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Available now on the apple app store, android, an m taylor. Com im Katie Bo lillis in washington and this is cnn heartbreak is really american Hostage Hersh Goldbergpolin when is dead, slaughter alonG With five others by hamas, found by israeli Forces Hostage families demand ceasefire now, but are the two sides any closer to a deal and sit down Kamala Harris sits for the first interview of her candidacy. My values have not changed with just days until the first votes are cast, has she shared enough with voters to wiN Democratic Senate Candidate Congressman Adam Schiff is next, plus damage control. Donald trump sends mixed messages on abortion. We have the whole thing brought back into the stage and tries to come the controversy after his visIt To Arlington National Cemetery, will the fallout hurt him with independent voters and ally, who is helping trump prepare for the debate. Mate and was witH Him at Arlington Tulsi Gabbard joins me exclusively hello im Dana Bash in washington where the state of our union is grieving the loss of a fellow american we begin with the breaking news. Israelis are on the streets protesting, demanding a Ceasefire Agreement after Defense Officials said they recovered the bodies of six israeli hostages murdered by hamas including Israeli American Hersh Goldberg Polin who was 23yearsold an Idf Spokesman said hamas brutally killed the six young adults in an underground tunnel near rafah, a short time before israeli forces arrived, three of them would have been released in the early stages of a Ceasefire Agreement to israeli officials told cnn an agreement with President Biden said last night was on the verge of happeninG While Vice President harris released a statement that reads in part, the threat hamas poses to the people of israel. And american citizens in israel must be eliminated and hamas cannot Control Gaza the palestinian people to have suffered under Hamas Rule for nearly two decades here with me now is Idf Spokesman Lieutenant Colonel nadav shoshani. Thank you so much for being here. We are so incredibly devastated for for israel, for all of the families its just hard to even imagine how much Pain Everybody is in. And as a spokesperson for the idf, i like for you to explain exactly what happened when these six bodies were found thank you, dana. Thank you for having me. This is very sad Morning And Israel very sad news coming out of the Gaza Strip in announcing today after we were able to talk to the families and informed them about finding the bodies of their Loved Ones. These were six peoplE That were taken on October 7 and in our operations in rafah in an underground tunnel, we found their bodies and brought them back to israel. We examine them and we found thAt They were murdered by hamas recently and we were able to inform the families about it. Share the news today, the very, very sad news about them and just to be clear, just because we were obviously trying to get information and bad exactly how this happened. Were idf soldiers actually looking for these six hostages, or did they find them as part of a separate mission well, we have been operating above and underground in that area competent terrorist and searching in the underground tunnels, as weve done in recent weeks and offer and this is an area i remind you, its less than a mile from where we found fall hong the hostagE That we were able to rescue a live in few days ago. So there was some idea of hostages being in the area, but this was not specific. A specific mission to release hostages, but a part of our ordinary Combat Missions against hamas above and underground so you said that you believed thAt They were murdered recently can you be more specific about how recently . Well, were still examining the Inatso Operationally in the tunnel and also examining the bodies and this is a process that might take awhile and we are firstly obligated to inform the families. And then well have the information more public. But according to our initial in query of the situation, they were murdered recently by hamas terrorists. They were taking a live from israel. They were living in horrible conditions for almost 11 months and recently they were murdered by the Terror Organization and we were able to find them yesterday do You Have any idea . And i realized this is early and obviously, understandably very delicate, delicate, but do You Have any idea based on when and where these individuals and their bodies were found thAt They were murdered after hearing or sensing thAt The idf was close by i we will be able to put that information later, but i think thats thats not the question. Hamas is a terrorist organization that came to israel, Murdered Thousands of people and abducted these innocent civilian young people from party and they murdered them. And that is because they are terrorist organization. And i think i would not be the one looking for reasons for hamas, for widen this Terror Organization killing innocent civilians. One of them, an american civilian you all know whAt That was, was killed brutally. Yeah. This yeah and i just want to make no mistake about this. Cammas is a Terror Organization and they are the ones to blame for this. I guess the reason i was asking that question is whether or not they were close to being rescued. That was the basis for my question right. Where were operating and we have a moral obligation in an operational priority to bring home. There are still 101 hostages and we are working to bring them home. As we have been able to bring a few home one, just last week and were operating for that and thAt That was part of our operations in the area hoping to find hostages and sadly, we found them we found bodies, but were still operating in all parts of gaza hoping to find hostages. There are still many hostages are alive and thats why its important for us to come continue this pressure and to try and bring them home alive Lieutenant Colonel