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Thank you all so much for joining us. Well see you back here tomorrow for special coverage of trumps trial. 9 30 a. M. Eastern, right now seen a news night with abby phillip starts echoes of the vietnam era for this generations protest movement. Thats tonight on newsnight good evening. Im abby phillip in new york tonight, americas universities are losing control of their campuses suspensions, arrest, tear gas. Schools across the map are cracking down now on propalestinian protests but should they or by doing so, are they setting a precedent that undercuts a Fundamental American Tradition and an american right. Breaking tonight, cnn, with this dozens of arrests at the University Of Texas Austin Campus were officers are apparently using force to take people into custody students from inside and encampment. There are alleging that Police Deployed mace and other socalled chemical munitions. Now, take a look at where this is happening. Just over the last two weeks, columbia is the epicenter of this. And tonight, the school announced that theyre starting to suspend students who ignored a deadline to vacate that encampment it echoes decisions to crack down from the past from 1968 when columbia uprooted vietnam protests in in the 1980s when campuses were consumed by students who were arguing for divestment from south south africa to send a message that apartheid there must end now the tactics this time around in 2020 also dont approach those extremes of the past even if the attitudes do back in the 1960s and the 1970s, those protests devolved into riots. Students lock themselves inside buildings it ratchet it up until the tensions were ending in tragedy at kent state, for example. Now the tensions here are not that high yet, but universities are now preemptively choosing to crack down. And its in part to make sure that things dont escalate and partly also because of the truly vile antisymmetric things that are being said by some protesters zionist they dont deserve to live comfortably, let alone zionists dont deserve to live look if these movements want to be taken seriously, they cannot accept students and people who hold these opinions among their ranks but the schools that they are attending are already picking sides. They are deliberately going against the grain of American History that is about the First Amendment its about your right to Say Something that the decisionmakers disapprove of joining me now is no a phase. She is a jewish student at columbia. She believes that the university is not doing enough to protect jewish students, like her now, thank you for coming in tonight you told the times of israel that i cant walk around my own campus looking visible, visibly, jewish, without preparing myself for the possibility that someone might spit on me or attack me thats an incredible thing to say. What have you experienced . Have you experienced physical threats to your safety over the last few months . So my main experience frances with antisemitism occurred in the first semester because thats when i really was quite outspoken. I would say i was i ended up Speaking In Dc amongst other Media Opportunities and that resulted in a lot of backlash from my peers. Im an ra and in my dorm hall, my every single Bulletin Board of mine was ultimately vandalized with propalestine rhetoric. Stop supporting genocide, ceasefire now, all of all of these things that weve been seeing more than that my personal whiteboard was also vandalized and onside chat which im not on but my friends saw many, many instances of threats of further harassment. People were beanie on my door in the middle the anti somatic in my opinion, yes. Because a lot of it a lot of this rhetoric was claiming that i support genocide simply because i support the jewish, the jury the state of israel, and that i consider to be blood libel. Absolutely. You described yourself as black, native american, and jewish. Youve talked about how your feelings of feeling accepted on the campus changed after october 7. What does that been like . Its been really difficult. Again, i went through a lot of this Grief Process and primarily experiencing this issue in the first semester, thats when i learned that the community that i felt previously so accepted by a specifically because of my identities it all of this was actually conditional and the one condition is my jewish identity, which i assumed was also another reason why i was so uplifted because the jewish people are a significant minority. One of the things of your classmates well say is that they are protesting zionism, which is specifically this movement to create, to develop, to support a jewish state, isnt legitimate in your view, to protest zionism specifically, absolutely not. And there, there are many different ways you can look at this. But number one is that zionism makes the jewish people 80 of them are identified as zionist potentially more i would have to check this statistics, but i know it is at least 80 more than that though i cant explain the 20 that, but dont identify with that and i wont tried to. But we know that zionism, which is the jewish right to selfdeterminat ion and our historic homeland is inextricably linked to our religion. Do you think get synonymous effectively with being jewish . Absolutely, absolutely it is, but more than that though taking away the jewish aspect of it at least at columbia, we do not protest any form of any any persons right to selfdetermination. Theres no other movement and