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Sunday with manu raju, next on cnn new overnight israel covers the bodies of six hostages including Israeli American were on the ground with the latest and flipflop we want more babies to put it very nicely trump scrambles on abortion before his, for this, hes for that. You cant trust him. Well, here is confronts her past my values have not changed. Will voters buy what theyre selling . Plus Home Stretch . I look forward to the debate with her. The race enters its final phase. Joined by two quarters, who know her as best. We are running it as the underdog, but we like our and impact Dana Bash joins to discuss the interview of the year. And her new book Inside Politics, the best reporting from inside the Corridors Of Power starts now this is, cnn Breaking News the morning. Thanks for joining us for Inside Politics sunday. Manu 11 months since im asked, first attacked israel, capturing 250 hostages in killing more than 1,200 israelis. Were there 40,000 palestinians had been killed and gaza since then, according to the authorities, there are cns. Nic robertson is following the Breaking News from from jerusalem where there is still 100 hostages still on a current before 35 believed to be dead. So neck, tell us what youre learning yeah, the idf say that they were on Combat Operations and refer in the south of gaza overnight in a tunnel, they found these six hostages who they say were brutally murdered and the Defense Minister says murdered in cold for blood shortly before those troops could get to them and recover them. Their bodies were taken out, they were identified, their families informed and the nation here told this told about it this morning, it really is a Country Grieving that its a country divided the family, members of the Hostage Families to blaming the Prime Minister by enlarge leader of the opposition, benny cancers called on the Prime Minister to actually call up some of the Hostage Families, some of these six. And just listen to them. Weve heard from the Prime Ministers office. Now saying that He Has actually called one of those families and said that he regrets that he was not able to bring him home alive. But there is a real groundswell here that the finding of these six young hostages was it really shows The Deep Division in the country about how the Prime Minister is handling this. Many leaders of Opposition Parties are calling for People To come out and protest on the streets. But one of the communities here in israel, the mer there said that his, his community is going on Strike Community workers there, going on strike as from monday and of course the the the Hostage Family who is Forum Calling for People To come out and protest about the way that the Prime Minister, in their view has sacrifice the lives of these six hostages for his style and his negotiation and refusal. It appears to compromise over elements of the Ceasefire And Hostage release negotiations with hamas, hamas for their part, not surprisingly, blaming israel for the deaths of the six hostages. Money. Nick, what can you tell us about the six hostages who were killed . THe Heartbreaking three of them, hersh goldberg, Polin Aden gyros yerushalmi, and Carmel Cat were planned was slated to be released in the first round of hostages that would have been released of a new deal or humanitarian gesture, particularly in the case of Hersh American israeli hostage, wont in berkeley, california really. His family described him as a free kind, loving spirit and for so many people, not just here in israel, not just in the united states, but around the world he really became an emblem for the young people who were taken at the Music Festival for the brutality of hamas and for the bravery that he showed during that whole scene outside the Music Festival where he was trying to defend some of the other people around him, reportedly trying to throw away a grenade and you see him in the video being bundled into the back of a pickUp Truck, his left arm is pretty much missing and bloody in april this year, hamas cynically used him in a Propaganda Video to try to pressure prime Minister Netanyahu to do a deal and get the release of tHe Hostages, then you could see very clearly that He Has lost his left arm. The other hostages adam yerushalmi, she was a pilates instructor. She was one of the bartenders that remover Music Festival we know that Carmel Gat she was the daughter of that she was visiting her parents at the nearby kibbutz beeri when she was when she was abducted and she actually saw her mother being killed in the process, all of them aparT From her taken from the nova Music Festival, nic robertson, regreT For your reporting live on the ground, jerusalem. Thank you joining me now to add his insights is cnn political and national security analyst, david sanger. So david, these Ceasefire Talks have been in Touch And Go for months so what does this news overnight mean for what might happen next in these negotiations but its really hard to tell, not obviously, first, this is just a huge human tragedy. Weve had now, what 11 months that they were held in captivity, just about 11 months and they would have some of them would have been as as you just heard from nick, among the first released, which explains the anger in israel. This huge split in the government. And you saw it most vividly because the Defense Minister of israel Defense Minister, galat took off after this happened, right after prime Minister Netanyahu and basically said, israel has to reverse the decision it made last thursday. When did agreed to netanyahus additional demand that some troops remain inside gaza and so you now have the Defense Minister openly at strategic difference with the Prime Minister about how they handled this. And im sure the protests are going to be big. The difficulty is now of course, that it may make it even harder to get that agreement, an agreement that Secretary Of State blinken told us in