Trolling trump, the Harris Campaign tonight, taking on the former president as he threatens to drop out of the upcoming debate we have some new reporting this hour on whats happening inside the trump campaign. Plus carville and begala together again, out, why they both insist trump is still going to dump fans. But tonight, they actually have an idea for who the replacement for vance to be and Breaking News this hour, two major developments on the trump legal front tonight is doj is trying to revive the Trump Classified docs case lets go by friends and good evening. Im erin burnett and outfront tonight, trump threatening to drop out of the upcoming debate. The former president casting doubt about whether he will in fact debate Vice President harris. That is scheduled to take place on september 10, the participate in the abc debate. When you watch this weekend and its the worst of all networks. When i looked at the hostility give that i said, why am i doing it . Lets do it with another network. I think abc is really should be shut out and trump was then later on still using the word if obviously this is a debate that his campaign has already agreed to they flew almost 1 Million People in over the border. They flew that stops all of them. I shouldnt say this because if theres a debate it would be nice to surprise her with that one if there is a debate, you heard that the crucial word there. Now harris, his team when it comes to this day, which as i said scheduled, they are now asking that the microphones beyond throughout the debate, which is a change from the rules that the campaigns had agreed to and from the rules of the cnn biden biden trump debate. And Trumps Campaign is saying no. They want to stick with the agreed upon rules on this debate that may or may not happen. But trump himself seems to be saying yes, open up the mics i dont know. Doesnt matter to me. Id rather have it probably on, but the agreement was that it would be the same as it was last time. All right. Now, thats true. But the Harris Campaign is now open to a changing, so theyre trolling trump. Heres the Campaign Communications director for the Harris Campaign unless donald trump allows his handlers to overrule him, well have a fulsome debate between the two candidates with live microphones those words coming after a statement from the Harris Campaign which said, our understanding is that trumps handlers prefer the muted microphone because they dont think their candidate can act president ial for 90 minutes on his own, just to be clear, obviously, using the word handlers is obviously just purely intended to get under his skin. And theres a reason why open mics have well, actually, you would think he said at times they could have gone badly for trump. They havent though these moments that im about to play for you in the past have not done badly for him things may though have changed. Heres what happens when the mics werent muted. Donalds supported the invasion of iraq, wrong . That is absolute wrong, proved over and over again my Social Security payroll contribution will go up as well, donalds, assuming he cant figure out how to get out of it. But what we want to do is to replenish the searching fun vote and let your senators know how you feel it let vote now in a pack to make sure you in fact, let people know he doesnt want to senator russia. Im not going to answer the question because the question the Question Justice the rational left, will you shut up . Alright, thats what has happened in the past on the mics have been open Steve Contorno is outfront in st. Petersburg, florida. Hes covering the trump campaign. And youve got new details tonight, steve, i know trump has hinted there that he could drop out of the debate you are reporting that hes aggressively ramping up his Campaign Schedule which as opposed to lets just say preparing for the debate. And i know youve been talking to your sources tonight. What are you learning in this debate over debates is taking place in the context of a race that donald trump is very much struggling to adapt to. He in many ways its still running a campaign against President Joe Biden and we sort of saw some glimpses of that today. He was appearing at Arlington National cemetery and in michigan to mark the occasion of the third anniversary of the attack and afghanistan at the airport there that left 13 soldiers dead. And this is a point that was a real focus of his Convention Last month. And there were some of the most emotional and effecting mon, moments of that convention was when these gold star parents were on the stage talking about what it was like to go through that, what is what it was like that their children didnt come home and really putting the blame on joe biden. The problem is joe biden is not the opponent anymore, and donald trump has had difficulties shifting his focus from joe biden to Vice President harris especially hes trying to basically run the same campaign. He ran against biden against her and today was another example of that. Hes also tried to tie her to biden his economy, to bidens immigration policies to biden on inflaon. So all these examples, however, just further to find a way to that so far has not yielded much results for him and as we repoed today, he is ramping up his schedule because his campaign is acknowledging for t first