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Thank you so much for joining me this saturday on for Greek A Whitfield right now, President Biden is on route to atlanta right now. Now, as he has a whole weekend, according black voters, tomorrow he will give a Commencement Address at Morehouse College. His visit comes as the campus has seen, propalestinian protests in recent weeks. Makes much like across the country at several university in College Campuses the president of Morehouse College tells cnn that he will not tolerate disruptions during tomorrows event. We will also not ask police to take individuals out of commencement in zip ties if faced with the choice, i will cease the ceremonies on the spot. If we were to reach that position but this will not be a place where there will be an a national photoop of individuals being taken out of the morehouse campus in zip ties all right. Despite that warning coming from morehouse, president , students who spoke to cnn say they plan to show their outrage over the biden administrations handling of the war in gaza. I exist as more than a prop for a photoop. You completely dismissed us by calling us violent, by calling us antisemitic and no, in no way shape or form are any of us antisemitic dont want him to hit, come here and campaign. I know hes going to talk some some of his accomplishments. I know hes going to talk talk about some things hes going to do for black people. Im expecting to hear that, but also want to hear authentic speech about why hes here for us cnns Arlette Saenz is here with me and atlantic great to see you all right. So on the issue of the war in gaza, some morehouse students, as we heard right there, have express their objection to the president and his arrival how has he shaped or reshaped his Commencement Address, knowing that he has an audience of 70 students and perhaps even some of their parents or grandparents who say you know, were not completely happy with your agenda or the position on the war on gaza. Will president i didnt and his advisors are well aware of the frustration among some students and faculty about his handling of the conflict in gaza. And weve also seen a lot of that play out on various College Campuses over the course of the past few weeks. But bidens advisers have really been drilling in on this speech to try to take into account some of the concerns of people. One of the president s most senior advisers, the director of the office of public engagement, Steve Benjamin was here in atlanta just about a week ago and he met with a small group of students and faculty to hear their concerns. One source told me that about half of that meeting focused on the issue of gaza, while they also got to talk about other things they were concerned about including some concerns that some students are worried this will overshadow. Theyre Graduation Day a moment that supposed to celebrate the graduate and graduation of the seniors, but the white house has also been consulting not just students and faculty, but also so alumni of more house college. This is a wellknown all mail historically black college with significant number of important alumni that includes former dhs secretary jay johnson, cedric richmond, the president also personally spoke with dr. Tony allen. He is the president of delaware state university. Another hbc see you, close friend of biden, who really counseled him to acknowledge the students bravery, but also talk about the impact of peaceful protest. Alan a. Told us in an interview that he believes that there has been these powerful moments of Student Protests over the course of the past few years, pointing to the aftermath of George Floyds murder. And that theres something that he expects the president really to tackle head on. So what advisers have also been clear as theyve been planning this speech and speaking to them into this weekend, is that he is here to be a Commencement Speaker. Speaker, not a Foreign Policy voice. And so well see how exactly he strikes that balance. The president is arriving in atlanta rather early. The Commencement Address is tomorrow. Were looking at pictures of him you know, boarding Air Force One out of the washington, dc area on his way here because hes got at least two other right. Private fundraising and Campaign Stops in atlanta and then throughout the weekend after he leaves more house, hes gonna be heading to detroit for an nwa cp, a dinner where hell be speaking there. So hes making a significant push not just to the black community, but apparently also too young voters what is his message that he is trying to convey this weekend by making all of these stops and really full swing with his campaign. Yeah, were really seeing the president focused in on these three days of a very fresh push to try to appeal to black voters. That is something that will be on hand tomorrow when he speaks at morehouse and what you hear from the president is hes trying to help some of the accomplishments that theyve been able to achieve when it comes to lowering insulin Infrastructure Investments and also students trying to count cancel Student Loan Debt as hes trying to show that they are doing work to help the black community, but it does come at a point when black voters made up a core part bidens coalition back in 2020. But recent polling has shown a narrowing of that Support Heading into november. If you take a look at an recent poll from