july was inside the ten Yard Line and had they made it in the past six weeks . I think all all six of those would be alive today in three might be free. As you mentioned about that pressure that he is facing internally of the prime Minister Netanyahu how do you think given that what hes hearing internally, given those happening on the streets right now, the protests that were seeing as well, how do you think that he will navigate the aftermath of this . We know its its amazing that He Has survived every form of protest. Remember before the October 7 events, there were those huge protests every weekend a valid judicial reform as he tried to restrict the ability of the Israeli Supreme afford to overrule the government now, youre seeing these. Hes been the incredible survivor. And the reason for that is He Has been able to hold together the 60 votes he needs in the knesset to remain in Power President Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu have been at odds throughout these talks. As you know, david President Biden put out a statement last night saying, quote, make no mistake, hamas leaders will pay for these crimes. Now, a couple of harris also put out a statement last night, youve looked at theiR Approaches. What do you make of the way that they have responded to this . Well, its subtle and you wouldnt want to make too much of it, but it is interesting that the president basically put out a threat here by saying hamas leaders will pay for their crimes. Didnt necessarily indicate that that means that they would pay for it at tHe Hands of americans, but you have seen american President S in the past go after Terror Groups who killed American Citizens and certainly hersh goldbergpolin fallen was one of those Vice President harris in her statement said something that he didnt he said she said that the Threat Hamas poses this is to the people of israel. And American Citizens in israel must be eliminated hamas cannot Control Gaza. So basically, she was laying out the line that under no circumstance, could you have a Peace Agreement in which hamas could ever come back to Control Gaza . 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It appear of Campaign Events on friday a country is being poisoned, poisoned, and your schools and your children are suffering greatly because theyre going into the classrooms, are taken disease, and they dont even speak english. The transgender thing is incredible. Think of it your kid goes to school and come home a few days later with an operation, you know, i do the wave. The wave is ill talk about like nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together. Now soon trumps criminal cases will be back in the spotlight. A hearing in his federal Election Subversion Case is expected this week. In my panel is here to help me break all of this news down. Mike allen from axios, Jasmine Wright from notice the New York Times astead herndon, and the boston globes Jackie Kucinich nice to zero good morning. Good morning. Okay. So lets talk about all of this, mike, you and axios that you guys talked about, how what has been really the story of the trump years, about how advisers wanted to dO One thing, Donald Trump wants to do something else. You guys write off Script Whims are increasingly throwing mud on his advisers game plan. Have they figured out its trump and his Campaign Figure it out what the strategy is against harris. No, house thaT First next question what Trump Be trump, which is what they say because they have no choice, like thats fine in these sort of out months. But now that were down to 65 days, theyre like we have a campaign here and you were just showing some great reporting by my colleagues Sophia Cai who found that time after time, trump is undermining the Trump Campaign. So in pennsylvania, they go put a website to help people vote by mail, which republicans used to actually itd be very good at trump comes out in pennsylvania and says, well, we dont like mail voting, even though a couple of weeks ago he said that we should male votebymail, and now hes back to where he was in 2020 across the country, theyre trying to get volunteers out to get People To vote. And then trump on the stage talks about what Section Integrity trying to make it a harder to vote. He is, campaign is like, lets talk about policies. Lets not be say things that are going to get you off your track. Trump takes a vote. He says, whats have a free poll here about whether people want personal attacks or whether they want policies. You can guess how that turned out mean the Harris Campaign is more than happy for him to make try to make this a race about personality. Yeah, they want that they wanted to be a race about personality because they believed that the vice President S character is much stronger than she presents herself more president ial, less chaotic than the former president does. So theyre happy to talk about personal attacks against the Vice President. I mean, obviously, we saw in Danas Interview that she didnt want to talk about the racial attacks that hes made against her, but shes happy to talk about her own personality versus his because when theyre talking about personality, they are not talking about things that the Harris Campaign knows that harris is vulnerable on, and they are trying to go on the offensive, namely immigration in the economy. And so theyre happy to get into these personal conversations where theyre talking about heard temperament versus the former presence because they believe that the american people will see a major contrast. And that is what their Campaign Strategy is about showing the contrast not just on policy, but also about personal politics for a long time in this race, iT Felt like the Biden Campaign was the one not looking at the kind of fundamental electoral issue they had and now feels To Me like the Trump Campaign since the switch in this race has not been able to see the glaring inability for them to land some of these