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We are watching a tense and escalating situation unfolding at Columbia University. Just minutes after School Officials those announced negotiations with propalestinian protesters had failed. The school is now warning those protesters that by 2 00 p. M. Today, they must clear out of their encampment and disperse or face suspension. And at the same time, a propalestinian Student Group which has now been suspended by the School Administration is calling on students to reject the ultimate hey, them and show up at the encampment. Cnns live from College Campuses all across the country today i want to start with Cnns Omar Jimenez at Columbia University. So omar we have this deadly fine at 2 00 p. M. Where less than an hour from that, do you have any sense of what may happen yeah. So were getting some reports from inside campus, right now from what the students are doing in reaction to this deadline thats now coming in an hour they took a vote essentially at the encampment on whether they would define it disorder and it does appear that many of them voted to actually stay and defy that 2 00 p. M. Order. Obviously, the university has said, if they do that and dont sign on to university policies, they will face suspension and they will be ineligible to finish the semester on good standing. So of course those are the stakes here. Now, that said obviously with this 2 00 p. M. Deadline and the news of it, it is prompted some outside protesters outside agitators because your Police Department has described them at points to at the very least, be aware of the situation, even schedule some protests outside of the campus, maybe he part of why weve actually seen a good, a large Law Enforcement presence that just got to outside of Columbia University within the last few minutes or so. So those are all facts doctors were continuing to watch. But of course, all of this is coming hours after the University President Minouche Shafik announced this morning that negotiations between the Student Protesters and the university had failed to come to a resolution after after days, really since last week of good faith negotiations as university describe them, that means that the university will not divest from israel, which of course is one of the central points of why this encampment began in the firstplace, almost two weeks ago to this point. Now, moving forward, were almost two weeks more, a little more than two weeks to graduation. And the university has said, they will have commencement here. Now, how they deal with the encampment are resolved. The encampment as they describe, we will have to see, but clearly they intend and to have that commencement a little over two weeks time all right. I know mar standby for us because well be back to you within the hour. Is this deadline approaches here . Lets go to gabe cohen gave me youre there at George Washington university here in washington, where some Student Protesters actually toppled Police Barricades as the encampment there was expanded. What are you seeing . Yeah. Briana now, day five of this camp here at gw and things have calmed a little bit since that tense scene early this morning that you referenced where protesters are ripped apart and piled up. All of these barricades that had been around this a small section of the camp by which im near which im standing. There were about 20 protesters who were left tier. But as we spin around, you can see how many more of these tens have popped up in the hours since all over the yard, dozens of them, as well as several in The Public Street on The Public Street behind me up till this point there really has been no indication, no effort from dc police to forcefully remove the tense or the protesters. And i want to actually bring in one of those protesters now, motaz. Thank you so much for joining us. You are a grad student here at gw. Youve been here since the beginning. The school has said you and the other gw students who were here are facing suspension, potentially arrest, eventually and yet youre still here why are you still part of this protest were here first and foremost to be in solidarity with to remind the world of whats going on. And because theres still a genocide that theres still bombing, even at this very moment. And so but thats why were here. Were steadfast. Just because whats going on there is absolutely horrible and we want to be here and support of them and weve heard from protesters who are part of theyre saying that theyre calling for gw to divest from corporations with any ties to the Israeli Government or the israeli military. Has there been any conversation with the school . Any indication that you are even remotely close to having the school meet those demands sadly, there has not been any sort of discussion or indication that theyre willing to come to the table and talk to us about our demands in fact, they have been theyve tried to crack down on us i mean, they set up the barricade. We are barricaded in for the first four days they increase the Police Presence and we know that there have been at least two requests for the mpd to come in, an arrest us, and the mpd itself actually declined those requests. So its been a negative response so far. All right. Motels. Thank you so much for joining us. And as i said at this point, there has really been no indication that police are going to do anything today. Ive spoken