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Beach, were going to win the state of new jersey the testimony and delays shaping the race hes redeemed man, and he was a really good present as biden crisscrosses the country predecessor made promises which he broke on my watch. We make promises and we keep promising rfk sent alarm bells ringing isolate biden pleases know what do reporting as democrats fret up and down the ballot regret that durham hammering first, who are in effect reflecting the views of hamas, they are like us being critical of israel by the race for the senate in maryland gets vicious very, anxious to get the primary over with control of the chamber at stake plus on trial, the other big court case, kicking off tomorrow that are your trial starts next week. If youre convicted, we resigned Inside Politics, the best reporting from inside the Corridors Of Power starts now good morning welcome Inside Politics sunday. Im raju, it was a week of intense, personal and even graphic testimony in his new york hush money case. And now donald trump is back in campaign mode. Lashing out at the prosecutor and judge saturday in a beachside, new jersey rally hit the trail for the First Time Since adult film star Stormy Daniels testified in court about her alleged sexual encounter with the former president , which he denies. And as soon as tomorrow, the former president may come facetoface. With the prosecutions star witness, his ex lawyer and fixer, Michael Cohen. Now, in the last few weeks as his trial has unfolded, trump has held very few campaign events, even on his days off from the courthouse. Meanwhile, President Biden has been tried to shore up his support and rebuilt his fraying coalition as he crisscrosses key Battleground States in speaking to donors at a Washington State fundraiser, you just yesterday, biden called trump, quote, clearly unhinged and said, quote, something snapped in him after he lost in 2020. Now cnns Alayna Treene is live in elastic city just up the jersey shore from where trump held his rally yesterday afternoon. So what did trump after say about but all of his Court Challenges and that in the past week well, really interesting a minute because i think it was a big question going into saturday, whether donald trump would be tempted to potentially violate his gag order and attack Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen, of course, is not allowed to do that. Hes not allowed to go after there are witnesses, but his lawyers had actually tried to alter that gag order last week because they argued that its not fair that someone the witnesses are able to attack donald trump and that he cant defend himself. But instead of doing that, he talked about the cases more generally, he also baselessly claimed that President Joe Biden and democrats were the ones behind in his charges. Of course, something we know is not true. Take a listen to how he put it in wild would yesterday and as you know, ive come here from new york where im being forced to endure a biden show trial. All done by biden jared by all being done by m carried out by Radical Democrat District Attorney you know, is fat often corrupt guy. And then we have a highly conflicted judge. Hes corrupted, highly conflicted show conflicted. Theres never been a judge this work inflicted so mano clearly just going very hard after the judge. And again, democrats, although we know that democrats are not involved in that trial, but look, i also want to bring your attention to some other things. I think its really interesting that donald trump chose to hold one of his days outside of the courtroom in new jersey estate it that we know is not a critical background, no hate on new jersey. I am from here. But his team acknowledges that this isnt really a state that they thinking can win. However, donald trump claimed yesterday that he actually thinks he could, could be competitive in new jersey and argued that hes going to make a play for it. He also praised doug burgum, the north dakota but a governor also on his vp contender less. He brought burgum up to the stage as well and praised him during that. And he said to watch for Something Big thats coming. Its unclear if thats a tease to him being on his shortlist, but we know from our reporting that burgum is someone whos very high on his list as a contender for Vice President manu. All right. New jersey is very one lana. Lana train and atlantic city. Thanks for that. All right. Im joined now here on set its with cnns Sara Marie Semaphore Is David Why gold and cnns jeff zeleny. Good morning to you all happy mothers day, especially to the new mother at the table. Thanks for joining us. So just to remind viewers about just the intense week that happened in Court Last Tweak Stormy Daniels testified about her alleged sexual encounter with donald trump, a. Described it in detail. She talked about the hush money that came after the access hollywood tape, of course, was least that was right before the 2016 campaign. She was accused by trumps attorneys by for lying for profit look, trump is clearly distracted by all of this. So as you can see from attacking alvin bragg, the prosecutor calling him, quote, to fat alvin in this, but also not hitting the Campaign Trail. Biden has been crisscrossing the country. This is a rare rally for donald trump in a blue state its clearly having an impact in him in this key moment in the campaign. Yeah, i think its interesting that one of Donald Trumps chief complaints about these trials is, oh, its going to take me