Seeing at this at this point. All right, about a minute, were going to see a News Conference from down there. What questionS Do you still have and where are the gun came from . Things like that . Well, it is as the investigation moves forward, we now know the gun is a rifle, not a pistol and it is shaping up that investigators believed the gun came from the home, which would fit in with the information we just went over. And then of course, we want to know, was there any other Threat Information Today and that will come up again right now, we do know that theres a timeline that goes back. Well, over a year. We know that there was a Rifle Used Questions about where in the house if it did come from the house, they came from when it was purchased, john miller, well let you get back to working the phones. Thank you. The news continues right here on Cnn Outfront next the Breaking News, a deadly School Shooting. Police say 14yearold killed four people and injured nine student who was sitting next to the alleged gunman, justice its before he started shooting is with us tonight. Plus new polls showing momentum for harris in key states. But also a very important edge for trump. What is that . John king is at the Magic Wall . Ball with a Deep Dive on all these new Numbers Tonight and more Breaking News. Abc just announcing important new details about their president ial debate w. H. O. Speaking first, where the podiums will be and whether for those mics, well be muted or not. The rules. Lets go outfront and good evening. Im erin burnett, Outfront Tonight. The Breaking News pure evil those are the words from the sheriff tonight, investigating a deadly School Shooting that left two students and two teacherS Dead, nine others hospitalized. Now recovering from Gunshot Wound the shooting for many, the second day of school back across this country in a school that had been back for a few weeks, taking place just about an hour outside of atlanta. According to police, the 14yearold Gunman is male. This is a new video from inside The School that weve just gotten a student who was sitting next to the alliance theres gunman in the classroom. Use in an Algebra Class said they were in that class together when he left the classroom, she thought to go to the bathroom, which short time later, he tried to return to the classroom, but didnt. Heres why were about to open the door until the girl whos an open at kind of steps back and its like, oh, wait, and then you just kinda see him through the little window, turn almost and you just here shots youre going to hear more from lejla, Say Wrath the young woman you just saw in a moment now according to police, after that shooting, that she just described started he was very quickly confronted by a very courageous School Resource Officer. And that is when he surrendered so many of these cases, shooterS Dead here britain incustody. The shooting taking place as most kids across the united states are heading back to school. And today, both Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Trump responding this is just a senseless tragedy on top of so many senseless tragedies. And its just outrageous that every day in our country in the united states of america that parents have to send their children to school worried about whether or not their child will come home alive it senseless, it is. Weve got to stop it former President Trump also responding online writing our hearts are with the victims and Loved Ones of those affected by the tragic event and winder, georgia, these chairs children were taken from us far too soon by a sick and deranged Monster Isabel rosales is outfront, live in winder, georgia to begin our coverage. And isabel, youve been on the ground there. Youve been talking two students. What more can you tell us erin, theyve been telling us just unbelievable story, something no teenage Journal Person should ever witness, including one girl who saw Classmate Show Shot in the shoulder, another who Saw A Teacher shot another student who is writing to her mother saying, i know im not a perfect daughter, but I Love You thinking that those might be her final moment. Moments and then another S D because the door automatically we loc horrifying High School students evacuating in winder, Georgia One By one out to seek your head up on the wall some joined a Prayer Circle after surviving the deadliest School Shooting in the u. S. Since march of last year. According to the director of the Georgia Bureau of investigation, to students and two teachers were killed at Apalachee High School nine others were injured and hospitalized for with Gunshot Wounds. The shooter who opened fire Wednesday Morning shortly after 10 00 a. M. Identified as 14yearold student colt gray, who surrendered after being confronted by School Resource Officer within minutes, Law Enforcement was on scene as well as to School Resource Officers assigned here to The School who immediately encountered the subject within just minutes of this report going out once they encountered the subject, the subject immediately