with sources who told me that the Police Department the city, doesnt want the optics of arresting protesters forcibly removing these tense but of course things have escalated now with this scene overnight, the question, briana, alexs will mpd will the Police Change their posture at all as of this morning, a source telling me the escalation last night, not enough to have them change anything and arrest or forcefully removed these protesters. But well see what the day brings. All right. Gabe cohen at George Washington right here in the nations capital. Thanks very much. Lets get straight to cnns nick valencia, who is at the Emory University in atlanta, where faculty is pushing a vote of no confidence in the schools president in that comes after more than a dozen protesters were arrested, there last week. Nick, weve seen a fair bit of violence there on canvas and i understand that theres a new statement from emorys president. Was it say theyre there is a new statement here for memories, president , theyre talking about the unprecedented situation that happened ive been here on thursday sort of trying to read control the narrative. Initially, they had said that that protests had nothing to do with the university. Of course, that was not accurate. 28 people arrested, 20 of them had ties to the university either professors, students, faculty, some sort of connection. The action continues here at Emory University. Behind me, this is the leftover crowd from a walkout of faculty that happened at 12 00 p. M. Its ahead of another two 30 plan at demonstration, but i talked about that followed after the action on thursday at the violent arrests of 28 people one of them that was detained was a professor here, the chair of philosophy, noelle mcafee, and i caught up with her a short time ago and i asked her about the concern that jewish students have here. Some of suppressed of the hostility has just been to unsafe for them to return to campus. I asked her if the demonstrations that are going on here at emory are at their core antisymmetric do you feel that the core, any of this has to do with antisemitism or whats your reaction to those feelings from those jewish students . Im really sorry but i understand when people feel like that i feel attacked. We live in a culture that doesnt allow space for grieving and morning and nuance and so its easy to read political position as a personal attack, i think thats a lot of clarity among people who were working On The Issues of whats happening in gaza, that its not antisemitic theres some huge distinction between what our leaders do and whats going on. The people did administrators job is to make the trains run on time and they overstep when they think they need to clear aquatic in order to run a commencement ceremony. That is just so wrong we need to the First Priority should be places for students and Morning Spaces for dialogue across differences and thatll help both sides noelle mcafee, one of the protesters are detained one of the professors, i should say here at the university, and were also hearing from University Officials that they are in negotiations with Defense Attorneys of those arrested on thursday to potentially dropped all charges against those who were arrested. Meanwhile, back on campus here, theres still large crowds. It is though respectful and peaceful. For now. Alex all right. Uh, nick valencia. Thank you so much for that report. And to all of our reporters at these universities across the country here, lets talk a little bit more about hello, this now with their cnn Senior National security analysts, juliette kayyem, shes the former Assistant Secretary for the department of homeland security. And juliet obviously, each situation is different. Each university is different. The cities that theyre in, they are different but when it comes to state and local police being called in under what circumstances should College Administration administrators engage or not engage outside line . All enforcement as their balancing free speech with Campus Safety and operations thats exactly right. That is the balance and it is not one size fits all so basically, i think i think were at a pivot point of these colleges and universities beginning to learn because remember what started this was just peacefulness and then all of a sudden the Police Department is arresting students who are essentially just protesting. Theres, you know, they werent they werent, you know Lighting Things on fire. They were just protesting. I think what youve seen colleges and universities learn over the course of the week is that protest is a natural part of college and university experience. Grants that in most instances, although there are outliers, the students are not going to be disruptive to schools or to graduation. So you want to keep the temperature down if youre a university or college leader, you bring the cops in and you know, we know exactly whats going to happen. The numbers increase. People who may not even feel allegiance to the palestinian cause. We come involved. And then the third thing that ive been urging on air and elsewhere is, you provide a forum for students is protest is allowable you give them off ramps, so youre starting to see colleges and universities do that either dialogue or as we heard that professor say, another towards you bring people together and then outcomes and then eventually there will have to be some