Tonight on 360 would just four days until the debate. The former president spends the better part of a campaign day in court or in front of the cameras lashing out at his female accusers, including the woman who took him to court and won also tonight, vice president harris, the new support she's getting from another big name republican, but also the issue that could cause oh, sorry, trouble with voters in pennsylvania. And later as the alleged georgia school shooter's father has his first day in court everything we're learning about the case and the two students and two teachers whose lives were taken good evening. Thanks for joining us. We begin tonight with the former president campaign politics, his legal troubles and lies he finished his day in charlotte, north carolina where the fraternal order of police endorsed him and he had this to say about a violent attack on nancy pelosi's husband you know that nancy pelosi is a big wall wrapped around her house. Of course, it didn't help too much with the problem she had. That that's the former president is speaking to members of law enforcement, making light and the first time i should point out of the violent attack against paul pelosi, a home invader beat mr. Pelosi with a sledgehammer and fractured his skull. The man admitted that he was planning to hold nancy pelosi hostage and quote, break her kneecaps and quote, if she did not confess to whatever he wanted to hear. Now that's what the former president was talking about to police, the near killing of a political rivals husband donald trump came close to being shot in the head and had a neardeath experience and got a second lease on life. And this is what he's doing with it. Earlier today. He was in new york and federal court appealing his sexual abuse and defamation judgment. And afterwards, he you talked about it. Take a look. His lawyers were behind him as he talked about e. Jean carroll, who jury determined he's sexually abused and defamed. He said and i quote, i never met the woman other than this picture which could have been a. I. Generated? i don't i don't know. Show up out of nowhere, but it's fine. Nice picture now keeping them honest, the photo that he was talking about, this photo is real and the president knows it's real because he discussed in detail under oath during a 2022 deposition, mistaken carroll for his wife at the time, marla maples. Now, in addition to carol, he also lashed out at several other accusers, including jessica leeds who says trump groped her on a flight 1970s. It couldn't have happened, it didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one. He said, remarks like that have earned this assessment today from former republican congresswoman liz cheney. Dick cheney will be voting for kamala harris. You know, my dad believes and he's said publicly that there's never been an individual in our country who is as grave a threat to our democracy as donald trump is i was liz cheney today, yesterday, she announced she will be voting for vice president harris today. She said that her dad, former vice president dick cheney, will be doing the same and we'll have more on that shortly. There was one other thing that donald trump said today that i want to point out because it involves me and he seemed to imply something that is unfounded. He was talking as he he has before about an interview that e. Jean carroll did with me back on june 24, 2019 then there was an anderson cooper interview where she said essentially, no, he didn't rape me she's selling a book he wrote a book. The book would have been a total failure, probably was anywhere they'll probably sell more recently. Again, does a woman that wasn't doing well? until she came out with this stuff about me and that's happened to others do by the way, that she's not the only one but the anderson cooper tape and the interesting cooper tape, it's an interview of her and cooper says something to the effect, did he rape you? did he rape you? he was so happy. Oh, did he rape you? and she gave a very good answer for me but a bad answer for cnn for anderson and he said, we're going to commercial break right now. We're going then she came back from commercial bank and she was much more hostile. But this man wouldn't let us use the tape or the proper questions having to do with the tape, would lead us to judge judge kaplan would let it be used we wanted to get the outtakes. In other words, what did anderson cooper talked to her about doing that intermission for a commercial that he called for immediately. What do you see this? i mean, some of you have seen it, some of you haven't we're going to commercial break right now and so what happened is we weren't able to use it okay. So this is not the first time that trump has seemed to suggest some nefarious plot by me to manipulate e. Jean carroll into saying something. He actually brought this up in a deposition for trial now, i normally don't respond to when trump says something about me. I mean, what is the point he recently referred to me using a female first name, which i guess is the third grade gay taunt. I think he called me allison are actually cooper. I don't really recall. It's not worth replying to, but this time it's different because it's just kind of just demonstrably false. First, i just want to show you what it is he's round i'm lying about. This was part of my interview with e. Jean carroll that took place on my show on cnn in two blocks to segments, separated by a commercial break. Now this is what you would have seen if that night you were watching at home or wherever we went to commercial and then came back from commercial. We're not going to actually play the entire commercial break. You would have been watching to take i was not thrown on the ground and ravish, which the more rape carries so many sexual connotation. This was not this was not sexual for just it