surrendered to these officers he was taken into custody multiple Law Enforcement officials tell cnn, The School received a Phone Call this Morning Warning that there would be shootings at five schools, starting with theirs the call is now being investigated. The sheriff meanwhile, says he wasnt aware of any calls. A massive Law Enforcement response, including the Fbi And Atf are on the scene working with state, local, and federal law officers. Junior Leyla Foreman was in the bathroom when the School Alarm went off i was scared. I was going to die, to be honest. And when i heard hard lock down and i knew it was andrew, i immediately texted my dad and i was just like, i dont know if this is a drill. Im really scared and i just kept my feet up and i prayed many parents rushed to The School like Erin Clark for receiving these Text Messages from her 17yearold son, ethan School Shooting. Im scared, please. Im not joking im leaving work. Says the mom, I Love You, I Love You too, baby others in disbelief. I tried to get here soon as possible. I mean, its just its crazy, something like this happens in such a small town, such small county never know whats going to happen. Ill grateful that she was still good. Sheriff Jud Smith vowed to stay strong for his community i went to school in the School System my kids go to School System im proud of this School System my heart hurts for these kids. My heart hurts for our community but i want to make it very clear that hate will not prevail in this county and just in the last hour here, this Flag Right here at Apalachee High School has been lowered to halfstaff a sign that something horrible has happened here, a mark of respect for the two teachers that have been gone down and to students nine others also injured this Community Erin is going through something horrendous here. Schools have been closed for the remainder of the week, and we also have been told by investigators that the Alliance And Shooter will be charged with murder, and it is their attempt to try him as an adult all right. Isabel, thank you very much i want to go now to leylah, Say Wrath, shes 16yearsold, shes a junior at Apalachee High School and was sitting next to the suspected gunman moments before the deadly shooting occurred and leyla, thank you so much for being willing to do this, for sharing this how are you even doing right now im doing okay. It hasnt really affected me too much just yet but i think when i reconnect thats some of my friends thats when Itll Kind of hit me i mean, you you were there, you were sitting next to the alleged Shooter Right before this all happened, moments before it happened . When you and he were sitting next to Each Other, i guess. I guess you sort of called it your Elbow Partner as you who are, you know, kind of elbow to elbow at your desks how did he seem to you . Nothing to off he was just another quiet kid that didnt really speak too much and i know youve been in school well, here for a few weeks. Has youve been sitting next to him all the way through. Did Anything Anything different today about him . No, he wasnt here when i first like one school for sorry. I think he transferred in but nothing really seemed to tip welcome by him. Then this morning, he leaves your classroom and i know initially leyla, you thought maybe he need to go to the bathroom but he didnt actually take the bathroom pass, so then what happened he was gone for a little while. Not unusual. He usually skipped class, but a little bit later Manish Traitor came walking into find him and at that 0. 1 of my other friends was also in the bathroom but he was actually in the bathroom and he he came in looking for them and they said the wrong name. They said my Friends Name because they have similar names, but they asked if his bag was there. They said yesterday they gave him my Friends Bag a little bit later, my friend came back in from the bathroom with his bag and had asked him what happened. And he said he didnt know anything. And so class just continue can you like normal and then a little bit later, my Teachers Teaching and she gets a call on the intercom that shes a shocker so she goes to check it and then she comes back and shes kind of backandforth and the elbow, but hes still not in the classroom and soon he comes back to the door. Were going and i see him through the window and he tries to come in but the students like because all the doors on medical locked, so you have to be let into classrooms. Yeah. But he tried many, but base when he comes back, they will door. You actually saw his face yes. I saw it through the Window Yes and did it did Anything Strike you in that moment of oh, my goodness, something is horribly wrong or did he look normal . No. He looked normal so then what happened . He looks normal. Someone goes to open the Door Someone was to open it and then they back away. They dont open it and then you see him turn to what was my right at the time. And then you just hear shots and those shots he led to so we understand thats the classroom essentially next to yours that was the