politics, family ties. >> president biden embraces son, both littered, literally and figuratively at first three felony convictions we'll look at the fallout for the first family and the biden campaign. plus david axelrod is here to talk about whether his party needs to do more to reach out to discipline republicans, especially so many progressives turning away from biden over the war in gaza and the rent is too high the cost of housing is still sorry. >> that's a big reason why so many americans feel badly about the economy, despite new state that overall inflation is slowing down i'm on a rod when for dana bash, let's go behind the headlines inside politics first up, we're tracking the fallout of a hunter biden guilty verdict. >> present some biden is on his way to the g7 summit in italy this morning, after a last-minute trip to delaware last night to huddle with this family. the president's son was found guilty on all three federal gun charges. he is facing cnn's kevin lip dag is tracking it all from the white house. so kevin, the white house press or create just address the issue of a possible commutation for hunter biden for the first time? hi, what did she say? >> well, she didn't rule it out. she also didn't rule it in. and what creon chomp pure told reporters on air force one was that she hadn't spoken to this to the president about this idea of commuting hunter biden sentence. she did point out that sentencing hadn't happened yet, and she pointed back to the president's very definitive they've comment from last week when he said that he had ruled out a presidential pardon for his son. so this is still a question that i think is hanging over this verdict a day after it happened, you are seeing the biden family starting to pick themselves up from this very dark moment and return back to work. we just learned in the last hour that the first lady, jill biden, who had been attending this trial for the last week or so. we'll resume her campaign travel beginning tomorrow to a number of battleground states. but i think if you want to see what's in the president's head, if you want to get a sense of where his mind at the best place to live look at those images from yesterday in wilmington, delaware as the president was stepping off, a marine one greeting his son hunter for the first time since that verdict was rendered with a smile, with a hug. this is really the strategy that the president has employed for so long. when it comes to his son's legal issues is to draw him close, not push him away really kind of banished the sense of shame or stigma. and that does, i think speak to some of the anguish that the president has been feeling behind the scenes for his son's well-being, for his whole family's well-being. another president is on his way now to the g7 in italy. he is joined on air force one by some of his granddaughters. those would be hunter biden's daughters. so certainly that family dynamic very much at close hand, even as the president continues his day-to-day job as president, this is quite a stacked summit. there are a lot for these leaders to address principally among them, the war in ukraine. but of course, the looming potential return of president trump to the g7, if you were to win in november, i think is at the back of everyone's mind as they gather their on the italian coast, manu, all right, a lot to dissect kevin lip deck at the white house. thanks for that. my panels with me now let's cnn's priscilla alvarez, lisa lera, the new york times, and she's also the co-author, the new book, the fall of roe, the rise of a new america, and cnn's alayna train. >> good to see you guys. you just came back from wilmington this manning for the show. thanks for you. jazz for us. well, thank you for that. >> it was interesting. the calculator haitian of the president to be seen with the sun last night giving them a hug in the aftermath of this felony conviction, he didn't have to do that. they could have done this in private, decided to do it in public. what is behind that? why that was thinking no clear indication that he's going to keep his son close. a few things sources tell us that the possibility of the president going to wilmington was floated late monday night. it became it was finalized after the verdict was reached. not only did the president rush back to wilmington, the cameras were there. they caught the moment that hunter biden and his father embraced and had a moment before rushing off to the private residence where they huddled over the course of the evening. so clearly, the president, he wanted to be there for a son that has been what he has said over the course of this trial. in fact, in his statement yesterday if you read it closely, it's really framed through the lens of a father, not a president. he talks about the resiliency of the sun going through this addiction. and within the white house, within the campaign, this has been a sensitive and adult issue. of course but when we also talked two sources within the campaign for them, it's business as usual. they think that voters have already baked in their minds what they think about the hunter biden trial. it's not to their mind's going to sway any voters. therefore, they're going to continue on the path that they're on. of course, there are still more trials and leave go proceeding to come but certainly for now, it is. this is, this is at the end of the de, a father who had to come to a sunset. yeah. but, you know, as you mentioned, where the middle of the political season, there's a decision in a calculation behind every thing. it was a decision to be seen. but as priscilla notes, they don't believe there'll be any