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Child care, as well as individual level, anderson, its important. I want to now its something i want every parent to know that your wellbeing really does matter. Investing in your wellbeing is not selfish it is essential, and youre also not alone in your struggles even though can often feel that way, the more were able to reach out and talk to other parents openly and asked for help. It can help us Build A Community that some of us need because parenting fundamentally is a Team Sport eat each Others Surgeon general murthy, im anand preferred amount of time. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. The news continues to source starts now straight from the Source Tonight, a battleground blitz, Vice President harris on the trail for the first time since accepting the nomination, shes got georgia on her Mind And Weve got Brandnew Polling from georgia and the swing states. Were going to talk about that coming up plus some new backlash over newly resurfaced tape of Donald Trumps Running Mate, j. D. Vance disparaging people without kids at this time though childless teachers and including our prominent source here Tonight And Brandnew reporting. Now the Trump Assassination Attempt, cnn has learned the wouldbe assassins studied a u. S. Government document as he hatched his plot. He used that document to help him. Its breaking right here tonight. Im Pamela Brown in for kaitlan collins, and this is the source On The Road again trying to make major inroads with voters in the state where she defied the odds with President Biden in 2020, that would be georgia and Vice President harris is taking her campaign through gop strongholds and southern georgia. Its part of a Twoday Tour with her Running Mate, minnesota governor Tim Walz. Their first appearance together in the State Hate and firsttime back on the trail since the convention visiting a Barbecue Joint and dropping by a High School we wanted to combine to remind you that our nation has counting on you. So proud of you and everything you have achieved and i will tell you i was in banned when i was your age i know a little bit about coach knows about players. Right . And all but you all in doing it requires a whole lot of rehearsal, a whole lot of practice but all that practice makes her beautiful music. And that is a metaphor that is symbolic for everything that you all do in your lives and tomorrow in georgia, Harris And Walz will sit down for their first interview as their partys nominees at airs 24 hours from right now, 9 00 p. M. Tomorrow night, only right here on Cnn Lot riding on that appearance for the Vice President and as the democratic ticket tries to put the Peach State back in play, a Brand New Poll Tonight shows it might already be a Fox News Survey shows harris gaining ground in Sun Belt battleground. Among them, georgia harris with 50 support among registered for voters and Donald Trump at 48 . So incredibly tight within the margin of error. So there is no clear leader, but the fact that georgia is competitive right now is big news in itself. The survey attributes harriss gains too strong support among women, black voters, and young voters so lets take the pulse of the people in georgia and beyond my Sources Tonight are multimedia Mogul Charlemagne Tha god, host of the Breakfast Club Radio Show And Author of the new book, get honest or die light. Why Small Talk sucks. I could not agree more with that sentiment. And Angela Rye you have the political advocacy firm impact strategies and the cohost of the native land podcast. Great to see you both. Im excited to see what you have to say tonight, charlemagne, lets kick it off with you. You see that poll that i mentioned earlier, its a snapshot in time, of course, no clear leader, but georgia is a swing state. Again, that was not the case of President Biden what does this signal to you . Do you think she can keep the momentum going and keep georgia and play oh, absolutely. For them. And thank you for having us tonight and absolutely knows the vp is doing exactly what she needs to be doing. We all noticed isnt a traditional campaign because it is short windows. She has so shes got a gardening, shes got to leave no stone unturned. Shes got to shake yeah, every hand shes every baby that is what campaigning is campaigning is explaining yourself and your policies that everybody you know and dont let Social Media fool you. I like the vibe. What the vibes arent going to be, what wins you this election. People want policy, people want something tangible that they can feel they can make me feel better about their circumstances and shes dont have to go out there every single day and explain and how she is going to do that for the american people. And shes doing it to bring you in those battleground polls also show Donald Trump pulling in 19 support from black voters. That is actually triple what he got in 2020 what do you make of that . What is he doing right . To win them over i dont make anything of these polls that are talking to imaginary black folks. I would love to know for one, who theyre talking to because ive not you think that they dont exert i think that they are maybe, you know what they might they might be The Invisible Man that Ralph Ellison