door was open for some reason yes. I think that door was opened and then what did you hear a lot of shots kind of back to back . And then you hear like the people next door throughout it, you kind of heard them moving things inside The Room, whether it waS Desks for other things like that. But you hear them moving, yelling, things like that ensures what were you even thinking in that moment leyla, when you hear the shots and it could have been your classroom and you hear people belong trying to stay alive in The Room next door we it didnt feel real like just it wasnt necessarily something was horribly wrong. Like i didnt cry and freak out. I stayed pretty calm it was kinda i was shaking a little bit, but i never i never cried and i never like panic because it just nothing felt like real and that moment i know you had like normal in a way what i know, as you said, you youre going to have time with your friends and think about to realize what happened. You did have a friend in that classroom where people were shot. And i know youve had a chance to speak with him what did he tell you . He saw in that classroom . He didnt speak much. I didnt try and push him or ask me anything. I just comforted him, letting him know that i was there, asked if he had talked to his sister, his brother and i walked with him and i stayed with him until he found his brother. And then i went to look for my friends. But i didnt want to talk to him about it. Asked him about it too much just because he just seemed really shaken up obviously, it was a School Resource Officer who stopped him. I know people you see every single day when you go to school do you know those sros . Well, the School Resource Officers know. I dont know that i know youre in your classroom and all this its happening lately. Did you do hear any of the exchange when that confrontation happened and they were able to stop him and obviously saved what could have been so many lives i heard yelling. Im not sure exactly if they stopped him on my hallway or if he was more throughout the School Or Way they stopped him. But i did hear like cops or officers yelling in the hallways in live. I know you mentioned that he may have transferred in recently that he went isnt there at the beginning of the year and i know you guys have been bad for pretty much a month, so youre well into school at this point but you mentioned something in a moment ago. You said that he would often skipped school. Is there Anything Else that you think its important for people to know about him just from your observations over these past week sitting next day . Not really. I mean, he was he never talked like i didnt know him very well. He never really spoke. I couldnt tell you what his voice sounded like or really even describe his face to you . He was just there i know that youre going to a vigil now, leyla with your friends how are you all going to manage this . Just even tonight in these next hours i think talking about what each of us went through piecing together the story is trying to figure out exactly what happened and just being there and comforting Each Other when he left to go to the bathroom, did you did he take anything with him that there could have had a gun in it or does it seem from what you observed that he would have had to get the gun from outside the classroom . I dont think he got the gun from outside the classroom. I think he had it on him i never saw him. I dont remember why dont remember seeing him leave, but i dont think his bag was in the classroom at the time of the shooting. So i think when he did i believe he took it with him you think somehow like under his Shirt Or Something on his body while they live very much appreciate it. We all do thank you so much for talking to us and sharing with us what you know. I know its got to be unbelievably hard, so thank you all right we continue to get more information on that. If we are anything from Law Enforcement, were going to bring that to you next. We do have some new Poll Information coming out and its from a whole lot of places. It shows Kamala Harris with a lot of momentum key Swing States. There are also though warning assigned Warning Signs ahead for her. What exactly are they, John King going to do a Deep Dive for us tonight as his Magic Wall. 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Harris is ahead of trump in the key Blue Wall states of michigan and wisconsin in arizona, though, trump is in the lead, Georgia And Nevada are both within the margin of error, although harris is technically up a point in each in pennsylvania that is a dead heat right now. And were gonna have a lot more on all of these numbers with John King in just a moment. Deep dive on them at the wall. You know, it comes though as Vice President Kamala Harris is now trying to talk more about policy and to define herself aS Different than biden for the first time announcing some differences from the president on taxes in New Hampshire today, harris announcing she would tax Investment Income at a lower rate than President Biden has proposed. If