hurt. It just it just, you know, i think most people think of raping as i mean, it is a violent assaulted is not i think most people say of rape as being sexy let's take a short break in the fantasies we're going to take a quick break if you can stick around, we'll talk more on the other side. Your fascinating to talk to cancer is the ugliest disease mankind has ever faced. We're now in my conversation with e jean carroll and the president's latest denial of her sexual violence allegations against him. He said, quote, she's not my type. He's also said previously he did not know her, had never met her even though they had in fact met. She's the one on the left along with her husband, a local news anchor at the time, and the president is wife at the time. Ivana. The president has also say, said flat out that she is lying so that commercial break, which we only just played a snippet of the commercial, ran four minutes long. So the former president, it seems to be suggesting that something we discussed her that i discussed with e. Jean carroll during a fourt minute long commercial break that you would have been watching at home made ms carroll changed her tone toward him? not sure her tone actually changed after the second bloc of the interview. But that's besides the point the problem with this conspiracy theory is that this interview was actually prerecorded and we had to prerecord a toss to a commercial break and then welcome viewers back after commercial break. So that the entire to parts of the interview would fit into my show that night. So when you do that, when you interview someone for however many minutes and then you toss to a break that will later be inserted into the broadcast. You don't sit there for the entire four minutes of the commercial break with the guests just waiting to then come back to the show because it's prerecorded. You don't have to sit there during commercial break. You just take a few seconds, you make sure that control room is still recording. You welcome viewers back as if you've just come out of a commercial break and you continue with the interview. And that's exactly what i do with e. Jean carroll. And i know this because we have the tape so while trump is currently suggesting, i sat through a commercial break on live tv with e. Jean carroll telling her to be angry or whatever. We actually just paused in a prerecorded interview for a few seconds. And if you don't believe me, here's the raw, unedited video of what was actually being recorded. And you will hear exactly what i said in the few seconds. It took me to resume the interview we've got to take a quick break if you can stick around and we'll talk more on the other side. Your fascinating to talk to right? we come back okay so before the break you said you don't use the word rape so that was the entire break. So when donald trump is saying was a fourminute break, i'm that i'm talking to each and carol you just saw the break and that weird look i have is how i could talk my control room. What i'm saying. Okay, we good. We coming back. Okay? i'm talking to a producer in the control room. He's talking to me in my earpiece right here, making sure that we're good on time. We're still recording and i can immediately resume the interview. That's what happened in this break in the interview that trump was once again talking about today joining us now former trump campaign adviser david urban politicos, meridith mcgraw, former democratic national committee communications director no elleithee and former federal prosecutor, jeffrey toobin. So meredith trump has been consistently criticized by people in his own party for not staying on message just today alone. He's lashed out at several of his accusers, made fun of the brutal attack. Nancy pelosi's husband. And went after vice president harris during remarks in north carolina, which i just want to play right now. Kamala harris destroyed san francisco she destroyed california. Now she's destroying america. She will destroy this country. She will destroy this country and now that people are seeing what's going and nobody knew who the hell she was. In all fairness, she was vice president that nobody knew. She shouldn't have been vice president. And if they call threat to democracy is a threat to democracy the way they call me threat. I'd take a bullet in the head and i'm a threat. No, no. She's at threat to democracy so what do you think he's trying to accomplish here? well, again and again, we hear from trump's advisors, from allies who say that trump needs to be sticking to the message, needs to be talking more about policy. And they have events where he's clearly set up to do just that, whether it's talking about inflation or whether it's talking to the police about crime. And yet he goes off on these tangents. And today, we clearly saw donald trump agitated when he called this press conference to talk about the appeals case. And donald trump is down in the polls with women and going on national television to talk about these accusations that have made, been made by women against it's tam of sexual assault or harassment at a time when he is down in the polls. I just don't see how that is politically helpful to him. Just a day after the assassination attempt against him, trump posted on truth, social saying it is more important than ever that we stand united and show our true characters americans a reminder that trump suggested the comments calling him a threat to democracy is what led to the assassination attempt. Yet here he is today calling harris a threat to democracy i mean do you think is this planned out? do you think this is just all off the cuff far be it for me to try to crawl inside donald trump's head and make sense of some of the things he says and does but he stood up there today at a press conference pardon me? a press conference usually means he's going to