talked about in his book. I dont know who these people are there was a Trump Ad that was released, i believe today. Thats targeting black women voters. And there are these people who allegedly exist all throughout the country and their reading scores you can see there i lied and go in over here. And i think some of them might be paid to say some of these things. Im not sure, but heres what i do know. Pam you talked about this not being the case, georgia not being the case for Joe Biden. Joe biden didnt actually win georgia in 2020. And i also want to give some credit to come harris, whos been to georgia seven times this year, right. And so i think its important for us to acknowledge the work that has been done. There, say directors talked about 35,000 new volunteers on the ground since Kamala Harris announced they have a wellover 24 offices in that state here doing the work where, do you do see with polls and what you do hear from folks who are registered voters is that the tide is changing, that theyre excited about the change, and the excitement that Kamala Harris brought to the top of the ticket. And i think we really got to give more credit to the work. Im not getting any credit to these polls. Polls ends up into been wrong all the time. Ive seen polls that say 15 , 19 , 18 of black folks. I dont believe it at all. I really dont so i want to follow up with what you had said about you know, who are these voters . As i said, that It Percent of black voters supporting trump are cnns Elle Reeve actually recently spoke to a black voter in virginia who owned the shop that sells pro protrump merchandise. Heres what she said about his outreach to black voters. And ill get your reaction on the other end i think there, if its okay succeeding tremendous like all the things that have happened to president trump, the attacks on him have done nothing more than strengthen black Peoples Connection to him because now hes someone who is the target of a struggle and they have always been felt that theyve been a target. Alright, charlemagne, what do you think about that . I think that i Cant Speak for all black people could wait, not monolithic and that, that woman cannot speak for all black people. Because were not monolithic and yeah, she sounds like to be totally honest. I think she sounds like a damn fool, but thats her opinion and i do feel like democrats democrats do oh, black people a lot. But last election, 92 of black people voted for democrats. And that has been the case for a long time. I see that being pretty much the case this year as well i want to follow up on one observation real quick. Absolutely. Did you think the message that she had on their Trump Bulletproof 2024, she should at least take them at one down, right. Like thats just tall procreate. This man just survived an assassination attempt, right . Based on reporting on this network that isnt enough herself crazy. So to nerds point about a damn fool, i would have to agree with that too. All right. Alright, so lets Go Back, charlemagne, to bring you back in earlier this year, i was going back to look at some of your past interviews youve done right . The dynamic has clearly changed, but when it was a bidenharris ticket, you said that you wouldnt support Bidens Reelection even if it meant harris was bp told politico in january that once the two gotten to the white house, Harris Quote Kind of disappear. He told politico reported that you felt burned by backing her. What is she done specifically . Now that change your view well, you know, i had an unrealistic expectation of, you know, what i expected of her as Vice President and the truth of the matter is that just comes in my belief of her, you know, if you Go Back and watch the Interview Breakfast Club in 2018, i told her then and i thought that she could be the president United States Of America One day. So i had it wasnt i had a belief in herat that you know over those threeandahalf years, over the last threeandahalf, four years, i know that that administration, you know, handcuffed her lots of what change did that shes at the top of the ticket, but her being at the top of the ticket now, you know, shes shes the shes the person saying that i believed in back in 2018 that person did not disappear over the last year, but that is the role of the vp. I mean, if youre a Vice President , you kind of, you know, i dont want to say do nothing because he did do a lot. But if you kind of like dont rock the boat and you let the president be the president. You did a great job. You did a great job let me let me just follow up with you because you said, you know, the last administration handcuffed her a lot what makes you say that . I know you talked to harris as well has she conveyed that to you . What would you say that or is it just like your observation . No, shed never conveyed that to me. I just know that thats what thats what i observed. You know, shes shes the Vice President that the Vice President s role the Vice President s role is to push the agenda of the president and you know, support, support the president. And she did that, you know, very well. But shes not shes still the vp, but shes at the top of the ticket running the bda president. And i think that, you know, over the last three to four