Hours but i suddenly kyivs leadership has vowed revenge for russias aerial attacks against ukrainian cities a Driving Factor also for the soldiers attacking russian positions on the north eastern front. Fred pleitgen, cnn, kyiv thanks for joining us. The source starts now straight from the source tonight, any moment, a new update from the authorities in georgia after two High School Students and two teachers or murder today, at least nine others were hospitalized. And what is now the 45th School Shooting in america . Just this year alone chilling accounts are emerging from what happened inside that School Today. As were also learning new Details Tonight about the 14yearold Suspect who is now in custody, including how he was questioned by Law Enforcement about School Shooting threats just last year. Im kaitlan collins, and this is the source as i noted, were awaiting a live update from the authorities right there in georgia. They are gathering at the microphones on what is now the deadliest School Shooting in america this year Law Enforcement officials are expected to brief u. S. At in a moment, were going to bring that to you live when it happens. But as we wait tonight, we are getting new details about the weapon that was used in todays Mass Shooting at apalachee High School in winder, georgia . Thats just northeast of atlanta. Law Enforcement Official tells cnn the gunman used an Ar 15 Style Rifle when he can hell two students and two teachers and injured at least nine others this morning, i want to take a listen to the officials now. All good evening as you can tell, we know that its been alone day. I want to thank you for being patient with us today i want to thank you for understanding that this is still an active Crime Scene but from the minute that this tragic incident happened Today Governor Kemp has been with me and been talking to swimming in several times and has been known our side and Law Enforcement side. And i wanted to introduce him to make a few statements. Again. Thank you. For your patience. And at this time or more introduced a governor and then Director Hosey will take answers and questions after that thank sheriff. Just want to thank you and your team for the incredible work that theyve done. The response of our first Responders Today has been unreal superintendent leduff, principal leroy, who just did an incredible job with these kids. This hits home for us being from athens just down the road, marty and i have a daughter that taught first grade just a few years ago. This is everybodys worst nightmare. And just want to offer my sincere condolences and our thoughts and prayers to the families of that have lost Loved Ones for those that are injuring in injured and continuing to fight through just a tragic time for really this whole community that has been affected by todays actions. And i just cannot thank the first responders enough. I cannot thank Director Hosey colonel hitchins, the red or stalins at jima, the whole State Response i want to thank especially as At Farley and her team from the fbi, fbi that are embedded with us in The School as we speak running down, every sense single lead, and other things that direct or hosey will mention tonight i represented Bear County when i was in the State Senate 20 years theres a these are our neighbors these are our friends in this community is hurting today and i would just ask all jordans and all americans its to sticking you continue to keep these families, these educators in these students in your thoughts and prayers and we will provide every State Resource that is needed from here until theyre not to support this Community And Support this team behind me. And with that, ill turn it over. Director hosey thank real quick. We wanted to provide some additional updates from todays events and i will mentioned this will be our last update for the evening. So i please hope youll understand that let me start by saying that theres no evidence to report did any additional shooter was involved in this Incident Today investigators are actively pursuing, however, any leads of any cheatle associates of the shooter there was involved in this incident, so i say that to say were following up any potential leads through the investigation to ensure if there freaney associates involved in this that we trip we found them, we identify them. Thats part of again, the ongoing investigation. There is no evidence of the list of schools being targeted. However, there is a lot of evidence that is being recovered and evaluated were going through everything to determine if there is any active threats to any schools in this area, this county and the state of georgia we will continue to monitor after that throughout this investigation, throughout the evening as we as we carry on there was a call. As were aware of, to a local Hobby School as well this morning with a reported threat police responded in investigated and determined that there was no threat after all oh theres been reports that a Colton Gray, who is another student here at The School, was involved or a colton get Cold Gray was involved in this if you recall, from a previous Press Conference early this afternoon, the individual that weve arrested and will be charged with this Name Ms Colt gray but there is another student here at The School with a very similar name. We wont ensure everyone that Colton Gray is not involved in this incident. That is the name that i provided you earlier this afternoon those reports were inaccurate if that if that was passed on to you, i do, however, want to identify the victims of this of this Incident Today. Those that lost their life in this tragic Event Mason Shurma horn, age 14, who is a student here at The School christian alkahlot, who was 14, also a student