Tonight. On to beat. Why kamala harris is preparing for a circuit's in a faceoff that will define the rest of this race plus this is the new narrative of vial, the lemmings in the mainstream me this week if it wasn't clear, then it is now in a chilling warning. Donald trump says, he'll throw his political opponents behind bars also liz cheney calls trump and vance sexist. There misogynistic pigs. Nikki haley gives the republican ticket some blunt advice. Change the way you talk about women. You don't need to call comme la down and we fact check the latest conspiracy. Donald trump's saves the world from a game of duck hunt live at the table. David urban, ana navarro madison, jesse auto and keith boykin welcome to a special edition of newsnight, state of the race good evening i'm. Abby phillip in new york let's get right to what america is talking about. 24 hours from now, vice president kamala harris and donald trump will not only face off in philadelphia for their very first and possibly only debate, but it will also be the first time that the two of them have ever met facetoface? tonight, harris is preparing for trump to make things very personal he plays through this really old and tired playbook, right? where he, there's no floor for him in terms of how long he would go and we should be prepared for that. I think he's online and you know, he has a playbook that he is used in the past be it, you know his attacks on president obama or hillary clinton so we should expect a kind of that might come out all right, debate eve, ana navarro that's what she'll expect from trump. But how will she respond? because she seemed to almost suggest that maybe she might just try to ignore it and breeze past it, but can she do that? so she's seems to have done that so far, right. Because donald trump has been throwing out spewing out at hominem attacks against her nonstop since she became the nominee. And i feel like every day i turned on cnn and david urban is on tv telling donald trump that he advises him not to use personal attacks and he's obviously not listening. I don't think i think his advisers are telling him not to do it. I think the guy cannot control himself. He's been doing it for 78 years, hard to think that he's going to stop for 78 minutes tomorrow kamala harris needs to be unbothered. She needs to not let him get under her skin, not let him beat her. The people who have gone totally toll and into the mud with trump, people like marco rubio, who they were adding a debate over the size of their hands and all this stuff. It's never ended well but what she cannot do is let him bully her. She's got be precedential. She's got to stand her ground she knows she got a she's got a fact check him. That guy is never getting fat shut down on real time. I'm looking forward to kamala harris being presidential holding her own demanding her hein reclaiming her space and fact checking. Donald trump seems to have the easier job here. All he has to do is not go off the look that might be it i think that jimmy i think go ahead. Do it once, you know, listen, that's i will encourage him to do that, but i think the vice president is paying hopeful that donald trump does it. He engages in that kind of rhetoric because it makes her job a lot easier if she's going to show up and talk about her record. It's going to be a lot more difficult because people in this election looking for change, they're unhappy with the current course of the bidenharris administration. She's trying to run as an outsider, right? if she's gotten they tried to defend the current positions while positioning herself as an outsider. This is a lot of she's going to engage in some real political gymnastics tomorrow, right? our own kfile had to report today going through her report, her some of her responses to an aclu questionnaire written in for this last presidential election she isn't how many different places on so many different positions. Yet she says they know that it's fair. Listen, you can say that the president trump has evolved on, on, on abortion, right? it's a fair thing and i've been lifted. He's explaining what kamala harris hasn't done is she's not explained our position on how she's evolved on fracking, how she's well done, guns, how she's evolved on whether reparations, how people would look at the issues here. I mean, abortion, you talk about that as you down, trump has been on every side of the abortion issue in the past month. He's even switch his opinion on the amendment in florida. Look at the border down. Trump has no credibility on the border issue because he was one killed. The border deal and border crossings are lower now than they were when he left office, he can't talk about crime because what he's a convicted felon and crime went up when he was president and went down under biden. He can't talk about defense because, you know why? because he wouldn't defend america on january 6. He can't talk about the economy because we lost 2. 7 million jobs when donald trump what's the president? and we gained 15. 