political backlash on the president, least not yet yeah, look, this this has been a grueling and deeply emotional thing for the biden family. >> this is of course, a family that's been marked by tragedy. that's quite close. it you saw that on full display in this trial. i mean, there were tears. it was really emotional testimony but look, the name of the show's inside politics the politics of this. >> they also think while it may not move voters, they, i have talked to several sources inside the campaign and sayyed the democratic party, who think it is good politics or better politics for the president to be seen as a supportive father, to be their supporting his son, who has dealt with but these issues of addiction, like so many americans have dealt with issues of addiction and that he will get credit in some voters minds for showing up in that way. so i think it is both personal but also, of course, as you point out, political, it's really interesting that trump, he adds yeah, been talking about where's onto a wears on. remember they that was the whole campaign mantra in 20, 2,000 bindings in the center of the investigations on capitol hill. here he is convicted of felonies and don't tropos or nothing. >> that's why we only saw statement from the campaign and it didn't even really mention the hunter biden's conviction and it was from a spokesperson, wasn't from how it was from a spokesperson and it said that it's a distraction from the real crimes of the biden family. luck. >> it is a difficult situation for donald trump himself because as we know and he discussed this on hanadi earlier this week, he comes from a family that has struggled with addiction. donald trump has been very public about that. and so in some ways, i think the former president is a bit sympathetic toward hunter biden, however, that doesn't mean he's going to stop attacking hunter biden overall for what the republican party has really made a target to show that the biden family is corrupt now, i will also say the other side of that is it does take a little bit of the wind out of his campaign sales when it comes about talking about his own conviction because the key thing that he has been saying over and over again that is playing very well with voters as well. is that this is a two tier justice system, that they're only prosecuting donald trump, having the president's son be convicted does hurt that argument. of course, that's not going to change. well, look, it's messed and in 2020 donald trump did go after president biden and hunter's issues at the time, and that moment during that debate, we're on the cusp of another debate. it resonated because it ended up being the president, president biden. now, ecology and the difficulties of struggling with a sign with addiction and the campaign looks at that as a very strong moment that he could relate to american in perhaps one of the reasons why that trump has not said whole lot is that republicans have been all over the map in the reaction i spent a lot of time talking to love republicans, the speaker, the house, that it was an appropriate we had thing for him to be convicted. others said it was not appropriate, and some dabbled in the idea of some conspiracy mongering i don't think anybody should be prosecuted for that infraction. >> there millions of felons in this country just waiting to be arrested because there are millions of marijuana users. >> and what they got hunter biden non was lying on a gun form. that would be like getting jobs free, dahmer for littering. it just seems like a prosecution as of a near for the real devious conduct okay. >> so for the real deviates kind of course, there's nothing had been proven that joe biden has done anything cropped with, has been part of the republican impeachment investigation that has not led to any sort of effort to impeach him yet because they don't have the votes statement proven what they've been looking out for. this is what steven miller's do you senior adviser to trump wrote on x yesterday. he said doj is running on election interference for joe biden. he says he goes on to say why? because all the evidence would lead back to joe doj is joe's election protection rag get there all over the place. >> yeah. look, i think sometimes with campaigns it matters what they say, but it also matters what they don't say. and the trump campaigns sort of broad silence except for the one statement speaks volumes here and the reality is this is a complicated political issue for them me cause some thomas asieh. you shouldn't even prosecutor they believe in the second amendment and gun issues, and obviously there are a lot of strong supporters of gun rights that vote republican. so that's complicated the addiction issues are complicated. there's a lot of americans dealing with addiction. >> and i also think they didn't get the headline they wanted, which was is it would have been better for them in some ways to have a hung jury because they could have said it's an unfair system. >> instead they gotta headline where hunter was convicted, hunter biden, and also that doesn't link anything that went on the trial to the president so while i think miller statements will help rally the republican base in the mega-base who are with trump. anyhow, it's not that kind of thing is not going to break through to voters who the small sliver of voters who may be undecided or people who were on the fence about how it's not going to get them the mass support that they could have ran width, gotten those other two scenarios. >> in some are still saying to tear justin system and some saying that doesn't undercut the idea of a so-called your justice. and this