weeks, the person that i know that thats not supporting way back in 2017. Thats who im seeing Front And Center right now. And i love it yeah. Because you had said also earlier this year, she could still pivot. It seems like what youre saying is she has pivoted to your liking . Definitely pivoted like, you know, i also said that the language of politics is dead and you hear a lot of the things that shes saying now. She is really speaking her mind like, you know, earlier today she said Donald Trump is out of his out of his mind. She should have said out of his mother after in mind, but you know, she was she was right that sentiment too. Alright. To bring you and angela because charlemagne at the beginning you said, look, she needs to focus on policy and the issues that impact the voter directly and angela, on that note, today, you have more than a dozen congressional democrats that are telling cnn that harris actually doesnt need to be specific about our policy proposals. They say this race is all about character. What do you they say to that angela i think its both and i think to the Point Linaro made earlier about black folks not being monolithic. Theres not a single type of voter that votes the exact way for the same reasons, either. So it is important for folks to get to know a Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket could start with the mere pronunciation of her name. We could start with understanding that she is actually an american citizen. We can start with the fact that shes the most qualified person to ever run for the presidency. So there are a number of do need to be factchecked and clarified. And i also think that the media has a responsibility to be fair to Kamala Harris when the nara talked about her pivoting and her being in obscurity essentially, its not because she wasnt doing the work. A lot of the work that she was doing wasnt being covered. Right . We know that when the everybody else on Social Media and there was this, this excitement around her announcement. All of the sudden the media say ratings, we going to follow this, but thats how it was happening before, right . And so i think theres an acknowledgement that we all have to make that she is doing the work she has been clear about her policy proposals, her website might not be all the way already because all of us were surprised by Joe Biden pulling out. But those things are all in the works and i think shed been very clear on this Bus Tour throughout georgia all at the dnc, shes been clearbot what she wants to do and shell continue to be clear, especially when she does this Interview Tomorrow on this network. And we will all go. I want to piggyback on. Angela rice said, yes, people want policy. I dont, i dont know who those people are that are saying that they dont necessarily want policy, they just want personality. People want policy and she has to go out there over here to talk care yeah she was she policies. She has to go out to him, continuing to talk about rebuilding the middleclass, talk about one everyone to have the opportunity to own a business, to own a home, and talking about how you want to keep Health Care and grocery costs low. Those are her position that she has to speak to that, explain that every single chance she gets because there is a lot of excitement in the party, a lot of new registers, voters biden new voters registered, but there is still a lot of undecided, there are still those hypothetical Swing Voters. There are still those independents. And if all those folks got questions, she has to answer them and that is what running for president is all about so yes, pupil want policy and they want to hear about policy. Charlamagne, tha god, angela rice, so great to have you both on. Thank you so much for your time. And up next, breaking new details on an altercation involving the Trump Campaign at Arlington National Cemetery confirmed by trump Running Mate j. D. 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And did this is cnn Brand New reporting from the New York Times tonight, the family of a Green Beret whos buried at Arlington National Cemetery is not happy about Donald Trumps photoop near his Grave Site. Maggie haberman joins us in just a moment. The Trump Campaign is defending its decision to fill when a restricted section of the cemetery or soldiers who are recently killed are buried, Npr Reports and official at arlington tried to stop trumps team from doing so on monday, but was then verbally abused and pushed by Trump Campaign staff, according to reporting, he candidate j. D. Vance, though, is blaming the media it is amazing to me that you have apparently somebody at Arlington Cemetery, some Staff Member had a little disagreement with somebody and they have turned the media has turned this into a national News Story Trump spokesman is blaming the Cemetery Official claiming that they tried to physically lock campaign staff. We should note that federal law prohibits any campaign or electionrelated activities within army, national military cemeteries, which is notable because the Trump Campaign posted this video on tiktok promoting his visit to the cemetery we didnt lose one person and then they took that disaster believing yeah i understand my Source Tonight is New York Times senior