action, whether its Law Enforcement or not, we dont know it could be suspension. Were in a funny period. I met a university not right now, but i teach there. Its sorted that dead time between classes and graduation theres no need to make a decision and most of these instances until youre closer to graduation, if this might disrupt the building of capacity to have the graduation juliet, you mentioned the temperature that is probably about to go up at least as far as Columbia University it goes, were about 45 minutes away from this 2 00 p. M. Deadline. A lot of students have indicated that they plan to defy this request from the administrators, to voluntarily disburse what are you hoping to see from police and other security . Before yeah. In any case, i mean, i just i dont think that Law Enforcement is appropriate as a first stance, we saw a lot of people with a lot of energy, people outside of the safety and security realm, you making recommendations that you just throw the cops and we see what happens in that regard. And also we do have a First Amendment rights. We do have protests rights, and these are, you know, theyre not children, but on the other hand, its that kind of energy you i think reflects the 20 somethings. So that, that since thats the case the kind of consequences that colleges and universities can do short of arrest is essentially those its related to their academic status and that is going to hurt them. I have no problem with that. If we get to that moment you cannot disrupt graduations, i think for example, usc overreacted. I think it was this was usc canceled its main graduation. You have to let jewish and other students feel protected and safe, but im not sure canceling and entire graduation is good for either side because people become more divided. So if i sound com, it isnt that i m is just that part of this is just buying time before you see some of the disruptions that might be or Police Actions that might be the limited number of colleges and universities, but no one should go first in in the way that we saw originally last week with Law Enforcement well it is a very tense de campuses all across the country. We know that youll be watching carefully and well have you back very soon, julie, thank you very much. There are new developments in the israelhamas war right now, the us Secretary Of State Antony Blinken, he is in saudi arabia meeting with key Middle Eastern leaders as well as the de facto ruler of saudi arabia, crown Prince Mohammed bin so im on, this comes as hamas considers a new deal that calls for the release of hostages in exchange for a ceasefire in gaza. Now blinken is saying that israel has presented hamas with a proposal that is extraordinarily generous and he is urging its leaders to accept it. Lets go live now to saudi arabia and Cnn International anchor Becky Anderson and becky, you have reported for months on the outline of what the second ceasefire would a pause in the fighting could look like. Do you have any sense that the hi there actually closer to a deal today i think were as close as weve been in march this has been months of deadlock, but at this stage, it does feel as if we are getting close to an agreement from both sides which would be a major step towards ending this conflict let me just go through what we know to be being discussed at present. Hamas officials with Qatar Mediators and egyptian mediators in cairo, as we speak, considered bring what is effectively an egyptian proposal which has been crafted with the help of these rayleighs, but not necessarily completely agreed to. But it calls for the following phase one, a period of weeks. Were not 2303 hostages would be released least for a period of calm during a period of calm period of weeks. In exchange for palestinian prisoners. Thats less hostages and the israelis had originally been demanding that was up to 40 this is up to 33, as we understand it. Phase two should that be successful . Those first period of weeks. Phase two is what is important here. And this is different Phase 2b Calls for the Restoration Of, quote, a sustainable com. Now i spoke to one diplomatic source, familiar with the tulips who said that is language which was first proposed by the United States in doha back in february, which wasnt at the time accepted by the israelis, which effectively suggests a permanent ceasefire without, without actually calling it that this is a Restoration Of sustainable calm for a period of around about a year during which the rest of the civilian hostages serving Israeli Soldiers and the bodies of dead hostages would be released. That would be a major step. Four because this would be a long period of permanent calm now thats whats on the table, and that is whats being discussed at present thanking both qatar and egypt for their efforts in all of this. Antony blinken, who was here of what is the special meeting of the World Economic forum in riyadh, sen. An awful lot of diplomatic flurry on them sidelines of this described the deal in the following way hamas has before to proposal that is extraordinarily extraordinarily generous. On the part of israel and in this moment, the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a ceasefire is hamas they have to decide and they have to decide quickly so were, were looking to that and im hopeful that they will make the right decision reason he says they have to decide quickly is this hanging over these