theres no other selfdetermination movement that is protested that ive seen definitely not at columbia. So for this to be the the only movement that is taken issue with amongst the students and that its jewish movement, it is inherently antisemetic when you see your Faculty Members, professors they today linked hands and arms and they blocked the entrance to the encampment when you saw that, what do you think . Think of their position . I am disgusted honestly, if only because again, the situation has gotten so out of hand that no matter how you look at it, if were even if were taking out the political element, the antisemetic element, even it is just absolute anarchy on campus. And to see that faculty are supporting this. And in a way that is at, in this instance today, they were barring students who in my opinion, you could consider them to be paying for these lawns, their barring students from enjoying the resources that we all have a right to that alone is just absolutely inexcusable to be seen from faculty, as im sure you know, there are jewish students who are a part of the propalestinian protests. Youve compared them to blacks for trump, Gaze For Trump. Absolutely. Its fair. Yeah, of course its fair. I mean, i say take them as seriously as we all take blacks for trump and Gaze For Trump and i think its absolutely a fair, a fair comparison. Its the same tokenization that were seeing. And in terms of our perception of them, thats absolutely how seriously we should take them. They dont represent our community and theyve been tokenized. I wonder what you think is the balance for the university to strike at this moment between i think you would support his idea that protests are legitimate form of Freedom Of Speech or just a little legitimate form of citizenship in this country. And what youre saying is a strain of antisemitism. What should columbia do right now . I think columbia needs to enforce their own codes of conduct, which we do have in place to deal with issues of harassment and discrimination and everything. No police on campus. Is that something that you think is the right step two, i think its the right step to take if were going to allow the police to do their job, which is to say protect the jewish students and frankly, get the students on the lawns off campus. So that first of all, i and my friends can enjoy the resources that we helped to fund, but also so that i as a senior can graduate alongside my alongside my peers. Well, you are graduating this spring. Thats the planner can be us theyre going to have Commencement Ceremony no, i know our faith. Thank you very much for joining us and even with all this turmoil, you are graduating, which should be a moment of celebration for you. So i hope you get to experience it the political impacts of these protests are undeniable, no matter where you stand on the issue Small Matters when activism merges with narcissism, less about the cause and more about me. Look at me, watch me, and if you like the way im fighting injustice remember to like and subscribe trying to meet now to discuss all of that, brian stelter, a Special Correspondent for vanity fair. Hes also the author of network of lies, also with s contributor leah wright, rigueur. Shizhen, Associate Professor of history at Johns Hopkins university, and the author of the loneliness of the black republican pragmatic politics and the pursuit of their howre also with us as cnn political commentator a reihan salam, he is the president of the Manhattan Institute and National Review contributor as well we need all three of you actually for this conversation leah, i want to start with you because both on the you heard what she said there are about what she calls the tokenism of jewish people in these propalestinian movements. But also the history of protests on these college campuses, which goes way back. What did you think of what she had to say . So i think that the idea of this being the equivalent of jewish support for the propalestinian for the propalestinian cause being akin to blacks for trump is actually something that doesnt hold up under scrutiny. One, because the number of protestors, i think that are directly involved in these kind of protest by far exceeds the actual number of black support for donald trump, even as we see that support rising in the polls. What i do think that shes onto in this is this argument about columbia university, not protecting students and mass in terms of how they are handling this environment. There are multiple groups of students that dont feel safe. This includes jewish students, but it also includes do students who are protesters and includes people who are part of these encampments. And students who have the right, who have a constitutional right to express how they feel to assemble and to be in these spaces colleges are supposed to be bastion of expression, of freedom. This is what the aclu, this is what fire theyre all talking about when they were looking at columbia and saying absolutely the wrong response to crack down and have police wrap up these spaces. So yes, were seeing a lot of that. But i think its also true that were seeing what is that the root of this is how the university has absolutely mishandled disagreement on its campus. Where do you think has been . Re just played that bill maher clip where he he makes the point its not this is an oversimplification. Its not what theyre protesting, but the idea that this has become performative. How do you think that the protests at this point are being received by