political correspondent maggie haberman. Maggie, your reporting this hour on new reaction to that tiktok we just showed. Tell us more about what youre Learning Right . So pan my colleagues and i have reporting from another family. It has soldier buried in that section 60, which is very restricted section. It is for people, for soldiers who were who died after serving in Iraq And Afghanistan for the most part. This is a family who the soldier in question, he was a master surgeon, andrew marcus sono. He died by suicide in 2020 and he had served multiple tours, combat tours, including in afghanistan, but not only and his Grave Site was caught in pictures as trump was posing with the Grave Site of another sergeant. At the same section. Now that other Sergeants Family had indeed said they would like trump as you noted, these these goldstar families welcomed him. As you also noted, the rules of the cemetery or that Campaign Photography Campaign filming is not permitted photographs that are going to be used for election purposes. And the Market Sono families certainly was not contacted. Or asked for this, but his Graves Stone is now in that Tiktok Video from behind that trump posted on tiktok, hes also the front of the Grave Site with his name is in pictures that were posted online with trump posing with a thumbs up and they were very clear the family in a statement to us that they really support this other families play and other families that lost people in the abbey Gate Bombing during in Kabul And Afghanistan but that this is a restricted area and that they would hope that everyone would be respectful of that it was a restrained statement, but it was very clearly displeased yeah. What does the Trump Campaign saying to this family, to your reporting when we ask them to respond, they would not directly address what the family said when asked about the Tiktok Video, they wouldnt address whether they would continue using the gravestone images, just saying something to the effect of, week continued honor, the wishes of the goldstar families who supported him, the former president trump, being there, which again there, their families are not a monolith when it comes to military families, when it comes to families connected to any tragedy people dont see things the same. The broader issue here is there is a federal law in place and so far the Trump Campaign has yet to provide documentation of its claim that it was permitted to do this and there was an agreement. Right. Because trumps team is suggesting that they actually have video to prove what they say happened, why not release it id like them to rely hope they would release it. They should release it if they have videos suggesting this shows the confrontation is not as described theyve claimed that they had permission to be there. There is nothing to support that i want to add one other note, pam, that was important from our story tonight, which is that we have reporting that the official in question at Arlington Cemetery should file the report, but then she declined to press charges and military official said that she was afraid that she was going to be retaliated again by trumps supporters. Its worth noting that the Trump Campaign targeted her, suggesting she was having a mental Health Episode well trump for his part also went on reposted spree today, as i know, youve seen maggie, including one that makes my stomach full sick. It involves both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris with a crude sexual reference that suggested that harris use sexual favors to advance her career. We are not going to show that post and the Harris Campaign responded to all his truth been saying, quote, Donald Trump is out of his mind but what does this signal to you about trumps thinking and how Kamala Harris is getting under his skin well, theres two things going on. Pam. One is that trump just likes posting things like this. We have seen him do this for years. This is not this extreme. This is, this is pretty explicit, but he has, he has toyed around the edges so this kind of thing for a very long time and he did something recently a similar type of repost on Social Media along these lines. I think part of it is, it just plays to what he wants to be talking about and enjoys part of it is i think that he believes that this is going to amplify or people around him believe this will amplify these claims names of his and get people talking about them. And that is always the risk and talking about these things is that it does spread into a broader audience. But i think he has been trying to bait Kamala Harris and her supporters into a fight about race, of fight about gender. And thats what this speaks to. And i think that they have for the most part ignored it all right. Maggie haberman. Thank you so much next, j. D. Vance pushing back tonight at criticism over another remarks that he wants made about Childless Americans calling out my next Guest Byame Tomorrow the most anticipated interview of this election, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz sit down with Dana Bash for the first Interval Harris and Walz A Cnn Exclusive Tomorrow at nine the diary. This did i get it kicks. Where are my keys . Memory and thinking issues keep piling up it may be due to a buildup of Amyloid Plaques in the brain. Is it more than normal aging . Tom just what relax. You youre found the right model for sure now, how can you be sure youre getting the right deal . I have to talk to my bestie hey girl this ones like your last boyfriend. 