take questions. He didn't take any questions. So we stood up there today at this event, which was essentially a nearly hour long festivus greed airing of grievances just as voters are getting ready to cast. The first ballots of this election early voting, mailin ballots and what they heard from the former president today was him talking about whether or not he litigating the definition of rape versus assault you heard him today talk about whether certain women were hot enough for him to assault this at this point in the campaign, a campaign is supposed to either persuade voters or mobilize your base. I don't see how what he did today helped with either case and just made that small sliver of undecided voters out there. Remember why they were so uncomfortable with him? yeah. I just want to play what he actually said about jessica leeds not being the chosen one frankly, i know you're going to say it's a terrible thing to say, but it couldn't have happened. It didn't happen and she would not have been the chosen one. She would not have been the chosen one. So david, i know, you and i've talked about this before. You are often telling the former president to focus on policy and record and stuff was today a good day? well, listen, andrew the president's best, what he's talking about is accomplishments, he's best talking about the record of the, you know, his past four years in office and he's worse what he's talking about, personal grievances today, he was very upset we saw that standing in trump tower during the press conference he was venting, leaving off steam and it's not helpful like most said, at this point in the campaign, you want to be reminding folks why to vote for you write all the good things that the trump administration and accomplished and contrast those with the four years of the bidenharris administration. If donald trump keeps if he talks about those things and focuses on those things the abc poll just showed that was out recently, it was longitudinal prior to the dnc and after the dnc convention that donald trump leads in polls by about ten points, about ten points nationwide on the economy, on immigration, on inflation, on crime, on the things that people care about. He needs to remind people are mine voters. Early voters, late voters. All voters that he's the person that can deliver on the things that are most important to them. And if he's not doing that, then he's not winning. Jeff. Let's talk about what happened in the hush money case today. That russia and delayed the sentencing until after the election. The judge wrote the imposition of sentence will be adjourned to avoid any parents whoever unwarranted that the proceeding has been affected by or seeks to affect the approach in presidential election which the defendant is a candidate is this significant in terms of the case itself? well, i think it is a little significant in the sense that you know, he he is not yet sentence in this case isn't over plus marshawn still has to decide how the supreme court's decision in the immunity case that they decided at the end of the last trial affects this case. And there is still the possibility that he might throw out the verdict in the hush money case an order, a new trial, because evidence was admitted. That was on proper under the new standard. But anderson, i just think it is worth pausing to wreck big night, how donald trump has successfully neutralize all four criminal cases against him. This case will not be sentenced in well after the trial the florida case has been thrown out entirely, though that's on appeal. The georgia case is a walltowall disaster for the prosecution, and he just showed there's no sign of going to trial. The january 6 case is now bogged down in in pretrial proceedings that may not lead to a trial even in 2025 so donald trump had a very good day today legally, as far as judge marshawn is concerned and he has had a lot of good news. On these four indictments, which none of which are going to go to trial or even be close to resolve before the election. Toobin. Thank you, meridith mcgraw and mo elleithee as well. David urban, stay with us. We're gonna talk about a pennsylvania and fracking in a moment more in the election, including an indepth report on how that issue of fracking may affect vice president harris has chances and most winning pennsylvania plus what the debate just four days away, we'll go to our john king at the magic wall for the latest in the state of play in those battleground states when you're the leader is disaster clean up and restoration. How do you make like it never even happened, happened rabanne there's a pro for them. Serve, grow, like you've never even happened just what relax. Your book does event have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping seine discover the power of weekold janan to the fbi the gobi, i lost 35 pounds and some lost over 46 pounds we go and i'm keeping the weight off we go be helps you lose weight and keep it off i'm reducing my risk. We gouvia is the only fda approved weight management medicine that's proven true. 