the vast majority of the country that is not on these college campuses. Thats not at the heart of this turmoil. I think it seems awfully noxious. I think it seems like a group of young people who are entitled and behaving in ways that are incredibly dangerous. So i respectfully disagree with leah a bid and that i do think that some universities are getting this roughly right. The university of chicago, for example, a saying that were all for Freedom Of Expression in an orderly way that allows people to learn when you look at the columbia campus, when you look at the ucla campus and number of other campuses where you have is really violence Intimidation Harassment that has become really systematic and really quite terrifying. And if youre someone whos at home and youre watching this unfold, then i think that youre thinking a lot about are supposedly elite institutions, institutions that are meant to lead our society, that are meant to be exemplars of knowledge and truth seeking, instead, descending into this chaos because you have university leaderships that do not have backbone that have not actually demonstrated real viewpoint neutrality. You have Faculty Members at columbia who are cheering on students were again, just harassing, intimidating, threatening other students. I do want to i mean, what what is happening at columbia me, we have a little bit more visibility there, but there is a sense in which now, and i think this is part of the point we were trying to illustrate is that there are a lot of protesters who are doing none of those things that you just described. Thats right. And theres still being dragged off the campus and put put in handcuffs. So both things are happening at the same time. This is happening across the country and were not hearing about all these other campuses where this is happening at the same time. I think its right to criticize university leadership, but i think we should try to remain as free of judgment of the students as we can because many of us were students along time ago students, its a time for education. Education can be learned and a very hard way. Some of these students are getting a very hard but very real education i dont think these people mostly are seeking global media attention. Some definitely are, by the way, some definitely are. And there have been some hateful slogans chanted, but there are a lot of students now caught up in this who are not seeking that attention, who are just with their classmates. And by the way, bill maher is right when he says that theres some narcissism that comes with activism but i think as a country, were better off with more protests, not less, as long as the Safety Concerns or knowledge that i just really think that the institutions that are getting this right are institutions that have articulated clear principles about what free speech looks like. And there are even handed in the application of those principles. And what we see i think are many institutions columbia very much included where theyre basically tolerating lawlessness. Theyre imposing suppose deadlines and then letting people brush right through those deadlines. This is bad for the students. If the students get some clarity, if they get some real guardrails that would actually be much better for them. But instead theyre not allergic kinase brilliant chicago said, you know what an encampment is, a form of force. Its a show of force but that was interesting framing. But i actually think there are some schools that are actually doing this right . Michigan state for example, came out president of Michigan State says, you know what . This according to our rules, these encampments are illegal. However, if we shift the boundaries and we allow students to protest and we say, hey, all you have to do is get a permit that changes it and part of i think what part of the thing that we have to recognize is that the universities that are doing the best job on this are the students or the universities were president s and administrators are actually engaging the students. Theres absolutely no reason why the United States of america, when we are coming up on the anniversary of the Kent State Shootings that there should be policed on college campuses, like on emory that are tackling professors and arresting them simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, ut austin will just cause more people to protest, violently grabbing these students, yanking them to the ground. It actually increases, it actually increases opposition and the number of protests when you meet this protests, we dont know what they knew. We do not know what those Law Enforcement officials knew about. We do not know. About the threats that they were made aware of. So i would just urge us to be a bit cautious before judging them too harsh, right, guys, im going to have you stand by for us. We have a lot more to discuss. I just ahead. Does the absence makes the Heart Grow Fonder . What is behind the Trump Nostalgia Inside . Then alarming new poll for President Biden. 