shoshani, thank you so much for being here. And again, we are just devastated by the news thank you my next guest spoke forcefully At The republican convention in july, leading the crowd in chants of bring them home here with me now are ronen and Orna Neutra the parents of israeliamerican citizen, omer neutra, held hostage by hamas. Thank you so much for being here this morning particularly given the fact that i know how close you are to all of the hostage families, but particularly the goldbergpolins the two hersh and omer, almost the same Age Omar is going to turn 23 next month and i cant imagine how difficult it must be to watch this news, knowing that your beautiful sanaas still in captivity its absolutely right, dana, there are no words for us really to comfort all the families but specifically, weve become very close with the goldbergpolins. Theyre like our family. Weve traveled the world with weve met together with leaders and were completely devastated by this news. We were holding onto this vision Thats Omer and her sharp together thAt They would come out together and its just completely devastating in a stark reminder to the conditions thAt These hostages are being held in, thAt This is a terrorist group that is holding onto them and thAt Things have to work much faster for them to come out well on that prime Minister Netanyahu said he is personally committed to achieving a deal to free the remaining hostages what is your message to him right now . You know dana, we we we are just hoping that hes doing everything he can the situation is dire. Its urgent. Weve seen him putting all kinds of hurdles we know the israeli people are going out in large numbers and calling the government to do whAt Their job is, to bring the hostages home. 101 hostages left and dying there and every day is huge risk for each one of them. So we urge him to do what is tasked to do in israel but just as well we are calling on our leaders here in united states to do what data us to do. We are calling on President Biden, on Vice President harris to do everything in our power to reach a deal and bring the hostages back we were warning about that kind of situation. Its such a risky time for all those hostages i mean, hersh managed to survive 11 months in captivity. It lost his arm and after all of this, to be killed few days, mainly before deal. Yeah. Its its really devastating really is of course it is or not. Finally, you say a verse from sam 23 every day the psalm of david to send your son protection. Can you share . What do you say before we let you go you know, i i not only say the sum you know, i pray for my son every single day. I pray for the hostages as did Rachel Goldberg you know, we we feel that were doing our share and praying and advocating and speaking up for them. Its time for the leaders to get this done and get them out. Enough is enough you know, the families have been warning about this the writinG Was on the wall and this negotiation has been takinG Way too long. They need to come out. The leaders need to do whatever needs to be done for them to come out yeah. And did i want to remind for American Living Hostages still in captivity . And i want to say their name real quick at an Alexandre Sagui dekelchen, our son, omer neutra, and Keith Siegel whos 64yearold we got to bring them home. The american administration need to come up with a plan to bring their own american home and the rest of the hostages. Of course, the deceased has hostages, that of course, brings the three deceased hostages, not a duty anytime its a must i hear the desperation and the pain in your voice and what we hear. Im sure only pales in comparison to how you feel in your hearts. 331 is on your stickers on shirts. That is the number of days youre beautiful. Sun has been in captivity with others. Thank you so much for on this very difficult day coming on. And continuing to press the waY You have been so heroically for so many months appreciate it and may the memory of Hersh Goldberg Polin be a blessing and the others we will be right back with democratic Senate Candidate Adam Schiff. Dont go anywhere ryayan and. Mikah arere Taking Onon to hotels. WhAt T if i took k On One Ofe Hotetels and youou did the o ot onones too, teteam were going be bryant 100 days, the best hotel when 100 Day Hotel Challenge special series continues Tuesday Night at 8 8 0 on hgtv i wonnt let t my moderatete to severere Plaque Psororiasis sympmptoms to fifin emerge. As, you with T Trump Momost People E saw 90 clear. Eye for r months. Anand the Mamajority S stayed Cleaear Eyee years. S. 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That is where the Goldbergpolin Family is originally from. And i want to get your reaction to the murder of Israeli American Hostage Hersh Goldbergpolin and five others. Well, when i heard the news last night, i felt sick i am just absolutely heartbroken for hershs family, for the families of these other hostages that were butchered by these hamas terrorists and it just is hard to wrap your head around. I think we all came to know hersh througH His family and its just its just devastating these sons of it did this ought to be hunted down and brought to justice no matter how long thAt Takes i hope and pray. I think as we all do that, theres a negotiated end to this war. And sun, and that not another innocent person loses their life. And i just cant imagine how his family must feel right now harris, man, you just heard the neutras whose Son Omer is also in captivity, call not just on prime Minister Netanyahu, but President Biden multiple times to do more to get these hostages, particularly americans, home. I mean, i asked her about a prayer that she says every day and she didnt shes clearly done with prayers shes frustrated. Understandably. Im hearing anecdotally from from people saying this is the united states of america and the fact thAt The american president and american Administration Cant get american citizens held in these