is what jason rho khuza'a republican strategist for the chair of the michigan gop, set to political yesterday, it throws a bit of sand in the gears of people, suggesting the biden depart from a justice has been engineering, engineered to go after trump won feature of the modern republican party is ignoring facts that don't support the argument in sometimes embracing the conspiracy theories that do i think i think that's pretty fair. i think that's why this case is very difficult for them to handle you laid it out perfectly their biggest i mean, i will say from being on the ground specifically, i talked to so many voters at these trump rallies, some of them who say one of their driving issues for wanting to vote for the former president is because of all the charges he is facing. so this really does under undercut their key argument. i think that's why you're seeing the silence while you're not hearing much on this because we know donald trump is going to continue to run on being persecuted political opponent. he's continuing to fund raise insane amounts of money after that guilty verdict in manhattan a week or so ago. and so that is so quarter their campaign and they do not want to draw attention to the fact that the president's own son was also found guilty. boats on the biden administration, both sides seem to be willing to move on. >> rates, leave the voters. the voters thing. >> all right, coming up in contempt. >> house republicans are poised to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress. are live from capitol hill next five good things. >> 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last vote series, marjorie taylor greene said that if republicans vote against moving forward with this contempt resolution, that they're going to have explain themselves to gop voters. i also talked to anthony d'esposito who is a moderate republican from a swing district who told me that he does plan to supported. so that gives you some indication that even people who have tough free elections coming up in november, they're leaning to vote and support this bill mono obviously will be watching at 3:30 republicans arguing they have to move forward with this because they want the audio tapes released from special counsel robert hur's interview with president trump mono yeah, america calls as he would not do that because it would jeopardize how they do future investigations when they bring people behind closed doors, lauren fox. thank you for that report and last names, primaries proved donald trump's still has a strong grip on the republican party. candidates endorsed in multiple states, walked away with victory. that includes south carolina congresswoman nancy mace she overcame a primary challenge backed by former house speaker kevin mccarthy, who of course she voted to depose some other biggs wins last night, sam brown secure the gop nomination, and then nevada senate race after trump sided with gop leaders. this is to support the army veteran in that marquis race. and in a ruby red district in ohio, republican michael rulli, one a house special election, but he did far worse than trump did in that same district four years ago. >> democratic strategists simon rosenberg tells politico, quote, when the choice of maga and other alternatives are presented to voters maga underperforms polling. >> so let's dig into that. >> is that actually accurate? >> so this is what happened here last night in this ohio special election it's a red district of very red desert. trump wanted by almost 30 points in 2020 last night, the republican candidate just ten points. so what does it, what does it tell us? one thing that it could tell us is trump does better with voters vote infrequently, then voters who vote frequently. this is what registered color voters versus people who did not vote in 2020, donald trump in battleground states up six points among all registered voters, up 17 points among people who did not vote in 2020, meaning they are not very frequently. so at least i shouldn't. democrats be as hardened as maybe simon rosenberg says they should be. >> well, simon rosenberg has the democrats big o meister that says, look we all, all of us who follow politics and read these tea leaves. we love special elections. we think they give us unlock clues. the predictive clues of the universe they're not a bad barometer. i think they can tell us some things about the environment. we have seen that democrats have over-performed in elections since president biden won in 2020. so there is a bit of a trend line there. but the reality is, people are going to be voting. next fall, early voting, of course, we'll start in september, not now. you know, there's some lessons democrats can take from here. i think we have seen with simon is talking about there in that quote that they have rejected some of the anti-democratic tendencies, certainly the anti-abortion plank of the republican party, whether that is still the dominant issue, come next fall with economic concerns, immigration concerns foreign, a very, unstable foreign policy environment. we just don't know that we, that is unknowable right now. >> but democratic strategists that i've been talking to this morning also point out that there was low voter turnout, right? so it has also made it very difficult to kind of gauge what the enthusiasm is and whether they can make any real conclusions from the primaries. but to your point about abortion, nevada is really interesting with jacky rosen there. she is. she is sort of put herself in a more moderate position session she is also trying to use abortion and casting it as the reproductive freedoms like the biden