Court transcript former lawyer revealing new details about the Hush Money Payment been for the Adult Film Star, Keith Davidson, drawing connections between the deal and the 2016 president ial election, acknowledging he asked what have we done when trump won the defense seizing on davidsons history of Celebrity Clients with sensational cases in hopes of undermining his credibility. For the next hour, well take you inside the courtroom from gavel to gavel will break down todays most important developments and look ahead to whats next welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world im wolf blitzer with a Special Report in the Situation Room that trump trial today. De six of the testimony against donald trump wrapped up in New York City just a short while ago. Lets get right to the breaking news on what we learned the final witness of the De A Tech Analyst open the door for the prosecution to introduce a phone call involving trump into evidence. Cnns Kara Scannell is outside of the courthouse, would be york for us. Kara, tell us more about this recording and its significance. Well, if the jury heard several recorded conversations that were taken by Michael Cohen, trumps former attorney in this recording, cohen is speaking with former president and theyre discussing the 150,000 payment made to Karen Mcdougal. She is the former playboy model who alleged she had a monthslong affair with trump this is what the jury heard i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david yeah. So im going to do that right away. Id actually come about and ive spoken to Allen Weisselberg about and how to set the whole thing up with the funding that yes and its all the stuff all the stuff because you never know that company, never know what hes gonna be, correct. So im im all over that. And i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be hey, listen wont have to pay yourself if no woman on. I got no now wealth ultimately, the 150,000 was paid by american media, the publisher of the National Enquirer and was not coming out of trumps pocket. That was one piece of evidence. The prosecution to introduce today earlier, trumps attorneys were crossexamining Keith Davidson, the attorney for those women. They spent most of the morning trying to attack his credibility and suggests that he was trying to extort trump new details from a key witness. The exattorney of an Adult Film Star and playboy model, who brokered Hush Money Deals at the center of former president Donald Trumps criminal case. Getting ready to spend another day in the courthouse, which is bogus trial Keith Davidson, back on the stand on day ten of trumps trial, crossexamined by trumps attorney, who attempted to discredit davidson by painting him as a shady lawyer. Meanwhile, prosecutors tried to show how davidsons arrangement with a tabloid and trumps ex lawyer, Michael Cohen, to kill, to Bombshell Stories about trumps alleged affairs directly impacted the 2016 election. Trump denied hi is both affairs in his testimony, davidson recalled texting National Enquirer editor dylan howard on Election Night in 2016 as a results came in in favor of Trump Davidson said he texts howard, what have we done . Oh, my god. Howard replied davidson testified there was an understanding that our efforts may have in some way strike that. Our activities may have in some way assisted the president ial campaign of donald trump prosecutors played in Audio Recording of cohen saying, trump hates that they paid off Adult Film Star Stormy Daniels. Cohen was heard saying, i cant even tell you how many times he said to me, i hate the fact that we did it. And my comment to him was but every person that youve spoken to tells you it was the right move . The payment and conspiracy of trumps involvement in daniels Hush Money Deal is the crux of the prosecutions case. Prosecutors also questioned davidson about daniel sitting down with jimmy kimmel in january 2018 before the interview, daniels and her attorney released a statement denying an alleged affair with trump, but hours later, she told kimmel it did it didnt look like her signature and you sign this letter that was released today i dont know. Wait a minute that you can say with like my signature does after davidson said cohen threatened to rein legal held down upon her, and threatened to sue daniels multiple times and saying, dont f with us, you dont know who your ethics in with later that year, daniel said she felt she had to sign the letter denying and a fair which she said was alive if it was untruthful why did you sign it because they made it sound like i had no choice throughout the sometimes testy crossexamination, trumps attorney, emile bove ease sought to paint davidson as untrustworthy. He zeroed in on a 2012 fbi investigation into possible extortion involving the selling a former wrestler Whole Colgan Sex Tape Davidson said he was not charged in connection to the case. Boves attempted to tie davidsons involvement with hogans alleged extortion plot to his Hush Money Deals for daniels and 40 her playboy model, Karen Mcdougal, bow vs davidson. If he goes right up to the line without committing extortion, davidson responded, i dont understand the question. After court, trump said