you earn 1 a year or more the Tax Rate on your long Capital Gains will be 28 under my plan because we know when the Government Purge is investment, it leads to broad based economic growth and it creates jobs, which makes our economy stronger to be clear if she would increase taxes by a lot less than biden on Capital Gains, but still increase them more from where they are now former President Trump firing off nearly a dozen online videos around the time that harris was speaking about her economic policies. One after the other he was talking about the border communism crime, biden, and so the Economy Trump Cash versus kamala crash. Were going to have a crash like 1929, if she gets in it will not be pretty that line of attack actually is reminiscent. In fact, almost identical to what trump was warning about the last time around if Biden Wins and youre going to have a stock market crash, the equivalent of 1928 and 1929 of course that has not happened despite trumps prediction. It is clear though, that both of sides know that the economy is key in the election, right . It is the focus for voters more than Anything Else. John king now at the Magic Wall as promised so john, as you look at it right now with all the latest polling data, all that youve thought where and what are the paths right now to, to 270 tonight . Erin strap in our new polling shows yet some harris momentum, but the big headline is, this is a very, very, very, very, i could add a few more very close races. Lets just look at the data. What is tells us this is where we are right now. The yellow states are, are tossup states. They include North Carolina, we did not pull in North Carolina this time im going to lean it, read democrats will get mad at me, but im going to lean that one red until i see data to prove otherwise because it has gone red in every election since 2008 when obama won, it was republican before that. Heres our new polling. Harris ahead in wisconsin outside the margin, harris ahead in michigan just outside the margin, that gets rid of 250, right . Donald trump ahead in arizona, outside Tomorrow Margin that let me make that red. That would move him up to 246 pretty close. Right. And then you mentioned these other states are too close to call pennsylvania a genuine ty lets just Say Harris is exact, is really Plus One in georgia and Plus One in nevada. This is just one poll. This is a hypothetical here that alone though, if she could held that, were getting to 272 and she could win the presidency without pennsylvania, but again, shes Plus One in the polling. Its just as plausible and weve seen other data that Donald Trump could win georgia and Donald Trump could win nevada as well. That would get him to two 68th. So what happens then . Youre looking at pennsylvania, right . Lets assume harris exit out. Its a tie right now. If trump won, hed be present united states if harris wanted under this scenario, again, its a scenario that gets you to 269 to 68. And it all comeS Down to nebraskas second congressional district, either a tie or it puts harris over the top at two 70. Im not saying thats going to happen. What im saying is if you look at thiS Data, heres where we start today. Those polls tell us, erin, look, we are eight weeks and six days away. Right from counting votes. Its competitive to 69 to 68 thats a nightmare scenario, i think for so many in this country, no matter which, which, which side of the political spectrum you may be on but you know, john, what i was just mentioning right before you came on talking about the economy which both Harris And Trump are focused on today. It is the number one Issue And Trump still has at least from the polling, youre looking at, he still has the edge there, right . This is trumps biggest advantage, which is why he wants to hold it and why you see the Vice President out doing economic speeches. Her ads are also tilting now heavily toward the economy in arizona, trumps up five overall voters view him is the better candidate by 15 points the economy in georgia where harris is tied, maybe Plus One, trump has a slider vance, so you can see the trend here in places where harris is competitive or ahead, trumps numbers are lower in nevada is the outlier it got thrown in its economy got thrown in the trash during covid but the key for harris is to bring this Trump Advantage down, where shes winning in wisconsin, she is up six in the state. Trump only Plus Two on the economy. This is her biggest challenge. Try to, if she Cant Catch Trump on the economy, at least make him Plus Two or plus four plus eight 816 or more of the economy right now is trumps biggest advantage by far. All right . When you go down deep in the Polling Today there were some Warning Signs for harris and specific vulnerability with key voting groups. What are they . So lets look first the Gender Gap gets talked about a lot. Lets look at Women Voters. If you look at these numbers, harris is essentially tracking biden a little better in some places, she would probably like to improve these numbers, but when it comes to