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Evans decided that she would eventually speak out publicly after the two initially denied the affair. Hello. To evans joins me now. Thank you so much for being here i know that youve talked to stormy in recent marlins, maybe not in the last few days, but how do you think that shes mentally preparing for her appearance . At this trial thank you for having me. Id be stormy is an incredible woman. She has been steadfast through this entire process shes been very solid, so honestly, i would imagine that shes ready for this. We have all been waiting for some sort of justice to come out of this situation. So i would imagine that shes ready for it to go through so stormy has been very vocal about how this whole saga has upended her life in horrible ways. Kind of witness. Do you think she will ultimately be on The Stand Stormy has been incredibly honest since day one. As soon as she was allowed to be once they dealt with the nda issues, i think that stormy is going to be a strong witness at this point. I dont think anyone is denying the idea of what happened when we were in tahoe. I dont think that people still believe that theres no truth so i think thats stormy has a lot of support with her time on the stand i guess i have to say donald trump does still deny that this happens. So hes denying it. His attorneys will also be crossexamining her when shes on the stand calling into question her credibility, reminding people that initially she he denied this as well. What do you think will be going through her mind when shes in that room, shes in a courtroom, facetoface with donald trump, really, for the First Time Since then thats a fair i think whats going to be going through stormy his mind is this is the moment that she has to look him dead in the face. And call it out for what it is. And finally, be able to put her voice to the truth in a way that weve all been waiting for. I realized that trump has continued to deny this, but so did Michael Cohen for a long time Michael Cohen called all of us liars and we see exactly where Michael Cohen is now standing on the side of stormy supporting his role in this. So i think theres a lot of clears at hand, and i think that justice will prevail would you have any advice for her i think my advice for stormy would just be to stay strong. Take a deep breath and tell your truth you know star stormy, very well. You know the story inside anatomy, you were a part of it but youve also said that this case ultimately wont hurt donald trump, but are you talking about politically in other ways and why, why do you think so i in my mind, donald trump has fans his supporters are fanatical they dont care these made it very clear. It doesnt matter what he says or what he does theyre going to stand by him. Theyre going to support him and i think that the concern is theyll just continue to excuse this as lies. Theyll continue to accept him for who he is presented himself. And its not going to change change their mind. And thats something everyone really should be concerned about i heard you use the word justice earlier in one of your answers i wonder you yourself, an adult film actress. Youre caught up in a situation with Stormy Daniels, a friend of yours, and a man who is now the fourth former president of the United States. What does it feel like to you to be characterized in that way to the entire country . Tree. While donald trump is running for president. And according to some of the polls is tied or maybe even winning since. All of this came out back in 2016, its been a very strange experience simply because for us it was something that happened. It was a story that happened with a man who was lifestyles of the rich and famous. He was from television and he wasnt someone you would ever think would become president. And moving forward to when he was inaugurated . And when he took those steps, as this news was coming out and being labeled a liar, being told that what i had to say didnt matter, and that it wasnt true. It was hard, it was scary i stayed out of the limelight other than talking to cnn or the news. So moving forward to now, i use the word justice because i am happy to see that with everything that storming has been put through all of the times that we have been accused of being a liar. It brings so much happiness to me to see that now the truth is all going to be put for every everyone to see through this trial. And so im pleased that were finally here. Lana evans. Thank you very much for joining us. Appreciate your time. Thank you voters are now seeing donald trump in a manhattan courthouse hallway. Almost every day. What do they still miss him . The nostalgia. Some are feeling. 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Its 100 drugfree and clinically tested harris longer, thicker. Nature pride that everyday million say, i use fonda Laura Coates Live tonight at 11 eastern on cnn the republican candidate for president owes half 1 billion in fines for bank fraud and is currently spending his days farting himself awake during a porn star hush us money trial. And the race is tied the race is tied nothing makes sense anymore well, technically its not even tied, at least according to cnn polls, donald trump is leading the president ial race in general election polls. And on the question of their preferences for the presidency is 55 of americans now say trump was a success compared to 39 for biden. So whats going on here . I mean, its a trump nostalgia. My panel is back with me. I mean, there is a little bit of maybe not nostalgia, but theres amnesia that could be at play here. I call it trauma. I think theres shortterm memory loss as a result of trauma but i didnt get to talk to trump and biden insiders over the weekend. I think biden has a stronger hand for the following reason. The democrats have almost endless amounts of money to deploy to remind people about trumps years. To remind people about the unpleasant memories, to make the amnesia go away, the amount of fundraising