time really that they have failed to match the enthusiasm of harris. And theyre going to be more aggressive icombating that going forwa. Erin. Alright, steve, thank you very much. And obviously thats an important detail, lulu ganao, i mean, obvisly, Anybody Running against Kamala Harris woultry link her to the adminiration of which she the vp. Fa game on inflati and the border but to the running ainst, bid. Is sortas of amazing. I mean, yowoul ve thought that least two to go wi t way hes be in thpast, he would be more quick footed about adjusting it, but seems reporting shows no i mean, he is really struggling with trying to figure out how to define her and the window its closing. I mean, we have i think only two to three weeks before people start early voting in mid september. And some of these key states were really only trying to persuade only a real, a ny aunt of people when you think of the trump campaign. And the hais campaign. And so i think at this point this debate was going to be crucial. It was the next test. And the fact that he is saying he might not do it under what circumstances will they do . It really shows that this is hers to lose at this point. I mean, if you think about them on the stage together, he is an almost 80yearold man and he is going to suffer from the same thing that biden suffered with him. She is 20 years his junior. He looks like the past and she looks like the future. So for our rural congressman Scott Taylors with us as well, republican congressman. What do you make scott of his inability thus far . To defe her and to shifhis strategy mean weve all seen it. I dont know. Have you been as surprised as some of us have been about the kind of slowness with which he seemed to adjust its great to be with you, of course, as always actually know. I mean, i think that i think the president and republicans knew that when kamala came out when the vp came out and announced her campaign, she was going to get a massive amount and barrage of positive media. And thats exactly whats happened. Of course, she was going to get a bump with the dnc because all the attention was going to be there i think that we understood this, but in my opinion and many other opinions shes peaked and i think the president understands that as well. I mean, listen, shes as weve talked about many times, and youve talked about shes not here. Its not meeting with erin burnett. Shes not shes not sitting down and speaking with you. I think when moving forward, what do we 36, 30 seven days now where she hasnt sat down and then any interview with anybody yet, thats a free pass. And quite frankly, its an indictment on the media and journalism not to sit her down and talk to the American People deserve, they shouldnt have to settle. They deserve to hear from her. They deserve to for her to answer tough questions just like President Trump is done, right . But what happens, Congressman Rose . Democratic, former Democratic Congressman, when Congressman Taylors argument goes away on that one point because its going to go away. Going. To do an interview. She was supposed to on by the end of the month. Now, tonight theyre saying theyre going to schedule one by the end of the month. I mean, look, she should have done one already, but if she comes out and does it, then thats gone. Then okay. Shes done the inner look. My my republican friends because remind me of what my fouryearold looks like blindfolded with china, hit the pin yada at his Birthday Party right there constantly swinging. One day its about shes not doing in interview, which is ridiculous. The campaigns 30 days old and shes constantly out there and she will, of course, do an interview very shortly the next day, its about inflation, but and the numbers are looking far, far, far better a smooth landing is obviously here. And so they move on from that, their flailing and the reason why they are its because theres one thing they do not want to talk about. And that is their actual agenda. There antifreedom agenda that well have actually do nothing to provide Economic Opportunity for people. And thats why you see this ridiculousness. But is the basis of their talking a little whats interesting though, at least to this point, i mean, you just mentioned something policy oriented. Scott mentioned zain policyoriented thats not what this has been about. Okay. Not at all. Not or whether thats an indictment on all of us, the american it just hasnt been its been on a vibe and a feeling and what a very different thing. So now you have trump ramping up steves reporting, his its going to ramp up big time in the battleground states this week, she isnt she has been really pulling back and hasnt been on the Campaign Trail because shes been preparing for the debate do you think that him ramping it up in rallies is going to make a difference . I do. I actually think this is what he needs to do. He is best person to person. He is trying to get the people that support him out. Ultimately, i think that this election is going to come down to who shows up at the polls and you think its a turnout . I think its turnout election. I think its going to be extremely important to have people come that support him and he needs to be showing up and doing what he hadnt been doing actually up until now and he needs to be everywhere all at once. The fact that