6 million times with joe biden and kamala harris on every single issue, not even talk about family values because this is a guy who slept with a porn star and paid hush money to do so i mean, this guy has no credibility for all the issues that republicans said. They believed in for decades. But he's a pit in me of the antithesis away but they said they believe when you talk about this, this is not what the polling is showing that we look at the polling going into tomorrow. Many more people are going to be hearing from kamala harris for the very first time, almost a third of people that are going to be voting, that are likely voters aren't sure what they feel about her. And so she has to win over a much higher percentage of people tomorrow than donald trump does. Many people's opinions already baked ben of donald trump. When you see people wanting change and you see this new, new york times poll reflecting that donald trump is two times more of a change agent. And the way people view kind of people that doubling 25% of people. The kamala as general trend, i think that's the problem for donald trump is spinning his whole campaign, talking about the past, he's talking about going back to relitigate it between election four years ago, we were economically in a much better place when he was well use of jobs are we going better this tremendous know that that's the way most people, country view. It couldn't, you can argue about covid, but you can't. Years ago and has no well, don't you just brought up is important because that new york times poll does show that about a third of the electorate says they don't know enough about vice president harris and her campaign has pursued a strategy of saying they're going to be super selective about how they put her out when they put her out how that message comes out about what she stands for, putting out. For example, that just this weekend, a policy page on her website, was that really the right strategy given that we're eight months out and the action that many voters say they don't know enough about her i think she needs to do a lot more press particularly local press, particularly podcast press that reach young people. It can't be that, you know, that she does one interview and because at one interview or kind of like all of a sudden becomes this event and i think she did well in that interview, she needs to do interviews, more interviews people need to get to know her more she's the truth of the matter is that being vice president, i think they actually knew her better when she was u. S. Senator and when she was attorney general than they did as vice president because the job of being number two is the job of being number two. You know, nobody has, ever voted for her at the top of the ticket. And that's i think something interesting going into november, it'll be the first time that something like this has happened where she's never even voted for at the top of the ticket in a primary. Understand people make the argument that yes, she was on the ticket with biden, but she was not voted for as that top ticket kinetic in a primary and in a lot of people they talked to democrats included say that they don't believe she may have been the candidate if there was a primary you said that you brought that new york times poll up. I just want to talk about the real quickly. The sienna poll found 61% of voters want the next president to bring major change for the biden ministration, right? 61% of the people and they got out which candidate represents change? 53% trump, 25% harris. This election is about change. If donald trump shows up tomorrow night and talks about this is the bidenharris administration. You can't run from your record if you feel good about he's going to talk about the past again, he always talks about that. A lot of pass exactly. There's a lot of things but he convinced he's spent the past week talking about his litigation, his court cases. He's talked wrong. That's wrong. Past the path that will help i have so many friends in venezuela. Those are political prisoners for him to be calling the insurrection on january 6. Political prisoners and saying he's going to release them, should really just remind all of us of why he is such a threat. That to democracy and to the constitution and trap doors for donald trump in those kinds of questions which inevitably will and probably should come. He cannot help, but relitigate 2020. He cannot help but talk about january 6 you know, convict or convicted criminals as not talking about hannibal lecter and also jake and dana, jake gas the dumb that type of thing, didn't know dana jake asked those questions during the cnn debate with joe biden, what we can remember that trump answered those who responded. He said he would consider pardoning some of the people on january 6 if they were if the cases came up and they were determined to be held in each case would get a good hard look. He didn't say, pardon everybody. So i think that some of those are going to be asked and answered all the differences that that night of the debate with joe biden. Joe biden was having the worst night of his political career, but trump's not. The questions and he was still reverberating within a way, people doubted that he could be. There was nobody well, because he was he was debating joe biden, who was he wasn't giving me. He wasn't exactly curious, keith, because i was listening to you with your first answer and you've really had a whole litany of things come back, i guess you could call them about trump. What makes you, if anything, nervous about what could happen? on kamala harris's and what she might fall short on tomorrow night well, i think she has a tricky job because on the one hand, yes, she has to sort of be the prosecutor versus felon, but she has to do so in a way that doesn't look like she's too aggressive about it. And i think she has to stay on her message because she could spend all day. I agree with what honest said about factchecking, but she it's been all day factchecking trump, but never give up, never get to her message. So what is her message? you want to be able to anymore? my wife out to be able to pivot from yes, this is not true that we didn't we didn't you didn't win the election, but then talk about the economy, talk about health care, talk about your plan for $25,000 for people who want to buy a home? talk about your plan for $6,000 for people who are just having a new child, talk about your plans to help ordinary people. Those are the issues about your plans for tax cut for familiars and billionaires, which she was asked the question how big? the other thing this, the other example of hypocrisy republicans love talking about deficit spending and the economy they have dental trump comes into office in blows a home pits at seven to $8 trillion onto the national debt. And he a guy with six bankruptcies. And this is the guy you say is the one who is going to be the leader of the economic agenda. 