conditions back is very frustrating and a little bIt There flabbergasted by it how can the biden Administration Answer those frustrations right now . Well, first of all, i think the parents of the hostages are doing exactly whAt They should be doing, exactly what i would be doing in their shoes as difficult as it is to imagine the horror of standinG Where theyre standing, and that is pleading, advocating, doing everything possible to get israeli government to agree to an end to the war that releases their Family Members and also call upon the president and Vice President to do everything they can. And i think they are i think President Biden and Vice President harris are turning over every stone in their efforts to secure the release of the hostages and protect the lives of the hostages and achieve a ceasefire i dont think they go a waking moment without focusing on this were going to, were not putting boots on the ground in these tunnels under gaza. So it is a very difficult situation in terms of our own ability to rescue these hostages. But i really sincerely believE That mr. Ration is doing everything possible. And and is committed not only to an end to the war in which the threat from hamas is eliminated in which we are on a path at some point. And i pray soon too. Regional. And Twostate Solution that achieves a lasting peace in the region. But i really believe theyre doing all they possibly can congressman, i want to turn back domestically to the president ial race, which is 65 days away Election Day is i want you to listen to how Vice President harris answered my question this week about a key issue in the campaign in 2019, you said, quote, theres no question. Im in favor of Banning Fracking. Fracking, as you know, is it pretty big issue, particularly in your Mustwin State of pennsylvania do you still want to ban fracking . Know and i madE That clear on the Debate Stage in 2020 that i would not ban fracking as Vice President. I did not ban fracking as president. I will not ban fracking youre a co sponsor of a House Bill right now that would ban fracking. Are you disappointed that she supports it now well, you know, i favor of Banning Fracking and i strongly believE That the pathway to attacking Climate Change is to wean ourselves off of Fossil Fuels but look, im not the Vice President united states, and i do think that when you are representing in the whole country, You Have a different perspective as the Vice President pointed out, her values though, have remained consistent and that is she is a champion of moving ourselves in the renewable energy direction. Her role in passing the inflation reduction act, the most aggressive attack on Climate Change in our history, i think speaks for itself but but look, lets lets compare a situation where someone change their position four years ago to Donald Trump who has changed his position four times on abortion in the last 48 hours thAt To me is a much more significant question, particularly as when youre talking about abortion and youre talking about a right and freedom of the american people to be so pandering, Wishy Washy flipflopping so disrespectful the rights and freedoms of millions of american women. And do all that in a single day. Thats the contrast here and whats more dana . Thats a Values Issue. Thats a Values Issue went on something like the right to an abortion. You flipflop every 15 minutes that shows essentially he has no values congressman, special counsel, jack smith, filed a new indictment against Donald Trump this week for election interference, even after the supreme Court Ruling on immunity. And it comes as to Pro Trump Organizations are slated to hold January 6 Awards Gala At Trump national Golf Club in bedminster to pay tribute to all jsix defendants. Now, trump has been invited to speak. Organizers say he hasnt ruled it out whats your Response To the fact that hes whether he goes or not, but hes allowing his property to be used for this event well first of all, Justice Department is exactly right to be refilling these charges after that just absurdly dangerous supreme Court Decision attempted to give immunity to a president to commit crimes while theyre in office. So hes right to refile these charges. But for the president to allow this event to go forward celebrating these people who beat, who gas to bear, sprayed who were responsible for the deaths of Police Officers . Who essentially tried to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power the first time in our history shows you that for Donald Trump, he could give a damn about the country, but the constitution, about the oath of office its only about him and to glorify these people, also is a green light to further violence should he lose the upcoming election. So just another dangerous disrespectful acquiescence in lawlessness by Donald Trump and his enablers congressman Adam Schiff, candidate for senate in the great state of california. Thank you so much for being here this morning thanks, Dana Up next shes helping Donald Trump with Debate Prep and joined him at Arlington National Cemetery this week, former congressman tulsi gabbard. This year, next why always s the cocouch . 