shes taking a break and sort of cutting into her momentum might not be the best strategy in the short term, but i think what is going to but what youre going to see in the long term is that shes moving to georgia. Shes going to be taking her show on the road and she is going to have to sit down to talk to the media. And i just want to just respond to something else. I mean, i dont think it is an indictment of the media. I think everyone in the media, all as journalist have been saying, please come and have an interview with us. Thats coming out that table and we can die or down and make her do it right . Right. And she will do it and then itll be was it to i mean, i understand where the conversation will go. Cars, women, taylor, but theres also the what trumps doing where hes doing his interviews. Wed love to talk to trump too. I see him on fox news. I havent seen him here yet. I hope he will the Harris Campaign, Congressman Taylor posted a video today, really, its all about getting under trumps skin. It was about the debate and whether hes going to do it or not, which you know, i just was laying out but hes now raising the specter that he wont they put the caption under this, you scared when we play it for you . Why not debater but because they already know everything dropped she around not doing the debate as same thing. Now. I mean, right now i say, why should i do it the debate of leading in the polls . And Everybody Knows who Everybody Knows me you heard the Chicken Track there congressman okay you know that it makes people laugh. It gets out there. Congressman taylor, is it effective . No, i dont think so. I mean, its just silly Campaign Stuff to be honest with you. I mean, listen, they dumped there, they tested their candidate. There president , our president. They dumped him, they dumped democracy, dumped millions of democratic primary voters at the debate. They saw the rules, they probably started debate prep with the vp and realize that shes not very good. So now they want to change the rules walz was the debate. Listen, i understand the president would be skeptical of abc. I just watched the interview with senator cotton and jon karl and jon karl was defending the policies of the vp, not the vp. Jon karl, im supposed to be a moderator and the debate and there was a video that was that he said that that she didnt take deposition, which she maybe speaking out of turn here, i buy first of all, thank the world of jon karl. First of all, i also dont i dont think hes a moderator. I think its david muir and linsey davis. If im correct. But just just to be clear on that, but maxim me give you a chance to respond trump is so incredibly transparent, right . Hes transparent about the fact that hes a very racist. Hes transparent about the fact that he absolutely hates veterans, desecrates their service on the continued basis. And now he is just transparent about the fact that he is afraid of debating the Vice President. And he is a chicken sorry, i mean, theres no better way to describe it. Fleas is good to see you. My friend all right. We hit pause on that. Thank you. And well look for to having all of you back next republicans laserfocused on Kamala Harris and the migrant crisis, right . Shows should she at this point now visit the southern border and do it really soon . Im going to ask the illinois governor jb pritzker, who is state faced a surge of Asylum Seekers and trump in Rfk Junior Lavishing praise on each other, but cnns kfile has gone through history and has some new reporting tonight on how kennedy has said he truly feels about trump i think donald trump is a terrible president. 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Us, to the next level hard knocks Training Camp with the Chicago Bears streaming exclusively on max tonight, Republican Zeroing in on Kamala Harris and the border we have a secure border oh, boy, camila lies about the border to lies about higher prices. Commonwealth lies a lot it comes as even democrats are urging harris to visit the southern border, something that she has done once as Vice President i wcounsel hurd say yeah, lets make a trip down over. At should e do . What trump is doing, andisit the border i mean, i think that would be helpfuloutfront. Now the democratic governor, jb pritzker of illinois, p as of the border crisis firsthand, at least 47,000 migrants have come to chicago seeking asylum in the last two years alone. And governor, i really appreciate your time. Your two colleagues, i played there, Democratic Congressman Gerry Connolly of virginia and dan kildee, Democratic Congress its been from the state of michigan. They both say, go ahead, she needs to go just do it, get it over with, rip the bandaid off. Do you think Vice President harris should make a trip to the southern border and do it soon. Well the important thing is that she ought to be addressing the issues at the border, which by the way, she and President Biden have been weak. Weve seen the effect of that in chicago when donald trump told republicans to walk away from the republican proposed bill that had bipartisan support for Border Security thats a moment when we could have given up. But no, joe biden and Kamala Harris came out with a set of policies and Executive Orders that have helped a lot. Now you cant complete the job until you get