the New York Times that took a a little look at battleground states. Biden is that 63 with black voters, while trump is at 23 , thats in a headtohead matchup between the two. It gets much narrower if you consider thirdparty candidates of the Biden Campaign acknowledges that they have real work to do to try to stress one, what they would do for the community, but also trying to drive that contrast with former President Trump. All right. Arlette saenz. Great to see. You will have you back. Of course. Air force one almost wheels up on his way to atlanta and well talk more about his visit thanks so much. All right. Former President Trump is spending his weekend in dallas where hes speaking at the annual nra convention, the Gun Rights Organization has seen a major shakeup in recent months following a series of scandals. Cnns Steve Contorno is in dallas for todays speech. Steve, good to see you. How influential is the nra expected to be in this president ial race fred eight years ago when the nra endorsed donald trump for president , few would have questioned the organizations influence in American Politics now, that is come under threat by a series of scandals, financial mismanagement, leadership shakeups that have not only questioned its relevance, but how much its has two support donald trump in this upcoming election. This is an organization that spent upwards of 30 years ago helping donald trump defeat Hillary Clinton in 2016. It is unclear what kind of financial commitments they can make to donald trump. This go around now, donald trump for his part, he is standing by the embattled organization russian recently his campaign hosted a whole bunch of conservative organizations to talk about their strategy for the summer and fall, the nra and people are part of the array. Were part of those talks. Trump has also said that he will be a Second Amendment president if elected again, he said he would unravel all the steps that President Biden has done to address gun violence in this country. He often reminds Second Amendment voters that he quote, did nothing to succumb to pressure from Gun Safety Groups after all, the mass tragedies that he oversaw in his watch. Now, whats interesting is this is a contrast that the Biden Campaign is, is very eager to make and theres little disagreement between the biden side and the trump sayyed over where these two candidates stand on guns President Biden, biden wants an Assault Weapons ban, getting weapons like ar 15s out of the hands of americans donald trump has said that he rejects those kind of proposals. So guns are going to be a major points of contention in this election. And we are going to see later today how donald trump rallies those who are most interested in this topic for the 2024 election fraud. All right, Steve Contorno in dallas. Thanks so much. All right. Were also following new developments in the arrest of the mens world number one golfer, Scottie Scheffler. Cnn has learned that there is no Police Bodycam footage of the incident that led to his stunning friday arrest. Scheffler says he was rattled by his arrest that he calls a big misunderstanding with police. It unfolded just before dawn yesterday outside the Valhalla Golf Club in louisville, kentucky, scheffler is accused of injuring an officer who tried to stop him from driving through the scene of a fatal Traffic Accident outside the club. Scheffler was booked in jail and is now facing four charges, including Felony Assault on a Police Officer. Weve got Team Coverage from louisville Patrick Snail is covering the tournament for us. But lets begin with gloria pazmino, whos looking at the investigation of all of this and you just spoke with the mayor of louisville about this . Incident and what are you learning yeah. Friday, we just caught up with a mayor greenberg in the last hour who told us that so far they have not found any Body Camera Footage showing the big gaining of the interaction between scheffler and the arresting officer. We know that there is video from the area and from other officers who who had body cameras on. But there is no video that the police has been able to find a so far showing that beginning interaction, which is really going to be the key to answer some of the questions weve had here, because were seeing a bit of two different sides to the story. As you said, scheffler and his attorney as said that this was all just a terrible misunderstanding. Scheffler has been extremely complimentary of the Police Departments so far. He has been cooperating with the investigation, but we also have an Incident Report by the Police Department which says that scheffler did not obey the orders of those Police Officers who were Controlling Traffic near the golf course and that as he continued to move his car toward the entry of the golf course, that he dragged at Police Officer who ended up being injured and that that is the result of that felony charge. Take a listen to what the mayor told us just a few moments ago the officer did not have a Bodycam Footage turned on during the incident, we will release footage that we have a we do not have any to my knowledge, we have not yet had discovered any video of the initial contact between mr. Gillis and mr. Officer gillis and mr. Scheffler there is some footage from across the street of a fixed camera. When mr. Scheffler was being arrested. And we will release that footage in the coming days as for wearing