negotiations . Is the threat of an Israeli Offensive on rafah. And weve been reporting for weeks just how catastrophic that would be for the more than Million People poole who are down in rafah, right up against the border of egypt. Antony blinken did say that without any reiterated today the without a Concrete Plan from the israelis, about how they would protect civilians, that offensive would not get the blessing of washington in and he said that to date washington has not seen a plan tony blinken is here wanting to talk two regional stakeholders saudi in the first instance. And others around this region about what happens the day after, what happens after this conflict . Finishes what is the next stage for gaza and the palestinians, the saudis have said that there is the option of normalization of relations with israel both the caveat here is they have to see a two solution on the table for the palestinians. And that it has to be an irreversible path. Now, tony blinken is on his way from here to amman, and then on tel aviv. And he must be hoping that if the israeli turned now put these negotiations tomorrow because they see fit to do that, that there is a deal on a deal quickly all right. 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Thank you to both of you for being with us. Michael, to you as we are now about to head into this second week of Witness Testimony Frame It for us. What we saw last week, the biggest takeaway from what weve seen so far yeah. Well, im glad to be with all of you. This week will be much more of the same and that is what the prosecution will continue to sort of built on the foundation of the case. I mean, what we saw were some wins for both sides, frankly, last week, you had some good testimony from pecker from the state at the same time, you had some good information that came in for the trump team and that is information like, well, you know, Michael Cohen was doing this. This is the normal way of doing business. Theres nothing unique here in setting this type of story. Purchase up. Weve done it for other politicians and other celebrities. And so thats good information to get in front of the jury. But you know, this is a paper case. Its follow the money case. Those could be boring cases for a jury and so the prosecutions goal needs to be as they go through these this multiweek trial is to really figure out a way to keep that hook in the mouth of those jurors so that they can stay engaged and stay if you dont do that by having a banker up for a long time. So i think youll see the banker finished his testimony talking about how the corporations were set up, how the payments were made, the efforts that went into that, the direction he got about that. And then, you know, your life to see some what i would say would be more exciting witness, whether thats Michael Cohen that somebody closer into the trump camp like hope hicks, theyre going to have to manage that or else its like having your accountant, nothing nothing regard for cannabis, but having your accountant standing in front of you for two weeks explained in a tax code that does not keep an average panel of jurors engaged for long so thats going to be the balance i have to walk Going Forward then david, outside of the courtroom, the way that this is being perceived, we have a new poll that was released last weekend and found that only 13 of those who were polled think that trump is being treated the same way that other criminal defendants will be. So why do you think that so Many Americans . These are seeing these proceedings as unfair and do you agree yes. So i think theres certain extent the former president s making the case about Michael Cohen is on your phone every night on some social media app for six or eight hours, taking an ax to donald trump and donald trump cant tweet back at them right . Hes going to violate his order here. Its court ordered. So i think thats setting up a little bit of the disparate treatment perhaps two people are saying theyre saying, wait, Michael Cohen could do this. But yet donald trump cat. Now, i know theres lots of legal reasons for that, but the Average American do they see that now, they see that as unfair and they see this look quite frankly, theres an extension of lawfare is michael said, this is a paper case. This is a case thats a federal case. There was passed on by the Department Of Justice and the previous yes. District attorney took a pass on it and its been strapped to a state case. Itd be in bootstrapped up and its a eight week long case and we for this first started everybody on every network said, boy, this alvin bragg case, a stinger here, right . And so i think the people in people who are watching that, to the extent of people are, i think they see that is a little bit unfair to the former president. I got an email from a friend of mine who said, look, i am, he left the trump team a time ago. He said, im watching this case im back on the team unbelievably right there. He Winning People over because they feel like hes getting fair, unfairly treated. I wonder just whether fair or unfair if you think the judge can even keep up with donald trump in the things he says, because for instance, he has to rallies on wednesday night. This is ahead of the gag order hearing on thursday. We dont know what trump is going to say, but if past is prologue, hes probably going to Say Something that certainly goes up to the line or