congress on board with comprehensive Immigration Reform or Border Security bill and Kamala Harris said at the convention, she will sign that bill. You send that bill to her desk. She will sign it. So i think that weve got a real message on immigration and whether she goes to the border or not thats what people want to know. Alright, so obviously all of this took time and when the bill failed, then months went by, then an executive order. And over this time, governor, you spoke out because you have been on the front lines of what this means as migrants have moved into many cities, including yours in chicago you specifically said that the administrations response the lack of action was quote, untenable. Now, of course, Vice President harris, as Vice President , the most senior person in the Biden Administration tasked with border and migrant related issues. But she did only visit the border once as Vice President , about six hours is what she spent on the ground in el paso do you think that has made her vulnerable now well, look, you dont have to be there to know there is a problem at the border that needs to be addressed in general, this is a 40 year problem republicans and democrats have been unwilling to get together on Border Control and on comprehensive Immigration Reform. And joe biden tried to get people together to do something about. In fact, he campaigned on it. And republicans refused. And then finally put a Border Security bill on the table or republican written Border Security bill so look, whether youre there or not there. I mean, of course, visiting the border is one thing to do to draw attention to it. But the most important thing that she can do is have a policy that will actually make a difference. And thats what she proposed shining when she was up there on stage giving her acceptance speech. So obviously, Trumps Campaign super pac has been hitting her on this issue. Theyve been here on the border, that but also been hitting her on the economy. Trump himself, though, has not done as much of that governor. Hes actually resorted in many instances, just a personal insults here. He is just today why does she do a couple of question as to why does she do Something Like, im doing right now . She cant dock we can another dummy is a president shes not a smart person governor trump prides himself on his political instincts. So he obviously thinks talking like this is going to work. Do you think it will . You know, this is a guy, donald trump who sits around all day watching fox news and doesnt actually do much. He hasnt done many of these events. These major addresses over the course of his campaign, and its only now that it appears that hes either even or bind that he now has complaining hes got to go out and do some work and hes basically saying Kamala Harris needs to do more. The truth is that shes answered questions along the way. Youve seen her do that when shes getting on and off of Air Force Two or helicopter are moving from one place to another. Has she done a sitdown interview . Since by the way, she only got the nomination the other day and has only been the prospective nominee for about 30 days does she need to sit down for an interview . Of course. And theyve said theyll do that all right. Well, i appreciate your time, governor pritzker, as always thank you. All right. Next, paul begala, james carville. Were united here outfront. Theyre back again and they still say vance should watch his back when it comes to trump. 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And this is cnn new tonight, donald trump showering his former 2024 rival, robert f. Kennedy jr. With praise after his endorsement and not ruling out a Cabinet Position for kennedy if trump wins are you considering appointing rfk juniors or Health Secretary if youre reelected, we had a joke about it, but he knows a lot about any hes really been wellreasoned she by the party whos a great guy very well received okay. That comes though as cnns kfile has uncovered a long list of examples of Kennedy Attacking Trump and no ambiguous terms. Weve heard some of that criticism in fact, right here outfront its were trying to overthrow the election clearly is threat to democracy. Im not going to defend President Trump on that. That was appalling. And theres many things that President Trump is on that are balling trump does a lot of things wrong, and i call them on it alright kfiles Andrew Kaczynski is here with more so. And do we just played one of them that was an appearance he did here sitting in that very chair. But he has a long history that you found of going after donald trump, who has just endorsed for president. Thats right, erin. And this is a stark change from how rfk junior u. S. To talk about donald trump, he called them a terrible president he called them a threat to democracy. He even said that he brought the entire american experiment with democracy into disrepute and it wasnt like he was just saying this in 2015, 2016. Okay. And then he came around to donald trump. He was saying this in 2016, 2018, 20, 2020, 2022, 2024. And by the way, last week her last yes. Exactly. Exactly and when he was endorsing trump, he one of the things he said was that trump was going to take on special interests when one of kennedys main criticisms of donald trump has been that he turned over his