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It helps explain why vice president harris position on the issue of fracking has become so consequential. Foreign president trump has repeatedly said she will ban it. This is what she said in an exclusive interview last week with their dana bash do you still want to ban fracking know and i made that clear on the debate stage in 2020 that i would not ban fracking as vice president, i did not ban fracking as president. I will not ban fracking fracking is a sensitive issue, obviously in pennsylvania, it's a method of extracting oil and gas that critics say harms the environment. However, it also involves billions in revenue and tens of thousands of jobs back in 2019 when she first ran for president harris vocally opposed edge during a cnn climate crisis town hall there's no question. I'm in favor of banning fracking and starting and starting with what we can do on day one around public lands she moved away from that stance when she's really became biden's running mate. In fact, both the president and pennsylvania democratic senator john fetterman, had to change positions after previously opposing fracking as well, both one in pennsylvania. Question is, can vice president harris bill weir went there to talk to voters? in the southwest corner of pennsylvania thousands of fracking wells, snake into the hillsides, squirting water and chemicals down, catching the methane gas coming up, and making record profits for the corporations that own them but while fracking provides only a fraction of the state's 6 million jobs, here in appalachia, it is easy to find folks devoted to fossil fuels and donald trump when kamala harris says she has no intention of banning fracking, what do you make of that? i don't believe her i don't blame her because you can't change your mind just because you want to be the president. Fracking is an issue whether it's pennsylvania or any place else in the country i believe it's good not only for the economy i believe it's good for us to get money moneys, part of fracking at the same time, there are millions of pennsylvania as opposed to frack and not just weeks. The voters who know this invisible gas helps overheat the planet. But families here in appalachia forced to live with fracking literally in their backyard. And the host of health concerns that comes with that, young families don't want to stay here. They're frightened it's about the health of their children and their futures that they're providing for their families haven't since key kerss grew up here. And points to a university of pittsburgh study which found that children living within a mile of a fracking site at higher risk of lymphoma according to state records, fracking fluid is fouled or poisoned over 400 private wells and water supplies was and what it began spring like this outside jody borello is house three times a day for years her children broke out and rashes and she joined the nonprofit center for coal field justice. If you would've asked me 15 years ago about the environment or my opinion on the environment i probably would not have had one, but i was unfortunately given a gas well, it was placed about 1,200 feet from my home. They explain that, talk about a fracking ban only helps the gas industry what they really want is sensible regulation and enforcement neither candidate is coming here and talking to people about, does this hurt you? are you okay how are your kids doing or any chance that you'll be able to get your natural water, by never, never. Liz pebbly says that after her well was fouled by the fracking pad next door, the company bought or water tech and offered to install a filter sure. But with a catch and i understand that if you were to accept their offer to put in a waterfilter, you would have had to sign away all your rights, correct. To talk about this about it any health problems, could arise in the future, you wouldn't they wouldn't be responsible. Her neighbor, tammie yoder, shares her frustration and lends support. Did you think at the beginning when they came that the community would get richer as a result, we're just such a small community. It's like right? we feel like we don't matter that's going to be frustrated it? is. And we we do matter where people went will you vote in the presidential election? yes. Yes can i ask who you vote for harris? were you democrats before or yeah. Lifelong. Yeah. Republican. You're republican and you're going the other way? yes. Why? because she behaves more likely aside from the fracking issue? yes. Yeah hillary clinton wrote that her biggest regret of the 2016 campaign it. Was. Promising to put coal mines and miners out of business while kamala harris is actually in pittsburgh preparing for the debate this weekend, anderson, she's supposed to actually visit the surrounding communities. So we'll see if she has they can thread the needle with empathy, maybe a promise of more regulation for those folks who are considered frackers, bad neighbors here. But of course they're running against she is running against a man who's promising fossil fuel whatever they want thanks very much back with us, david urban also joining us, our chief national correspondent, john king and cnn host michael smerconish. David, i think you were just in pennsylvania with the foreign president last week meeting with oil and gas workers. What did they tell you? yeah. Anderson not surprisingly, i asked them and their colleagues are about 140 folks up on the stage. If they believed the kamala harris had changed her position on fracking and not one of them felt that way and they weren't even involved directly in the extraction of gas. These folks were involved in in constructing still buildings, go around the wellheads and support of the oil and gas industry. Anderson, the oil and gas industry in pennsylvania provides not only jobs have provides hope there are no steel mills come in. Boeing's not relocating a plant there when when oil and gas is go in big, it is good times across the commonwealth pennsylvania, those communities flourish, will have jobs and in a place where jobs and hope is scarce you know, taking that away from folks is really devastating. Michael. What do you think is the biggest issue for pennsylvania voters? i mean, where does fracking line that? i think that it receives out sides detention. I think it's a significant issue, but i think that there's a perception particularly from a national perspective looking into pennsylvania, that it's a referendum on a particular candidacy, that it's a be all end. It's an endall and i don't agree with that i think that the problem for vice president kamala