maybe crosses the line. Do you think the judge can even keep up . With these potential violations . And so i im not in the courtroom. Ive not dealt with the judge, elie and others whove been there have been with particular judge, think that hes pretty fair and keep things going pretty pretty down the line and keeps moving forward. Hes gonna have a tough time. Hes not gonna put donald trump in jail. Thats for sure. He keeps finding 10,000 bucks here and there, but thats not going to is that going to stop him in a case thats cook could mean the presidency yeah, i dont i dont think so. So to your point, its going to be tough for judge marsha on to kind of keep them in line by tapping them on the knuckles with the rule or every once in a while, they seven to tough well, its gonna be its gonna be a remarkable second week. Weve got the banker back on. Gary farro back on the stand tomorrow. And of course, we know that you and all of us here. Well be watching very, very closely this historic, unprecedented browse. We keep saying david urban, michael moore. Thank you both very much. And we head back to the campus of Columbia University in just a moment. The school now telling protesters that they have until 2 00 p. M. So just half an hour from now to leave their encampment or face suspension will be speaking with a columbia student about the mood on campus thats next day riyad saves new album is breaking records gets to say what country is call me country beyond, say a nashvilles renaissance streaming exclusively on macs you founded your Kayak Company because you love the ocean, not spreadsheets. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed, you do. Indeed instead match instantly it quality candidates matching your Job Description visited d. Com slash higher. If you have graves disease, gritty eyes could be more than a rough patch. People with graves could also get Thyroid Eye Disease hes or ted, which may need a different doctor, find a ted is specialist at isit ted. 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Eastern to leave the encampment that they have set up on campus these are live pictures were watching of some protesters. There that they have to do this or they will face suspension joining us now is nick baum. He is a student at columbias jewish theres theological seminary, nick, thanks so much for joining us this afternoon. Theres a lot going on on your campus. We understand that youre not there right now but as the Student Protests test group said, we will not move until columbia meets our demands or that theyre moved by four. So what are you expecting . What are you hoping will happen in just 25 minutes from now at 2 00 p. M. Well, im hoping things go as peaceful as possible, as quiet as possible, but obviously the expectation is that wont necessarily be the case and i think over the last few days, campus has obviously been a lot more attendance, but surprisingly a bit more quiet too. And i think all of that owes to a plethora of students who have left campus altogether because of the switch to virtual classes, to virtual final exams me living in jewish storms at the Jewish Theological Seminary i, for one can attest to that as ive friend after friends simply leave for back home because of concerns for their safety, its simply a ghost town where i am right next to the campus. And so as for the encampment, i hope things lets go as smoothly as possible. But obviously, were really expecting Something Else to play out. The statement from the group. Would you sort of this Umbrella Group of a number of Student Groups says that weve informed the university that we are prepared to escalate our direct actions if they do not adopt basic standards of conduct for negotiations what does that mean to you as you hear that nick and and what do you worry that maybe he mean its pretty disturbing to me. It makes me worry that something physical is going to break out, that some horrible things are going to start to be said. And as a jew and as a zionist, i believe that that could ultimately spell out a lot of hatred towards my end as me being under those categories. And i think ultimately the encampment leaders, not the actual inhabitants, somebody in camden, but those who are engaged in the negotiations. Theyve shown their true colors a little bit because weve seen in these negotiations, columbia offered to offer investment, to offer Charity Towards gazan health, towards Gazan Education towards scholarships for displaced students in gaza. And so forth. And so seeing the leaders of encampment, negotiations would go against that refused to do that because columbia would still be investing in israeli companies. It shows that they ultimately care more what about hurting israel civilians and helping gazan civilians . Nick, i read something that you said recently that the vilification of zionism has spilled over into the vilification of judaism. How much do you think that that conflation is playing into this . Thats that israels opponents are simply assuming that jewish students on Campus Support the Israeli Governments policies i think there is a large bit of that assumption. And at the end of the day, about 80 of jews are in fact zionists. So oftentimes when youre in this sort of echo chamber that columbia oftentimes this is hatred of zionism clung zionists, terrorists calling them nazis, as weve constantly seen throughout campus may inevitably spillover into