off of the Campaign Trail. You know, hes a criminal defendant. He has to be in that courtroom every day that court is in session, but he hasnt really been using his downtime and away. You might say, is most effective. He has been able to sort of take over the news cycle thats the upside, i guess of being the criminal defendant. Is that were watching everything he does, including whether he is or is not snoozing in the courtroom becomes that at the end of the day, he makes remarks when hes leaving court, so there is sort of a weird way. Its some benefit he gets from being in court, from being in front of cameras every day, even if hes not out there holding rallies. Yeah. The big the interesting, obviously, were trying to assess and the reason why of course, is so significant is how does this impact what happens in november . Thats verdict. Thats going to eventually come. What will ever to of course, theres no way of predicting how this could play out. But is this the only case that could actually reach a verdict Come November Trump has had success in delaying several of the cases as hes done, the classified documents case, theres essentially postpone indefinitely because of an order from the judge this past week, the Georgia Election subversion case, it says august 5, but its unclear if that actually is going to happen before november of its tied up. Another court issues and as well as the president ial election interference case, a federal case thats paused of vr over the Supreme Court decision about whether he has immunity as he claims that he does. But has he been successful in convincing the American Public that he says hes unfairly being prosecuted. Look at the way that this pbs Newshour Paul breaks this down. I mean, the between democrats and republicans, obviously majors play about what another believe it was fair to see what their thoughts on the investigation and fair or unfair, but independence is split down the middle 49, 49, about whether they believe trump is being treated fairly, right . Thats why democrats arent necessarily happy that this has dominated the news as you were talking about, they would love if they could control the news is i think that they might do, they would love it if the focus this week was on, what did he say to donors mid maralago about how hed get rid of regulation if they gave him more money what his tax policy, there are classic democratic issues that they beat mitt romney with, that they think donald trump is vulnerable on and they talk about them, feel biden talks about them, and they cant they cant get covered. Im not saying that the helpless person in the media, trump is also in public talking more about these trials. One thing hes did doesnt new jersey. He said this about Henry Cuellar when he got indicted last week too, in texas, is that he has a mono method every every thing happening, every political Corruption Case is the Biden Administration trying to take out its enemies and its very simple to understand thats very direct, that put positions him as the guy who fighting corruption and democrats are struggling to say, well, look at the record. He might bring into the white house. Yeah. I look there is no concern among democrats some of them i talked to about the fact that there may not be a verdict region. Several of these cases, including the decision by the judge in the florida classified documents case to essentially postpone this indefinitely. Do you think that judge cannons out of our element here i think there are increasing welljustified doubts about the ability the experience that this judge should have to deal with this kind of challenging case. There were you worried that trump me now face they may not be convicted felon come november. Im deeply concerned about a possible delay which may deny justice the american people, im sure theyre going to have an impact on voters in some respect. So he said blumenthal i am deeply concerned about a possible delay which may denied justice to the american people. Look, it looks like the trials are going to be delayed. So the reality here is that the Campaign Trail has merged with a courtroom, but this is going to be a decision of the voters. This is not going to be decided by a judge or a ct. And as you said earlier, for your mind and i think its important to keep pointing out we have no idea the political fallout of a verdict in new york. We just dont i mean, a conviction. My amplify him. It also might cause deep questions among those independent voters the poll that you showed is really interesting there because there are independence are watching this. I was in wisconsin this week talking to voters theres and people are not paying attention to the blow by blow of the trial, but people who want to move on beyond the chaos, its not good for them. Donald trumps supporters think hes under attack here and they think this is all ridiculous. So well have to see what the followed is of this. But i think interestingly, this week as we head into Michael Cohen how does this affect donald trump personally . Its getting to him. Theres no doubt. And for all the idea of campaigning will find out if campaigning actually matters. But fundraising does matter. Donald trump is way behind on that. Thats what President Biden has been doing, is hes been traveling across the country. I was on the west coast, so thats one of trumps shortcomings in one of the shortcomings too is being able to consolidate the Republican Party weve seen weaknesses with haley voters, nikki haley voters, in particular, after