that thats when i wrote the letter. Jessica leeds. Thank you for being with us. Welcome. Its good to see you up next from the first Jfknixon Debate in 1960 to the Harris Trump Debate Tomorrow Night, ill talk with my favorite Gas President Ials Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin. Youll feel like that Debate Allergies with a legro. They wont stop me. 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How did they prepare for it . Because those are the details that make it come to life at the kind of person it is. I mean, as weve been reading that harris has been preparing for days and watching all of the old trump debates. And then he she was slammed by trump for having locked herself in and prepare too much. And he feels like he can be easy with her because hes got a great experience. But that same echo what this is, why i always go back to history, right . The same dynamic was there in 1960 where nixon was sure he was the better debater. He didnt prepare for it. He was campaigning until the day you have it. He was in seclusion on the day of it. And jfk prepared for days and days and days. Even to the extent where they were each given a chance to go to the Tv Studio to look at the backdrop. And kennedys people went and they saw that it was a gray backdrop. So they made sure he had a blue suit on. Nixon, didnt go, so he wore a gray Suit And Sort of melted into the backdrop. But more importantly, kennedy had 105 bad cards. He had memorized, anticipated questions and anticipated rebuttals to nixon, and he sat on his bed the morning of the debate, flipping them off to the floor as he memorized each one. And he was so relaxed that he took a nap in the afternoon and by the time he got to the studio so he knew he knew what he had to know. Whereas nixon came in without having thought about it that much thinking. I just know this stuff because im the Vice President in your husband, dick goodwin, was actually involved in the Debate Prep for for kennedy they kennedy and nixon were relatively friendly from their time serving in the house together they had been indeed and there wasnt a great acrimony even at that point in time. My husband was part of a team of three with Ted Sorensen and the guy who did research, nick, Mike Feldman and they didnt have a standin at that time for nixon, but they had something called the knicks, a pedia, which was every statement that nixon had ever made a huge which binders and dick as the younger Speech Writer had to carry that around from place to place so they just really imagined what he would come back with and they had an answer for it because they knew that he had to have facts. Thats whats interesting in 1960, what matter did you add real facts so that jfk could look like he was experienced, look like he knew what he was talking about and nixon just winged it i thin that if shes prepared for that, that could be one of those moments when she can turn things around. I mean, it seems to me surprising that he would do that but maybe he will not knowing knowing his impulsivity. And i can well imagine that her whole lifetime has prepared for that i mean, think about it was the debate which she had with biden beforehand when he was talking about dealing with a segregation as southerners and talking about busing. And she was very prepared for that. Obviously, she said, you know, i was that Little Girl on the bus, but they already had tshirts. Was that Little Girl on the bus going to an integrated but in school, i am sure that hes got to know that if any subject shes prepared on it will be that and she could really turn that around i want to ask you about your new book, though, the Leadership Journey for kids became president you wrote it for older children and i love this idea because i mean, i do think its so important history is not being taught as much in schools, you know, ive talked about this before getting kids interested in history and seeing the ripple effects of it in their own lives. The former president came down that escalator in Trump Tower 20159 years ago. If youre 12 or 13yearsold, trump politics its kind of all you know, it just heartbreaking to me that history is being diminished in schools and that these young people have lived through a really difficult time of polarized politics, where not heroes in our current moment for them to look for. What i was able to do was to go back to my for guys, the guys that ive lived with my whole Life Abraham Lincoln and teddy roosevelt, franklin roosevelt, and lbj, all of whom lived in turbulent times. But all of whom came through those times. And the book starts with stories. I mean, history should be about stories. Its about people stories of them when they were young, so you watch them become leaders because they cant just become an icon, they cant become somebody the on mount rushmore, they have to evolve into leaders. They acknowledge errors, they learn how to accept loss with Grace And Triumph and triumph with modesty and i think a young person can really see i can develop leadership of my team, of my school of my country eventually be if i learn these qualities which are Empathy And Humility and resilience and an ambition for something larger than yourself, which is probably the most important thing yeah, i mean, we all need heroes and especially kids and to be able to have look back in our own history and see and have these remarkable heroes and relate to them as they were as children in their journey Doris Kearns Goodwin. Thank you so much for your time. The new book, the Leadership Journey, how four kids became president. It goes on Sale Tomorrow well, still ahead. We remember the Life And Legacy of actor james Earl Jones im adding downey unstoppable us to my wash. Now, ill be smelling fresh allday long with downey and doubles. He just tossed wash. Wow. For all day freshness. You mr. 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This is cnn in 1989 to mark cnns upcoming ten Year Anniversary was so short. I mean, it took five minutes, right. And i forgot it. But perhaps his most famous line is this Come On, Darth Vader was originally played by a different actor. But The Way jones tells i. T. Director George Lucas decided he needed to more sinister voice, called me and said, you want to do a Days Work . And i say yeah, a Days Work, twoandahalf hours . Yeah. Thats all all the Darth Vader languages in twoandahalfhour. Few thousand dollars i went home how he master vaders voice, the key to divert is a narrow band of Expression No inflections. Hes not human. His Movie Credits Extend Well Beyond Star Wars Jones also appeared in field of dreams, the Lion King and Patriot Games to name a few. All of this from a man whos struggled as a child to speak. He opened up to Larry King in 1993 about his childhood stutter. You will stutter. Stutter, stammer. I still am. And youll hear me the night star. Im sure. I just i think it you Come On and so you stayed silent it was so embarrassing and painful to talk because the kids in the Back Row at laugh and it was painful for the stutter and i just decided to go mom in fact, jones hardly said a word from age six to age 14 but after a teacher helped him write and read poetry, and he discovered i wrote poetry and he got me to read my portrait in front of the class. And when i did, it didnt start her jones eventually found his distinctive thundering voice and those Vocal Cords of his launched a career hed never imagined not just hollywood, but broadway two, he wouldnt. Three, tony awards, including one in 1969 for his role in the Great White pe