here at The School Richard Aspen wall not sure of his age, but he was a teacher here at the School And Christina Air Air Air murray im sorry for my pronunciation. Who was also a teacher at The School we will post a list of these victims for the correct spellings for everyone later this evening that we complete the Press Conference here also has been released. The fbis national threat Operations Center has resumed, received Anonymous Tips in the past of online threats to commit School Violet or School Shootings at an undetermined location in time the fbi referred this information to the Daxing County Sheriff office for action the Jackson County Sheriffs Office identified and located gray, who is our suspect in this case . They conducted an investigation at that time and there was no probable cause for rest or to take any additional Law Enforcement action this is not recent this is in the past, but we wanted to bring that to your attention because we are pursuing that working with the fbi on that in any connection to that that incident, that could be connected to Todays Incident as well also, were also aware of some previous contacts that the department of family and children services in the area it had with the suspect in his family. And we are pursuing that avenue as well too. See if that has any connection with Todays Incident. Let me stress again, as we have many times that this is still a very fluid investigation, is still very active we will have agents and therell be Law Enforcement personnel that will be pursuing investigative leads. And collecting evidence throughout the night and then two much of tomorrow, i would anticipate as well we again ask for your patience and that this is a criminal investigation and were going to treat it like that. So i apologize ahead of time if we dont answer some of the question that you may ask, okay. Please understand. I also want to want to bring note to one very special thing that we do not need to forget about here is we have, he rose in our mis weve talked about are Law Enforcement personnel. Are far i rems those that are deceased are heroes in my book. Those that are in the hospital recovering right now, are heroes in my book. But also the heroes that we need to remember heres our Faculty And Staff here at this school. They acted admirably. They were heroes in the actions that they took the protocols at this school in this system invaded the day, prevented this from being a much larger tragedy than what we had here today. So i want to recognize them as he wrote, because they are hey continue with our thoughts and prayers as has been mentioned, for the families that were lost here today, those who were lost two today, those that are recovering in the hospital obviously those that were affected directly by this tragedy here at The School. At all of the community of Barrow County, we need to continue had them in our thoughts and prayers thank you right away. Another one of these games, can you tell us a by chance since hes been charged as an adult important tomorrow with he will be booked tonight. Im not sure the court appears, but it will be within a reasonable amount the weapon that was used in this was an ar Platform Style Weapon. So how did mr. Ray get the gun into this were still investigating that aspect of it go out get the gun, come back. We heard some of that comes something. Were still trying to clarify. A lot of the timeline him from the time that he got here to School Today until the essence to klansman i mean, so often i know what home we always hear something that the fbi has heard something about someone who goes and does one of these tragic events how can we start . This from happening . Because it feels like this happens every single time, which is School Shooting that we heard that there was a prior thread as prior knowledge what when lives are at stake how can we start . Well, theres a variety of ways and in my personal opinion community involvement, what our School System is doing here to ensure that whether we be able to stop it completely one day or not. I dont know that those are decisions that each individual is making on their own to do this but again, i go back to what i said earlier about the heroes here that prevented things from being a lot worse today. But weve got to take action within our own communities. Take care of Each Other be aware of our surroundings whats going on in our community to the Family Year and they found hunting Rifles Family out ar Platform Weapon again Thats Part of a lot of the things that were trying to clarify within the Investigation Review were very very early education, was it from my Name Call from his Balcony Or Staff member from a student. Can you just expand on national shooter in minutes . Could you expand on why it would female Faculty Member Walking . Around looking for this student minutes before he sought ill let dried your house. He answered that question lets get to this Question Right here and then well come you asked how will they notified we discussed today heard earlier, Law Enforcement here within several minutes, so were just curious how the notification went brewed and i want him about it from a student or a faculty that made that call alerting Law Enforcement all of our teachers or armed with they form of an i. D. Carlson tjx in syntax, alarms u. S. And alerts their Law Enforcement office after buttons are pressed on an i. D and it alerts us that there is an active situation at The School for whatever reason. And that was pressed and weve had that about a week now actually going other students while they were in the hallway all this chaos is happening while shooting was going on storied boston explain their classmates into the classroom to give secure, to get them to