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Which will include long term prison sentences so that this depravity of justice doesn't happen again, he said that threat applies to quote, lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and corrupt election officials. They will be sought out caught, and prosecuted at levels. Unfortunately, never before seen in our country. That's a quote. It's that very threat that trump's allies have said repeatedly, including on this show, doesn't exist this, is the new narrative of via the lemmings in the mainstream me this week, trump wants revenge and mentioned donald trump has been the one that's been very clear that his vengeance is going to be by winning and making america great again, not going after his political opponents. I'm simply saying that president trump has said it himself the best revenge is success actually does actually, senator, i have to you on that because he said room. I know you can't joining us in her fifth seat. Brian stelter, just in time for marco rubio, there's his home state paper, the orlando sentinel, trump threatens to jail adversaries. That's gonna be some news to right there on the front page long. That's a lot of people on the front, florida who are as anna was saying, fleeing regimes that actually did this stuff. And that is why, even though there is a socalled trump discount, there's trump amnesia. These stories should still be front page news. He's practically daring us to make this front page news every day when he says these things but for some reason, it almost seems like everybody's just like, well, it's not gonna happen. Well, it isn't going to happen. And why does he keep saying it? i don't know why. Listen, i wish the president is ana said would talk about the things that matter in peoples kitchen tables, right? the failed bidenharris border policies colomy, inflation, afghanistan, right? there are lots to talk about and we shouldn't be talking about this. But every time we don't talk about them, he's he's detracting from. What he was going to do that and the debate. No. No, no. I really do you need to do to be victorious one of them most ironic. Thanks, donald trump and republicans have been doing it for decades way before. Donald trump calling every democrat who runs a communist and a marxist and donald trump has been doing it consistently against what he did with biden and now he's doing it with kamala harris. Will he calls comrade camila this of putting your opponents, your political opponents in jail is happening right now. And it got iowa just last week, the u. S. Government helped release 135 opposition political prisoners that ortega have put in jail. This is happening right now in venezuela, where maduro has put more and then 2000 opponents in jail, where this weekend, the opposition leader who won the legitimate election that maduro will not accept the results had to flee to spain i take this really seriously and it's really upsetting to me and it's something that we cannot take democracy for granted. We can't just take when the leading candidate republican candidate possibly precedent and former president, is issuing those threats to me they ring like threats i don't see how you cannot take it seriously. He wrote that down. I mean, it's not just a thing that he said off the top of his head was written in a social media message. I would say, you know, you know, the donald trump feels at the exact same thing has been happening to him on the other side the lawfare. Listen, keith, i'm just saying it's been all these cases, all these suits, they've been brought against him. Look, there have been people on this network could say a lot of these suits wouldn't been brought if his name wasn't donald trump's have some very responding voters see that and feel the same way, which is part of why i it resonated across the country. But those are the people that have come down help him went in you your question, you may not like it, but that's the reality to beat backandforth, but you have to remember, you have to have empathy for the people out there across the country who are struggling like empathy for going to interrupt, who are going to the grocery store and are struggling to pay for their groceries for their children who are going and the economy has grappled with i'm incredibly oneandahalf percent 2022. It was over 9%. This is a reality. People are his down inflation we don't have been knocked down to where it was questioned realities. Ask you a question have you ever heard joe biden or kamala harris or anyone in the democratic party leadership say that donald trump should be locked up in jail? yes, actually, a lot of democrats who have never been locked up in jail the dream are you kidding no you had hope it doesn't matter. They know they want to pay the assertions. They want to caucus on this subject. You going what matters, but what he looked like pennsylvania decide this election and 80% of people say economy's number one issue, they're not going to go down you're up to me repeatedly so you're. Not you're not consistent but the point i'm trying to make the madison is that what david said? is that there's a lawfare campaign against president trump, and he's comparing that to what ana said about what's going on in nicaragua, which is not the same at all because there's no leadership that's not what you finish let me finish say there's no there is no leadership in the top of our government who is encouraging the president, the former president, to be locked up. This has happened at separately. These are state and local jurisdictions. Aside, the two federal jurisdictions are handled by an independent