she dropped out of the primary, look at this several states, shes still getting a sizable amount of votes, including an indiana this past tuesday republican primary, 22 of course, thats going to be a battleground, but there are Battleground States on that list. And i talked two republicans, senators about this donald Trump Supporters about nikki haley, the impact that theyre having in some non down trumps supporters in this, in this clip. Say about trumps weakness amongst suburban voters in swing style. I think its pretty clear that impulse weve lost some ground in that area. Weve got to gain it back. I think its notable to have someone whos exited the race still receiving 20 of the vote though. So would that say they weaknesses candidate it says there are a lot of republicans out there who are attracted to someone like nikki haley, even if shes no longer in the race, will look. I i certainly think itd be helpful for Ambassador Haley to endorse the precedent. And if you dont think joe biden has been a good president , and i would hope nikki, haley and i agree on that then why not endorsed a nominee for president thats jd vance, of course, on the vp shortlist, hes calling on nikki haley to endorse, but she is meeting with our donors this weekend. No plans to endorse, so they have an impact you know, its hard to know. I think if theres 20 of folks who are backing nikki haley or ever im going to be for trump. This may be a block of voters that dont necessarily care what nikki haley has to say about where they should go. Instead, i think its very clear that there is a base of not just republicans but americans who want an alternative to Donald Trumps certainly, but also want an alternative to joe biden. It. I was talking to a supporter and a longtime friend of nikki haleys and said she doesnt control these voters. Its not something that an endorsement is going to change, as sarah said, some, these are now hes voters are looking for someone else, but also talking to that friend says he knows how to reach her if he wants to make amends and start winning over voters. So the haleys scores, theyre like donald trump needs to call her. Yeah. So it meantime, over the weekend, he said shes not on his vp less im not sure exactly what hes probably true for the its hard to imagine her passing the loyalty test. Yes. I dont think that she would. All right. 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How solomon in new york is cnn President Biden is walking the finest of leinz on israel, going ever more isolated as he faces anger from the right over its increasing rift with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blowback from the left for not doing enough all the while, israel continues to resist bidens pressure, pressing deeper into southern gaza, ordering tens of thousands more people to leave the city of rafah on saturday. Now president continues to take flak for a report released late friday sharply critical of israels use of american weapons in gaza. But that held back any repercussions its a massive diplomatic dodge. It is frustrating because its so important at this moment that we use the leverage we have to persuade israel to change its conduct yet as bidens left wing continues to voice their frustration, some of the most Progressive Democrats now, now are vulnerable because a pro Israel Forces within the party targeting them in their primaries. My panel is back up the biden has been first he came out he was resolutely in support of what was happening in israel. He was 100 behind netanyahu, republicans applauded him. Now hes moving closer to the position in this growing position in his party, and hes getting flack from the left, even though some of them did applaud them, as you can see on your screen when hes when he made that wanting to erin burnett, that he would not allow for military certain ammunition to go to bombs to be given to israel if orders a fullscale invasion into rafah. But hes getting hammered on both sides it is incredibly difficult position. What are you hearing inside the white house about how theyre dealing with this well, started, its very with the Protest Movement that hes dealing with. And the democrats who were frustrated about where hes been going. Yes, that was significant statement the white houses had a position that he is not bending. He said, the president has said out loud, he has not been moved by the student protest. Protesters took that statement as evidenced that they were they were getting some traction. Young committed movements said, this is a good step forward, but we need him to end a wall. Will weapons for israels work. What unquote, which is not going to happen so the white house has been denials, a tough word they have, they have sort of port it, put this off to the side. Everything from events were protesters are screens that theyre not coming in smaller events and people cant interrupt disrupt the messaging. They have tried to continue this, this policy, white white blood will pleasing nobody this statement did, please, in a very small level, some student protests. But whats the impact of that going to be . Yeah, people whove been protesting they have been told. All right. We can make an impact even though he said we didnt if we keep being obstinate and we keep threatening democrats with defeat. And if this is invasion continues to go on and theres no ceasefire, this is going to be obviously it continued issue that the presence gonna have to grapple with the november impact is something of course, we assess here on