hes pleased with how his team is doing. A long day in court is always very happy about the way things you know now, trump was mainly sitting still for a lot of the testimony, but when his lawyers were crossexamining Keith Davidson, he leaned forward, he looked toward in the direction of davidson, it seemed to be pairing paying close attention jurors throughout the day, even when it was more salacious testimony are some of the drier parts, they all seem pretty engaged. What . Between the monitor in front of them and their Heads Bobbing between the witness and the lawyers asking a questions that the das witness right now is a computer forensic analysts. He is expected to be back on the stand tomorrow where they will introduce some more records obtained from Michael Cohen cell phones both Kara Scannell outside the courthouse in new york for us. Thank you. I want to break down right now just released Trial Transcript with our legal and political experts, Elliot Williams is here elliott, Keith Davidson testified at length about his contacts with Michael Cohen, right . He did add a look. We all know that Michael Cohen looms large over these proceedings. Certainly came up a lot today and there was an Interesting Exchange about an interaction that the two of them had. So lets get right into it. So steinglass, Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor, asks, after the election, did you continue to speak with Michael Cohen and davidson says, i did did well, did their Company Times during the month or two that followed the election when the topic of Stormy Daniels came up . Answer. Yes. Can you tell the jury a little bit about that . Cohen on pardon me, a dance after the election, Michael Cohen called me fairly frequently and there was one particular day it was on a weekend in middecember and this is the period of time after the election, but before donald trump had been sworn in as president , and it was, i think it was on a saturday morning and i was shopping for a holiday and i got a call from a very despondent and saddened Michael Cohen and i was added Department Store, which is a whole kind other story because it was sort of strangely decorated. The whole situation was very yeah that he was calling me and i was in a strangely decorated Department Store and it was a long phone colony told me he was depressed and despondent and he said that he used very colorful language about that stage of his life. Question, you are quoting. So you can repeat the language. Answer. He said something to the effect of jesus christ. Can you effing believe im not going to washington after everything ive done. Important there for that f thing guy, i cant believe im not going to washington. Ive saved that guys as so many times. You dont even know question. And did answer. And then im sorry. I didnt mean to interrupt you. Answer from davidson and then he made a reference to he said, you know, i never even got paid. He said that ethene guy is not even paying me the hundred and 30,000 back very interesting from the transcript will have more of that coming up on course khardori, what do you see the significance of that conversation between Keith Davidson, the lawyer, and Michael Cohen . Well, there are a few things i say theyre one is cohen clearly was on the outs with trump at this time, right . And thats a riff that of course grew over time. And so i think were going to see the defendant and say, look, colon has always had a motive to kinda smear trump and try to extract some revenge against him. Second, i think when you hear that that exchange, it becomes clear that cohen was really the Driving Force behind at least the mechanics behind the deal and that trump may have had little to no involvement in thats particulars of it. And we get that with the Audio Recording to im sure well get into and i think the third theme that i think was teased out today by the defense that is also addressed in that exchanges. Were dealing with a bunch of sleeves, margins, to be honest, these are not sympathetic people in the story at all. And i think that offense is going to want to emphasise besides that, because ctims and sympathetic people in these cases, someones interests that they can vindicate. And there is no ones interest of indicate here yet. Sarah mathews is with us as well. What do you see is the significance of this i am not sure if this trial is going to have much significance. Ill be honest. They think when youre looking at this case, a lot of this has already been known in the court of public opinion. A lot of people are aware that donald trump had this affair with Stormy Daniels and i dont know how many people are paying attention look voters often dont start paying attention until just a couple of months before the election. Usually at the end of the summer. And so i will say though that for those that are paying attention maybe we those voters who were on the fence about donald trump and maybe arent sure they really want to support him because they dont really like his character, but maybe they kind of like the policies a case like this that the forefront of their minds certainly doesnt help them with their with their image of donald trump. Look, he had an affair with a porn star and