safety. What do you think that says . Now young folks who worked very 13, 14, 15yearsold, that theyre looking out for one another its admirable. Side, Director Hosey said, we have he rose among us. And those students and teachers that did that today saved a lot of lives. This could have been a way worse than what we, again, the investigation is still trying to file through those that information, but those kids are our heroes and brave as well to do that when they hear an active shooter around them let me let me get this one Question Right did you have some elsewhere i was asking why School Resource . Not looking for this Kid And Approach him and why they sent a female Faculty Member to the house floor room. He was in with my daughter looking for him that of the School Resource officer or why allowed this void to come and go from the class all Hi Sign for the restaurant, leave the class and come back from time. Sometimes never come back was wondering The School without due respect me and my thank your information is incorrect. And our investigation is going to lead to what we have and we will be glad to answer your questions once thats done possibly what can you tell us about the Srr Talk about a lot of heroes. You talked about how one of the sros in founder what can you tell us about who they are how long theyve been working here and what they did today both of the sros that are here at these High Schools are bother my hospitals. I have to theyre both of the sros to include a third one was here today, not for any other reason other than the help and assist today theyre the true heroes as well. They were actively looking. They had an alert, i guess if you will. And when they energetic this shooting began they interacted with the shooter, mr. Gray, and as soon as they made contact with him, he gave up immediately. Share these officers now at this, time id rather not sure the shooter right now. He said in the shooter is in custody the Bear County Detention Center because he is a juvenile. Hes being booked in and he will be transported to Ry Dc what minutes greater, tipped off by rain here before the shooting, im not aware of that at this time. Sheriff or director can say the condition on those injured that were taken the hospital will be any updates on how theyre going all of our victims that are at the hospital are going to make it and going to recover well, as weve been told we dont expect any more fatalities at this time last question at you being on gravity to this scale inside of you aware . Speak to that backing, speak to that. Now point this what, what did the day It Man . Hold goes tragic when Someone Praise on kids, its tragic like i said earlier haiti is not going to prevail in our county and hates not known prevail in our state in pure evil did what happened today. Thats all i can tell you. I want to continue to say that im proud of the men and women behind me. Im proud of the women that stood beside me. Im proud of the men and women who protected these kids. Im proud of their staff. Im proud of this community and i just ask for prayers. Thank you for your office well, look, weve done a tremendous this amount on School Safety, but today is not the day for politics or policy. Today is the day for an investigation to mourn these presses, georgians that we have lost to thank the first responders that went into the Line Of Fire the School Staff Superintendent the principal, and others that are just trying to hold this community together. Thats what we need to be focused on right now. We also had a tragic loss of a firefighter in Green County earlier today before this event happened with an explosion that killed the life of a first responder. That again was running in to danger when many people were trying to run out. And thats what the focus needs to be on tonight. I would ask everybody to continue to keep this community of these victims and these educators and these men and women in Law Enforcement in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you. Thank you, governor just want to thank everyone for their patients and taking the time the cover this we ask that you im continue, to. Follow the gbi for updates. As we said earlier, were going to continue to provide updates. Its very important that we get this information out. Right now. We really want to focus on our victims and you have been listening to an Update Tonight from officials in georgia that was the director of the Georgia Bureau of investigation. You also heard from Georgias Governor and the sheriff there an update on that School Shooting that happened today, killing to students and two teachers who were murdered. We just got them names of the victims, what officials told us theyre that two of those victims were 14yearold Students two were teachers. Their names are mason shurma horne, who is 14yearsold, christian angelo, also 14 Richard Aspen wall, and christina emory. Those are the forum victims of todays shooting, the 45th School Shooting that has happened in the united states just this year alone we also got an update from officials about the suspect who, as we know, is a 14yearold Student at that school still Questions Tonight that remain unanswered about how he got that gun into The School and where it came from, and how he got access to it. But what we do know is he is going to be booked tonight according to the gbi director, there as an adult, and that will be a transfer as were still waiting to hear when his Court Appearance is going to happen. A lot that were learning tonight including from that Press Conference, joining me here tonight, cnn its chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst john miller, and Cnn Contributor Jennifer mascia. Masia. Thank you both for being here. John obviously, a lot of