attacks to cut through noise. The fact that they have a candidate who Cannot Stay focused on substance cannot execute their strategy, have a vice, has a Running Mate that has consistently falling in terms of favorability the rating, and i think that it exposes the what has been true for a year or so was that Donald Trump has not been able to grow his Vote Share among the american public. Hes really dealing with the same consolidated group. And now that has been show now, He Has a canyon on the other side, has a higher ceiling. Its looking a lot more flimsy than i think it used to. And so its onus is on trump coming in into this debate to reverse the momentum of this campaign, we are certainly still in a deadlocked race. Yes, no clear leader. But the upside of where harris is is clearly higher from where the Trend Line of where the republicans are. And it is Up To the candidates to change it. And i think we have a lot of evidence now to be skeptical of, is this the same Donald Trump of four years ago, of eight years ago, we havent seen them put that together and just when you think the Gender Gap Cant possibly get worse, the former president , j. D. Vance raises his hand and keep saying things thaT Further alienates women. You have donald, you mentioned the Donald Trump abortion politics of last week that also cant possibly help whats going on. Hes trying hes trying to mitigate some some of the damage that has happened throughout the year. And yet hes finding a way still to make it work. Lets talk about the abortion. Pause before you jump in. Mike just about how He Has gone from nick pointed three Supreme Court justices overturn roe v. Wade. Then there are questions about it. He as a florida resident, good vote on affirming Abortion Rights as part of a Ballot Referendum in november, and hes been a little bit, shall we say, all over the map would your veto a federal Abortion Ban im not going to have to think about it because its working out so well right now, the states are doing it. I think the six week is two good it has to be more time at the same time, the democrats are radical because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation that so ill be voting no for for that reason, under the trump administration, your government will pay for all your Insurance Company will be mandated to pay for all costs associated with ivf and just, you know, just to make clear about the issue of abortion at nine months or after nine months, abortions, moments after birth or after birth, and illegal in the united states, despite their suggestions there to the contrary, and abortions at nine months, as trump was saying, theyre also very rare typically in cases where the Mothers Life is at risk as called the fetuss life is at risk. So thats, thats one point of fact that is important to point out. But nevertheless, all of this really underscores trumps two years after the Dobbs Decision its trump is still trying to figure out a way To Message this and knows this is a political vulnerability for him. Using democrats, look at this and say, hes trying to call Vice President harris a flipflopper he within a sentence doesnt always stay consistent the times Erick Erickson called it improvisational politics are very important Data Point that came out this week in the times sienna college swingstate polling, young Women Abortion is now in more important issue than the economy, not what Trump People will say is nO Ones voting for Trump Because of consistency, people know who he is. Nobodys voting for him because of policy thats not his base. So thats how they hope to get out of this, but he is noT Found one comfortable thing he can stick with. Yeah. I would also posit that the issue for republicans, its even much bigger than jusT Finding a Messaging Lane here there are fundamentally torn between a piece of their base who sees this as a human rights issue, who will not budge a single inch, who will pressurE Each of the politicians on this front to not only just be embracing a federal Abortion Ban or find a weeks, but to go further and further to the right, even if theyre consistently out of the place of republican opinion is. And so when we asked republicans about what they do on this issue from the local level all the way Up To Donald Trump. If you create any distance between yourself and that wing, youre going to find yourself in some trouble, even though the public has clearly stated that theyre on the opposite side of this issue. So i guess so the problem has shown most clearly through Donald Trump because He Hasnt been able to find a message on this. But i remember talking to republicans last year who frankly were just wishing that the issue will go away by the neske election. I remember Byron Donalds telling me, well, i think people wont be as motivated on republicans, On Abortion Come The General election next year. Thats just been completely ridiculous. He lives and i think just shows the larger pickle, The Party is and theyre on the wrong side. I just before you jump in, jasmine the Florida Amendment that Trump Plans to vote against, it would essentially keep in law, keep the current law in place. A banning abortion after six weeks, if you voted yes, that would ensure Abortion Access until about 24 to 28 weeks. So he is tried to distance himself from that sixweek Abortion Ban in florida, criticized Ron Desantis for this during the primary, but now hes essentially going to have to own it. Yeah. I think hes going to have to own and i think it just shows just how He Has really tried to position himself closer to the center on the issue of abortion. I think hes actually been the one person is party it was understood just how powerful the issue of abortion has ever since a 2022 elections, midterm elections that hes tried to be more moderate than the rest of his party. But i also think that this Ivf Rollout is a clear indication that they believed that regardless of whatever policies that the former president puts