administration too special interests. Take a listen to, just a few of those comments i think i dont trump was a terrible president. He wasnt draining the swamp he was turning the government over to corporate pirates. I think the problem isnt what and he is a bully and i dont like i dont think america in oh, thats part of america easiest thing for political leader to do is to appeal to our bigotry and hatred and xenophobia and prejudice and point to people who are unlike us and say theyre the ones who are damaging our country turning the country over the corporate pirates, bully terrible president , and bigotry hatred, xenophobia, prejudice. I mean, thats all very clear to your point. He obviously meant those things. He said them over many times. But now hes also praising the Maga Movement itself. Now that hes formally endorsed trumps. So there was a tweet over the weekend. Andrew make America Great again, This Is Rfk Junior recalls nation brimming with vitality, with a cando spirit with hope and a belief in itself. It was an america that was beginning to confront its darker shadows could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present. Yet at the same time could celebrate its successes is that consistent know aaron and it is. It is so different from what we just heard him say to right . Like he said, trump appeal to bigotry hatred xenophobia, and prejudice. And in one of the comments we found his, he said his father, rfk sr. Would be extremely disappointed in the direction that the country was headed under trump. And by the way, it wasnt just you know, Rfk Criticizing Trump was a oneway trump even called him. I think i think he called him the Dumbest Kennedy was the term that he used on truth, social. And during trumps presidency, rfk said that he thought that trump was really harming the image of America Around The World just with his presidency itself. Take a listen to a few more of those comments President Trump is out only this country and around the globe. I think its also brought and disrepute entire American Experience was runins. If you live in china today and youre looking at whats happening in late night at 8 00 why would you ever say we want to switch our system that system which can put that owner i think President Trump is purposefully and systematically encouraging tyrannical governments around the world so we did reach out to kennedys campaign. We said, how do you square those comments that he made then versus what hes saying now and we didnt hear back from them. All right. Well, Andrew Kaczynski, kfile. Thank you very much. So now lets go to well, two man, you know, more than anyone else about winning president ial campaigns. James carville and paul begala. Im sure you all were entertained by what you just heard there from rfk junior. So paul, last time, you were here with james and you predicted that trump could jump dump. Im sorry, j. D. Vance as his running mate two days ago, trump actually shared a post on social media and the post had a photo of him with kennedy and it was the words were the strongest antiestablishment ticket in American History and you are honing in on the word ticket and not just saying that he could replace vance, but two, he could replace him with kennedy paul watch your back, jd yeah, i watched that whole thing and look, Bobby Kennedy had parasitic braineating worm in his head. And the worm died of starvation okay, so i just think that we ought to give him like a lot of leeway because i think hes hes a bit eccentric. I dont think he adds much to trump honestly. I mean, if youre already of that ilk, if youre if against vaccines and all the other conspiracies that you believe in to attract you to kennedy, youre not going to go to trump if Bobby Kennedy started this race, about 20 , hes about to now so on current trajectory by election day, hell be about negative six hes a, diminishing asset, but i think trump really likes him and j. D. Vance has really not. I think hes on milk cartons now. We just dont see him. So james, a trump kennedy ticket, do you feel have any difference of opinion here from paula on what he said about it. I mean, do you think is something that could worried democrats not at all. And i i really feel sorry for the Kennedy Family because im going to remind them, you can pick your friends, you cant pick your relatives. And it probably kennedy lived in a more humane country. They would have him in a nice rubber room and three hots and the cotton take care of this guy. He has no business being out of It Street Mixing and mingling with people. But this is where we are in this country. We have a Mental Health crisis and he is at the top of it, right . Well, i will say i mean, just because you are our, bows saying this, i will say paul, he does connect with people when he talks about Chronic Illness. I mean, i think that thats something that we know when i heard anybody say that. Okay. They might dismiss the Vaccine Stuff is totally crazy conspiracy they would hone in on the Chronic Illness autoimmune diseases, and other things he talks about. I mean, that was where that audience was. Do you just think theres no one who finds that compelling at this point . Well, i just again, his glad paul im sorry. Go ahead. Oh the data shows his support just collapsing and, you know trump wants put them on the