Inside Politics, one of the impacts that could happen in is within the Democratic Party down ticket members, some of the more progressive members who have been critical of the Israeli Government sharply critical of israel. Weve new reporting. This morning with my great colleague, isaac dovere, about how Jamaal Bowman it was one of the more liberal members of the house, democratic caucus. He is now facing a very difficult primary. In fact, he could lose. Theres a belief among a lot of democrats that he could very well be the one of the first members to lose in large part because of his view on israel has a june primary. I caught up with both him and cori bush is another member on the left who is being targeted read by those pro Israel Forces is coming after you prop it up, youre challenger. George latimer. What do you think about the fact that youre being targeted i mean, it is what it is. Its all good. You know, we have a really strong record in a district like us being critical of israel, but they dont understand is us being critical of an ally . Im sorry, allies, stronger and safer in the long term. You unequivocally condemn hamas for october 7 my for, october 7 i say how many times have you not looked at my statements . So go look at the statements so good. Look back at her statements. One of them said that from october 7 talked about hamas condemning. She said shes heartbroken about the violence that happened there. On the, by hamas militants on israel, Israeli Border towns in an Israeli Military bombardment. She condemned the targeting of civilians. Jeff, how do you see the new view cover progressive politics, Democratic Politics very closely. How do you see this plane now . A look i mean, its sort of different district by district where there was a primary just a couple of weeks ago in the pits for a gary and some really at democratic member of congress was also under attack on this issue. And she won the primary just fine. So well see i think it depends how strong the number isnt in their district overall writ large. That what dave said was very interesting. The statement from the uncommitted movement, that movement that brought the uncommitted vote in michigan and some other states was the most positive statement toward the Biden Administration that weve seen in months, saying it was a step forward. So if you take a look back at this President Biden has moved dramatically from that hug with netanyahu and he fluid israel in the days after the attack. But look, its not enough for some, but this so still dividing the Democratic Party, dividing the progressive winning. But someone like Jamaal Bowman is, you know, i mean, he may have severe issues, but his district is much different than corey bushes district, for example, in st. Louis. So i think its district by district will see but one thing this will play out as we know the chicago democratic convention. And look, theres also the people of course, theres a big proisrael part of the democratic come party as well, including congressman steady, the former House Majority leader what do you think would just in general their positions on israel . Does it concern you your colleagues regret that there are members who are in effect i think reflecting the views of hamas which are to kill jews the eliminate israel and when youre talking about from the river to the sea i think its very unfortunate. Yeah, he says that he didnt name names. He said some of the members in his party are reflecting the views of hamas. Yeah, i think that this is really laying bare the split within the Democratic Party and also just the complexity you have this issue. There are a lot of people who are coming to this issue new who are not familiar with the history in that region. Now that doesnt mean that they will never right to have an opinion on what theyre seeing happening. But i also think this pressure that the Biden Administration is feeling, this pressure of the Democratic Party is feeling is also because of what we have seen playing out on the ground. Its because of the Human Terrion Crisis that weve seen that accumulated its because of the civilian deaths that are mounting. And so i think that theres no sign that any of this pressure is going to go away as you pointed out . Will be a huge issue when we get to dnc. But one thing you some really didnt pittsburgh and the rest of the squad, squad plus is going to do is take biden statement and polarize this domestically and say, what do you think of israel, who is getting involved in these races . Its republican donors, its people who donate to conservative candidates apex pac has been helping republicans. Why is it against me . Youre going to hear that over the next few months these primary to refrain, thats not about the israel position and it is about why are these donors so interested in eating me . Why are these republicans who just didnt beating me so democrats trying to push the israeli shadow side and make it pop polarized and pipe partisan and how does this play in november of course, thats a big question. Will this impact biden . There was a poll that came out about wisconsin voters, that clinic pi, polls International Conflicts are ranked lowest on this list. Most of course, the Economy Preserving Democracy right underneath that jeff, youre just in wisconsin and i want to i want our viewers to listen to what they he said. Do you about their issues your paycheck, and it looks good. But then when you pay the bills out, its like, wow, its all gone or they can who gets the blame for that