then tried to cover it up and mind you, this affair happened just days after his wife gave birth to their son so it could go both ways. I think that with his base theyre going to be hardened in their support for him. Its not going to make any difference. They have shown theyre going to stand by him no matter what, even if theres a conviction but for some voters, this could potentially persuade them is fair, is also around the same timeframe as the affair with Karen Mcdougal. If the sweep of Donald Trumps timeline here wolf, but to sarahs point, im not sure that were going to know the impact of this trial until there is a verdict. I dont think the the course of events out the trial that were covering day in and day out here is likely to shape much public opinion. I do think once there was a verdict, one way or the other, i think then we will have a stronger sense what the actual political impact here. I just want to note in listening to your very dramatic its of this. The fact that Michael Cohen ever thought he was going to washington in some big capacity as Attorney General or white house chief of staff, or Secretary Of State. I think he floated all of those things. Is beyond the realm of reality, even in a donald trump plan for an administration where it house council, white House Counsel because other thoughts, theres another part of the transcript that youre looking at is of interest, right . So one of the things that Kara Scannell had mentioned in her report at the top of this was that these relationships that are 11 are at the crux of the case. Prosecutors have to establish at least they happen, not just that they happen, but that conduct was done to suppress them from american voters. And there was an exchange regarding a statement made by Stormy Daniels that came up that she made. And so whats get into it right here so Joshua Steinglass, the prosecutor, asks, okay. Can you read for us the statement . This is a stormy daniel, a statement drafted for Stormy Daniels davidson sets to whom it may concern over the past few weeks, ive been asked countless times the comment on reports of an alleged sexual relationship that i had with donald trump many, many, many years ago. The fact of the matter is that each party to this alleged affair denied its existence in 2006, 2011 2016, 2017, and now again in 2018 i am not denying this a fair because i was paid quote, hush money as has been reported in overseas own tabloids im denying this a because it never happened, period. Next paragraph, i have no further comment on this matter, period please feel free to check me out on instagram at the Stormy Daniels and he says, excuse me, at the Stormy Daniels, Joshua Steinglass then asks mr. Davidson, how would you characterize the truthfulness of this statement davidson . I think its technically true question from steinglass, how do you explain that . Can you explain that . Can you explain how its true that it says an alleged sexual relationship which basically denies them having a sexual relationship. Is that right . Answer. Yes. Its question, how is that . How is that technically true answer or from davidson because i dont think that anyone had ever alleged that there was a relationship between Stormy Daniels, and donald trump . I believe their relationship is an ongoing interaction. Let me get on krister react to that. What do you think . I dont find that to be a terribly compelling defense of the statement that said shes repudiated that statement. Right. And the jury is gonna get to hear from her and theyre gonna be able to assess for themselves how seriously they should they should take that inconsistent statement its not great for her, but i think its something that the prosecutors can manage and potentially rehabilitate. Youd are david chang and these are clearly imperfect witnesses that the prosecution is calling to testify. Yeah. Because there is no perfect person in this entire scenario i mean, nothing about it is normal course of business for a president ial candidate seeking the highest office in the land. So while it might be normal course of business in other realms, it is not in that that realm. I do have one question for the lawyers here. I just what does so as davidson saying that this statement is true, the one that shes repudiated because i dont what is the point of him standing by the statement and they went on a little bit further in the trial today and theyre saying that it wasnt a relationship. It was an encounter. What does the word relationship . Shipments . Its bill clinton very literally. No it literally is depends on what the relationship is or what sexual relations with that woman mean. Because when you parse the legal definitions of the term, but can i just yeah, i completely agree with all of that, but i just want to add because remember, there are two lawyers on this jury right . That testimony is not particularly compelling, are credible. And again, it makes him unsympathetic. We also have of course, Michael Cohen having a recorded a conversation with client, also very unseemly, surreptitiously doing that. Some of this conduct i think is not going to sit well, at least with the lawyers who will know that this is not how youre supposed to conduct yourself