counsel and editorinchief. Totally different situation had i mean, the whole thing that we're we're seeing as a country is actually the system working completely independently of some sort of magic can, i mean, you've got in florida case that's basically stalled against trump. Yes. Exactly. Or look at new york right now, taken, take trump out of the picture. Look in new york mayor eric adams, investigation all around his administration, governments working as intended to route out possible corruption. If i can just suggest maybe it's his crazy, but can we complain about the economy? but also denounced political persecution. Thank you. Yeah, we do all of the above. I can't i be worried about grocery prices could also be deeply worried about the idea of person security and peace hold on. That point. I was too madison. Hang on one second because the the new york times poll that we were talking about earlier, here's another interesting stat. It, it says 47% of the country apparently thinks that harris is too liberal progressive 32% think trump is too conservative fast it is fascinating. The question i have is there's pocketbook issues and maybe that falls into the liberal progressive frame. But where do voters place this other stuff? the locking up of the political opponents the things that democrats used to call the democracy argument against trump. You know, i've been, i've been going around the country. I'm doing a document i'm entry for cnn on the latino vote, and i've been going to a bunch of little towns in speaking to people and it's, it's amazing to me that some of the things they tell me it really matters to them are things that are usually not polled, things like tone really matters to them, particularly to women things like the attacks on veterans really matters to people who have served so i think we tried to parse out and we that's what we do for a living. These polls too much. But look, i'm, i'm sold. I remember when hillary clinton had fireworks and balloons ready because all the polls saying, said that she was going to win in 2016. And i remember when we were waiting for a red wave in 2022, that turned out to be a trickle and so i would say folks, let's not obsess about polls. Let's obsess about what we do in the next 56 days between now and november 5 to get the outcome, each of us wants voters aren't paying attention to these concerns about political imprisonment. Than the media should probably pay more attention to these threats these threats are about the core of our democracy. And i understand some trump voters think it's already happening, but then it needs to stop if it is already happening, it needs to stop. Trump's didn't suggest an eye for an eye. All right, guys. Everyone hang on tight. Proof that we're living in strange times well, prominent rightwing republicans are suggesting that migrants are stealing and eating the pets in an ohio city. Cnn has a factcheck for you. 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Vance is now pushing a bizarre conspiracy theory that is taking the right by storm tonight cnn's tom foreman has fact factchecked this claim about haitian immigrants abducting an eating pets in springfield, ohio, tom hey, abby, even in the toxic political climate of our times, this is a wild claim. Republican vice presidential candidate, j. D. Vance, who has railed about a large influx of haitian immigrants into the rhetor middlesize town of springfield, ohio, posted report torch. Now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. And this claim which focuses on kittens and ducks, has exploded in the farright echo chamber, amplified by the trump campaign, conservative commentators senator ted cruz donald trump junior elon musk, and more they are saying and or implying, if you elect vice president kamala harris, her immigration policies will put your pets at risk but to be clear, this allegation against these immigrants is patently false. A farright fever dream which could easily prey upon racist and xenophobic fears. According to springfield city officials, there is no foundation for any of this in a statement they said, we wish to clarify that there had been no credible reports or specific claims of pets being harmed or injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant grant community. Additionally, there have been no verified instances of immigrants engaging in illegal activities, such as squatting, are littering in front of residents, homes furthermore, no reports had been made regarding members of the immigrant community deliberately disrupting traffic yet, when cnn asked vance's office why he is pushing such a blatant lie they said senator vance has received a high volume of calls and emails over the past several weeks from concerned citizens in springfield. His tweet is based on what he is hearing from them but again, there is no truth to what he is hearing. And that is easy to check. Heavy. Tom foreman. Thank you for that. I mean, it's it's amazing because those citizens are hearing conspiracies and then they're calling jd vance's office at instead of telling them, sir, ma'am, this isn't true. He's tweeting that it's true and it's not. One other thing we finally found cat, ladies, that j. D. Vance does not hate well i mean, i guess it resembles the amount of time we have spent in the last eight weeks of which his campaign says j. D. Vance, got it, elected, talking about cats that's i mentioned rfk is bear cubs or whatever and the world i was watched. I was reading a story in npr about this town and yes, they've received a couple of thousand, many thousands of migrants into a town that's been losing population but the story talks about the migrants attending mass because they're devout catholics. I and then you have this kind of conspiracy. I mean, it is racist. Of course, it's racist and that's why it's so problematic about it, because you know, the width