theyre doing, the amount of money theyre raising, their gonna be able to deploy that money. Theyve barely started yet. So i think this is real right now, but i dont think itll be real in the fall. I dont think that shortterm memory loss will last. I mean, the reality is, is that polar, so interesting to me because americans did not feel that way when trump was actually president they, they did not. But also we have to remember that there were Something Like 50 to 100,000 people dying. What in a de in a week we were in the midst of covid. We were in the thick of things. We were also in the middle of one of the largest mass protests that the country has ever seen. The movement for black lives, which had transformed itself into a Voter Registration act. People were very unhappy with trump and now theyve had for years to forget about it. And one of the things that we dont really didnt happen with biden instead, right. And to get them in and biden has a lot on his plate as well. Now that he has to be accountable for. But one of the things that we have to remember about this country is that we have very short memories when it comes to president s. It is very, we can actually look at the data and we can see that when president s lose leave office, almost immediately, their popularity goes through the roof. Best example of this is George W Bush hugely, hugely unpopular figure within two years outside of office, people are starting to look at them and say, wow, i really miss George W Bush really one of the greatest economic recessions of that moment the downturn of 2008, who youre missing him. And part of it is about the experience of being in it. And then being removed from it. I want to play a little bit more from saturday. This was the white house correspondents in it, but this is President Biden, this is his message to the room that night the tree fresh play a Critical Role in making sure that america people have the information they need to make an informed decision im sincerely not asking you to take sides, but asked you to rise up to the seriousness of the moment move past the horse race. Numbers the gotcha, moments in the distractions, the shows that come to dominate its essentialize are sensationalize our politics in focus because now whats actually at stake, i think in your hearts, you know what it was estate the stakes couldnt be higher so look hes not wrong about the real what it seems to be threat to democracy than trump himself kinda puts on the table but what did you make that comment . Well, look, i think American Politics is thermostatically. When donald trump was president , there was a reaction against his rhetoric on immigration issues. For example, in a great many other things, democrats suddenly became way more supportive of nato when donald trump was in office but now with biden an office when you see is very straightforward, he was above water in the polls until the withdrawal from afghanistan. Ever since then, hes been below water. He has been net negative since then. And thats continued to be true. Now, it is absolutely true that President Biden and his allies are raising prodigious in n14 from as sums of money. The challenges that theres when youre looking at cultural luminaries, he has an overwhelming amount of support, whether he knows it or not. He certainly has a supportive Prestige Media as well. But despite that, i think that one big issue is that postcovid . You have the American Relief plan, which sparked a massive surge in inflation. It seemed that that was a biting to some degree. But then the most recent Inflation Print we have shows that actually there was yet another uptick in that there are a lot of people who feel as though gosh, i did not buy a home before 2020 now, i am locked out of homeownership. If you look at Younger Voters, particular including Younger Voters of color, these are the folks who are treating, these are the folks who are leaving biden behind and ive losing faith in them. So all sorts of ads are gonna be out there. Theres gonna be a deluge, but that is a fundamental problem for the president. Is it as biden suggested . Lesson in that club, the medias fault that this race is tied its complicated, right . Because people, i look at that poll and i think people are remembering that the price of a coffee was cheaper, four or five years ago, right . There remembering the impact of the price of coffee has gotten the price of everything theres their understanding people look back and say, those were easier years on my wallet i look at this though, and i think to myself who was waking up today and becoming a maga loyalist, who is waking up today and deciding, im gonna go to my first trump rally the people who go to trump rallies have been going for almost a decade now. Hes not developing new supporters, new followers maybe some people would still vote for him in november, but hes not creating new support. So is this partly the medias fault . It is absolutely partly the medias fault that donald trump gets a pass on most of the lies and crazy claims that he makes. I mean, is getting disappointed. I mean, you think hes gaining momentum i mean, he might again, a small portion new supporters, but part of what were not talking about is what is it that is driving people away from joe biden and its its not simply a matter of they are flipping over to trump and saying, hey, im joining the trump train, but also that 8 number, would that number we also dont measure the number of people who are saying, you know what im just not going to show