i . Want to get your reaction, sara, something that trump posted on his social media site earlier today, you worked for him in the white house and on the campaign, this is what he posted. I i dont fall asleep during the cricket das, which are especially not today. I simply close by beautiful blue eyes, sometimes listen intensely and take it all in. What does that tell you i think it tells me that hes worried about all the Media Reporting that he is falling asleep in court. I mean, look, when youre attacking your opponent and calling them sleepy joe, but then youre the one falling asleep every day in the courthouse. I think he needed to push back on it even if its ally weve seen reporters who have been inside the Courthouse Have reported he is falling asleep. But i will say to his credit, these trials are probably really long and boring and having to show up every day probably quite exhausting but i would imagine im no legal expert, but i would imagine thats not a great look to the jury. It probably looks as if you dont care about this case. Thats a good point. Very important point. Firstly, the jurys reaction to what theyre seeing, thanks to all of you very, very much. Just ahead. Michael cohens name invoked numerous times during the testimony today is former lawyer lanny davis is here live. Well discuss were here to get your side of the store affairs. Bribery prostitution. Why do we keep ending up here . 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Yes and its all the stuff, all the stuff because you never know where that company ever know what hes going to be. Its it by correct so im im all over that i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be what will have to pay yourself getting old. I got no, no. Is this the most important piece of evidence introduced in this trial so far no. Its just evidence that mr. Trump was involved with Michael Cohen in the two incidents per which Michael Cohen pled guilty guilty. Charged by federal prosecutors. One involved the Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels and the other was the Karen Mcdougal contract. And this particular tape is about the second crime to which Michael Cohen pled guilty, even though he just did the paperwork involving the payment to ms smith google, but you notice the word cash spoken by donald trump. Its not easy to here, but it wasnt the reason i went on chris cuomo and released it to cnn because that morning, Rudy Giuliani trumps lawyer said it was that Michael Cohen had used the word cash and there was at that point with his Criminal Defense Lawyer that we decided we need to correct the record. That tape speaks for itself. Thats where you gave the tape to cnn, correct . At that time, the jury also today heard Michael Cohens voice for the first time. I thought it was significant. It in a stunning recording that link trump directly to Stormy Daniels payment. Let me quote from what he said. This is a direct quote. I cant even tell you how many times he trump said to me, i hate the fact that we did it. How significant is that i dont really know im going to really differ to the jury and to let the evidence speak for itself. And i remind everybody watching every time im on that, mr. Trump is innocent, man until 12 people under the rule of law, beyond a shadow, Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. So the Presumption Of Innocence is important to remember what you think well see and ive seen this movie because ive been in the room during the days that michael was being questioned and fact, for being assembled, that the documentation, the text messages, that of the whole story of the motivation which is the jurys decision whether he was politically motivated or not, if he was thats a crime that is going to be contextual. Itll depend a lot more than im Michael Cohens testimony, surrounded by witnesses, documents, text messages, as you well know, better than all of us. Michael cohen is a convicted felon and a convicted liar. Hes been portrayed as angry, difficult, desperate by witnesses in the course of this current trial, how does he overcome that when eventually hes called to take the stand. So i think hes been tested at least twice in my experience and why i found and tim credible, why took them on as a client number one, in front of the house, Oversight Committee on february 27 2019, he was brutally crossexamined, attacked as a liar, a perjure, all the words by the republican members of that committee and what did he say . He said i agree. Im ashamed im trying to do something for my family and my country. And the American People saw his performance and i think many judged him to be credible, but more important, a judge in new York Supreme Court heard him brutally crossexamined by trumps lawyers cant be any worse, i think then that Cross Examination and the Attorney Generals case of financial fraud and the judge found in writing that the judge found Michael Cohen credible, notwithstanding the past, which hes owned up to, and the fact that he was brutally crossexamined we heard during the course of the trial today how furious Michael Cohen was when trump didnt invite him to join him after trump was elected president in the white house. Maybe his white House