ticket heat you want for president of the island of misfit toys but Kamala Harris picked the most kind of middleclass midwestern football coach, Teacher Hunter Soldier in tim walz, who he is he didnt put this in the speech with president clinton saw tim walz on the ticket. He said, he looks like home isnt that great and he does look like home and i dont think mr. Trump in his crowd looked like home day. You mentioned you mentioned president clinton, so let me ask you something about a bad so james, some democrats have been pushing for bill clinton to go on a bus tour for Kamala Harris, and that they think that this would be valuable, which by the way, is just interesting considering the woman history with bill clinton and all of that context that were now in in the world where we could be saying that this could be great for Kamala Harris, but we are so im curious what you think about it. Is it a good idea well, i think they ever Good Campaign speech. And about think anytime you can use president clinton, its a good idea in any capacity whether or bus trip is the best use of him i have no idea. But he pointed out two most stunning statistic ever since the end of the cold war, 50 million jobs have been created under democrats from 1 million under republicans i cant get enough of that suggests i really cant. But i mean, you know, when hes older and youd have to use them judiciously, i think, but i really would love joe. He would love to go out and campaign. So paul Kamala Harris Is Dnc Speech last week, in some ways did sound like bill clintons dnc speech back in 1992 which you helped right here are just a few examples my mother had to support us. It was mostly my mother who raised us i am a product of that middle class. The middleclass is where i come from we will give you more incentives and more opportunity than ever before we will create what i call an Opportunity Economy Reach Out and join us in a great new adventure to chart a bold new future, we are charting a new way alright so do those Work Award Echoes resonate to you as someone who helped write the first, the first speech talking about here, clinton in 1992 yeah. Very much so. And look, i spent a lot of time with him at the Convention Last week and hes very impressed with Kamala Harris and how shes conducted herself, but also with that biography, you know, he talked in his speech which last week about how she worked at mcdonalds. Now that says a lot about somebody. First of its Something Like one in six americans wanted eight americans have worked at a mcdonalds, probably wanted for and fast fastfood. It shows a work ethic. It shows a heart for service because it shows that youve probably had to put up with some static from people. It shows that kind of all american dr. And i do think thats very resonant that you have this good child raised by a single mom the same in many similarities to wait, president clint was raised and that forgotten middleclass is exactly who Kamala Harris had honed in on donald trump. Got lesson. Its not his fault, but he was driven to his elite private account i dont mean to limousine every day. I think he learned a poop in a gold toilet. He is not a guy that comes from the heart of the middle class, maybe painted gold toilet final word to you, james well i think i care about yeah oh, now, we like to nitpick and second guess, everybody and everything i just dont see Anything To Nitpick A second guessed about. Im sure that, you know, to have some rough days ahead. But right now, her her Polling Averages look very improved a lot enthusiasm, democratic party, i think hello, determined and ready to go to work. And i think shes lead us in a good direction. All right. James paul, thanks as always, great to see you. Next the Breaking News, two major developments on the trump legal front, just crossing here in the past hour or two, the Justice Department trying to revive the trunk classified documents case, which have been left for dead. And trumps newest attempts at this hour to dismiss the fani willis case, which is crucial because we lose this. Its a state case. No one can pardon you from that. And this time, his efforts may actually work. And the russian billionaire founder of the Social Media Platform, telegram behind bars, just hours after he and putin were in the same foreign country tree is there a connection news night with abby phillip tomorrow at ten eastern on cnn with flonase allergies, dont have to be scary. Spring he flown a sentiments daily for non drowsy, longlasting relief and ascent free, fine mist flonase, all good. To me, harlem is but home is also on your body. Last one. I ask myself, why does it pilates exist in harlem . 