campaign has done. and they do hope that that could help them out in nevada, which is also an important state for them nonetheless, absolutely. >> that was interesting about it. >> how trump is handling all this in that nevada race. he aligned himself with republican leaders. ultimately, he gave a late endorsement to sandbar, who's actually already on the path to winning that republican nomination there. but that was who the senate gop leadership had been behind. trump has been aligned with a senate gop leadership in this cycle. unlike last cycle, when they sparred over some candidates and ultimately didn't take the majority. but last night, just look it out. trump has dominant his candidates have dominated in the primaries. nancy mace, who he got behind she was one of the aid to voted to oust kevin mccarthy. mccarthy wander out. he also back william timmons, who is a, this is the interesting raise two because right-wing members of the house freedom caucus tried to oust timid. they said it was not conservative enough, but trump got behind timmons, any one? on and also trump when against doug burgum, they're not dakota governor, maybe his vp and the north dakota governor's race gop primary backing kelly armstrong instead of burgum is big. and that race, what does that tell you the way lana i'm in trump's endorsement continues to be incredibly powerful and it's something we know that clearly all of these candidates and other candidates and other races we've seen across the spectrum continue to clobber for that support because they know it makes a difference, but i just want to talk a little bit more about nevada because i found that race so fascinating because donald trump i've had endorsed in every single senate battleground state, except for nevada until sunday. >> and i think what that shows is that shore sam brown, one, but they already knew he was on a path way to winning before he offered his endorsement. and that was very interesting race because the gop was really split and particularly people in trump's orbit were very split about what to do there. there was a lot of fierce conservatives who wanted jeff gunter to be the person that trump's former ambassador, exactly. a former ambassador to iceland and he got behind sam brown, a big part of that. i'm told as one, of course, steve daines and the establishment republican party was going after and supporting chairman sam kevin? yes and also, they saw the writing on the wall that he was very much expected to win, and that's a huge part of all of these endorsements when it comes down to donald trump, a key thing that they want is that to make sure that if he's going to get behind a candidate, that they can win that did not happen in 2022. it was very embarrassing for donald trump. that's why you're seeing such so many fewer endorsements. this cycle, they argue it's because he's preoccupied with his own election, but there's still very much that bitterness from going and endorsing a lot of candidates that ultimately hurt the party overall during the midterm. >> absolutely. and it was also interesting in north dakota this was a ballot measure that was improved last night, pretty unique. >> whether congressional age limit balance vendors. >> so this will approved candidates can't turn anyone by the end of the term and that applies to us senate and us house. now, whether this is constitutional, that is a whole different question. i'm sure it will be challenged, but for to aging candidates, it shows you that there's one state i'm i'm sort as is probably a pretty popular ballot measure across 50 states. >> is there any doubt that voters are thinking about age that's election. i mean, this has been front and center and the biden campaign just when it's launched, seniors for biden so this is top of mind obviously something they're gonna, they're gonna have to grapple with in these states in november, it's funny because when you pull voters on this issue, how old is too old? they can't quite agree on what the limit should be. so to have about measure that sets it for you, it's clear like that we'll get broad support. what they can agree on. i think we all know too, is that so many americans are unhappy with the two candidates running for president. and a huge reason for that is they think both are too old. donald trump's birthday is on friday. yeah, if he were to win election in november, he would be older than president biden was when he i started this term. and so it's something consistently and i hear this on the ground the time to regardless of party, they don't like that. the two options they have are two very old men. >> no question about that. all right. next is president biden doing enough to win over anti-trump republicans who supported candidates like chris christie and nikki haley will go one-on-one with democratic strategist david axelrod after the break the most anticipated moment of this election 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party don't go spout in your mouth often. same. you're a conservative. your spit in the face of the leader of our party, donald trump. i'm grow up a little bit ouch. joining me now is seed and senior political commentator david axelrod is a former senior adviser to president obama, and perhaps most importantly fellow chicago bears and sally grown hey there you go well, you've been talking to republicans like chris christie about how they are dealing with this race. just our viewers listen to about chris, what chris christie has been saying. >> there are no character guardrails anymore there are no read leinz that okay. you cross over this. i cannot be with you it to me that red line for character