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Get a free unlimited line for a year when you buy one unlimited line. Plus, get up to 800 off Google Pixel 9 phones. Switch today to the amateurs. Choose doctors preferred this is cnn the Worlds News Network are counting down to the harris trump debate. And my next guest is a former 2020 democratic president ial candidate. And congresswoman who endorsed trump this week and is helping him prepare for that debate. Here with me now, is former congresswoman tulsi gabbard. Thank you so much for being here. Vice president Harriss Campaign manager released a memo this morning saying they expect former President Trump to be a quote formidable opponent on the Debate Stage. Do you think Kamala Harris will be a formidable opponent as well . And how was the former president preparing to debate her . Yeah, i think Kamala Harris has a lot of experience. She is not to be underestimated President Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris have very different records. This is a unique situation where we have two candidates who have served At The highest offices in the land. President trump, four years as president Kamala Harris now almost four years as Vice President , working alongside President Biden and so this will be an opportunity for voters to look at and compare and contrast those records if i can be helpful to President Trump in any way, it really is just ensuring experiencE That i had with her on that Debate Stage in 2020 and frankly, helping to point out some Ways That Kamala Harris has already shown that she is trying to move away from her record, move away from her positions, and how that contradicts the positions in statements that she is making now that she is the democratic nominee . It is remarkable situation and that you are a democrat who debated her at a democratic primary and now you are helping the republican nominee to debate her. And on that, i remember in 2020, you attacked harris for being too aggressive as a prosecutor, which is the opposite from what Donald Trump is saying about her as weak on crime so, which is it what i pointed out in that Debate Stage. And the 2020 campaign was her hypocrisy. It was how she was saying one thing and doing another, how she was prosecuting people for smoking marijuana and laughing about it when she was asked about it on a radio show. And i think this goes to the heart of many of these different issues that were seeing now that Kamala Harris is trying to hide from voters is how she says her position is one thing, but our actions and her Record Show exactly the opposite. You can point to that on issues related to the economy, issues related to Freedom Of Speech. She says she stands for Freedom Of Speech and yet as weve seen, time and time again, her and Joe Biden have taken actions both directly and indirectly to censor free freespeech. Most recently, i can point to my own experience of this, of how the Harris Biden Administration have added me to a secret domestic Terror Watchlist. The very day after Kamala Harris was endorsed by Joe Biden and i was on tv and warning the american people about what i saw as the dangers of a Kamala Harris presidency taking action that was clearly political retaliation. Theyve done this to a lot of different people, which points to how dangerous it is to have people in power so willing to abusE That power to go after political opponents im not familiar with the secret Terror Watchlist were definitely going to follow up on that. But i do want to move on to what is happeninG With regard to controversy after the former president visited Arlington National Cemetery this week, his campaign took photos and video of him in section 60 where veterans and the wars in Iraq And Afghanistan are buried. Used it in a Campaign Video, the army also says thAt Trump staffers abruptly pushed aside a Cemetery Official who tried to enforce Arlington Rules prohibiting political activities i know you were with trump at least earlier in that day At The tomb of the unknown soldier. Did you witness the altercation that section 60 . 60 i was there from the beginninG With the landing of the reese with the Family Members, the Gold Star Family members, and some of the survivors of that Terrorist Attack in that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. I was with them at section 60. And what i saw was a very grave and somber remembrance and honoring of those lives that were lost cost and i saw President Trump spending time At The invitation of the goldstar families with them he was there for a few hours. I did not see or hear about any kind of altercation until something came out in the news. Later on, the families were there grieving alongside President Trump and it would was a very special moment to really remember their names, remember their memories, and understand the true cost of war and end the consequences of the decisions that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden made in the execution of that withdrawal yeah. And it is very clear thAt The former president was invited in his personal capacity, as you said by a family of one of the service members who was killed about about two years ago yeah during the withdrawal from afghanistan, three years ago, years ago, years ago. Thank you in august 20, 63 years ago the question is about the federal Law And Arlington rules that prohibit partisan or political activities at national cemeteries and the military. And also other members of other families who are buried right near there are upset about the campaign filming it and posting the video online. Do you believE That was appropriate know i checked with the campaign on this question and they have exchanges with the officials at arlington cemetery. They were approved to bring a camera. There to document this historic and momentous day that should not be forgotten by any american and to have a former president there and joining these Gold Star families, i know President Trump wanted to sharE That with others, especially given the fact that President Bidenharris, i heard were invited by some of these Family Members. They not only didnt come, they didnt even respond to that invitation and now to have Kamala Harris put this statement out yesterday saying that she stands with these families. She stands with the military and with veterans you only have to look At The responsE That came from the goldstar families of these 13 service members of how offended they were by that statement given she has not made any effort not on thAt Third anniversary or any other time to call them directly to offer her condolences and even apologies for their decisions that led to the loss of their Loved Ones. Do you think thAt The campaign well releasE That communication that youre talking about