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First, Special Counsel jack smith, firing back at judge aileen cannons dismissal of trumps classified documents case. So finally, making a move here and move was this smith arguing in a new filing that cannons claim that he lacked common Constitutional Authority for the case was novel and lack merit. Those technical words. And then theres also tonight another filing in the Fulton County Election Interference case against trump, where the former president s lawyers are pushing a new argument to get Da Fani Willis off the case this one could actually work. So lets go straight to ryan goodman, our outfront legal expert. Lets start with the federal case. Jack smiths new filing, which youve had a chance to read through. The case has gotten dismissed and just sort of waiting. When is he going to respond . What does anna respond . So he finally came out today, all the details are in there what do you take away from it very strong response. I imagined that the 11th Circuit Panel will, in fact overturn judge cannon and reinstate him. Its very strong in so many ways wanted basically says theres a Unanimous Supreme Court opinion, United States phoenix, and in which they supreme courts said the Attorney General kind of appoint special prosecutors. Second, they say this is happened for over a century and that not only is that, but the regulations themselves, the Attorney General regulation specifically say that an Attorney General should in fact appoint somebody from outside the department, and thats the constitutional question that judge cannon raise. That yes. The Attorney General could do it from an existing Justice Department play, but not somebody outside. And then the last point they also make is it is nonsensical to have her opinion because her opinion would mean it would be perfectly fine to have appointed jack smith in one minute and then the second minute and made him Special Counsel and then everything would be hunkydory that cant be what the constitution requires. So you think that obviously very well could overrule her decision and this should move forward. Now, this federal case, so lets just say that happens and trump loses. Biden could pipe pardon him. I dont know that he well, but theoretically, somebody could. But thats not the case in the georgia case because its a state case. Right . And that case could carry significant prison time if it goes ahead. So i just himself setting the stakes on why Georgia Matters so much trumps lawyers have argued that willis fani willis should be removed because of ryan repeated public display of racial animus towards trump and his codefendants. What do you think of that . I think the trump side actually has a pretty strong argument here. And in fact, it was kind of a close call by the Trial Court Judge who everybody mostly things thats very reasonable, judge. And theyre from the same allegations in which fani willis made a Public Statement at a church about the claims against her. The judge said, quote, the effect of this speech was to cast racial aspersions at an indicted defendants decision to file this Pretrial Motion the court cannot find that this speech cross the line to the point where the defendants have been denied the opportunity for fundamentally fair trial or that requires the District Attorneys disqualification. But it was legally improper. End quote, so he could easily imagine a Court Of Appeal says, for us, it did cross the line. We do not want a District Attorney standing up and publicly talking about the defendants claiming that theyre racist for their motions in court thats improper. And so i do think that this is a good argument that should be making and that theres a good chance that theyll one right. Which is obviously again, very significant in the context of if he loses. This was the one that there could be no part in four and so it just to put that context on it ryan goodman. Great to see you next. The ceo of a major social Media Company who has a history with putin is tonight shockingly and bizarrely under arrest the polls for Have I Got News For You or pretty yeah. What are the kinds we could run on the news before then it would never happen if i got news for you, the mere saturday, September 14th At Night On Cnn and streaming next day on max, were your supplements developed by amateurs or pros, doctors preferred supplements or doctor developed using clinically validated ingredients and triple tested for purity and potency, dont trust your health to the amateurs. Choose doctors preferred over 13 million americans were affected. 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And this is cnn closed captioning brought to you by rula law, Iconic Brands up to 70 off retail had rula law. Com at rubella you never faithful these the deals top before their shot tonight a Billionaire Entrepreneur who social media app telegram has 900 million users worldwide is now behind bars. Pavel durov, nicknamed russias Mark Zuckerberg, was arrested in france as part of a probe and a criminal activity on telegram. And there are now questions about whether durov, who claims to have had at least 100 biological children and as seen by some as a kremlin stooge met with Vladimir Putin just days before he headed to france and was arrested and this comes at a Pivotal Point in the war for putin, whos on the defensive and his own country and now trying to retaliate in a major way. Fred pleitgen is outfront so it will slow a case called for these ukrainian soldiers filming a Missile Impacting in a reservoir close by part of the massive Russian Rocket and drone blitz destroying Ukrainian Energy infrastructure and leaving residents scrambling for safety some inside the kyiv subway kyiv says, russia launched more than 120 missiles and more than 100 drones while many were intercepted, others struck areas across ukraine. Would you should be wooden sticks to his style. Ukraines president says, hes a sick creature thats been