tom foreman story is set up. It's kind of lighthearted, but i mean, this is really problematic because you're putting in people's lives in danger that the haitian immigrants in the community and haitian immigrants up throughout the country who may now be targeted because of these things that are considered jokes. Remember the whole what was it, the comment pizzas scandal, whatever the hilary putnam supposedly involved with susan running a child sex pornography ring out of out of a pizza joint. That's the kind of stuff promote, then you have on top of that what happened? what do you remember showed up with a guy exactly. Rescue the victims of the sex rank being run out of a basement. And this is the shop that did not have a basis. And brian, i mean, look at some of these i, guess now, they're memes, but you can see that this has been elon musk, stephen miller, ted cruz, official congressional committees? yes. Are are tweeting this stuff out hasn't become a meme or is it just running a concern it's a meme anticonspiracy. These people can always say, oh, i'm just joking, were just having having fun, but they're also pushing a racist lie. And what they're doing is they're shouting the lie so loudly that they're hoping that their feelings will only be heard and the facts will never catch up, right? the local reporting, the local police, the reality will never catch up to the lie. That's being shown in the meme. And i find this is what happens when you put your feelings over for facts. People feel something's happening. There's no evidence for it, but the feelings are winning out over the fact that impression background, review age, there, there wasn't actual video going around of someone eating a cat, which was actually two weeks ago in my hometown of canton, ohio. Not a haitian migrant, not in springfield, ohio that could post on the internet. And obviously, people were saying it was something it was not. And that's what started this whole firestorm on twitter and across, across the web. But when you talk about springfield specifically, i spoke earlier this evening with lieutenant governor john houston and ohio who visited springfield, who talked to a lot of the residents and a lot of people now are saying, hey, these people hate haitians. There's a lot of animosity and that's simply not the case. There's that she a lot of empathy for these people that have come in that have immigrated to springfield. They're talking about the fact that they have concerns and i think serious ones about immigration without assimilation, a lot of the people can't read the traffic signs. A young 11yearold boy was killed as a result of it is about that i'm not here to defend but i made extremely reasonable argument. Let's have that conversation that is not what does how i'm not worried about the people in springfield, ohio because they don't seem to be the problem. I'm worried about elon musk with his platform of 100 million people who are however many people were rages. I'm worried about j. D vance and presidential candidate and the united states good about ted cruz, the senator from texas. These are powerful people all associated with republican party spreading a racist lie using their power to potentially other people. Vance taken that tweet down. I don't know. I mean, you shouldn't do it it's obviously it's something you could check pretty quickly, right? i mean, it's been a lesson that everybody should garnet everybody knows around this table. You know, before you forward an email or a tweet, maybe it maybe look at peeled back a little bit, save the crazy, they are the less cynical to say that he and the trump campaign, they don't care that this isn't true. I don't think it's i think at this point it's kinda moved down to the meme form like brian tsay, were there well, ducts and fuzzy giddens and has anybody ever seen donald trump hold a pet with any level of i mean, that's neither here nor there, but things that donald trump would cuddle weather. I've seen him everywhere. He does anyone kindell, tiffany i've seen become. Okay. All right. Everybody hold on. Coming up next. We've got some breaking news about rfk jr. And his impact on this election standby for that have i got. News for you? premiere saturday at nine on cnn life is better with the credit god's on your side rewards once bailable to the few are now accessible to the many credit one bank get cashback rewards. And liz large you're a small business owner. You don't have time to waste. That's why you go to bizou credit for funding our simple application makes it easy to get fast financing, time for funding it's time for biz to credit she you were made to chase you the passions. 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A natural vegetable active ingredient in gentle dependable seneca, also available in delicious gummies how long have you been here i don't know what did he say what is this place watch years now, streaming exclusively on max we've got some breaking news on the election front. The michigan supreme court is ruling that rfk jr. Will stay on the ballot. That's despite his efforts to get off the ballot since he backed donald trump and in another battleground state, north carolina, his name will be removed from the ballot mixed bag here. David, they get his mixed bag. Look, presumably like him off the ballot, right? i don't know if it helps be on the ballot or off the balance. And the truth, right. Does it help you beat on the bell? does he take votes away from kamala harris being on the belt is taken the ballot? as he and perhaps the trump campaign believed that at this point he's only pulling votes that could potentially go to trump i don't know if that's true or not. You know, maybe they have data that shows that. But look, i mean, it it'll be it'll be miniscule. I think that he's he's got obviously out there, you know, kind of campaigning and working hard