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Vance is facing some fresh scrutiny for yet another disparaging remarks he made in the past about people who arent parents vance, of course, has been criticized for his 2021 dig at quote, childless cat ladies, its a comment that he says was a sarcastic joke aimed at democrats. But in a newly resurfaced video from that same year, he blasted a Teachers Union President for not having children of her own so many of the leaders of the left. And i hate to be so personal about this, but there are people without kids trying to brainwash the minds of our children and that really disorients me and it really disturbs me. Randi weingarten, who is the head of the most powerful Teachers Union in the country. She doesnt have a single child if she wants to brainwash and destroy the minds of children, she should have some of her own and leave ours the hell alone well, you just heard her name there. My Source Tonight is Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation Of Teachers high randi. Youre shaking your head. Whats your reaction . I mean, look i used to rightwing taking shots at me. I mean, they dont like unions and they dont like public schools told us that and theyve said, you know, Chris Rufo and others that theyre going to try to create great public school distress. So im used to that but this is whats so crude and gross about what he did here where at the start of the School Year teachers and parents need right now to really connect with each other so that we can help kids engage. Thats the number one thing that parents want of public schools for their kids. They want them to thrive. They want them to engage, they want them to have a love of learning. So when the guy whos running for Vice President now takes on every teacher who doesnt get who he thinks doesnt have kids, by the way. I have kids by marriage, but every teacher thanks doesnt have kids and takes on every modern family at the same time, takes on catholic nuns, takes on new teachers who havent got married. It i mean, what is he doing . What is he thinking . But for me, whats worse about this . Is that it makes it harder for teachers and parents. It makes it harder for kids when he goes on with this rubbish thats whats bad about this. He knows better than this. You should take some responsibility, at least at the start of the School Year, as were trying to really help kids get into school again and he made those comments and 2021, but he had more to say double down them to that. Yeah. Exactly. He doubled down. He didnt shy away. You didnt apologize. He didnt you know, lets actually listen to it and then we can talk about that at the other side. So lets listen i mean, i didnt criticize Randi Weingarten for not having kids. I criticized her for wanting to brainwash mind is that how you heard it that he he wasnt criticizing new for not having kids well, first, he criticized maybe he didnt listen to his own tape from 2021. But the fact he doubled down on Teachers Today and, you know, its just but said it like he has no idea how i teach and what i taught you should have come into one of my classrooms love. If i may be teaching. Again, this spring, College Teaching this spring, ill invite him to a classroom. I taught at cornell last spring. My kids just fyi were Champions State and City Champions in the constitution and the bill of rights, we teach kids how to think, not what to think. Week teach kids to two critically think. We teach kids compassion. Weeps, teach kids karen, we teach Kids Communication skills we teach Kids Skills so that they can thrive in america. Have no idea why he would even think that that kind of teaching is brainwashing i think there must be something wrong with this guy well, you have invited him now on this show to sit in one of your classes will see if he takes you up on that invitation. Randi weingarten. Thank you so much. Well, lets dive in with two of the best in the business, Kristen Soltis Anderson Republican Strategist and pollster, and simon rosenberg, a veteran democratic strategist all right, so lets Dive Right in. You just heard that conversation i have with randy and you do have to wonder how much these comments that are now resurfacing from j. D. Vance these having to respond to on the trail is impacting him in terms of the polls. So when you look at the latest polling right now, can you discern if j. D. Vance is helping or hurting trump as his Running Mate. So i still believe that for the most part ill the punditry about how much did the Vice President ial Candidates Matter . They still matter. I think very little, right . Donald trump is such a force of nature, such a polarizing figure you love him or you dont, that he is really, really, really the driver of whether you are going to pull the lever for Donald Trump. If you may be liked Donald Trump is somebody like j. D. Vance really going to turn you off or are you already have decided what type of politician you like . What i think is so