Counsel or Attorney General may even suggested Secretary Of State what does that say to the jury when he was so furious well, im sure that the good Defense Attorneys would say that disbelief him because he was angry with donald trump and they can try to do that with the jury and its up to the jury to decide whether that undermines the credibility of what hes now testifying. Two despite whatever he did in the past. And i think that will let the jury decide that, but that at least so far, the American People have listened and followed michaels podcasts, his testimony under oath before congress and in a courtroom. And so far, the today is what the jury needs to judge, and im going to let them decide and not try to prejudge for them. Lets see what he says when he shows up in court. Thank you. Very much. Larry gave a sankey are hearing the Situation Room coming up. 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And arresting more than 200 protesters the protest site dismantled after a clash erupted tuesday night, when counter protesters, some of whom were pro israel Bruce Objects at tents, hurled fireworks, and pull down barriers setup by the propalestinian encampment uclas chancellor calling the attack, ill quote, dark chapter in the universitys history in the morning light, only trash, graffiti, and discarded tents remained of the encampment. They campus now swiftly being cleaned up nationwide, more than 2000 people have been arrested on college and University Campuses in the last two weeks including at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire Portland State university in oregon. Police officers in riot gear cleared barricades pushing out more than two dozen protestors, holed up in the College Library but many of the protests in recent weeks have been peaceful, including this one at George Washington university with dueling demonstrators some universities like colombia initially sought to negotiate with protesters while others called in Law Enforcement from the start to manage emotional protests focused on a highly charged international crisis. But i know objects were being thrown at officers during the night. The unrest closing campuses, and even canceling some graduation. Sarah from oneis ucla students forced into remote classes for the remainder of this week Rutgers University postponing or relocating some final exams the challenge now for College Administrators where protests were held and where arrests were made at more than 40 campuses nationwide to move away from Conference Im patient and focus back again on free speech safety, and education and out here you can see that quick work has been made of the campus here of the quad here, look at that. They cleaned up pretty much the entire school. The Chancellor Saying in a statement that while many of the process shows the cabinet remained peaceful, ultimately, the site became a focal point for Serious Violence and as well as a huge disruption to the campus. Also worth noting that the chancellor also said in a statement that there were 300 people who chose on their own to leave this encampment before the Law Enforcement officers went in. Well its not an yell. Im on the campus of ucla. Thank you very much, president biden. Meanwhile, is warning students across the United States that violent protest his word, violent protest is not protected in his first public remarks about the latest Campus Unrest across the country. See you Kayla Tausche is over the white house. Wheres kayla what bohr is the president saying . And why is he saying it now wolf, the president is saying in essence what hes been saying for weeks on paper and through spokespeople that he supports free speech and peaceful protests, but that antisemitism, violence and hate speech are not protected. Aides last night were instructed by the president to begin Drafting Remarks and they traded edits its back and forth according to my sources. And the president decided to go through with his public remarks this morning after seeing the imagery that came in overnight from ucla and hearing about the repeated need for Interval Pension from Law Enforcement and campus is like columbia university. Heres the president in his own words trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. None of this is a peaceful protest. Dissent is essential to democracy but dissent must never lead to disorder forced you to reconsider any of the policies are provided to the region . No notable that the president is not going to be pursuing a change in policy despite the low approval marks that he gets from voters across the board and across ages on his handling of the war he also said he would not be calling for the National Guard to intervene, something that many republicans have called for will. All right. Kayla tausche at the white house for us. Thank you. Just ahead. Well get back to our special coverage of Donald Trumps criminal trial today. A closer look at one of todays witnesses how he fits into the case needs get your windshield fixed, safe flight makes it easy. 