for former president trump and the campaign. And so it is, it's kind of a netnet there, right? yeah. Oneonone off and what woods have to wait and see when they lived in florida in 2001, minuscule amount of illicit either the election isn't a minuscule amount because in these states, especially like michigan and wisconsin, pennsylvania and yeah, we're talking probably 50,000 votes will decide these each of these states. We can probably a lot more we just got to say goodbye 11,000 11,000 a game of inches. Alright, everyone separately. Another of trump's rivals turned supporters now is telling him that he needs to change the way that he talks about women listen i think it's because donald trump and j. D. Vance need to change the way they speak about women. You don't need to call camila dm. She didn't get this far just by accident. She's here. That's what it is. She's a prosecutor. You don't need to go and talk about intelligence or less folks or anything else just focus on the policies when you call even a democrat woman dumb republican women get their backs up to it's so interesting because nikki haley has not been many places since the rnc where she spoke. But when she has come out, it's been kind of criticize trump and his campaign. That's quite the surrogate that's constructive criticism. That was constructive criticism. Want it's not something that hasn't been said before. I mean, i think when you go across the country and i last saturday sitting in ohio the women's lunch and talking to women that i know that do feel the way that she said and they've been saying it for years that they liked his policies on x, y, and z, but they don't love the tone. I mean, even relatives of mine say that sometimes they're not thrilled, but the tone, so it really comes down to at the end of the day, what will sway their votes? is it going to be tone or is it going to be policy? and i would argue that in most cases it would be policy but maybe tone, but in most i think it's policy, but that's the tough part about this gonna be this debate, right? he's going to have to find a way to attack kamala harris is policies without attacking kamala harris, right? it'd be about attack the vice president that the harris, the bidenharris, like any ternell up to that, but their lives you have to be able to attack her policies. Is that looking like you're attacking her personally? say listen, i think your policy stick your nice person. I think you know, you almost have that almost has to be the subtext to all of this, right? and so it's a very tough needle for him to thread. Let me tell you how i think it's more likely to go communist camila, you're a marxist, you're not even black. You're done and you're laughing hyena. Other than that, how was the play let's hope it doesn't go. That's hoping like, well, tell me about your positions on the border and guns and fracking let's explain that more. I think that the message from a lot of his surrogates is exactly that. As far as the dickey haley's concern? she keeps implying that even though she's endorsed trump, he's really not the candidate that she wants. Her to be. Yes. Yeah. Because she's thinking about 20:20 or even 2032 for all we know. She's trying to maintain and mend fences, thinking ahead for years, i think we know trump's not going to change. I'm more interested in what is it about? trump's behavior the way he talks about women that appeals to some people. What is it about the misogyny that appeals to voters, or why do they accept, i mean, does there are many millions of men that are not just okay with the late talks about minimax. It appeals to some men and that interesting. That's what we have to deal with as the election i said, i don't know follow my twitter feed. All, every time i posted anything. They all all the racism, sexism, and all the other big it's come out and attack me and i know those are the people who support donald trump's. So i know that swap twitter feeds. I know, i know that they love that i talked to a lot of trump people. I mean and brian, you can weigh in the trump case has been they're just going to bring out new people. They're going to bring more white man out of the woodwork. That's why this is all going to add. New people. You get the base she have to say there's at 47 and percent 48% ceiling, right where trump is and maybe that's enough. I mean, i keep here's what here's what i reflect on right? despite knowing all this, despite the guys flaws, his warts, all these terrible things. He's in a dead heat. Is it a dead heat? he may be the president again because that's how terrible this administration terrible they can i say something, but this is what really bothers me when we have this discussion. I never really talked about this because there's not politically correct to say it. But he's like dented because of white people i mean, the majority of white people support donald trump and they have supported him in 2016, he supported him in 2020. They'll probably support him in 2024 if it were up to black people are like you know, as an asian americans and other people of color, he would lose in a land needs to be pleased about protecting white supremacy and that's what the rest that's what we're talking about iq that people are talking about economic the idea 2016, i think trump went off and he played a question. I didn't say if that is your theory. Hundred percent sure. That's your theory. Yes. Then to answer what urban is asking, why then is trump improving with voters of color? he's not improving with voters no i'm sorry if he's not in front of you. I understand that he has done better in better than the other candidates have done is placed on his 2016 performance in 2020. And the polls suggest he's improving now even go by 2020 day than i don't want to washington post ipsos poll that came out today said that he's actually losing support in the black vote. Black