you think . All right. Thank the administration. Thats in power because thats thats when it happened. I just think that people had forgotten how chaotic it was. When trump was president. I feel a lot better now that weve had almost four years of biden not great, but its better yeah. What was your takeaway . So the bottom line is inflation is still a much more central concern to most voters. Thats not saying that Foreign Affairs isnt, but its sort of under the rubric of strong leader. Is President Biden a strong leader . Does he look like hes in commanded these issues . That is what is going to be front and center. But for all the tragedy. And attention that Foreign Policy is taking up. Its not front of mind for voters. Interesting. All right, up next to reliably blue stain. Now up for grabs in november, you may be stunned to learn just how much one democrat is spending out of his own personal fortune to win coming up new reporting on how Donald Trumps team is growing concern about robert jonas cnn this morning with Kasie Hunt Weekdays at five eastern skin craving next level hydration neutrogena, hydro boost, water cream, and boost of nine times more hydration thats clinically proven to boost your skins barrier for quenched dewy skin. Thats full of life. Neutrogena hydro boost Choice Hotels is a family of brands with a hotel for any traveler you want to be like a Craft Cocktail Kind of sue or the Cambria Hotel bar . Uhhuh. Uhhuh for mr. Tackled, the inbox, so its room service time and a riotous hotel effervescence excuse me sorry. Can i just soapy . Come on in . I just wanted to order coming into the bar. 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Its become personal with racial issues and trolls, wealth central to the attacks. So ahead of this, tuesdays primary, i asked the two sitting Maryland Democratic senators about the personal attacks being leveled between the two Democrats Angel Ulcer Books is the stronger candidate. She the best candidate. Im proud of, endorsed her shes the best candidates are run against larry hogan in the general election and its, its unfortunate that the Trone Campaign decided to go negative. We have to really the people running im very anxious to get the primary over with so we can concentrate on the general. This happens during campaigns. I would prefer to see it run with the each candidate promoting themselves of course, it didnt quite happen that way. Dave, you were just using the story for some before about theres the headline, democrats never expected this Senate Primary to have such high stakes in, in their trone tells you that he believes that his money is vast. Word gin. Will give them a lot more flexibility them as and democrats spending money elsewhere. What was your takeaway . Yes, hes very blatant as part of my takeaway trone. If you ask about his his spending advantage, he founded total wine. He has a lot of money to play with. He spent more than 61 million on this primary with the expectation you want to spend another 61 million. I asked him as part of your message here that the dsmc can spend a montana and ohio and another, democrats want to worry about. And he said yes. And when have you gotten the race that did transform things because marylands never elected a nonwhite. Its elected a white female, snyder, its its mostly elected white mans never elected a black woman to the senate. And a lot of democrats publicly started saying, id love to make history, but im very nervous maybe this wealthy candidate can take the seat off the board and the reaction you saw for the senators is that alsobrooks is turn that into my opponent is going needlessly negative. And if he has to spend 61 million to beat me, whats the why are you so confident that is able to beat larry hogan was quite well liked and is really up for grabs or its been a majors bled, just look into the endorse first mens, how its gone between awesome brooks, intron, the senators are one of them. As you heard from chris van hollen, democratic senator not endorsing his remember from the delegation and endorsing Angela Alsobrooks instead. But youve mentioned the spending. This is just the ad spending 46 million he spent on ads compared to 4 million. End to what advantage . Any still be that when i mean, it looks very close expensive a market because a lot of those ads bleed over into virginia right here, into dc. But look, this is going to be a fascinating contest i still have a little bit of a hard time thinking larry hogan has a strong shot in november. He is a difference between a governors race and its the democrats tried to say, control. The senate is at stake for particularly with President Biden on the ballot, but we shall see, but the money point is a fascinating one. I cant recall a time when someone has been so blatant about that any is not apologetic. Yeah. They usually like they dont like to talk about are wealthy is that hes refreshing that hes not running away from it, but it is a central issue. Yeah, it is in speaking of which the ads weve talked about very personal. Just take a listen you get what you pay for. David trone in his companys gave half 1 million to extreme and maga republican tends to win their elections Angela Hochul false attack ad against david trone claims, again, what you paid for it, maybe thats why also works is rankin thousands from lobbyists. When i hear my opponents thank things about me. He knows are false. I know its just another way were different. What hes done, and congresss way hes got to set us senate is not a place for training