what thats level is unsure. Theyre not giving works for biden because biden, he does exceptionally well with voters who turned out for every single special election primary, you name it, race for dog catcher. Its trump who does well with a lower propensity voters. And now you have this very unusual uncomfortable situation for folks in the progressive sayyed, which is that theyre depending on a low turnout election. Well, look that 8 is if youre smart political operative, and opportunity, is it not . Well for, for donald trump, but necessary dont think for just a look because joe biden, when youre looking at those lower propensity voters, thats exactly where hes weakest. And i think that thats going to be a tricky issue for them and its a big adjustment because a lot of folks on the left, if thought, hey, those are the voters we need to get out. We need to register folks. You literally have the washington post, a progressive nonprofit data analysts saying, guys, we cant just register voters blindly because guess what . You register those voters. And a lot of them are going to be trump voters fascinating guys. Thank you very much. Brian lee i, rihanna. Thank you very much. And up next for us. 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Biden is now hired to handle this Fox Case Defamation when it comes to a News Organization is typically really difficult in our court system. And for good reason, why do you think this one will be successful . So this is not your typical defamation case. This is actually if you read the letter carefully, its more of a conspiracy to defame and paint in a false light and why thats significant is when its a conspiracy case that actually eliminates a lot of the classic defenses. Something like a Media Organization would have against defamation claims so thats what definitely sets this apart from other cases. And this is obviously so much more than just a conspiracy to defame as you just mentioned, theres the Fictionalized Docuseries That Fox Nation has created and produced just for entertainment value. Theres absolutely no newsworthy airbus to this. I wondered about that though. I mean, if it is fictionalize, we all agree. You agree . They agree. And they have all the disclaimer saying this is not real, this is essentially made up because some of the things are literally made up isnt it . Just art . I put that in quotes, but essentially, no, because you have pure fact, which would be protected. And you also have pure fiction that might be protected. But this is very bizarre kind of marriage of the two. So its basically blending in fact and fiction in a way that doesnt allow viewers to decipher what really is fact and whats fiction. So if you watch the docuseries, you see some real life characters from this. Whether you want to call it the laptop saga. But these events that are actually occurring and they play themselves, they act as themselves, as winning this is in the docuseries. So even though theres a disclaimer at the outset, you then see these real individuals portraying themselves. You see actual images of both hunter biden, the president , and other individuals that are involved with them. You see actual emails and so they present a lot of factual information, but they distorted and they dont give the appropriate context. And then they have fiction, Fictionalized Dialogue surrounding it. So for an average viewer, its really impossible to know what is fact and whats fiction. And that is very harmful because then the portrayal is perceived to be true, even though its not whats it a mistake. And does it hurt your case . That a Hunter Bidens attorneys not your firm, but the other attorneys involved in this case claimed that this was the product that laptop and the information on it was a product of russian disinformation. They suggested that it was fake. Well this doesnt actually say anything to contradict that. I mean, im not going to comment it, purports that these images are real, that the information that comes from the laptop that is in these fox reports our real no, im so these are referred to as hacked, stolen, and and or digitally manipulated material. So certainly nobody could dispute that when you, when you see these images, it depicts hunter biden. Now, the source of that, again, that has no bearing on the fact that fox nation is improperly using that to commercially exploit hunter both for monetary gain just from the series, but also to humiliate him and malicious maliciously injure him by using images which they know are not with his consent, just to be clear, i dont want to belabor this, but for clarity sake, the position is still that some of these images are information from that laptop is digitally manipulated. Nothing in our letter takes, yes the position that we have taken, which is that these images clearly depict hunter biden and theyre explicit images. And these are exactly the type of images just that the state, i mean, almost every state at this point has what has been labeled as Revenge Porn Laws and New York State enacted these in 2019. Theres both a criminal component as ana civil component, and it protects exactly this images depicting an individual that are intimate, sexually explicit without that persons consent. And thats exactly what this is. So who are the worst offenders in your view at fox, who are responsible for those. So there was obviously Loved Harnesses Congressional Testimony Last Month and which was really explosive. We thought. And he detailed this vlt team, which included media