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Listen wherever you get your podcasts keep testimony today in Donald Trumps Hush Money Trial wrapping up just a short while ago, the former lawyer for both Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal, google detailing deals in did keeping his clients silent about their alleged affairs with trump cnf tom foreman is born an attorney, Keith Davidson and his roster of Celebrity Clients with sensational cases to all the steamy testimony about Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal. You can now add sorted tales about fist full of other celebrities because theyve all come up in the Courtroom Questioning of lawyer Keith Davidson i get involved when a situation or an relationship has gone bad hes a Los Angelesbased attorney who admitted to cnn several years ago. Hes made a good living out of bad times. Ive a very active practice and when there are very few attorneys that would go against large corporations, powerful celebrities, and thats one thing that im known for. Do you have a nondisclosure agreement to lie . Both womens central to the hush money case collected payments with david says help, but hes been drilled in court over allegations of trying to help other clients with celebrities secrets, score big paydays, Tabloid Fodder like the release of a sex tape in 2012 involving Celebrity Wrestler hulk hogan and the wife of a friend leaked information about Actress Lindsay Low hands time and rehab in 2010, payments from Actor Charlie Sheen to several women and another there are sex tape linked to tv and internet star tele tequila. In each case, lawyers for team trump suggested davidson was prying or to use their word extorting money from celebrities facing allegations of scan. Donald trumps lawyers are trying to establish a couple of key things. One this guy, Keith Davidson, is a sleeves for lack of a better word, hes in a sleazy business that preys on people who are vulnerable. Davidson wall cagey about his clients readily said his firm has been heavily involved in media cases, but he flatly rejected the idea of anything unseemly in any case hey including this one, indeed all along he said, Stormy Daniels is just telling the truth i believe my client and Karen Mcdougal. Yes. Of course, from the beginning, this whole trial has been about some pretty unsavory topics. But with the arrival of this witness, it is even more so well interesting and tom form. And thank you very, very much. Lets get some insight right now from former federal prosecutor, robert ray. He served as counsel to them in that President Trump during his first impeachment. Thanks very much, robert for joining us. Jurors today, heard that 2018 recording where Michael Cohen and trump actually discussed the Karen Mcdougal Hush Money Payment and another recording were cohen said trump hated that they had to pay Stormy Daniels. How significant is that . I think the significance of the testimony today from Keith Davidson an effort was made through crossexamination by a meal beauvais, one of the president s lawyers to poke holes in the governments narrative and i think that was done you know, the the unsavory and seemly part of this aside its not exactly an uneven Playing Field here and again, putting aside the word extortion, the fact is, is that his clients have leverage to extract payments for the clients benefit, having very little the do one way or another with whether or not that might have some impact on an election. And i think thats the whole purpose of this crossexamination is to suggest that there are at least mixed motivations or other motivations involved here he gets paid this lawyer 40 fee based upon an economic comic recovery to the client thats his incentive. And he was using the election in some sense essentially to extract that payment, knowing that it wouldnt be made and there wasnt any interest in such a payment once the election was over, i think the jury will have to evaluate all of that in context to decide whether or not theres any intent and by President Trump, which is what the charge requires, that he did so for purposes of influencing the outcome of an election, it seems much more to do with Donald Trumps interest, which is in keeping this client quiet and Keith Davidsons clients interests in extracting a payment and return for silence, it may be a sorted and unseemly business, but it seems to have very little to do with which candidate wins, in which candidate loses an election. When it comes to davidson, Keith Davidson testimony. Do you think the defense was actually affected . So that undermining his credibility of even implying hes a Shakedown Artist well, i dont know about that so much. I think the Shakedown Part of it, again, just gets into what was his motivation, forget to put the unseemly sorted stuff aside. Wolf i think its more about the the client and the lawyers motivations were to extract a payment in exchange for silence. And again, the question is without knowing what former President Trumps intent is, what really does that speak to . And as far as his intent is concerned, obviously, the prosecution is going to move on. Event actually, to mike Michael Cohen. Well, theyll attempt to supply intent but the jury is going to have to make a judgment about whether or not you have to believe Michael Cohen in order to believe that that in fact was a Donald Trumps intent and whether or not Michael