mean well us senate is not a place for trading those hes had to clean that up a bit, but i mean politics is a dirty business. I know theres always all the frothing about the primaries now, negative the primaries are, i think maryland and democrats are, there are gonna be able to figure it out. You might, behind whoever wins man 60 million out of money. Imagine putting that money in and not winning curious to see what when you were out, the did democrats, or is there a fear on the ground that they this could cause some in november . This backandforth . Yes. This week, a number of state Democratic Party chairs who mostly are supportive alsobrooks came out the senate was kind of funny, prone to, given a prescott Trumps Campaign had a press conference. Latino leaders for pg county is saying that alsobrooks was not respectful to latinos and then two hours later in the very same place, it was a polling site in silver spring, these former Democratic State harris came out and said, this campaign is two negative. Its david drones fault. Hes going to have trouble uniting the party if he wins. I asked susie turnbull, form, former chair, would you have trouble winning black voters . She said, yes, its a real problem. Hes made mistakes. Hes the Training Wheels Comments stuck. Hes made other gaffes. You and hes emphasized that he spent a lot of money on charity, on criminal justice reform. But democrats are saying please, this is way uglier than we need to erase in a very Blue Satan State to be, youre going to have trouble if you are a nominee. And steve daines chairman of the republican central campaign, coming i asked him about this. He said, the Democratic Party, the fight is not going to help is getting very personal, very expensive at homs the cause. And i asked tim about but arent you concerned about david trans money . Hes got so much money that kind of helped democrats can now he said, well, you spending this much money, you get a Beacon Barreling when a primer, right . But a general obviously its a very different matter in a very blue state. So again, its hard for me to, even though larry hogan very popular in a senate race, i think a lot well have to happen for this to be massively competitive in the fall, i could be wrong. Well see, but senate races generally in president ial years, its hard to make them over the top of the tickets split ticketing, voting has been rare on the ticket and actually split to the fact that is to voting has not been as common in recent cycles actually could hurt democrats in other states like an ohio sure in montana where theyre trying to keep their seats. All right. Rfk jr. Has been getting a lot of attention for revealing he had a worm in his brain coming up. New reporting on whos worried theres a threat in november and donald trump wont be the only politician in new york courtroom tomorrow. I caught up with the lawmaker targeted in that other highprofile case. Youre your trial starts next week. If youre convicted, we resigned from tried and true to try something new so many ways to save life ready wallet, happy. 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Made headlines for that parasitic worm that got into his brain. But thats not whats concerning the Trump Campaign. Its the fact that rfk jr. Is getting on more ballots across the country new reporting from cnn, this weekend shows how the Trump Campaign views oraa k is real problem. And so trump and republicans have increasingly attacked rfk jr. By trying to paint him as a leftwing liberal. Now while pulls a very and the impact rfk would have on the race, the Trump Campaign is worried about ones like this weve showed trump leading biden by 2 in a headtohead race, but losing to biden by 2 when rfk enters the mix ago that is within the margin of error by panel is back. Trump posted also on social media, going after rfk jr. Rfa junior is a democrat plant a radical left liberal whos been put in place in order to help crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of the United States get reelected a vote for junior would essentially be a wasted protest vote what do you make of the uptake in the Trump Campaigns targeting them . Rfk janja, its especially the second part of that where he emphasizes that rfk is a fake antivax candidate using the if theyve x, which is this has been a defining issue of gagnes greer for 18 years, criticism of vaccines. That is interesting its very friendly, its not, its not as detailed and dug in as democrats. Democrats have an entire opposition operation, multiple staff working both publicly against him emphasize putting out opposition research, trying to hurt him as he gets onto, onto state ballots. Republicans are just putting out these comments. Trumps putting out these comments and trump trump invited rfk jr. To meet him after the 2016 election when he was discussing a possible Role Administration patients. So hes not consistent on this. Hes trying to throw up dust and say to voters were lightly paying attention, listening too, conservative podcast and media. This guy whos doing a lot of conservative podcast media, very popular guest on shows. Lets do by trump voters, that you cant basically trust them, but theyre not doing a lot more than that. You talked to the Biden Campaign a lot of very readily really are they changing their approached rfk jr. Anyway a little bit. Theyre doing a lot behind the scenes to watch specific state Ballot Access things potentially challenging uh, signatures and things. But its been interesting to watch that not really