personalities. And it was in concert with giuliani and others to basically spread this false narrative, knowing that it was false and they would have these meetings. The reason its titled as the vlt team as they were having these meetings at the vlt steak house at trumps hotel in dc at the time these were stranded Strategy Meetings that they were having their to see how they could spread this information. And one person from he said this involved a lot of fox news personalities, but he named sean hannity so thats one person that mr. Parnas implicated last month, which was interesting, but part of what this letter really does is its a preservation demands so that they fox doesnt destroy any of the critical internal communications, emails, Text Messages as we saw in dominion, thats critical to seeing their State Of Mind and that they knew what they were doing was wrong and they did it anyway, theres a Retraction Demand but if that is matt are you still leaving open the door that there could be a suit here, absolute damages. Sure. The letter again includes various different claims. So part of it is the Retraction Demand. Theres the debunked bribery allegations that the indicted smirnoff was peddling and now those been proven to be false. So thats one component of it. We want them to correct the record as to that. We want them to take down the mock trial of hunter bite of trial of hunter biden from all streaming platforms. And of course, were seeking monetary damages. All right tina glove go, diane. Thank you very much for joining me tonight. And up next for us, donald trump and rfk jr. Theyre friendly relationship is now turning sour. Well look at how it went wrong for all of them. Next Laura Coates Live next on cnn looks like Allergy Season it back im to start saving on your prescriptions another good reason to check, good rx victims of mesothelioma and their families may be entitled to receive a casual board from the estimated 30 billion in his best, those trust funds now available over 50 billion has been awarded already. 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It went from gold medal winning icon to a pariah what really happened with jesse l. Martin, sundays at nine on cnn. Close captioning brought to you by rule or law, iconic brands up to 70 off retail at roulette law. Com, at rubella you never faithful sees the deals on top before there current job today. Tonight, the 2024 Election Feud that youre suddenly reading a lot about. Its donald trump versus robert f. Kennedy jr. Now consult the google and you will get a slew of headlines sketching out the bad blood between the former president the Conspiracy Monger With A Famous Last Name the new york times. Trump turns on rfk jr. Politico. Trump rails against rfk jr. The hill trump rfk jr. Feud heats up salon. Rfk is now openly gunning for trump voters so what happened here at one point, they were mutual admirers. It was in their selfinterest, of course. And now, well, you can really measure the tone shift in trumps words so lets go back to the start or close to it. Last summer, june 2023, and former President Trump basically admitted that he had a political crash i will say rfk jr. Who ive known, not very well, but ive known for a while and i respect him a lot of people respect him hes got some some very important points to be made. Now hes a respected person trump p quoted kennedy on his truth social, with a glowing review of his Debate Skills that included one of trumps favorites, a lincoln comparison trump was also so intrigued that he reportedly whispered with his advisors about bestowing rfk jr. With a Vice President ial nomination . Now, rfk says trumps emissaries actually reached out about a phone call on that topic. Trump now denies it. But even before the he said he said backandforth, you could hear the signs of breakage. Listen did they say he hurts biden i take im not sure that thats true at any probably hurts both but it might hurt biden a little bit more. You dont know then there was this it was clear that trump was struggling to sort through his feelings just this month rfk jr. Is, as you know, the most radical left candidate in the race is more so than the green party. Hes more so than even cricket joe biden but hes got some nice things about him. I happen to like him thats quite the vibe shift. Trump torched kennedy on truth, social labeling him a democrat he put their that to help the current president when another four years in office and rfk he didnt try to spare trumps feelings when he wrote this calling, trump frightened, unhinged, barely coherent so why now, why have these two suddenly gone from potentially celebrity political couple to play enemies at this point well, the polls like this give us a clue. Quinnipiac last week, it says trump and biden are now tied. And rfk jr. Is lurking right there at 17 in trumps words, he suggests that he thinks a lot of that 17 is actually stealing from his vote share. Now again, the truth social post spells it all out. A vote for junior would essentially be a wasted protest. Vote trump rights that could swing either way, but would only swing against the democrats if republicans knew the trues story about him. Him being rfk jr. Now, if you think the problem will just go away, trump may evolve again, kennedy is proving there are new reasons why it wont. He Just Announced tonight that his name will appear on the ballot in the state of california as of today thank you for watching news night tonight. Laura coates live starts right now. Cnns breaking news we