a karam and it was on or there was no camping on i dont have certainty on that answer. We will get certainty for you on that though, when we released the footage that we do have available so for eid important to know here, the mayor also would not say whether or not he believes the charges should be drown downgraded, or dropped said hes going to let the Legal Process play out in the meantime scheffler expected to tie off in a short time from now, but on tuesday, he is expected to be arraigned on those charges. All right. Gloria pazmino. Thanks so much. Lets check in with a patrick snow there, who was at the tournament. So despite his arrest, Patrick Scheffler still managed to finish fridays round near the top of the leaderboard is gloria said hes gonna be teeing off soon. He starts today in the fourth place has he been talking at all about this incident he most certainly has fread. Yeah, welcome back to here to valhalla. Yes. Extraordinary Press Conference after his round on friday . No question about the offer get around about an hour and a quarter from right now, itd be Playing With A Belgian Play at thomas de tree, and his Fellow American Mark Hubbard as well. But, you know, from stretching in his jail cell on friday morning, fred two then making it out to the course just about it in time. For his tee off time and boy, did he respond . He got a terrific response. I will say from the fans are here, the spectators making a real show of support for him, letting him know they were right behind him and he responded good way the couple of early birdies in his round. But it was impressive. It was a five under 66, its saw him vaulting right up the leaderboard. As you said, and i just plays a creatures of habit, fred, i will say this. They liked their normalcy. They liked their routine and scheffler was very quick to try and get back into that. He was mingling with fans afterwards. And the Video Sending are very powerful imagery. I feel he was even much to many peoples surprise, i would say he was even talking to Police Officers as well out on the course. So extraordinary scenes there. And then afterwards, you really opened up sharing emotional insights into just what hed gone through in terms of his ordeal on friday. Take a listen to what he said when he faced porters after his round on friday my body was i was shaking almost i would say in shock and in fear. And so coming out here and trying to play today was definitely a challenge, but i did my best control my mind, control my breathing, and basically just calm down. Its like come on here and trying to well, golf. I knew there was going to be a lot of distractions, but i didnt really know what the reception would be like and to be honest with you, it was it was great having the fans behind me know that cheered for me really loud. It was i felt like they are really, really glad to help me out compete today and it was it was it was a nice de that come out here and compete in Fredrik Change Routine Due to different circumstances. Again, for Scottie Scheffler because you wont have as regular caddie on his bag today. Ted scott. Ted scott is attending his Daughters High School graduation on this day. Instead, scheffler will have his good friend, brad payne, pga tour chaplain on his bags are really cool moment there for mr. Paine wow, what an incredible set of experiences shall we say . All right, patricks now, gloria pazmino, thanks to both of the appreciate it. All right. Still aecom exclusive video obtained by cnn shows Sean Diddy Combs physically assaulting his thengirlfriend, Cassie Ventura during a 2016 altercation. Have a Los Angeles County District Attorneys Office is reacting that video next readings happen yeah thats not good. Happened huge things happen happens. Be there with three learn more at rnc. 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New Surveillance Footage obtained exclusively by cnn appears to corroborate some of the allegations of abuse against music mogul Sean Diddy Combs, the video captured on multiple cameras shows combs wearing only a towel assaulting his then Cassie Ventura, in a hallway at Los Angeles Hotel in march 2016, a lawsuit filed by Ventura In November last year, and settled the next day, referenced actions that seem to match those seen in this video. There is no audio according to the complaint combs became extremely intoxicated and punched ms ventura in the face, giving her a black eye which according to the lawsuit, prompted ventura to try and leave the hotel room. The Surveillance Video obtained by cnn begins as she enters the hallway. The complaint says, as she exited, mr. Combs awoke and began screaming at miss ventura he followed her into the hallway of the hotel while yelling at her. The complaint goes on to say he grabbed her and then took glass vases in the hallway and threw them at her in the Surveillance Video comes can be seen grabbing ventura and throwing her to the ground as ventura lies on the ground, combs then kicks her twice and attempts to to drag her on the floor back to the hotel room. Ventura is seen picking up a hotel phone. Comb seems to walk back to the hotel room, then returns and appears to shove her in a corner. Moments later, he can then be seen throwing an object in her direction according to venturas. Now settled lawsuit, the pair began dating several years after they met in 2005. They parted ways in 2019. Comes attorney said the