women, look at harris now and biden 2020, and theyre relatively good right there. She would like to improve them, obviously, because shes struggling. One reason you want to improve them is because she is the struggling a bit among men voters, male voters, especially when you look out in the western states in 2020, trump won them by two points in arizona, hes up 14 in 20 2012 and ten. Thats about the same. But if you look at nevada eight Plus 18 plus five, so this is a problem for the Vice President , without a doubt, she needs to Try To improve her standing among male voters. And again, you can trace a lot of that back to the economy and people just dont know a lot about, heres one other thing quickly i want to show you though, hispanic voters are critical in both arizona and nevada, and look at this Biden Won by 24 points. Harris only by six in arizona right now, Biden Won in nevada by 26, harris by 20, smaller subset of voters here. So the margin of error is a little higher. So this might not be as bad how does it looks . But its still bad. And one of the places the Vice President has to do some improvement among men, among latinos, most of all, that would help itself on the economy. And what about independents and moderates . So this is fascinating to me and this just raises the stakes for the debate outside the chart here. Watch this when you bring it up independents and moderates this, this is into just independent voters but the Trend Lines are similar with moderates. Look at how trump is now winning in arizona, in georgia, in michigan among independents, right . Biden won all of these Battleground States among independents back in 2020, this is an area of the Vice President needs to improve her standing. Voters in the middle, these are people who selfidentify as independents. You see very similar numbers among people who selfidentify as moderate shes struggling in the middle. She is viewed as more liberal than moderate. Joe biden. And so she struggling a bit in the middle, but heres the opportunity. A lot of people dont know a lot about the Vice President , which is why shes out there giving these speeches, right look at this the percentage of voters in each of these Battleground States who say they might change their mind. Its in the teens, 11 in georgia tends to be in the low to mid teens but all these other Battleground States, but look at the independents, 24 , 23 , 27 , 29 . They are open to changing their mind. If Kamala Harris can prove herself on the economy and on leadership. These are the independent numbers theyre very similar among moderates. We dont talk much more about in this polarized climate, about the middle of the electorate, there is room for her to grow in the middle if she makes her case . Yes. And you look at numbers of 268 to 69 at the end of the day, right . Any tiny margin of these groups matters so much absolute, john. Thank you so much for all of that. So lets go now to scott jennings, kate bedingfield, so kate harris is up in wisconsin and michigan. Lets just start with that. At where jon started these are massive turnarounds over the past weeks from biden. And now outside the margin of error, do you feel great about this i feel good. I feel encouraged. I wouldnt say i feel great because i think the totality of the numbers show that this is still and its going to be an incredibly, incredibly close race. We just heard John Go through it. I think what the Numbers Today joe is that Kamala Harris has more pathways, more conceivable pathways to, to 270 than trump does, or at least than trump felt like he did six weeks ago when Joe Bidens at the top of the ticket, i think theres no question his path has narrowed, so i think these numbers should give democrats, they should be heartened. I think its showing that she continues to build strength in the Coalition Shan that she needs to win. And as john was just saying that she has room to grow trump, i think probably has a little bit less room to grow in part because he is so welldefined so i think it is encouraging. I dont think by any stretch of the democrats should view this as a Slam Dunk though there is a long way to go in this race and its clearly very, very close. I mean, its obviously few weeks ago, pretty much its all those Swing States trump thought he had it locked up. He was talking about New Hampshire, right. So it is it is a small solace to say, oh, well, shes only up 1 in georgia, we can still do i mean, its still got to be pretty grim to look at these for trumps team, isnt it . I dont know. I mean, he was underestimated badly and several of these states by a lot of polling in 2016 and 2020 including in some Cnn Polling, i might add, i agree with kate, i think its an incredibly close race. Either of these candidates could win any of these states were talking about. And i also agree with john that the ticket to victory for the middle and for some of these male voters that theyre competing for is really to talk about the economy i had to chuckle a little bit today, listening to her talk about her Tax Policy. I mean, she