out, that the republicans are going to come home at The End of the day in november. And so this is he really doubling down of their idea to say, hey, look, it doesnt matter what we say, because it matters what hes going to do an Office And Youve seen him act in office in a way that emboldens people who are against abortion come with this now, come on this journey because we need to win in november. Now, whether or not that sticks, i think its plain to see, but obviously there case in point here is that republicans are going to come home. Theyre gonna double down because they want to win in november. In tHe History. And this is where the Vance Pick is a huge tell for me because i feel like if there was a really an attempt to expand out the conversation of bringing people who are different on this issue, Wouldnt Pick Someone who highlights those inconsistencies as clearly whether the Trump Campaign, newark or not, the Vance Pick has really solidified them into i think a tough corner, particularly with young women, particularly with people in the electorate that He Has not made in the tilt to really get closer to. There was opportunity for the Trump Campaign to expand its kind of aperture. It chose not to but perhaps, perhaps has for a different race. Yeah, this is before he was running and against Vice President harris. Running against Joe Biden in meantime, there was something that broke out over thE Weekend this fight between over this Trump Visit to Arlington National Cemetery this past week, of course, he went there to spotlight what happened in 2021 that Terrorist Attack that happened in the Kabul Airport in the after that chaotic bombing. It chaotic withdrawal of afghanistan, the Trump Campaign was rebuked by the army for its filming in an Offsite Air Burial site in our national cemetery, Kamala Harris put out a statement over thE Weekend criticizing the Trump Campaign for doing that trumps Campaign Trump posted a number of videos, eight videos from goldstar families over thE Weekend late last night, actually attacking harris for all of this. Its is pretty clear that the Trump Campaign, you would think that in other campaigns would say we did something wrong. But lets maybe apologize for we shouldnt have filmed in this area. They want this fight because they want to spotlight what happened in afghanistan. Hundred percent. And they know that its going to be an issue in the debate nine days from now. And that was quite a flux with the goldstar families. So the Vice President herself had been pretty quiet about this, but she wenT Full Bore Yesterday is my grandmother would say and then Trump Posting these videos very harsh, very personal, and what theyre saying about the Vice President defending him for being there. Of course, theres two questions. One is apparently theyve got permission from the Gold Star families to be there the goldstar families arent able to give permission to Arlington National Cemetery and second, if youre getting a bite with an official at Arlington National Cemetery, youre doing it wrong . Yeah. Its interesting to see their response and well see how it continues to play out. I suspect well hear more about this in the days ahead all right. 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There are many voters who do not know where she will take the country and polls showing sHe Has yet to close the deal with a chunk of the electorate. Now, in the sun belt, the polls indicate that harris is closing the gap with trump, though there is no clear leader in this week, the Rust Belt is on harris, his mind starting her Labor Day in michigan before heading to pennsylvania where she will join President Biden on the stump. But Needling Trump will also be part of their strategy. Are campaign kicks off a bus tour, highlighting Abortion Rights and plans to do that tuesday in palm beach, florida. Of course, that is noT Far from mar alago. My panel is back, so jasmine, youve been covering tHe Harris for manY Years now . Many, manY Years now buT First, lets just talk about where, how they view this moment in the campaign. Because as you can see, its deadlocked race 45, 45 is a Quinnipiac Poll thats consistent with pretty much every poll that weve seen in the aftermath of the democratic national convention. But the Sea Wall Street Journal Poll says 50 sent a voters still need to know more. Now that may seem like a small amount, but it its significant in, in a, in a closely fought race and i think that everything that shes done to now is shown this idea that they recognize that the american public needs to know more about what she would actually do in office, even if youre not getting those pointbypoint policy positions, they are trying to really firm Up The broad strokes of what she wanted to and office. I think that campaign right now as of two months, the Vice President and her top advisers, they are working towards the debate that is where their mind is no matter where you may see her today or the next two days, she is focused on the debate, but everybody elses focused on that path to 270. And so thats why theyre going places, not just democratic strongholds, obviously so you heard michigan today, pittsburgh later on today, but youre also seeing them go into places like savannah, youre going to see them go into florida. Trumps backyard because they recognize that its not just about winning over democrats, but its about inching Up The numbers in places that democrats dont normally go trying to get the Trump Campaign to spend not just more money, but spend more candidate time and places that he would likely have or He Had a fair chance of winning if biden was still on the ticket, really trying to flee that Spit Split there. How did she effectively been able to convince voters that our politics are not too the bro i mean, weve seen polls in the aftermath of the dnc that even before the dnc that there was a view that in some of these Swing States she did have to liberal politics. The number