decision to settle was in no way an admission of wrongdoing. Ventura declined to comment on the video, but her attorney told cnn the gutwrenching video has only further confirmed the disturbing and predatory behavior of mr. Combs words cannot express the courage and fortitude that ms ventura has shown in coming forward to bring this to light. The video hasnt been seen publicly before and comes on the heels of a series of Civil Lawsuits Alleging combs involvement in Sex Trafficking and sexual abuse allegations that combs has repeatedly denied authority, searched combs homes in los angeles and miami and march, as part of an ongoing federal investigation carried out by a team that specializes in Human Trafficking picking crimes in a December 2023 statement, combs responded to the claims in some of the lawsuits saying sickening allegations have been made against me by individuals looking for a quick payday let me be absolutely clear. I did not do any of the awful things being alleged clearly, very disturbing footage and violent actions that we are seeing coming from diddy who up until this point has denied many of these allegations from all of these lawsuits that he is facing aside from this lawsuit from casie, what she settled back in november 2023, he is facing five, seven for lawsuits and he has been fighting back through his lawyers. In fact just last week, we reported on emotion that he filed to dismiss a lawsuit from a jane doe that claims she was 17 years old, a minor at the time of her allegations in just a few days before that, he filed a motion to dismiss a portion of an entirely the different claim. Itll be interesting to see now how this may impact all that diddy is facing. But we have yet to hear directly from him Elizabeth Wagmeister. Thanks so much all right. Let me bring in cnn correspondent veronica miracle of rockin. Good to see you. So the Los Angeles County District Attorneys Office is now responding to this disturbing Surveillance Video. What are they saying . Thats right. Fredricka, the la County District attorneys office. Theyve posted a statement to instagram where they acknowledged theyve seen the video, they describe it as incredibly difficult to watch extremely disturbing. They also say that if this did in fact happen in 2016, they quote, unfortunately, we wouldnt be he unable to charge as the conduct would have occurred beyond the timeline where a crime of assault can be prosecuted. They also say that as of today, Law Enforcement has not presented a case to the District Attorneys Office. Weve reached out to the lapd. They acknowledged they too have seen the video that they are aware air of it, but theres not an Open Lapd Investigation against mr. Combs. Theres no open investigation at this time again, sean combs at this hour nor his attorneys, they have not responded to the video. Fredricka. All right. 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But we also heard in an interview done with our Victor Blackwell earlier today that air the president of morehouse said he will not tolerate that. That it will be an environment where everyone can hear, engage, and listen and appreciate the visit from the president of the united states. Well have more on the president s visit later on. All right. Now, more than 50 Million People are facing Severe Weather today, including some areas that have already been pummeled by destructive storms. Houston officials are assessing the damage from deadly storms that brought 100 mile per hour were wins to make matters worse, crippling humidity is coming after this weekend, storms, while many are without power or even Air Conditioning meteorologist alissa rafah, it tracking all of this for us. So what areas are we talking about . Were really watching that houston area closely still, even though the storms have exited and then there are a couple of more areas that are under the gun for some storms along the gulf coast is still more than a half of almost half 1 Million People without power across parts of texas as we go through the day today. Now the problem over the next couple of days is that heat well build, were looking at the heat index, so the temperatures coupled with the humidity are approaching 100 degrees. You could see it approaching 103 in brownsville, texas by monday, some middle and upper 90s for that heat index and corpus christi, even in houston, some of those heat index values in the middle nine these, again, a lot of these people dont have power or access to Air Conditioning right now, we also have air quality alerts and effect from the houston metro down towards galveston. Because when you get this very hot air, it could be stagnant and that traps the pollution that comes out of the tailpipes of our cars. So it makes the air quality pretty poor, especially for those that might have preexisting conditions genes lung or heart disease, children, elderly. So just take it easy, take breaks. If youre doing Cleanup Efforts outside in the houston area, heres the line of storms from the same systems continuing to work its way across the gulf coast has been pounding some heavy rain and some lightning this morning were watching for the development of maybe additional damaging winds as we go through the afternoon. Heres whats left of the flood watch from panama city to tallahassee were an additional two to five inches of rain can fall on already pretty saturated soils heres a look at this. 