frustrating about that clip that you just showed is right now, republicans have an advantage on a lot of issues. The economy, issues like immigration and every time clips come up, were instead theyve gone for a personal attack instead of something thats really rooted in policy, even if they can claim its taken out of context, et cetera. Its meaning that theyre not fighting on the most effective battlefield. That means that theyre not doing the sort of thing that actually is going to bring in those voters who maybe dont love their options, but are looking for whos going to agree with them on the issues every time you make it personal, you are getting away from policy and you are making it harder for those Swing Voters to come to your side. And were going to dive a little bit deeper into it to crime and the economy, what voters think about that, but simon, the latest Fox News Poll shows and four battleground states, Tim Walzs Net Favorability is up. I believe three points while jd vances underwater by five points how much does this actually hurt or help the total ticket in terms of votes, you heard what chris had to say. Do you agree with that . I think i think hes a drag on the ticket. I mean, first of all, we know that he is j. D. Vance, j. D. Vance is the most unpopular Vice President ial pick in modern polling history. And hes also generating a lot of negative news. I mean, the other thing is that these old stories like tonight, this is like every couple of days theres some crazy statement he made in a podcast or white Wing Event that is creating negative news for the Trump Campaign. So hes not helping the Trump Campaign. I think hes continuing to drive it to the right to make them look like extremist. I mean, when Kamala Harris said the other night that what was the line to use that theyve gone crazy about this kind of stuff that he was talking about. I think its reinforcing the extremism of the ticket. And there was no Olive Branch but she could have picked trump could have picked a vp that could have been an Olive Branch, never trumpers or independents. He doubled down on Extremist Maga politics. And so i think this was a huge mistake and i think its hurt the Trump Campaign. And of course he doubled down with the vance pick, right . Because Joe Biden was still his Running Mate. He thought he started Running Mate. His opponent they handed the bag, obviously, things have changed now with Kamala Harris as the democratic president ial nominee, when you look at the polls on those key issues, as you were talking about the economy and crime trump has generally lead harris and pulling on these issues. The latest reuters ipsos poll showed her gaining on him though, on the economy, trump previously had an 11 Point Advantage on crime. He was leading by five points. So now its even can this momentum keep going or do you expect things to settle . I think voters are still trying to figure out who Kamala Harris is. I think things like the interview that happens on this network Tomorrow Night are going to be really informative for voters who are trying to figure out what does Kamala Harris really stand for . Because she stood for isnt the past that she says she now doesnt stand for. I think sorting some of that out will be very informative. But the reality is that voters are looking for change and whether they view her as a breath of fresh air, somebody whos new. Oh goodness, i didnt want a trumpbiden rematch and now we finally have another option or Shes Part of the bidenharris administration. Do they view her as more of the same . That is, i think the axis on which this whole election is going to start to turn. Yeah. When you look at this interview Tomorrow Night and the stakes as you laid out there, chris its a huge deal. Stakes are high for Kamala Harris also, Tim Walz, i mean, hes relatively unknown as well. Right. So It Tooth for both of them and it can really sway how things go from here on out. Yeah. Listen, i mean, this has been so wild the last few weeks. Every day, were learning more about what the Harriswalz Ticket is going to be and what theyre fighting for. And so far things are going unbelievably well for us. I mean, we had a great convention last week. Theres unprecedented and susie has and the money thats being raised as remarkable, theres been about a six to seven Point Shift and national pollings towards us. Those Fox Polls were very encouraging for us. We feel good about where we are. We feel good about our ticket, the democratic party this was my ninth convention, and ive never seen them are Colleague Party more excited are unified than it was last week but i heard i heard him not to say that this summit, that something horrible is going on at the rnc. Everyone was saying, this is the best weve got it all look where things are now beginning to stay with anything wrong. Answer. In this view Tomorrow Night. But i would much rather be us than them as we go into this close. I mean, i think one of the things thats going to become more apparent is this, all this money and these volunteers that we have are just going to make. Were going to have a more powerful close in these final few months. Of the election. And i think we have a look. I also think that Kamala Harris tapped into some very powerful emotions