obvious for a long time, but its also clear that he can only do what the world allows him to do. Weakness, lack of decisions, fuel well, terror, read the strikes, possible, retaliation for ukraines incursion into the kursk region in russia in Vladimir Putins army still appears unable to stop ukrainian troops advancing there kyiv saying their forces are making gains even three weeks into the operation and another possible blow for the russian leader after putin visited azerbaijan last week, the founder of the Telegram Messaging app, pavel durov, was arrested in france, revealing door off was in other by john at the same time as putin the kremlin quick to claim putin didnt meet with durovs in baku can use name we dont know yet what exactly durov is accused of. We havent heard any official statements on this matter yet. Jim cooks and before we say anything, we need to wait for the situation. The become clearer. Thats what exactly are they trying to Incriminate Durov with . French Media Reports . Durovs Arrest Warrant is related to telegrams alleged failure to moderate content reportedly facilitating money laundering, drug trafficking, and the spread of pedophilic material on the platform. Telegram says sure off has nothing to hide there have been questions about pawel durovs possible relations with the Kremlin Telegram was once banned in russia, but that ban was later lifted. On moscow streets. Support for the social media moguls, some call the russian Mark Zuckerberg we all know that theres its connected to the fact that the man sticks to his principles. This man says, and his main principle is Freedom Of Speech and eric quite a lot of people in russia actually pretty up in arms about pablo durovs arrest in france, including some pretty high level russian diplomats. However, french president Emmanuel Macron came out today and denied any notion that this could be politically motivated. He said that durov was arrested in france as part of a french judicial investigation. Erin. Thanks so much, fred, an outfront now, on a stage of stoke name russia correspondent for the financial times. She has been covering this story closely and on a stage, i mean, this story is filled with intrigue, including why durov was detained, and whether he had just seen putin before this actually happened. What do you know about this very important figure in russia and about his relationship with Vladimir Putin thanks, erin. So as you said, there is very important in russia because first he founded russias most popular social network, fantastic. And then he found telegram, which main russians, i wouldnt say most, but Many Russians to use those who use it includes Russian Military who connects mostly through telegram. And normal russians of course, this is not just brandon, u. S. This is huge news for the whole country. But as you said, the whole story is just azlin. Another loop for the outsiders, for the foreigners. But for those whove been covering it closely as well. So there are many questions. So one of the first question says, you said is whether what happened in azerbaijan, because as we know, was traveling from azerbaijan to france and he coincided in azerbaijan with Vladimir Putin. So they were there at the same time. And there were rumors that the two of them met. None of the journalists confirm that, and there are russian journalists who for the subject for much longer time than it, they still have no intel, so we have just guesses. But i guess thats the whole figure of pavel durov, who dont know much about him. We tried to learn much, but we dont know there are then these questions from azerbaijani goes to france he, theres an arrest for his a warrant for arrested for him in france. He knows that he could have stopped in a lot of other places. And yet he chose to stop and france, why do you think he did that . Thats an amazing question. I wish i knew. I can only guess so i mean, there are so many hypothesis and i want to highlight, i dont know for sure. I dont think anyone except for five old dog knows for sure. I think either it was a way of avoiding something more than jurors or hes trying to prove some point or his he says something in it. I dont know, but its really hard to believe that he was just took by surprise theres a friend security researcher, robert partys. Hes been doing a lot of research on this. He said durov has been seen in the same places including azerbaijan with a 24yearold who lives in dubai. What do you know about her honesty . Again, just just like about door for dont know much about her. So i think her name just a beard in the russian News Headlines only in the connection with the arrest. So shes young. She has account on to egypt support for him where people stream how they playing video games, among other things. And shes rather popular there. She invest in cryptocurrency and to use cryptocurrency and she advocates for cryptocurrency. But this is basically aid also some russian jordan is serving Propaganda Journalist tried to reach out to her family and they said that she left russia just two years ago and they maintain no connection with heart is russia and russian national. But thats about it. Its unbelievable how little we know about something that they could have such amazingly important strategic
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