harris is her change of position, not necessarily where she ended up because it just furthers this narrative of political expediency. There's an axios report today about her candidacy not receiving scrutiny and it identifies nine different issues where she's either changed her position has an unknown position to the extent that her fracking perspective furthers that perception, it's problematic, but let me just remind my good friend david urban, i'm in those philly burbs and there's nobody fracking here. So the attention always goes to those who are dependent upon the fracking industry. But where the race matters most people or more concerned about the environment what john, what are the numbers show well, anderson, let me try to split the difference between my two esteemed colleagues here. Hold on one second, david, i just want to split the difference to my two esteemed colleagues. Here's the map of pennsylvania. Let me bring up this map. The darker, the shading you see on the map here are the counties where there are more fracking, more oil and gas extraction job. So let me just draw a line here. The deeper shading up here across the state, i'm going to come down and draw it's not perfect, but you see the line right there. Now, this is where you have those oil and fracking jobs around 30,000 jobs, maybe closer to 20,000 jobs depending on as david noted, there's some drills their support jobs around it. It's not a ton of jobs mathematically, but there's where they are. Now, let's come out and let's come back to the map of the 2020 election flexion that's mostly trump country. That's trump country. So why as michael said with the vice president, take the risk of changing her position and being called a flipflopper. While remember, she did it in 2020 to be on the ticket with joe biden? so yes, it's about maybe let's say in a place like here, washington county, this is where bill weir was in the south part of state trump wins with 61%. Joe biden in pennsylvania when it's so close, if you can change the margins, if you get to 38%, 39%, you're helping yourself a little bit, but i would argue it's about more than that. It's about trying to show respect with hillary clinton did not for people who work with their hands, not just in the oil and gas industry. Let me show you this. I want to take the lines away, so it's not so confusing. This is the wind margin in pennsylvania in 2020 see the lighter shading here. Michael just mentioned the suburbs, he knows them as well, if not better than i do, this is bucks county, the more blue collar philadelphia suburb, no more blue collar of the collar counties. Joe biden won that by the least, he went all those suburban counties, but he won that by the least then you move up period in north hampton county. It was a tie. What do you find in these places? look over here at lehigh county where allentown is a margin, but not as big as in the philadelphia suburbs same and monroe and over here, i just want to get to lackawanna that scranton that's where joe biden was born. He wins. You say that's a healthy margin, but it's not as big. Look how deep the blue is down in philadelphia. And the more affluent suburbs. What are you saying when you say i want to pose for agi, i get michael. She's open to the charge on flipflop. But what he's trying to do is not repeat hillary clinton's mistake until these people as well, you work with your hands. I respect what you do. David, you were wondering, say something. Yeah. Anderson, i was going to say that too. Michael. Listen, it's not the beall endall, but the difference is elections are about addition, one plus one plus one. And these margins in these counties, as john pointed out and washington county was 60% i think john is what you pointed out, but, you know, if trump, if trump gets 70%, 75% in these counties, that's an extra few hundred votes and in 60 counties are 40 counties that fracking. And if you look at the other 60 counties up that are read a couple of hundred votes, that's the difference in this race. I agree that the philly in the burbs he can't lose that. Bye, bye. Cute much and it's obviously good for kamala east of there. There's a road, a differentiates philadelphia from the rest of the state called city line avenue. If you go west to cbi and avenue fracking doesn't really matter. Fracking matters. Eastern city line is philly. It doesn't matter. So she's got to thread the needle, but it's going to be very difficult for i think michael, how was i mean, fetterman and able and biden both reverse their positions so that didn't seem i mean, obviously didn't stop them from winning right, this is the playbook and it's not only fetterman does not only biden, but i think if you take a look at governor josh shapiro and compare his record as attorney general. I think there was also a pivot on his part, so pennsylvania's have been receptive to exactly what vice president kamala harris is doing if she were in town hi, going to stick toward the industry. It would be a problem for her. She has problems in pennsylvania. I just don't think this one is at the top of the list. Michael smerconish, david urban, thanks very much. 