because the army is saying they already had very clearly thAt That was thAt They broke the rules because it was clearly put out on line pictures, video meant as a part of his campaign i thought they already had. I was informed thAt They had come to an agreement. They could bring a camera there. And as far as i know, in the public statements, ive seen from the army, is thAt The matter is closed i think the matter is closed about the altercation alleged altercation which you didnt see, but im not sure its closed with the idea thAt They seemed to have broken the rules and perhaps even federal law by putting out that Campaign Video i want to ask you about your years. I just like to say one last thing on this because i think its important and ive seen a lot of the headlines and the stories and the concerns that people are raising about this. But to me as, as a soldier and as someone who has beeN Deployed to different War Zones in the world and i have friends who are buried there at section 60. What is more outrageous to me is thAt There wasnt universal coverage of the momentous day of the third anniversary of the law lets of these 13 Gold Star families. And the outragE That they feel thAt Their Loved Ones are not getting the kind of Coverage And Memory thAt Theyre great sacrifice deserves that. That is what everyone should be outraged about. Well, yeah, we have covered the horrible, horrible events three years ago and ive done so several times over and over again. So i appreciate you also talking about their memories because it is important before you go. You said in an interview this week that you were interested in serving in a trump administration, potentially a secretary of state, maybe secretary of defense. Have you discussed that with Donald Trump directly . No i havent. Its important for us right now to point out the difference between Kamala Harris and president Donald Trump. What kind of President And Commander in chief they would be. And really the leading concern that i have is about this, about the contrast between their positions and their records, and the fact that as we sit here today, President Biden and Kamala Harris have u. S. Embroiled in wars in three different regions of the world have us closer to the brink of World War three and Nuclear War now than ever before, according to the Bulletin Of Atomic Scientists and this should be of concern, not just to republicans and democrats should be a concern to all americans because whats that question is our ability to have a future and to live in a free society where we can be peaceful and prosperous. Is his personal for me as it should be personal for all americans . Because it is our futurE Thats on the line here in this decision that we as voters have to make about who we want our Commander In Chief to be. Former congresswoman tulsi gabbard. Thank you so much for being here this morning. I appreciate it. 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Id want l ls lappe, eitither the me, he is se of the thehey go back theres hope, vevery little E Girl to susurpass lelets cucure childh cancer togetether. Please donat. Now when youre the leader is disaster clean Up And Restoration how do you make lagging . I have an happened happened her theres a pro the real you again you using the. Com Slash Tv on Pete Muntean at reagan national airport. This is cnn im very pro choice. There has to be some form of punishment for the woman yeah. Im also proud to be the most pro Life President theres a lot of womeN Dont know. If theyre pregnant in five or six weeks, the number of weeks now, people are agreeing on 15. And im thinking in terms of that, i think the six week is too short. It has to be more time welcome back to State Of The Union. My panel is here to discuss many things, including that got jennings, im going to start with you whats up with Donald Trump on abortion . And where do you think he actually stands right now . And most importantly, how is this affecting the conservative basE That he needs to be competent in his stance on abortion. Well, i think his position is basically what ronald reagans position was. Hes generally pro life, he believes in the three exceptions, rape, incest, and life the mother. Hes been a strong supporter of ivf technologies. Is he is conservative on it as some prolifers want him to be probably not. And that is an issue hes going to have to solve witH Him, although he does have a record of being a proLife President. And as a more conservative on It ThaN Democrats want him to be. Yes. Actually think his position that hes running on its pretty moderate and has been pretty successful for republican for a long time, going all the way back to ronald reagan, i think if i were in his shoes, i would Just Say i am generally prolife. My administration would be directionally prolife. The democrats would be directionally the other way. But i do understand thAt There are exceptions that have to be made and there are technologies that You Have to be supported, period. Its a moderate position so hes playing the gamE That he played in 2016 where hes trying to say one thing and why did on again, so they kind of hear whAt They want to hear and then another thing iN Different audience so thAt They hear whAt They want to hear it. So thats whats going on this week with this backandforth about the Florida Bill where he said one thing and then his team walked it back and then he had to clarify. So but to to scotts point, he does have a record and we should pay very close attention. He put justices who are hostile to ivf on the court. Amy coney barrett, and a federal judge aj in ohio. He also has a record of making it harder for women to get access to the Health Care thAt They need i mean, when he says hes going to have this Government Mandate around ivf, is that before or after he takes away the affordable care act, not to mention his record of making it harder for poor women to access medicaid which is both important for the full range of