of voters do they believe as you talk to the campaign, they have done anything to put a dent in that. I think that they view the interview, they view the story they told at the dnc as kind of tacit responses to that as an introduction of someone who is basically at the midpoint of where the democratic party is. And lets same way for biden, i think by The End of his term, found himself at the middle of where The Party is. I think the difference between harris and biden are even Harris And Kind of folks who was running up against in 2019, is that they had a brand to the public. They had a story that they already knew about Joe Biden, the Country Kind of understood him to be a moderate dealmaker looking for things to get done in washington. Theres not a clear story worried that i think has been told consistently over a period of time about hurt. And i think thats where that 15 is coming from because far as much as she can say that her values have not changed the expression of those values as policy, the expression of those values is how you talk about yourself. And we have not seen the kind of consistent story between president ial campaigns. And now and i think that we cant just gloss over for that initial introduction to the public, thats how a lot of people came to really understand her Vice President ial role is one that is inherently in the background. And so in this moment right now, i think the campaign is torn between two positions, frankly putting meat on the bones to answer folks questions, to define herself, to give a kind of story to latch onto, and the fact that a lot of this unity is because shes a generic, vague vessel. A lot of downs it is being driven because a lot of people can come to her and kind of project different things. And so theres a tension between those two things right now, because one thing is serving them electorally, even though its a challenge with some of the lack of, but theyre also trying to use that my values havent changed what does that mean exactly . It could mean whatever you know, whatever whoever is watching things on mean, and this is why going back to the last segment, trumps inability to focus on Policy And Ability to have a cogent attack against her. Its an Inkind Gift to the Harris Campaign because it is allowing them to have a lot more than the loss of them to take exactly whats interesting too is we talked about the Gender Gap, the gender is a Gender Gap harris, of course, is leading trump over women by a significant margin. But what about ben . And the question about how trump is doing versus harris . Shes got hes got about a 20 point lead. Himself with men includes has been a real clear strategy by the Trump Camp young, hes been having doing Podcast Interviews and different interviews targeting that segment of male voters, young male voters in southern New York Times reports said in a story out this weekend, the Trump Campaign has been aggressively courting. Why might be called the bro vote, the frat Boy Flank is a slice of 18 to 29yearold that has been long regarded as unreliable and unreachable but that republicans believe me, just swing the election this year. Does the Harris Campaign need to do a better job of trying to court those voters who potentially could swing an election. One thing theyre doing this week to reach out to all of voters. She teased last week that she was going to have a Small Business tax cut. This week, theyre going to talk about this week. And in my conversations with his campaign, they see this as a very important moment in reaching all voters that Small Businesses, the front door to the economy for a lot of people, dry cleaner a hvac guy, like the pest control guy, Gas Company and getting to asteads point, you its going to be harder to call her a lefty liberal if shes out there talking about attack thanks cuT For Small Business. So in this voice versus Girls Election as weve called it, this is place shes hoping to reach some boys, but i also think that the main problem was not just harris it was it was something that harris inherited from biden we did the story back in june. We went to a Focus Group in North Carolina and it was all men in between ages of 18 and 50, and they were all talking about just how bad the economy is and how, how much the economy has soured them on bidens. So its not just a harris problem. Now, i think harris has a unique challenge in which that it is a lot of times difficulT For female candidates to reach male voters, particularly a black woman that may be an Issue Issue for them. So thats of course where Tim Walz is going to come in, her Running Mate trying to reach those folks in the Rust Belt, trying to potentially reach out to those rapids, but its also going to be where theyre positioning the Vice President. Are they putting her in front of the people who may not be the most direct a person to support her, but still theyre an important part of the electorate also, if, if the Trump Campaign has salivated 18 to 29yearold man and the Harris Campaign consolidates left young women, suburban women. Thats a Gender Gap that they take thats one that wins them the election, right . So im saying the problems with trump on tHe His Gender Gap. I think im much more important, but we do see the Trump Campaign making a very concerted effort. I sometimes think we dont talk about white Identity Politics or male Identity Politics in the same way. Hi, and the Trump Campaign is very clearly making a outreach to try to link this groUp Together, an actual allies them Aid And Ross lot of streamers tiktokers. Its been a concerted Effort And One that vance has spoken to his just done so as He Has been making a whole bunch of people more important than the electorate, even more upset yeah, i mean, thats the question, right. And whether or not thats theyre going to be enough to offset Harriss Margin with women voters. I mean, going after very low propensity voters is always a risk and i mean, take, take one look at his convention. The convention was i mean, they had and dana white. Yeah. So if yeah. Exactly. So it was very clear very tale of two conventions when you look at the dynamics are and what their strategy was fascinating to see. Alright, Thanks Guys for that. 