and sensibilities that are very american. This idea of Freedom And Opportunity and all the american flags you saw the veterans. Shes tapping into deeply patriotic and love of Country Sentiments that i think youre going to carry us through election day. And so we feel good about where we are. We got a long way to go, but we feel good. We had a long way to go. All right kristen soltis anderson, simon rosenberg. Thank you so much. Up next newly released video of former House Speaker Nancy pelosi hours after the January 6 attack declaring Donald Trump must pay a price how long have you been here . I dont know what did he say what is this place watchers dreaming august exclusively on max you might be used to living with your Albuterol Asma Rescue inhaler but its a bit of a dinosaur is it only treats her symptoms not inflammation. 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Good to the capital, to the my Source Tonight is democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin, who served on the January 6 Select committee great to have you on congressman so republicans are now using this footage that was released or republican led committee to blame former Speaker Pelosi for the attack pointing to moments like this we have a Responsibility Terri we did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have this is ridiculous. Why werent the National Guard there to begin with they thought that they had sufficient not a question they dont know they clearly didnt know. And i take responsibility for not having them just prepare because its duplet should be in a situation because they thought they had what they thought these people would act civilized these, not these people gave us damn now i should note the speaker of the house is not responsible for capitol securities. She also complained the national Guard Wasnt there sooner, undercutting this idea that she blocked them. But im do you see how or do you agree that this gives her critics on the right ammo . No. Only if you rip it completely out of context. Remember that Donald Trump sat on his hands or sat around on his couch watching the violence unfold from his Oval Office Suite and refused to send out the National Guard. So i think the point Nancy Pelosi was making was why did we ever trust Donald Trump and the Executive Branch of government to help us . We should have insisted from the beginning that they send the National Guard out and in the future, obviously we will have to do that since theyve created a new low for standards of political behavior in the country. Remember americans never seen anything like what happened on January 6. The closest was in 18 61 when Abraham Lincoln was elected in there were pro confederate, Pro Secessionist forces out there but general Winfield Scott said, if anybody tries to get into the building that he would release the cannons on them and manure the fields of arlington with their bodies but we didnt have any support like that from the Executive Branch of government. And despite all of the desperate calls for the National Guard to be sent out, not just by democrats, but by republicans who got trump on the phone. Trump did nothing. So i think she if she expressing and exasperations it was we should have known that Donald Trump was capable of anything, and we should have tried to deal with this problem before the rose. Let me just follow up with you because the republican led committee that obtained this video says the January 6 committee actually had this same footage that we just showed, but chose not to release he said theyre trying to say that the January 6 committee didnt release it because they thought that it would make them look bad or working against their case. What do you say to that . Why wasnt it released by the committee . But i never i never saw that in of course, we have thousands and thousands of Hours Worth of video footage. Most of it offered by Incident Direction lists and proud boys and Oath Keepers themselves who were filming and documenting everything. Look, this is an attempted to cloud the issue and confused everybody knows happen. Donald trump got to the Concerned Women For America First and the other rightwing groups and said, no, dont rally on january 20, rally on January 6, this Thing Isnt over yet. He went on Social Media and promised his followers a wild event. Then he wrap them up with a speech that used the word fight. A couple of dozen times and said, youve got to go and fight and fight like hell. And if you dont, youre not going to have a country anymore, then he unleashed the the Maga Mob on the capitol on his own Vice President in the middle of the attack on congress when he drove us out of our chambers, they were chanting, hang Mike Pence, hang Mike Pence. And Donald Trump tweeted out Mike Pence did not have the courage to do what needed to be done. So if afterwards we were saying my god, how did we learn . But Donald Trump get away with this. We should have insisted, we should have made it a fight over the National Guard beforehand. Thats understandable. That hardly makes us responsible for Donald Trumps incitement of violent insurrection against the union and to send out to defend us because weve covered January 6 what but on that note, everything you just laid out