and he's actually come a harris is gaining support. The third party candidates are declining in their support. So grinds the screen with, you clearly growing support. And this isn't just nighttime, it's about but as he has will be surprised like donald trump rioter with latinos and blacks that he did in 2016, than he did in 2020. Listen what do i hear? i hear it will tell me that they like how they liked his mouth. Some people. But what turns me off turn some people on. They think he's being authentic. They think he's being unfiltered. They think he's tough through they think he stands up for what he believes. So it antagonizes most latinos intact most african americans. But certainly there are some people for whom that's exactly my point that i was when i was trying to get is that yes, there are there are there are a significant number of people of color who support donald trump, but that's still a small, small minority especially in the black community. You're talking about 85 to 90% of black people will support kamala harris, that even among black men. So the idea that somehow that donald trump is winning with rfk when you're talking about i agree with you on the margins in states where latinos are, you know, five, 6% in georgia, there fire. Understand yes. I'm not i'm not saying that can't make the difference. I'm just saying that we're misrepresenting who these communities are to pick a few unrepresentative black men and say, oh black men are supporting donald trump when 85 to 90% of black minutes, according black man to be clear, we didn't say that at this table. Know i'm not saying i'm just saying that, but but i think at this point is correct that there is even if it's a slightly only takes a to make a huge difference, it only takes i just want to say additional white dominant. It's also about preserving the status of men and we shouldn't tear again, what is it that appeals? i'm not perfect. I learned some of this stuff since i was five or 6yearsold men in this society are in a very interesting place right now with what the messaging is from the trump campaign. And i just think that's worth interrogate. All right, everyone stick with us because coming up next the panel will give us their night caps, including a tribute to the man who gave cnn kamala harris, donald trump the debate. 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And i think what we saw last night in miami, right before the dolphins game as this athlete, this black athlete was in his luxury car, was frankly racism and it cannot be tolerated by the miami police department as a miamidade resident, i am demanding full accountability and i am incredibly hurt that it was latino officers who did this to tyreek hill i just, you know, i think it's outrageous. I think it's embarrassing. I think it's hurtful. And i think there needs to be very strong comes to the video is really shocking, you know, in your left feeling, a feeling if it can happen to him he said that tonight. It is pretty baffling. Look, the stadium is right around the corner. Guy couldn't have been gone. I mean, it's congested traffic, wasn't going to 110 miles an hour. I'm not i'm not quite sure. You know, he says i watched them earlier with kaitlin said, you know, i'd put up my window. I was embarrassed. I don't want to fans going by to take pictures, want to get in because it's wondering hey, my ticket and go home, i'll put my window backup because people would snap photos and me getting a ticket. And so there's an explanation i think a little more copies had broke. Just give me the ticket seemed a little bit overlay. All right. David, your take as well? on my hot take is no. So kamala harris is in is in my hometown of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. For this this whole week, kind of hold up the hotel and she makes it makes a decision to go out. So it's a conscious decision to go out into the community and we do those kinds of things. You do these off the record, stops or go to visit a place that community good place it's celebrates commute someplace that's hometown muffin shopper, a pizza place, where kamala harris chose to go to a place that's not only has the owners posted antisemitic remarks on twitter, but it's a place that they've had accused amount of controversy regarding race he's the owner had all republicans are racists two blast it out to his customers. And if you're kamala harris, she, you know, she's said what she's standing in the store. We have to end this division in the country. We have to end this. So why do you choose that store to go to if you're gonna end of business, a store that divides people the city of pittsburgh, you google it, you can figure out that's not the place to go. Why did she go there? saying, alright, keith, you're turn, i guess like nick fuentes having lunch or dinner with without donald trump. Anyway in texas, in beyonce, but they beyonce got snubbed at the country music awards this year. Because she had one of the top selling albums of the year. She's obviously a black woman artist. And unfortunately the country music awards, the cmas don't seem to respect black women that way in part because if you look back at the history just last year, was the first time a black woman ever want anything that was tracy chapman for a song that she wrote 35 years ago that just want to reward because the white man luke combs made a cover of it. I think it's a reflection of how black people who are responsible for creating country music and brought the banjo to the united states from africa. Have our history ignored? alright, madison nfl is back, but potentially the biggest snub of the senate little wayne was not chosen for the super bowl halftime show this year. They chose kendrick lamar, holly grove zone, best rapper alive. Little wayne, needs to be included in that performance. 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