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How do you catch back jason, make more . Of what yours this is a secret, war. Secrets and spies premier sunday, june 2, attempt bomb cnn new today the Israeli Military says more than 300 pallets of humanitarian aid were delivered to gaza through a new Floating Pier built by the us military trucks began moving aid ashore after the pier was anchored into place on thursday, it will be used to funnel aid, not just from the us, but multiple countries that are also providing aid. The us says the goal is to get about 150 trucks filled with aid through to gaza inside gaza, the un says the Foods Situation remains dire with most Border Crossings remaining closed and thousands of residents are going without food and water. Lets bring in shayna low. She is a Communications Adviser at the norwegian refugee council, and shes in jerusalem, a shayna, good to see you. So how quickly is the aid being delivered that is now taking advantage of that peer . How can it actually get to people well, thats a huge challenge right now in gaza as that remained to be access issues, the ability to ensure that humanitarian trucks are able to move safely throughout gaza and to reach People In Need while of course, we applaud the efforts get in additional aid, the scaling, even once this pier reaches full capacity at an estimated hundred and 50 trucks per day, it is still woefully short of the needed aid. Thats needed to support the dire humanitarian situation in gaza. And tried to address the needs of the people whove been suffering there for the last 7. 5 months. In order to properly in order to properly and adequately address these needs, we need a surge of aid and the easiest way to get that aid in, as weve been saying for the last several months, is through the ground crossings that is the most efficient, costeffective way to get in aid and assistance. Theres been very little if any, aid getting in from the Southern Crossings Into Rafah over the last several weeks, week or two, despite the fact that there are literally thousands of trucks on the egyptian side of the border with lifesaving humanitarian assistance, just waiting to get in need that aid to get in as soon and as quickly as possible. And when you say 150 trucks is still woefully short to meet the need. In the meantime what are you seeing happening there in terms of what people are doing with the the small amount of aid that is getting in what we are seeing in as we conduct our distributions, as that people are just getting increasingly desperate. Weve seen a huge displacement take place over the last two weeks or so with close to 700700000 people being displaced from the Southern City of rafah in gaza. I spoke to a staff member of ours whos been attending our distributions. She said the level of desperation is just unimaginable. This is coming from a season humanitarian. She said she saw people passing out because of malnutrition. People desperate, put trying to push one another, get to the front the line to express how desperate their needs were and their need for assistance. We have a small amount of aid that we managed to get in before the first Evacuation Orders in rafah. But we are quickly running out. These are hygiene kits. Weve run out of tens, i think all ngos providing tense in gaza are now out of tents and many of the people so who are being displaced do not have any form of shelter. Whatsoever and hasnt been your observation that with the a that is getting in the aid delivery that is happening, that theres a shortage of fuel and even that is yet one more obstacle to deal with. Were hearing from our teams that the shortage of fuel is a huge hindrance to being able to access communities in need for people to be able to move for us to be able to move our goods. We have had difficulty procuring trucks that are willing to enter the areas where our warehouses are because of security but he risks and the fear of being stuck in the south as hostilities continued to escalate down there and weve had, as theres liquidity crisis, theres no cash on hand. It becomes more and more difficult to hire trucks, especially as the cost of fuel has doubled in just the last two weeks, we desk currently need more fuel and of course, the thing that were hearing the number one thing that were hearing from people on the ground is that they desperately need a ceasefire. They cannot go on much longer under circumstances like this. And our colleagues said, every morning despite how far it seems, people are waking up and just hoping for a ceasefire and imagining what they would do so how they would be able to return to their homes and start rebuilding their lives. Thats what we need to continue to be pushing for in addition, of course, to the surge of aid entering gaza. 