there. Right. And now you have Donald Trump on the trail saying, once again that the election is rigged. If i lose, i mean, he said it repeatedly now, i mean, he is laying the groundwork in the same way he did in 2020, in the same way he did four years before that right and President Biden, when he was running for office, focus a lot on trump, being a threat to democracy. He focus a lot on January 6, and this kind of rhetoric from trump, youre not hearing that focus that messaging from the Harris Campaign do you think thats a mistake or do you think thats the right move . Hello. Im hearing it loud and clear. I mean, but what im seeing is the Harris Campaign properly laying out what the relationship is between Democracy And Freedom democracy exists to protect our freedom is Abraham Lincoln said it is the beautiful Silver Frame upon which the goldman an apple of liberty rests. And the Rule Of Law is there to protect our democracy now, Donald Trump and his Cult Of Personality is against all of them against our freedom as we saw by him Packing The Supreme Court to destroy Roe Versus Wade against our democracy as we saw on January 6, and against the Rule Of Law as he tramples it every single day, and he is a convicted felon himself. So weve got to defend the Rule Of Law, Democracy And Freedom at the same time an insurrection is no trivial matter from the perspective of the founding fathers in the constitution, i can find you a Half Dozen different places in the constitution where insurrection is specifically forbidden and opposed for example, article one, section eight because congress has the power to call forth the malicious of the states in order to suppress insurrections. Section three of the 14th Amendment says that anyone who swears an oath to uphold the constitution and violates it by engaging in insurrection, shall never be allowed to hold federal or state office. Again, this goes right to the Heart Part of our constitutional compact. And this court has has made judgments on some of this, and we should note that Jack Smith did not actually charge him with incitement of insurrection, but i appreciate that history lesson, Congressman Jamie Raskin well, yes, we got we do have to go it was impeached by the house for that. He was impeached by the house. That is true. But not convicted. Alright. Thank you so much, congressman. Great to have you on up next Breaking News on the Trump Assassination Attempt with cnns John Miller tomorrow. The most anticipated interview of this election. Kamala harris and Tim Walz sit down with Dana Bash for the first interview. 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What can an ied be made of in terms of energetic material, meaning which are the best explosives the Fourpage Document is still on line on the Dhs Website and the question that we asked the department of Homeland Security since according to our sources, the gunman didnt just have this in his searches he downloaded images of all four pages and he kept the document indicating he wanted to refer back to it. Is does this document have too much information . Jin for a document thats not Law Enforcement sensitive, not just meant for Bomb Squad Community people, but for anybody with a google search. The department of Homeland Security answered by saying, the department provides information the american american public to protect against a range of Security Threats, which is not exactly the answer to our question. Did it have too much information in it and this potentially could have led to i mean, two a very serious Security Threat well its an interesting, its an interesting debate in that you know, its a Step Board and transparency. But perhaps a step forward for too far. And the research he did into explosives included a lot of the elements that this Document Kind of set forth out. Basically indicating this is what you would need to do in terms of steps and what youd need to know versed so i also want to ask you about these new pictures coming in that we have from the fbi of the gun that the Trump Shooter were you see, had explosives in his car. We know how much worse could this have been given what we know now . Well, i mean, what we learned from the images is that, this is an ar 15 platform and people wondered, why could he, how could he walk around in that crowd with a car full of explosive . So it was remotecontrolled bombs, which of course he probably learned about by studying those points on the internet. How can he walk around with a rifle and not be spotted by police or all those other people. And the second picture they gave us, which is the rifle deconstructed the beryl has been removed, the stock has been folded back shows that it would have fit inside that backpack, which would have allowed him to be undetected, climb up to that roof and that he was only there for six minutes from the time he climbed to the Roof Cross multiple rooftops that connected and then open fire with those eight shots as police tried to close in yeah. These developments certainly very chilling. John miller. Thank you so much for bringing us your latest reporting and giving us your insights. We appreciate it. Thanks, pam and thank you for joining us. Cnn newsnight with abby. Phillip starts now Night Battleground Bus stops kamalas