questions about the shooter and how he got the gun into The School, what stood out to you from what you heard from officials . Jools theyre well, i think we learned a lot particularly about that earlier threat. So In May of 2023, there were in Barrow County now, but In May of 2023, a Ninth Grader whose 14 today was an eighth grader who was 13 at the time . And there was a Gaming Platform that is used by young kids a lot where posts were made about an individual threatening to do a School Shooting, that those reports went into the Fbis West Virginia based threat Operations Center. They went through the processes of getting subpoenas, disclosure Orders Preservation orders. They got those postings, they traced it to an Ip Address and then a physical address. The Fbi Pass that information to the Jackson County sheriff different county from this, right . They go to the house, they interview the parents, the father tells them, according to the fbi tells the Jackson County sheriff . Yes, there are guns in the house yes we have a son, but he doesnt have access to those. Those are locked away. They interview the 13yearold who says, i didnt make that threat. I know that that threat is there, but that wasnt me. And then it was shared. I am told with The School authorities there but then they move they move to Barrow County and it appears that information didnt have a way to follow them because it was it was captured by the fbi threat center, referred to the locals who did the investigation turned out to be unsubstantiated, shared with The School and now we see this today. So i think that was the other question i regulatory. And they seem to suggest that theyre looking into other contacts that they have with Child Services as the official said, there, what kind of questions are they going to be looking into for something like that matter . Well, we start off with the big ones that are in front of us, which are if there were weapons in the old house, its presumable that those weapons traveled when the family moved there what was the situation with access how did this individual Get Access to a rifle that was used today . The investigations operating theory right now is that it came from the home because they have no indication that it would have come from anywhere else. And with the Tipping And Cuing involved here between Child Services, the Fbi Tip, the Jackson County investigation before Barrow County had this Incident Today we have to ask ourselves what were the signs . Who were they shared with . We know in at 3 of these cases, there are indicators before a shooting, what they call leakage, and things that are noticed by teachers, students in counselors, and only half those times their shared yeah. And the other thing that they confirmed, jennifer is that it was an ar they said an error Platform Style Weapon seen and confirmed Mark Morales earlier that its an Ar 15 that was the gun that was used here . Yes. And that doesnt surprise me. Most Mass Shootings are committed with handguns, but Ar 15 rifles, they have this, this cache, this mystique, and weve seen a lot of mass shooters go for those in georgia. There is no minimum age to possess a rifle. Now you cant go to a Gun Store and buy a rifle. But the people go hunting with rifles with their parents. They have access to these guns. Whats surprising to me is that after an Fbi Tip and a Child Protective Services call that this child still had access to those weapons. Now, georgia doesnt have any kind of a Red Flag law. But even if georgia did, the Red Flag would be on the parents, not the minor living in the home. Theres really no mechanism within a Family Household to shield a child from guns if theres not any kind of criminal or civil liabilities or penalties in place. I mean, the fact that the shooter though is still alive so often were in this situation and these other Mass Shootings or shootings happen at schools where the shooter is deceased and they cannot therefore interview that person not only did they say earlier they were interviewing him, they also talked about his Family Members as well. They said tonight theres a lot of evidence. Its still being evaluated what kind of evidence are they looking into . They mentioned a threat that happen in another school in the area. They said they went there. There was no threat to be acted upon, but there was a threat made at a nearby school in the same area this morning. So as a as a former fbi person, nypd person, the Questions Id be asking tonight is that threat that came in this morning . Was it designed to draw resources away from one location in terms of police . And did it come from someone either the shooter or known to the shooter that threat as we were told, was that there were going to be shootings at five schools which would have divided police resources evenly between multiple locations one of the things that mr. Hosey from gbi told us at the Press Conference was we are looking hard to see if there were any compatriots involved or any associates that might have been involved including, that would include the universe of possibly that color then there has to be whats going now on right now, which is all right. So what guns are registered to the father . This gun is recovered now, what guns are in the house . What was the Access System there weve all seen in cases like the oxford, Michigan Crumbley Case where the attention after the shooter shifts to the parents in terms of criminal liability for was the gun to available whether that was in this case or a small child in virginia, which weve seen so that is kind of a new focus here. The other thing that stood out was when there was clearly a parent, maybe hes also a reporter that was there asking questions, but right before she was asking