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So what are the candidates paths to 270 right now? anderson, the stakes heading this debate are just so enormous because the race has just so close look, we had six battleground state polls out yesterday. This is our map right now to 270 the yellow states are the tossup states. There are seven of them plus the second congressional district in nebraska where our polling tell us harris leads outside the margin in michigan outside the margin, wisconsin doesn't mean she's going to win them. There's still competitive, but let's give them to her for now right there. Trump led outside the margin in arizona, again, doesn't mean he's going to win it, but let's give him that that gets you to 252 to 30. I'm going to lean north carolina, read democrats are getting mad at me right now because there is some polling showing harris maybe slightly ahead there until i want to see more data. I'm just going to lean it right, because that's where it's been in every election since 2008. And in many before that, if you do that here's where you are. Let's say for the sake of argument, donald trump gets georgia back and kamala harris can hold onto nevada, which has been mostly a democratic state, even though it's tough right now, what's that gets you to 62 to 56 nebraska would get whoever gets at one more. It would all come down to pennsylvania. Let's flip this scenario for the sake of argument. Harris does well in the suburbs like joe biden, she holds georgia, but the economic hardships after covid and nevada cause it to go back to donald trump. Same idea to 66 to 52, somebody gets that one. It still comes down to pennsylvania. That's where we are. I can give you other scenarios where pennsylvania doesn't matter. But as this plays out, the reason both campaigns are spending way more money there than anywhere else is because they think it is what's going to tip the scales and how is the former president doing in battleground states compared to when he ran in 2016 and 2020. This is the most remarkable thing i find about donald trump for all the volatility in our politics and all the volatility in him that you played in that segment at the top of the program, which was breathtaking by the way, look at donald trump in these volatile times in all the tumbled, we've had in american politics. He's a straight line. He's at 49% in arizona or new poll. He was at 49% in arizona. That's the result in 2020. That was the result in 2016 in georgia, this is the one slight aberration, 474951. If you look at these six battleground states, two elections that have been settled, these are the final results and in our polling here donald trump has never gotten the majority, except for in georgia, wants, once he's the 47, 48, occasionally 49 guy. Now, that's significant. Get you close to 50. But if you're kamala harris, you're thinking, i need to get to 49 point. What you want to get to 50. But what is it and how strong in 2016, the third party candidates? made the difference when joe biden get out of the race, one of the reasons robert f. Kennedy left the race is because support for thirdparty candidates plummeted. So if you look at donald trump for all the tunnels in our politics in the battleground states he's essentially a flat line. So harris knows what she needs to be. Now, in some cases, it's 47, 49%. That's hard to be, but at least, you know what the target is. I think we only have like 40 seconds life is succeeding and solidifying the democratic base. So one question, yes, the answer is yes, she's made enormous progress improving on joe biden's position. Here's one thing i want to show you, just to watch out in the west, she has some troubles with latino voters in the battleground states of pennsylvania and georgia were black votes matters in our polling, she's learning a little bit behind where biden wasn't 2020 right now, i want to point this out. It's a smaller subset of voters, so the margin of error is large. So i'm not saying this is, these numbers could be a little bit better polling should not answer your questions. You should raise your questions. So when i run our poll, i said, okay, let's watch this to see if in other polls these numbers are a little bit higher. It might not be a problem, but it's something the harris campaign they need this turnout, so they're going to keep an eye on that all right. John king, thanks so much fascinating, appropriate. Excuse me, a programming reminder. 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Yes, she did her husband suggested that she go back to college to do something she loved after she immigrated to the united states. And that was in 2012. And she began in january 2013. In and she did the best she could i mean, english was her second language and she only ever had one b and that was in physics what do you think it was about, about teaching that she loves? i know i know she had struggles with infertility and that she told you she's that it's okay because the students are my kids. I think it was the hope of the future for her that she loved. I think just teaching people are children something she loved. She she didn't want a bad connotation on math. She told dotting that her goal as a teacher was to have students to love math she told him what she would tell him constantly. He shared this. He said you know, she would come home after work and work on grading papers and whatever and he would ask her to come join him and should be like, please let me just finish i'm so invested. I want my kids to the not only learn math, but to love it, to love to study, to love the material. And i think that's what she wanted for her students is her her husband i understand that wording is her. I understand that when she'd pick up the phone when you were calling she would say and remaining to you. Hello? glove. That's how she answered the phone. Yeah. I love that. That's how she would just not even on the phone if you would shout her name in the house christina, it should be like die. You'd be thought like that's just yes, my love for how that was i i still hear it. It's really weird. I was expecting to hear it when i was calling her that day you called her number that day multiple times? yes. She had it was a birthday. Her mom was visiting. Her mom had had surgery. So she wasn't able to celebrate her birthday. And i understand that tuesday night she baked a cake, a birthday cake at her home by herself, and then brought it in to school to share with the kids on the day that she was killed that's exactly right. Pizza and birthday cake because she wanted