Cohens testimony, at least in that regard, has been corroborated sufficient that a jury could return a verdict of guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that that obviously is the big question that remains to be unanswered here during the testimony today, davidson pushed back on the idea that the payment to Stormy Daniels was, quote, hush money, he said and im quoting him now, i would never use that word. He said it was consideration in consideration, instead, those are his words. What did you make of that well, its a bargain, its a contract i mean, i understand that. Thats tried to take the sting out of the unseemly and unsavory aspect of all of this. But it is a contract. And unlike what most of the public might suspect, these are people who are not without leverage. They were fully capable of Exercising Leverage against donald trump in order to extract what they wanted, you can call that extortion. You can call it whatever you want. But they were not without recourse. And again, i think what the crossexamination was trying to explore is whether that really speaks an intent to influence an election. Another words, what Donald Trumps intent was are really more about what Stormy Daniels and Karen Mcdougal, were up to visavis through council in terms of what they wanted this to look like. Once the once the deal had been arrived at robert ray. Thank you very much for your expertise thanks. Well, thanks for having me and coming up, donald trump, but renewing controversial comments in us elections. What hes now saying about the potential for Political Violence. 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This is cnn as donald trump stamps trial is new remarks about the upcoming 2024 president ial election are raising red flags cnns Kristen Holmes has are report democrats, rig the president ial election in 2020. Former President Donald Trump doubling down on 2020 election claims at the heart of his candidacy and laying the groundwork to challenge the results this november, were not going to allow them to read big that president ial election. The most important day of our lives in 2024. Once again, refusing to commit to accept the results of the november election inbetween Campaign Events in Battleground Michigan and wisconsin, trump telling the milwaukee journal sentinel, quote, if everythings honest, i it gladly accept the results. If its not, you have to fight for the right of the country. The remarks coming on the heels of another interview earlier this week with Time Magazine. What trump did not rule out the possibility of Political Violence if you were to lose the 2024 election president joe bidens campaign condemning the remarks in a statement, quote, trump is a danger to the constitution and a threat to our democracy. The American People are going to give him another electoral defeat this november because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and its thirst for revenge. Its not the first time trump has hedged on questions about accepting the Election Results since leaving office if i think its an honest election, i would be honored to its rhetoric. He amplified in 2016 folks, this system is rigged. Its rigged, okay. And again, in 2021, before a mob attack, the us capitol on january 6, have, you dont fight like hell. Youre not going to have a country anymore. The issue comes as trumps plans for a second term come more into focus, represents trump speaking with Time Magazine about pardoning january 6, defendants mass deportations and firing Civil Servants to replace with loyalists. We will demolish the deep state. Trumps Current Campaign appearance terrence is few and far between. Hes currently mandated to appear in a courtroom for his new york hush money case four days a week i gotta do two of these things today. You know why . Because im in new york all the time. And wolf, as you know, donald trump was back in the courtroom today. Hell be back in the courtroom from offer that trial over the weekend. His day off, hes actually not going to be on the campaign trail. Instead, hell be intending the rncs spring retreat. Wolf. Kristen holmes reporting for us. Thank you. And well be right back. 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Wolff the protests here at gw are now entering their second week, still very robust and spirited here dozens of tents here up on the quad at gw. They remain here. There have been speeches, chants, and songs going on all day. And as i take you down to h street here at i can tell you that for the first time we saw an organized counterprotests of proisraeli protesters today, they were several blocks away. They did not confront these protesters. They had no plan to do that so that was the first kind of change of dynamic that we saw today with a counterprotest. But again, all of its been very peaceful also, what i can tell you is that on the street behind me, h street, which has been blocked off . For the first time today, we actually saw a row of Faculty Members blocking h street and they said that they were here to protect the propalestinian protesters. I asked the organizer of the faculty why protect one side and not necessarily the other. 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