is like see Joe Bidens Tax Policy is only going to kill you as much as, you know, jason voorhees, but im more like mike myers. See is that that better . No, its not better. Theyre both scary as hell. And either way, youre going to be dead. And so i think shes going to have to come up with something a little better than im going to raise your taxes a little less than Joe Biden as if she wants to do the captioning on the capital was on the main Tax Policy. Theyre at least as of now, has been no difference between the two let me just ask you one thing that john mentioned there when were talking about these different voting groups. And scott just brought up men, but i want to ask you that independents and moderates. Those independents that he was looking at in Swing States from 25 to 30 of them are open to changing their mind at this point alright, is this, is this something that worries you or is this something that actually makes you feel good because you are supporting the candidate about whom people no less well, i think its certainly shows that she has more room to grow. And so i think that as xi is continuing to define herself out on the campaign trail, also, weve now passed labor day, so you have voters really starting to tune in in a way that, you know, historically they dont pre labor day. So this is really a moment for her to make her case, and she also haS Donald trump out. There are opponent continuing to Try To throw everything at the wall against her to see what sticks hes not really making a coherent and cohesive argument against her, and hes continuing to use some of these same tired, ugly, personal attacks, which we know that moderate and independent voters are tired of. They rejected it in 2020, and weve seen in all so the polling since this race started to come together about a year ago when it was going to be trump versus biden we saw that people said we dont want this rematch. We dont want more of this. So were getting more of the same from trump during something new and different from Kamala Harris that theyre excited about this, change in their minds are at the point that one point that kate just raised was the Way Trump talks. Alright, so if theyre going to listen to whats going on or going to watch thiS Debate. Theyre going to listen to interviews. He does. The question has got are they going to take into account and do they care when he comes out and says personally pejorative things like he often does today on a Radio Show in New Hampshire. Hes talking about how harris ended up on the democratic ticket. And heres what he said. They didnt want her, but they were politically correct. They wanted to be politically correct as so many people do nowadays and they chose somebody that they didnt want. We can go another four years with a dumb president its scott, that thats what i want to ask you about. Calling her dm just coming out and doing that are you worried about what independents and moderates will do when they are confronted with Sound Bites like that or if that is the kind of stuff that we get a whole lot of next week at the debate yeah, i dont think it would be wise to do that at the debate and yes, of course, therell be some voters turned off by that. On the other hand, trump has some appeal and some need to talk too politically disengaged people who are probably not all that offended by crass, blunt talk like that and trying to draw them in, trying to make memeable content, trying to get them to consume this in short, soundbites. As we know, there are a bunch of voters in this country, or maybe nonvoters who he wants to make voters they might pick up on something like this. So i think theres a method to the madness, but you do, when you squeeze the balloon on one end, it pops on the other. And so there is a tradeoff. So some will not like it. There may be a cohort out there that like the blunt talk thats what hes betting on. Well, well see with something this close every single vote matters in a way, perhaps apps never has before alright, thanks very much to both of you, kate and scott. Next the Breaking News from abc, they are giving out the details here on the debate revealing tonight which candidate will get first pick on podium placement, who will get the last word . This is now all ive been decided. And the mics are they muted or not also kfile scouring years of Kamala Harris is statements and tweets, an exhaustive search finding more than 50 instances of her slamming trumps Border Wall. So why is that very wall now featured in her Campaign Ad . Innovation in Health Care means nothing. 