questions, they asked who notified the police, was it a student . Was it a Faculty Member . And the officer said he he referred to it as sin tjx. It he said its a Badge Alarm that these teachers have had. Hes had theyve only been using it for a week, but essentially they can push a button on it and notify authorities when there is danger in The School that is remarkable and weve seen a whole Industry Pop up since Sandy Hook really of School Security, where they have silent Alarm Buttons and theres a movement to get these things installed in school it sounds like, you know, it worked out the best possible way it could work out to a point because for people still died. So we have School Security measures. And in this day and age, lets be realistic. We need them but unfortunately, lives will still be lost, possibly even when all the Scenarios Lineup jennifer mascia, john miller, great to have you both to break down those headlines. I just want to read the names of the four victims one more time as we have them from georgia officials, mason sharma horne, who was 14yearsold christian angelo, 14yearsold, and two teachers, Richard Aspen Wall And Christina emory. Obviously our thoughts are with their families and their Loved Ones and everyone who knew them. Tonight will continue to follow this up. Next, we have more with a foreign Police Officer who responded to the massacre that happened at another school at Sandy Hook and also a student who survived the parkland shooting, David Hogg will join me in just a moment. Well be right back hey, folks. Chris kuhnian here with Lead Filter America is the largest Gutter And Gutter protection company, Lee Filter as over 150 locations and has been installed on over 1 Million homes. Weve been protected homes now for over 20 years. Our patented technology offers total protection for your home and comes with a lifetime transferable warranty. The process is simple. Give us a call to schedule your free Gutter Inspection if he decide to move forward to project, you pointed nothing down at all a33 Leaf Filter or visit Lee Filter. Com today. Im amman. These are my kids today. 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I want to get to cnns senior national correspondent, ryan young, who was on the ground, was just listening to that Press Conference from officials, ryan and i know obviously, weve been hearing from officials on what was happening. We there was one voice please there was asking questions to those authorities about how this happened, how this shooter was found at the School Today, and i believe you that you have her with you now absolutely. So as were doing the News Conference and we were getting that new information, Rebeccas Voice can be heard sort of over the reporters for a clear reason is because shes a parent at The School she has some concerns about whats actually being said. You said that you believe there was a call that came in earlier today that gave them an alert and they might have actually already been looking for the student when the shooting happened. From what everybody is saying, there was a call at 9 30 this morning, but i dont know how true that is. All i know is that a School Female worker came looking for the kid about ten to 15 minutes before he came back and started shooting. They got the wrong kid. They had the names mixed up and she left and about ten to 15 minutes after she left the class, thats when he came back and approach the door. That my daughter was in and a girl went up to let him men but saw that he had a gun and she backed away. And i guess thats when he just started shooting everybody else i saw the sheriff or walk over to you. What was that conversation afterwards . Because obviously, i know youre lu angry because your daughter was in that class i basically just feel like he was calling me a liar, saying that the Staff Member wasnt looking for the shooter, that she was looking for the kid whose names they mixed up, but you cant tell me its a coincidence that youre looking for somebody with that name and 15 minutes later he shoots up The School The School should have been put in, locked the moment they went looking for him yes. Said there was a pattern with this particular student that even your daughter noticed. Can you tell us and the viewers about that pattern from what my daughter told me. He comes to Class And Hell sign out to hes the bathroom, but not take the Past And Hell leave class and sometimes hell come back and sometimes he wont. And today thats what he did. He he was there when she got in class and then he went and signed out and said he was going to the bathroom but didnt take the past and left the class its room and a little bit later, thats when he started shooting. You took this so seriously that when your daughter calls you, you got On The Road immediately. Tell me about driving here. What was running through your mind, how fast you got here . I live probably about seven minutes from The School. I got here and about like i think about two minutes. I dont know. Everything was just flying i pretty much i spent the whole way here when i got here, there was only two Cop Cars here and thats the cops that work here. Well, im glad your daughters okay. Thank you. Kaitlan. Obviously, there are is some mixed emotions and Police Officers are trying to figure out exactly what the steps are. We know theyre reviewing surveillance video. So as this goes on, parents do have some serious questions about how today played out. Yeah. I, understandably, ryan. Thank you for being there, please Toll Rebeca we said thank you for also joining us. Thank you. So night i also i want to speak to Someone Tonight who knows all too well what what people like rebecca and her daughter are feeling and that is David Hogg who