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We m make Money Frfrom adsds, but theyeyT Fofollow you a around joined Th Millionsns of People T taking b their prprivacy by downloading Duduckduckgo O on all yourur de Today Y Tvtv on the edge for premieres sunday, september 22, nine on cnn it wasnt election rife with controversy, Drama And Violence to stubborn candidates at the center, Chaos And Violence erupting In The City Streets stars divide among forming among voters, all inflamed by newspapers reshaping the information landscape. Sound familiar. Im not talking about 20 20 or even the 21st century. It was a race that unfolded over 150 years ago. Similarly, up ending the way american democracy works. And what it means to protect it you might recognize my next guest who literally wrote the book on this unique moment in history, americas deadliest election from Dana Bash and her coauthor, david fester. And its out this tuesday. Dana is here with me to talk about all of this for upon your first interview ahead of the tables are turning you in that chair exactly, exactly. Well, this is fascinating. Im curious about you know, to 18, 72 louisiana governors race. What drew you to this really remarkable in store. Id never heard of it until you brought this. That makes me feel better because i didnt neither as i started learning more and more about it as somebody who loves politics, like you love history, like you, i thought, how do i not know this . Because it was so consequential. How did i get to the place where i was a part of this . Well, david fisher, who is my coauthor, approached me about it because it was political and thought will you be a good person since you cover politics to do it . Dan abrams, who, with whom He Had co authored several books brought the story to him. So that was the genesis, genesis of this. But the key is, and you just did a great job setting it up. That this 18, 72 gubernatorial election, the chaos around it, the violence around it was so consequential beyond louisiana because it was during this excuse me, it was after the Civil War and during Reconstruction And Manu at the time of course black men freed men were finally able to vote. And so the story around it was those who forces who wanted to help the African Americans vote and those mostly democrats in the south at the time, who did not and the violence around all of that can theres a through line from that . It through The End of reconstruction, which was just a few years after that. And then a about a century of jim crow laws, it all stemmed from this election and 18 72 law, that is remarkable. Theres deadly violence and led to racial violence. And there was a coup It Roku temps literally is as well look, introduces us right away to Louisiana Governor Henry warmer than how he set the stage for this. Divided deadly election. I want you to just read an excerpT From the book. You guys right . By paying the bleak is possible picture of this state when he entered office, there was almost nothing he could do that would make things worse while he would receive right. IT For any progress to save the state, he made clear he needed far more Power Than traditionally given to the governor. So what can you tell us about how the story unfolds . He was a carpetbagger from the north and went to louisiana and got involved in politics right away as a republican he was part of literally lincolns republican party. He knew Abraham Lincoln his Character Traits might sound familiar to you, manu, he eventually left the republican party or maybe noT Formally, but ran on another party in order to maintain his power he believed that the law was whatever he said it was and he changed the construct of the Louisiana Government several times in order to retain and maintain power, he encouraged violence when things didnt go his way. He understood the Media Environment and played it very well people loved to love him and loved to hate him. And his, He Had insatiable hunger for power. And that is what set in motion. So much of the violence, including the colfax massacre, which was brutal and 150, at least 150 black men were killed in in grant parish, named for President Grant and it was all about them trying to hold on to the notion of the election being stolen from them because black men were not allowed to vote the way that they should have been constitutionally already. Wow, jusT Fascinating and i want, i want to get you before we wrap about how youre last week has been youve been a little busy, a little given not on not only writing books, but also moderating debates. And hey, theres there right there on your screen, you can see the big interview that took place wouldnt you . When you when you look back at it, what surprised you the mosT From what came out of that interview . And what was your general takeaWays Takeaway. Was that they knew that they had to do this as an interview. Im grateful that it was with me because it had been so long that it becomes well deserved think excellent. Well, thank you. But honestly, one of the biggest takeaways was that moment when i asked about Donald Trumps attacks on her racial identity. And the fact that shes shut it down and said next question To Me that seemed to be something that she was planning to do. And its those few words spoke so many volumes and represents the way that sHe Has been dealing with these attacks on her since she became the nominee. And i think that probably has a preview of what we might see in the debate. Yeah, it was a really regulatory interview and thats a fantastic book, you so much for joining me. This is great to have you all should read it. Congratulations again to dana. 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