reproductive Health Care services including pregnancy, for poor women. So the record does matter. He is antichoice. He has appointed the justices that overturned roe v. Wade three times, republicans have tried to put forward legislation for a national Abortion Ban hard to believe he wouldnt sign that if it got to his desk as president and shermichael, i should sort of set the table here with, there is Going To Be measure on the ballot in florida, which would extend what is now a ban on abortion up until or after six weeks of pregnancy would extend thAt To 20 two or 24 weeks look, i think the former president clearly needs to moderate somewhat on this. We have a lot of data over two years as suggest. This is just not a very strong issue for republicans. But i got to tell you something, dana, i mean, as a black man, you look At The number of people who get abortions cynically speaking, the demographic breakdown. And i am concerned about the fact that you see a lot of people of color getting abortions as a conservative. Than my question becomes for republicans and what do we need to do to support policies to prohibIt This, we need to support families. We need to increase child tax credit. We need to do whatever is necessary. I would argue to not havE That as an ultimate choice or the are the first choice i should say for struggling people out there. And so Thats Something that i think about it if my democratic friends wanted to port allowing people to get abortions whenever they want them more power to them. But the republican party and conservatives need to be the party that supported its families at a Pro Pham was out of support and pro Sex Education in schools. Again, so thAt This isnt the immediate choice for peoplE That they have alternatives. Thats what i think the conservative message i want you to jump in, but i want to welcome you to State Of The Union go ahead. I dont think this is necessarily about abortion and the weeks thAt They want at six weeks, 24, this is about he productive freedom. This is about taking away Health Care rights for women to be able to make their own choices. So it doesnt matter if youre black or white. This is about you deciding to take away or republicans wanted to take away Health Care choices that women can take or to the woman can make on their own so i just think that we the weeks we can get wrapped around the axon, the weeks and the different things. But this is about Health Care choices and freedoms at women get to make about their own Body Add to thAt Though, for black women, this is actually numbers are going down but also theyre going down, but part of the reason that black in the black community for women, we have higher maternal mortality rates. We have higher rates of Pregnancy Complications with mean to exactly to meghans point, a woman has to be able to makE That decision no matter how many weeks it is. If youre for health life, Help Health or life of the mother . Yes. In some instances that may be what is required becausE Thats in some instances that may preserved this womans ability to have children in the future. And every single Human Being has a different Health Care situation. Biology thAt Their doctors should be making those decisions with them, not politicians jumping in the bedroom telling them whAt To do but i certainly disagree with karens point about the differences in terms of Health Care and peoples bodies requiring difference. Environment but my Thought Process is again, i would not prefer for this to be the Number One choice and oftentimes it is the Number One choice when i dont think it has to be the Number One choice and conservatives can support alternatives. Dana, which is my argument, i think thats what let me get scott. I think i think i think the Lateterm Question is its important to voters. I mean, look, trump is his preferred some kind of limitations on abortion. And i think harris may not want any and i do think a great many americans think there are some reasonable limits that could be had particularly around the late term issue. So i dont i dont know if its Going To Be the top issue in the election. It is for democrats, but to me, the late John Question is a big deal. Let me just quinnipiac though, just to say reproductive freedom actually is ranked very high in terms of concerns people have. I want to get your take on a moment that i found fascinating in my interview with Kamala Harris and tim walz, which is her take on Donald Trumps recent comments about her race do you suggested that You Happened to turn black recently for political purposes questioning a Core Part of your identity any same old, tired playbook next question, please know. Thats it. Thats it preview of the debate sure and a reason why Donald Trumps team is terrified of him having hot mics because god only knows the things hes Going To Be saying as somebody whos biracial, who has been, has said, oh, youre not black enough. My whole life. That is such a trope and he knew exactly what he was doing. He, but its a distraction and she understands thAt Thats not the conversation that we need to be having in this election. Its got to be about how do we lower costs for people . How do we have more affordable housing . How do we support the middle class . And she rightly, i think i thought it was important question to ask because it is something thats on the table. I thought she rightly said next question. Well, if she pivoted to the issue, she should have. I tip my hAt To her there. My advice for the former president dana will be stick to the economy, immigration and Foreign Policy were leading as a party on those issues. You win on those issues. Thats whAt The voters want to hear. Its just, its jusT Drawing a contrast between her character and his character. I think thAt Thats plain and simple for the voters that will see At The debate i dont know. I think the most important thing is somebody told her it was a change election. 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