cofounded march for our lives after the 2018 Mass Shooting at his school in parkland, florida. Most recently, he cofounded a pac called leaders. We deserve to help elect young progressives and david just to be in this moment, again, as we were saying, the 45th School Shooting just this year alone in the united states and the sheriff that we heard from tonight earlier, i was listening to have any set. He was shocked that this happened in his community and i get what hes saying its jarring to have this happen in your Home Town in your home but you of all people know that its unfortunately not that surprising yeah, unfortunately its its, happening in every community its not a matter of if its a matter of when until we come together and do something about this. And im just really sick and tired of the hatred and the division in the debate over and over about all this stuff and us not focusing on what we can agree on you know, after uvalde, many people said that it wasnt going to be possible for us to change in gun laws. But for once congress actually did something we expanded Background Checks for people under the age of 21, attempting to buy a gun and we put billions of dollars in School Safety programs and Community Safety programs. And obviously that was nowhere near enough, given that im talking to you right now, but we have made progress on this over 800 highrisk individuals rules have been stopped from buying guns like ar, 0. 15 uvalde because the passage of that law, we have so, so much more work to do, but point, i really want to come back to is we know this is a very divisive issue. We know as a country that we have very strong opinions on both sides of this issue. But ultimately, we all agree that nobody wants to see these School Shootings continue and nobody wants to see Gun Islands continue. I think its time that our leaders have a real conversation about what can we agree on moving forward so that these stories, these School Shootings can be left in our History Books and not in our headline. Well, and everyone remembers how you and your classmates after several of your classmates were murdered in 2018 . Went to lawmakers in florida, went to the governor, rick scott, pushing them on this very issue. I wonder given that we saw Governor Kemp their brian kemp, there also speaking to reporters tonight. What would you what would your message be to lawmakers in georgia this evening . I mean, like theres obviously a lot of republicans in georgia, theres a lot of democrats too my message would be to put politics aside. We heard the sheriff talking earlier about the importance of not politicizing this moment. I think what it looks like to politicize this moment is frankly doing the same thing is Nothing Nobody wants these shootings to continue. What i would urge those lawmakers to do is do something potentially like a Special Session in georgia and have some real conversations not out in public between lawmakers where there in the Public Sphere and they other guards up, a lot of the time, especially the republicans, because they dont want to be seen talking to democrats about this, but have a real conversation behind closed those doors and figure out what you can agree on to move forward in florida, we raised the age to buy a gun to 21 and we passed Red Flag lot. Obviously theres work that needs to be done as we find out more details about this incident to make sure that were passing things like Child Access Prevention laws to make sure that parents whose child is able to access a gun that is owned by that parent and go and do something like this, that theyre held accountable. This is Child Endangerment like period is nothing more than that and thats what ive encouraged those lawmakers to do is have a real conversation and more than that though, i would encourage the voters of georgia, i would encourage young people across this country and people of all ages to make sure that we arent just sending our thoughts and prayers. But remembering that its about action, we need to do more to address this issue and come together as americans to address this and acknowledge the fact that were always gonna have disagreements. Why dont we come together and focus on what we can agree on it and move forward on that because none of us want to see that this violence continue yeah. David hall. 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Tonight, Vice President harris picked up a new voter, a notable one, given it is a lifelong republican who was once a member of House Leadership dont believe that we have the luxury of writing in candidates names and particularly in Swing States and as a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the constitution i have thought deeply about this and because of the danger that Donald Trump poses not only am i not voting for Donald Trump, but i will be voting for Kamala Harris in the Room Erupting into cheers after you heard the former Wyoming Congresswoman Liz Cheney making that announcement at Duke University in the Swing State of North Carolina tonight. And when that in the last 24 Hours Harris has picked up support from not just to cheney, but also a mccain. Two of the biggest Family Names in republican politics over the last several decades. The one and only Dana Bash is here with me who is also the author of burn book, americas deadliest election. And i want to talk about the book in a moment. But what is it like for you, someone who has covered politics been on The Hill to see Liz Cheney coming out and saying, im voting for a democrat and i covered the bushcheney White House if you wouldve told me that anybody related to Vice President cheney would be voting for a democrat. I would have told you to have your head examined but its just the latest Data Point