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Trumps attorneys called into question the purpose of a key october 2016 call with trumps bodyguard that cohen testified was about the Stormy Daniels Hush Money Payment im joined now by debbie hines. Shes a Trial Attorney and a former baltimore prosecutor good to see you. Debbie. So lets begin with that call it became such great of great focus on thursday. So it lasted about the call, meaning it lasted about a minute, 30. And cohen testified that in that caught really was like 96 seconds of the call was about the Hush Money Payment but Defense Attorneys were able to show texts leading up to that call all focusing on a prank caller who was bothering cohen cohen came back with okay. Well, we talked about both. Is this a significant discrepancy . So i think this is the only thing significant that the defense has basically harb doing, you know, from all, the two days plus that theyve done the crossexamination because this call those two one of the elements of the case, whether Michael Cohen told donald trump exactly what was being done with the hush money and confirming what was being done. So if theyre casting doubt, they mean either defense, if they are casting doubt. One was that what you were doing . Or was it Something Else going . One, was it a prank caller that goes to the meat and substance of the case. So that was probably i think out of all the two plus days that they went on that was the most significant issue that they hopped into. Do you think this case hinges on cohens testimony no, not totally and that is why the prosecution spent most of their time before they got up to putting one, Michael Cohen. They spent most of their time presented the the witnesses, presenting the documents, laying out the foundation are though it was very boring probably for the jury to hear about phone records, to hear about texts, to hear about documents that supported the testimony that would be coming up with Michael Cohen. So no, it doesnt hinge 100 or Michael Cohen, but there is no getting around it. Michael cohen is a substantial element of this case. The jury has to find him credible. They dont have to like him, but they have to find him credible in order for the prosecution to actually get a successful verdict of guilty verdict from what you heard. And obviously a lot of people were relying mostly on a transcripts unless you had an opportunity to be in the courtroom. Did you feel like cohen was credible . So you know, the how i answered this life id rica. It really does it matter what myself and all the pundits and legal analysts really think the only thing that really matters, or what those 12 persons in the jury that are going to decide the case . Some of what Michael Cohen said, i did find it believabull. I mean, in the sense that they harb to they discussed his vindictiveness and here was a man who spent ten days. I mean, ten years skews me, with donald trump Doing Everything that donald trump wanted him to do . Yes. I think that part was believable and i think the reason for his thing dictum this is believable two, because in essence, donald trump just pushed them under the bus when he got indicted so i think there are things that cant be believed, but in terms of reasonable doubt, which is what the prosecution has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. If theres one or two or however many jurors that do not believe that have some reasonable doubt about Michael Cohens testimony that totally ends up with either a hung jury if they cannot convict on all 12 or i dont think it would be at night guilty with what the prosecution has put on i think that would their two more towards a hung jury, so yes, everything does in a certain matter depend on Michael Cohen. All right. Well leave it there for now. Debbie hinds. Great to see you. Thanks so much. Thank you. All right. Up next, a new Clinical Trial. Show the drug wegovy may have benefits beyond weight loss and diabetes that is not trump hush money, trial, gavel to gavel coverage. The weight only cnn can bring it to you. 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And this is cnn drug makers are looking into how new drugs for diabetes and weight loss like ozempic and wegovy may have benefits beyond losing some extra pounds, right now, researchers are analyzing the longest Clinical Trial yet of wegovy and the analysis is raising new questions about how the wildlypopular medicines in this drug class should be used and covered by insurers cnn Health Reporter Jacqueline Howard is here with more on all this. So tell us more about this trial. Yeah. Well, this trello filed followed people over four years, fred. So they followed people taking wegovy over four years and they found that among those people taking a dose of the semaglutide, each week, they had a 20 reduced risk of heart attack and stroke. And this isnt people who exactly and this isnt people who had cardiovascular disease. So they were already at risk so the researchers are now wondering, okay, was this reduced risk a result of simply losing weight . Eight or is more happening here because even people who didnt lose weight on wegovy still showed these cardiovascular benefits and some scientists are thinking, is this because of how semaglutide is can reduce inflammation in the body, or is more happening wow, thats the question. Okay. Thats good, intriguing. But then did the study address any kind of side effects, especially if youre on at long term. There were no new side effects that emerged over the fouryear period that we didnt already know about. So we already know about side effects like diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, those did emerge for some people, but those are side effects we already knew about. But over the four years, people who did lose weight, they were able to sustain the weight loss. So these longterm effects, yeah, theyre important to watch over time, especially were now at a place where at least 25,000 people are taking a semaglutide each week . Yes, that especially