was election night 2020. when you start to screw with the democratic transfer of power from the voters. >> that's it. i'm done yet, still not endorsing biden. >> so how does how does biden get these republicans on board? >> yeah, we should point out and chris christie is a friend of mine i can say that because he's retired now, so i don't but but he is retired because the voters, republican voters rejected the argument. so trump has a pretty strong hold on that part of there are some republicans holding out but yes, biden has to get them to cross the bridge here. they're willing to leave trump and say they're not going to vote for trump. biden has to get them part of that as a mechanical process. manu and that's he has to ask he has to kai i don't believe i just had a conversation with chris chris wright, call them up. right. >> and i've heard from many other republicans who were very disaffected with trump, who've, who've never spoken with biden so well, why is he not just pick up? i don't know. i really don't know some people said, well, there's there was a concern that if he calls the call would get out and if they didn't endorse that would be reject i mean, that's crazy i mean, these are free agents out there and he should try and graeme, because i think the more republicans who stepped forward and say, you know what, i'm voting for, biden the more creates a permission structure for republican voters who are worried get about trump's moral, ethical, and legal failing. so there isn't opportunity for that. i mean, just look at how the nikki haley voters voted after she dropped out of the primary and a number of states, including some battleground states and 18% in arizona and pennsylvania, 16% so in these were closed primaries, heart sank. so i mean, are those actually ganim voters in what specifically do they need to do? what cases that make to those voters specifically? >> well, look, i think the case that christie's making about constitution, the constitution and rules and laws, norms and institutions will appeal to some. there are others who have wholly different view of national security and certainly nikki haley does from from trump and biden is the one who's standing up to putin and holding firm there. and that should be two the old reagan republicans that could be encouragement as well. but i think there are arguments to be made, but you have to make them i've heard democrats say that trump is x essential threat to american democracy has are you satisfied with that message? >> stage? >> or should they be doing ones that listen? i think that i share the concern about a guy who has absolutely no regard for rules or laws or norms or institutions. and we've seen what the impact of that is. and i think we owed trump the respect of believing what he's saying hey, when he says he's going to be about the business of caralyn, the justice department, and going after his enemies. and so i think that's what he wants to do and that's what he'll try to do. >> biden has really been doing enough to make that case. >> well, here's my my concern. >> there are a lot of people who recognize all of these things and trump's and trump's all of his failings. >> but i keep saying if you are talking about democracy over the dinner table, it's probably because you don't have to worry about the food, because the food on your table, i think biden has to create tangible contrast with trump on stuff that touches people's lives democracy as important as it is, can be an abstract notion. if you have day-to-day concerns and i think biden has a case to make on those day-to-day concerns on what he would do and what trump would do. just like, you know. >> so let's talk a little about the debate which is coming up here on cnn in just a matter of a couple of weeks, june 27 biden is preparation for those in how much eating should hammer home. >> the fact that he's running against a convicted felon or is that becoming a little bit more complicated given the fact that the sun was just, i go back to my last answer. i think by i think that that will undoubtedly come up. there'll be points of reference here, but there are people out there who are saying i know all that. but my groceries or too costly, my, you know, my rent is getting too high. i can't get insurance and so on. biden needs to really lay out the fact that he is fighting for them. trump is fighting for himself and they're beginning to strike that theme. but i think that's something think that's as important to drive as these democracy messages in this debate. >> and how can you deal with inevitably hunter biden is going to come up how is chelsea deal with that? >> well, look, i think that there's i think there's solicitude for him as a father. i don't think the hunter biden thing is currently hurting him with voters i think what may be interesting betas, i could absolutely see trump, who doesn't want to ruffle the feathers of the gun lobby. same a biden. i can't believe you're going to let your kid go to prison on that. >> that would be an interesting turn, but we'll see we didn't remember the last time they had that debate in 2020. who was a better moment from joe biden about the how hundred yeah. >> but is it comes in at a left-handed kind of way that 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one of them was severely restricted abortion medication like mifepristone, even where abortions remain legal, the other is about where's, where, about whether state aboard mission bands actually override federal rules for treating patients in a medical emergency. lisa lehrer is back with us along with elizabeth diaz. they are the authors of the new book, the fall