in the fact that this is not the same republican party that Dick Cheney grew up in. And that he served in obviously, we know that its not the same republican party that Liz Cheney served in because she had to leave. And she was effectively kicked out of the leadership. And same goes for john mccain. It is just a completely different world and with each of these big decisions that people like Liz Cheney and you heard her say, i am a conservative, its not like she has changed her politics. Shes still believes in many, many things that are very different and an odds with what Kamala Harris agrees supports but they agree on one thing, and that is they believed Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. Well, and i think so many people are watching something like that do tonight and saying, what are remarkable election that were living through and nothings ever happened like this, which i think is true. But in your new book, which is fascinating on american this deadliest election, it follows this contentious election in 18, 72 and louisiana, i think a lot of people, i certainly certainly nor had never had no idea what happened this and peoples sort of say, oh, americas deadliest election. Are we talking about 20 20 you know what happened in 2020 and into 2021 was horrific and tragic. What happened in 18, 72 was a series of riots of absolute chaos, Total Corruption Real corruption, Fraud And Violence against specifically against Black Americans who were now. This was during the reconstruction era. Finally able to vote and the segregationists in the south realized that the way to keep blacks from gaining power and gaining more status in society was to keep them from voting. And it really started there. And there was it a massacre called the colfax massacre. That happened during this election after there was absolutely no way to tell who won the governors race, who won the legislature because everything was so compromised and hundred and 50 black men were murdered in Cold Blood and all they were trying to do was trying to find a way to get their votes counted after this crazy election. The way that they tried to find justice for these people who were murdered was to go through the federal judicial system, went all the way up to the Supreme Court The supreme court decided to really important decision called Crook Schanck and what they decided was it would be the State Government that would be determining civil rights, including election rights, and not the federal government. And that ushered in the Jim Crow Laws for 100 years in this country. And it started with this election in 18, 72, yeah. And obviously im from neighboring alabama. I mean, learning about that growing up in and the impact that that had on so many people still live and seeing how voting change. But when you, when you were researching this and writing this book what parallels did you see between, you what was happening in the 1870s with what we are witnessing right now, will there are so many, and this really blew my mind that if you fast forward to 18, 76, where there were the same Corruption And Fraud issues and Disenfranchisement Disenfranchisement of black voters it was so bad that for states had to congress had to throw out for states electoral slates because it was such a mass, you couldnt tell who really won. And there was a debate then kaitlan, youll appreciate this about whether the Vice President had a role in actually deciding which electoral slate would be admitted, or whether it was ceremonial. And they decided it was ceremonial. Wow. That had already been determined 100 years, more than 100 years earlier, also that main character in this book, who was the governor of louisiana who was very charismatic, has a lot of traits that you will find quite familiar. He was somebody who had people who loved to love him and loved to hate him. He was very open about changing the rules if it suited him and about doing whatever it took to stay in power. And there are lots of similarities between those two. How do you send a signed copy to maralago yet its its on its way out of bash. Great to have you, the book is americas deadliest election great everyone should read it and a reminder that cnn will have complete coverage and exclusive analysis before and after that debate that i was mentioning Abc News President ial debates simulcast right here tuesday, 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cnn up next the u. S. Government today has now accused russia of trying to interfere with the upcoming election. Again but with a new twist to this time, former national Security Adviser John Bolton is here to weigh in he sure gonna be okay for me fine hey, how are you guys for getting by . Great me to give me call you back. You never want to lose your edge. 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We Abc News President ial debate simulcast tuesday at nine tonight, the Justice Department is pointing the finger directly at Vladimir Putin for again, attempting to interfere in u. S. Elections according to a new indictment, this time, the Kremlins Influence Operation allegedly included funneling Money And Propaganda directly into the hands of some of the most prominent voices and rightwing media. Cnn has confirmed tonight that the nearly 10 Million went to tenant media. And among the commentators, there are podcast astors. You might be familiar with Benny Johnson and tim pool. Both of them have millions of subscribers on youtube and other social media platforms. And in fact, some of the same narratives that the kremlin was pushing came up when pool interviewed Donald Trump just In May its kind of scary to think about, but you take a look at the weakness we have now with ukraine and the money that we are wasting. Would