increased. They are watching to see all this play out because there is a school of thought that it does help what biden, in some respects. I mean, the reality that all of this, so the reason that some people are looking at rfk juniors, that theres not a lot of interest in biden and trump. There is a huge sense out there that people were looking for a different alternative. So the Biden Campaign is definitely watching it in Battleground States in wisconsin, for example, it only takes 2000 signatures to get on the ballot. You can get that saturday morning at the Farmers Market and madison is you know, yeah. I mean, that is going to be pretty easy. So in the Battleground States, it is going to make a difference and the Biden Campaign is worried about that. I appreciate the madison reference and the question also is the debate stage. Will robert f. Kennedy jr. Make the debate stage . He put out a tweet after this whole worm issue came out saying, i offered to eat five more brain worms and still beat President Biden, president trump, and President Biden in a debate. Now, our colleague harry enten, reported about this weekend that actually he might make the debate stage. And because the threshold, the Polling Threshold is reached, certain pollen threshold, itd be on the ballot a number of states, the map on your screen there it shows you that he has actually is making it on more and more balanced, but third party, if he gets on the debate stage, that changes everything thirdparty candidates obviously had a huge impact and past alleged since 2016 being the most recent example of that. But if hes on the debate stage, who knows where this land now, i think that you would have to be unreasonable to not have some heartburn if youre either the Trump Campaign or the Biden Campaign, not just because what happened with thirdparty can at it, its in 2016, but even just looking at the margins in 2020 and some of these Battleground States, you have to be concerned about rfk is ability to get on the ballot, which frankly theyve been doing a pretty good job of them being very public about saying we want the biden people and we want the trump people. We think that we can pull from both sides. And so i think that the two Major Party Candidates have a lot of heartburn about it. Yeah interesting how hes been dealing with some of his policy positions, rfk jr. He was talking about abortion this past week in the sort of had to clean it up this way. He said on thursday we should leave it to the woman, we shouldnt have government involved, even if its full term even if its full term. Im pretty unequivocal there, right. Even if its full turn both friday game i post and put it on x saying abortion should be legal up until a certain number of weeks and restricted their after, even in the redness of red stakes, he said voters reject total abortion bans. And he said that no one supports third dressed her aborts trimester abortions. What do you make of that but practically this is a reason why a debate and 90 minutes on stage where you dont have a bunch of Fact Checkers following up with things probably would be very good for rfk jr. Because he hes been very slippery on abortion, just sticking to this issue. Hes had multiple answers. Hes talked about different weeks limits easiest support based on who hes talking to, based on the pressure in the question, based on the friendliness the interviewer again, he does these very long interesting interviews that the people here on the way to work where hes taking different positions. So he i think if youre if youre joe biden, you think back to barack obama, mitt romney, i think the rumble barack obama was, they expected mitt romney to have to stick this nun positions. Hed taken me, didnt he evolved on stage . Thats the worry. They have and the Trump Campaign has, and barack obama, sorry, and Biden Campaign has about kennedy is that he is very movable except in a couple of courses that he doesnt talk about it all he can, he can change his position. He might do that in real time and it national audience. And the question is trumping has been attacking him will eventually bergamot and daga, we havent done that yet. Maybe we will in the coming weeks. All right. Next, we catch up with senator bob menendez just before his Corruption Trial is due to begin, york. And as his colleagues color to step down his anyone wish midend is good luck for next week for that sleeves ball from friends coming over to moms coming over so many ways to save life ready while it happy. 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Really if youre convicted, what you really any thoughts about the trial as we head into next week, im looking forward improving my innocence now menendez had already stood trial in another Corruption Case in 2017, when he also insisted he was innocent, that ended in a mistrial with a Jury Deadlock now, like then, menendez has refused to step down, even as a slew of his fellow democrats like John Fetterman want him gone asap anyone wish midend is good luck for next week for that sleeves ball. What if he is acquitted and runs for reelection . I guess i guess well see. But whats clearly happened, he got lucky the last trial, some people would say, i should to be more careful or i should fly or strike a straight. But now he thought is i can get away with anything. And then he tripled down on all that. He wont be around much longer. That would be my my my bet man has his trial is expected to last several weeks. 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