of roe, the rise of a new america. and i have it right here as well. it's a great read. i encourage you to take a look at these. what thank you. so when us let's just dig in a little bit more about the significance of these cases and what you guys write about in this book. you say, whatever the court's decision and whoever won the two halves 22024 presidential election, it was clear that the case would not mark the end of the post row religious rights, legal and political efforts to roll back america's cultural transformation, of course, referring to dobbs, if it's efforts with roche showed america anything, it was that its success never dependent on just one argument. this is part of the people may think that dobbs was the end of it is certainly not the end. >> now, thousands the beginning. and i think it's a misunderstanding maybe that some people have or something that many americans are learning more about right now, is that this is a long game. this is a moment when if you do not understand the history of how america got two dobbs, there's going to be very, very difficult to understand the stakes going forward abortion has always been a very complicated issue for sort of normal folks, even those of us who follow it closely to understand what's going on but when you strip away, just are able to look at the big picture of how did the anti-abortion movement become so successful? what were their legal strategies? how did they get to this point? you can start to see the groundwork for cases like we're waiting for the supreme court even now. >> and of course, as we look at public opinion about the decision to overturn roe v. wade is pretty clear where voters come down 34%, just 34% approve of that nationally competitive 65% disapproval as really been consistent along the line. and one of the things that you guys get into in this book is donald trump, how he has handled this issue, and how voters viewed him in 2016, you guys write many voters assume that trump's opposition to abortion rights was just part of the political game to win the white house. the new president was a celebrity, and americans believed if they knew his history, a manhattan businessmen who didn't know how to pronounce the books of the new testament seemed unlikely to be the guy who eradicated abortion rights. so much has changed so much has changed, but yet so much has not changed. >> and i think you see former president trump doing the same pivot now in a different way, of course he tries to take credit for appointing three justices who returned row, which of course he did, but he's also trying to moderate his stance in some ways on abortion. he's trying to have it all the ways which is really as we show in our book, what he's done throughout his career. he of course started as a supporter of abortion rights then became anti-abortion and then became really a champion of the anti-abortion movement i think anti-abortion activists, a lot of them are with him because they have now been with him for eight years. the question is whether this is convincing to swing voters who now are very attuned to this issue and just some viewers know how trump has dealt with this just recently, he talked to an anti-abortion group, but did not use award abortion now is the time for us to all pull together and to stand up for our values and for our freedoms. >> and you just can't vote democrat. they're against religion. we have to defend religious liberty, free speech. and he said life and the heritage and tradition that built america into the greatest nation in the history of the world he wants credit from the right, but not to be punished for appointing the justices overturned roe. what was interesting when he's speaking to these anti-abortion, really like true believers of the movement. and i'm just this week and in these comments, he's at an event at the southern baptist convention and many he of the people who are listening to him in that room are actually on the most extreme edge of what the anti-abortion movement wants to do. they want the complete abolition of abortion most, many cases for them, no exceptions even for cases of rape, incest in some cases, life of the mother. so it's a very odd game of trying to say one thing, but also the very hardcore which was able to use him really to advance their cause so with him is your reporting this book, what was your big takeaway? what did you find out real quickly what a surprise, but surprised you going, i think one thing that surprised us was how long the anti-abortion movement had worked and how detailed their plans were that they just pushed in every direction. they took advantage of every opportunity. and this was a generations long fight while they were thinking in generations supports of abortion rights were thinking in election cycles. and it ended up being asymmetrical warfare. chess verse checkers really, really fascinating. thanks for coming and thanks for sharing your reporting and thank you for joining inside the politics cnn news central starts after the break to presidents, the former under our leadership the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten. >> he no longer the current tomography is still a sacred car. i there's no country in the world better position for me, the world and who will be the next, the most anticipated moment of this election, the weight only cnn can bring it to you moderated by jake tapper, indented bash to cnn presidential debates thursday, june 27 and ninth live on cnn and streaming on that. >> when a car breaks down a race car driver would call a pit crew you should call endurance and 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