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Of course, for some no audience obviously was with a Biden And Trump James Carville and Paul Begala together once again, here outfront. They are of course, the brains behind the winning 1992 clintongore campaign. And they are here reunited. So james trumps going to get the last word in thiS Debate. Abc is saying, is microphone will be muted when hes not answering a question which his team was very happy with, the Harris Campaign had fought are you worried that these things, either of them are going to be setbacks for harris in the debate not at all i fully expect the Vice President dragged them out across the Debate Platform i fully expect her to do very well. I think shes very well prepared. I think his whole active dale and theres going to be exposed and thiS Debate, im very optimistic. I dont know. Im not supposed to say that i might have to eat my words, but i dont think im going to paul to this point of stale or, stick with a good thing when youve got a good thing, okay. That line, Donald Trumps lines of Attack And President ial debates have not changed over the past eight years, not very much right . I mean, here weve got a few examples versus Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden shes raising your taxes really high. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. She wants open borders. He wants open borders. SheS Done a terrible job. For the african americans. You just did a horrible job for black people she never gets anything done, but isnt doing anything and thats pretty incredible. I mean, we look for word repeats in his business. Paul is not always that easy. So does that same Playbook Work against harris. Now no way. Not when 75 of the american people want change. You have 75 think were moving in the wrong direction. This is why Joe Biden was so stuck, right . But Kamala Harris has broken free of the incumbency because shes changed in carnot. And it all she has to do. James is exactly they its turned to trump and say, you know, thats all you got. That same old stale is like a carton of milk that you left out in The Sun for eight years. You know, its stale and it stinks and nobody wants it james, you know what, when you come to people want change and obviously i understand the change that Kamala Harris so many ways just embodied by her existence, right . And who she is. But on Policy Shed by the Vice President for threeandahalf years. How do you Make A Change Argument there or does it even matter . I mean, today we were we were highlighting that she was going to raise Capital Gains taxes by slightly less than Joe Biden was going to raise Capital Gains taxes as if that was some sort of a massive break and Tax Policy this isnt about that, is it well, first of all, people understand if Vice President doesnt sent policy, but thats all right. Shes got many things you can point to. By way, shes talking about small Business Tax breaks. Trumps talking about keeping Tax Cut for people. I will former thousand dollars. Who do you think needs a break . Theres country small businesses, a billionaire. I mean, its a very, very simple thing that shes got to do. Trump represents the past. Hes stale. His to politics or yesterday. Shes got to portray herself. I think she will be in fresh and i think she can do that. I dont think its that hard against trump. It might be hard against somebody else, but you got to look at who youve run again. So paul the stage, obviously theres going to be harrison trump, but hovering in the background is what you get with that ticket. And meanwhile, trumps supporters have been fawning over trumps Running Mate, j. D. Vance, despite polls showing that he was that hes vastly unpopular with a lot of key voters that trump would need to bring in as new voters, right . And harris, his team obviously is labeled and weird, you know, all the branding thats been going on. Heres an exchange. I wanted to play for you that he had last night on Fox News how do you go to the undecideds at this point, there is shrinking pool of people and convince them that not only are you serious and your seriously smart but youre a regular person. Ive known you for a long time, a really fine. Youre really funny versus the Giggle And Vibe show that seems to work for a lot of Women Voters out there you know, laura, my approach to this is just to get out there and meet as many people as possible okay. So Laura Ingraham saying, ive known you a really long time. Youre really, really fun and funny shes trying to make the argument for him there. You and james have been on the show saying that trump could Ditch Vance eventually as his Running Mate is. Do you still think that could happen at this point you getting late, youre only 16 days before early voting in virginia, minnesota, ballots are being printed, so trump may maybe had passed his, his useful date when he can do it. But i wonder if when laura said he was funny, she meant not funny. Haha, but funny, strange. Anybody can look at that clip of him trying to order, dont its go again, can even order a donut. I mean, he is the most unpopular Running Mate in modern times. I think much worse than Governor Palin of alaskan 2008 and hes just people just dont like him its like the old joke. What he asked somebody, why does it take such an instant dislike to me and answers jd, it saves time jim names and you know, aaron biden. I mean, trump got about out of j. D. Vance has called a dead Cat Bounce okay. Yeah. Thats exactly what he got. Hes got just turkey strapped