you look at ukraine . We are giving all of this money a europe which is much more affected by that war than us, is spending just a tiny fraction of what were spending. And you say, does anybody at least get involved in this . But more importantly, i will end that war. I get it ended. Putin respects me i should note Johnson And Pool both say tonight that they maintained control of their content and say that they were victims of the alleged scheme. My next guest met facetoface with putin on this very issue back in 2018, where he delivered this message less than i think dont mess with american elections at the time, at the time and buster John Bolton was Donald Trumps national Security Adviser, ambassador bolton, its great to have you because, you know, when you look at this indictment and the part about this and the money that they were allegedly funneling to this nashville, Tennessee Based Media group in 2016. It was a troll farm posing as americans and grassroots activist. What do you make of the allegations in this indictment that the kremlin is now trying to use actual american influences, weather influencers, whether it was to their knowledge or not well, its not at all surprising, if anything, surprising is that they werent doing it earlier. You know, if you go back Just A Little Bit in history, the 1940s and 19 in 50s, the communist Soviet Union realize that hollywood had a big influence on american opinion. So taking control of the studios, getting their kinds of actors and Script Right . Writers and was a major communist effort to infiltrate hollywood. And a few people stood up to it, like ronald reagan, the Union Man Head of the screen Actors Guild to push that back. So this idea of influencing influencers from russia, its in their playbook and im not at all surprised theyre doing it in this election the and probably others that we havent uncovered yet. Well maybe some people watching are not familiar with people like Benny Johnson and tim pool, but they do have millions of subscribers on youtube, on social media platforms. Obviously a, you just saw that one of them interviewed Donald Trump In May. Republicans Law Lawmakers go and speak to them are quote them on twitter and whatnot. I just want it made us think about what the republican Intelligence Chair Mike Turner, Revolt And House Intel Chair Mike Turner had to say back in april about this we see directly coming from russia, attempts to mask communications that are antiukraine and prorussia messages, some of which we even hear being uttered on the House Laura i mean, how successful do you believe russia has been influencing people republicans on issues like ukraine well, again, to go back into russian history of Vladimir Lenin used to call people like that useful idiots. And there are a few useful idiots in Congress Today on the republican side. And im sure the russians are trying to take advantage of it. Its really a twofer for russians are other there is trying this kind of influencing one. I think they do want Donald Trump to be president because unlike trumps opinion of his relationship with Putin Putin thinks trump is an easy mark, so he, hed be happy to deal with him but it has a secondary and perhaps even more significant effect because this kind of Propaganda Undercuts Americans faith in their own institutions and it turns americans against Each Other. People who hate Donald Trump will now i will say more russian interference. We knew it was true all along and diehard trump supporters will say theyve politicized the Justice Department again, heres another prosecution of poor people just trying to help Donald Trump out yes. So this sewing of discontent, distrust is very significant yeah and you see people who now doubt what we read an indictment like today, i got to ask you about something else because back in april, you are sitting here with me on this show. You told me can you were riding in Dick Cheney for the election youre not voting for your former boss, Donald Trump. You heard Liz Cheney say today that shes voting for harris despite being conservative and she said, it is important for people to recognize not only as what ive said about the danger that trump poses something that should prevent people from voting for him. But i dont believe we have the luxury of fighting in candidates names. Does that change your opinion at all certainly not. You know, i was coming under pressure not to vote for Dick Cheney, to vote for liz, but i guess with her comments today, maybe ill just stick with Dick Cheney its not a luxury to be able to write in somebody other than the two major party candidates its important, its a protest vote. I understand my vote. Will not elect a president that has no chance to butt in maryland where i live, i have no chance to affect the electoral College Outcome there anyway, and i am not going to vote for anybody with whom i have a principled disagreement or think theyre not fit to be president. Its a sad commentary on our political process that weve got to such inadequate candidates now. And i dont agree with the idea that somehow the constitution is such a piece of Week Paper but Donald Trump is a threat to it. Donald trump will cause a lot of damage if hes elected in a second term, he is not an existential threat to american democracy. If you really think that you must think this Country Isnt worth much, because weve gone 235 years but this constitution, weve saw survived a lot worse than Donald Trump. And this kind of comment undercuts those who are trying to see Trump Put in his place and of course there are certainly people who feel that Way Ambassador John Bolton, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you thank you so much for joining us. The news continues right here on cnn