she wanted to celebrate her birthday with her kids you said that you'd never seen her frown and you said that i don't think she has the facial muscles to frown. I thought that was i've never heard that before. I thought that wasn't credible. Yeah, she was she was full of life. She was happy she is very smart, full of life. She loved her community, she loved she was proud of being romanian. She loved her family. She was a traditional romanian dancing, which is what some of the pictures we saw of her. That's what they relate to yes. So some of that picture right there, she actually taught at the romanian orthodox church the romanian folklore dancing. She wanted to keep the tradition alive. I want to play. There's some sound that we have from a young person who heard something about her final moments. And i just want to play what she said my friend, my neighbors, she was going to get shot, but ms ernie stood up and took the bullet for her so yeah. But, you know, that's very very strong it wouldn't surprise you to hear that she wanted to and do anything to protect her kids no. Because we were her kids sorry. No, that's that's what we thought all along because does just who she was she that she would spring into action she wouldn't she died for her her for her children, like any good mom would do like a good teacher would do she couldn't have her own. So these were her kids sorry. I'm sorry nothing wrong with tears. It's okay. Is there anything else you want people i think i'd like to just speak on behalf if that's okay. He said he wanted the world to know that christina was a wonderful woman with a big heart a good soul and he said that she was a real warrior, but not the kind with a sword. She was a warrior with her soul just let the world know that she loved children. She was very devoted to children every all booth thank you so much for talking to us. And i'm sorry, it's under these these horrible circumstances, but thank you thanks for having me go fund me, has been set up to support christina irimie, a family. You'll find it online at the address. You see the bottom of your screen as go fund me. Com, forward slash f forward slash. Honor. Cristina ramirez, legacy support her family coming up next. A message from the parents of hersh goldbergpolin as the other families continue to call for the release of all those now held in gaza sunday to our whole story special the candidates and the record on the key issues of the election season she anticipates the strength of what the blowback might be. 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Next today in the west bank in 26yearold american woman protesting settlements were shot and killed by the idf, according to witnesses, is shane nor agi, her name recently graduated from the university of washington and the israeli military admits to firing a demonstrator kristen says it's looking into reports that a foreign national was killed. Meanwhile, more urgent calls for the release of all the hostages still being held in gaza by hamas, including from the grieving parents of 23yearold israeli american hersh goldbergpolin, who was murdered after more than 300 days in captivity by hamas, along with five other hostages last weekend. Yesterday, the terror group released a propaganda video recorded at some point when hersh was alive. Cnn's obviously not showing that video since his abduction at the nova music festival nearly a year ago, has parents worked tirelessly to raise awareness about him and the other hostages? they released a statement in response, the video yesterday that reads in part this must serve as an immediate wakeup call to the world to take action today to secure the release of the remaining 101 hostages before it is too late no other families should go through what our family and the families of the other recently executed hostages have endured but yesterday, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu told fox news, there is not a deal in the making. He also said, i quote, unfortunately, it's not even close as he denied comments from the white house that an agreement was 90% completed earlier this week, i talked with orna and ronen neutra's. Their son, omero, who is israeli and american still being held captive will be turning 23 soon. This could be his second birthday as a hostage i asked orna and ronen if they have faith in the prime minister. Here are some of what they told me we don't unfortunately, not we met him in the white house with president biden will look them in the eyes. And unfortunately, are feeling is that he has his own political future i heard of him, rather than the safety of our son, 11 months should have been enough time to reach military achievements that are military apparatus aisle saying that we already reached and a deal has matured and what we hear from the bidding minutes, anyhow, is that we're not there yet so who do we need to believe to? it's it's really, it's not just our son. I don't believe that he has the interest of the israeli people as his top priority anyone, you know, that's looking at this can see that israelis need the hostages to come home for them to be able to recover from this, to move forward, i want to remind put on the table the fact that the path for stability in the middle east is bringing the hostages. We look at it as the key for stability. And we urge the u. S. Government to do everything in its power to use all the intelligence and other technological resource to bring help, bring the hostages back work with our partners hand in hand and bring prime minister netanyahu to the point where he's going to agree to a deal with hamas. And of course, hamas needs to agree to let's not, this is a deal with the devil stay with cnn for the latest developments from the middle east. That's it for us. The news continues, the source with kaitlan collins starts now it's checking the source