around his neck and theyre going to theyre going to choke him with it. I promise you i promise you that well go so youre debate. I still stand by my prediction at the Vice President s going to do quite well. And people dont watch and pay attention because you had a Train Wreck on june the 27th, so they have stimulated to watch thiS Debate. I think the number is going to be really high compared to other debates. All right, well, we shall see knew you wanted to get in there. I should have. Yes, it might have been about a cat very quickly, paul the most important way that come with harris can break with Joe Biden all through the debate. Dont be 81yearsold okay. People were done with biden, not because he is too liberal or too conservative to anything. They just thought he was too old and shes not shes changing carnot. Well, as thats the standard, all shes got to do is show up alright, thanks. You both. I appreciate it all right. And that is next tuesday. Dont miss the abc News President ial debates simulcast tuesday at nine eastern, well have it here on cnn as well. Also with our coverage and exclusive analysis both before and after that crucial debate. Meantime, next, our kfile has gone through years of Kamala Harris is twins feats in records. 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So endrew mean you you and you all have gone through i mean, scoured an incredible amount of material. Tell me more about what you found yeah, thats right. We found more than 50 of those those tweets criticizing the border for a while before she used that in her ad. And i want people to take a look at just a few of what she said here. If she called it wasteful, useless a waste of Taxpayer Money or vanity wall project, a wasteful Border Wall, a stupid wall, a medieval Vanity Project, and an unnecessary wall. And those are really just and there were more of this just like ten or 50 but there was really there was really a lot of this was the common refrain during the campaign. You read that quote where she said it was against everything that not only the she stood for Everything America stood aboard button. She brought this up a lot. Take a listen to just one instance of that in 2019 its the president s Vanity Project, his multibillion dollar Vanity Project called a wall is nothing more than a distraction from the fact that he actually hasnt focused on working people in America He Contrived National Crisis around his big Distraction Right . So you go through all of that, youve got all the tweets and yet all of a sudden any ads, theres pictures of the wall and then you went through to look at that wall like, what is that specific wall . Thats in her Campaign Ads now and you found something very interesting about the specific portion and whats, i think whats also really remarkable. This is like, i mean, you heard her talking about it there though, trumps wall in his campaign during his presidency, there was really no greater symbol of Trumps Presidency than the wall in the way that democrats were attacking him over the wall and his restrictive immigration policies. So we looked in that ad and if you look at it that exact area of wall because in sasabe or sosebee, arizona and that is a portion of wall that was actually built by Donald Trump. It was built in area where there was not previous wall is actually pretty controversial when they were building it at the time. So just to see that there are other ways using his wall that he built to say, look at what i did and the other images of the wall we werent able to pinpoint, but theres theres telltale signs that that was a Trump Wall because theres an anticlimbing plates on top that became popular lieS During the trump years. Its really incredible reporting and important. Alright, Andrew Kaczynski and kfile. Thank you very much. Next ukraine upping the Ante Tonight Testing out a new weapon. It is a fire spewing drone. And we have new video of thiS Drone inaction the rise sandalS Drew Make A salience. Now on visit santos. 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Weve pushed the enemy back and captured a Battalion Line of Enemy Defense while the third Assault Brigade says, Theyll Keep pushing forward ukraine remains badly outmanned by the russians and a third Assault Brigade wants ever more Combat Drones to be their great equalizer. This is their drone school. They call the Kill House drone technology iS Developing extremely fast on the battlefields in ukraine. And the third Assault Brigade believes in the future they will need even more drone pilots, so theyre training as many as possible as fast as possible to get them combat ready theyve already trained more than 1,500 Perspective Drone Aviators here, not just to fly the Fpv Drones effectively, but to use them as lethal weapons capable of destroying even tanks the armored vehicles. Im shafik gymnast, the greatest effectiveness of a pilot is his or her desire. The Schools Boss tells me, or if bibi below it of input, Pv Pilots are people of a special mindset. 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