hatred of jews in the process. And i dont deny that there are many jews living in the encampment, but when you actively throw the most vile rhetoric towards 80 of jews, then thats going to ultimately reflect oftentimes its simple hatred of jews i wonder nick, if i can ask you is were waiting to see what happens at two. Because this deadline approaches. You mentioned that there are jews living in the encampment. One of the more outspoken protesters is jewish and hes talked about the arrest and the eviction from campus of jewish students who oppose israels war on gaza. He said, quote, calls to more heavily police our campus, actively endanger jewish students and threatened the regular operations of the uterus bursty far more gravely than peaceful protests what do you say to that i think oftentimes peaceful protests, especially what weve usually seen at the encampment, dont present a danger to me personally as a jew and to most other jews on campus, i can say that much, but theres still is the necessity to have policing ive security, especially outside the gates, gates of campus because it was especially outside the gates of campus. Were non columbia affiliated protesters had amassed and shouted some horrible things. Yeah. Who deemed go away, go back to poland, will repeat october 7, 10,000 times. Those chants in danger of my safety as a jew. And we need security to be there to make sure that those active threats dont spill over into actual physical violence nick, we appreciate you speaking with us. Obviously, were watching very carefully as were about 20 minutes away from this deadline. Thank you. For being with us thank you. And still ahead, we have a cnn exclusive. Are david culver entering haitis gangland to speak with a gang leader who now stands accused of destabilizing the country and is also listed on the fbis Most Wanted List. Watch part of their discussion next a florida man is hospitalized infected with anthrax. Sunday. This became the bureaus number one crying to sell how would really happen with jesse l. Martins Sunday At Nine On Cnn was structured settlement had died your money. Use it when you need it im jonathan. Larson here to tell you about Life Insurance through the Colonial Penn program. 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Walk us through what this was like i think the visuals as you start to see them play out, really going to help set the scene here. Briana and alex, i been one of the thing is, when you realize you are totally surrendering control is the moment you drive even in an Armored Vehicle into gang toward territory, its land that wed been told in the past several months that weve been covering haiti stay away from, do not go there. But after weeks of negotiations with this notorious gang leader, somebody who considers himself to be more of a Community Activist we were finally able to get this interview in place, be guaranteed security from his perspective. And yet still you realize anything can happen. So ill let you see a little bit of our interaction in tour of his territory. And then ill give you a bit more for context on the backend Security Experts suggest crossbar ea has more than 1,000 armed gang members, including recently escaped inmates. As you can i see a lot of his armed soldiers and followers are around us and hes that we follow in dr. With them he brings us to the edge of his territory. We notice his guards normally curious and watching us are instead looking outward cautiously toward another gangs territory. A reminder that the coalition of gangs might be more fragile than portrayed in the midst of our tour. And disturbing video starts circulating on whatsapp. It reportedly shows the devastating and deadly aftermath of an allied gang attack on a community a few miles from where we are the destruction the violence, the deaths that have played out. Do you take any responses . Ability for that . Well, his unmask cities on qtip lives reverb. He only says he made mistakes and is not perfect. He blames politicians theres a lot of deflecting in this interview and the five hours that we spent with him and fit alone in a sense, this is who were talking with their is on the fbis ten Most Wanted List. Hes got this 2,000,000 bounty and yet he looks at it more as having been burned by politicians in the past. And theres truth to some of that. Theres a lot of corruption. He is a product of a country thats not only had political crisis, but also a natural disasters. And so this is a country right now thats need of healing but the games gangs are really causing a lot of the issues from been resolved. I mean, theres submarine supply lines and folks are starving guys. Yeah five hours. Its really incredible obviously not with no danger, but incredibly important to get the story here, david. It, ill sign is on the fbi Most Wanted List under un sanctions for human rights abuses. Hes wanted by the Haitian National police hes house. He hoping to stabilize the country if he rejects the haitian state and foreign intervention. So its interesting, we asked him this several times over the course of those five five hours. What is your proposal for the future and you do get a sense of this is somebody who yes, he has certain requests for how he likes to live his lifestyle. I mean, you can see it there in this gold rimmed Furniture Room with stuffed animals and yet at the same time there are moments where he doesnt seem to have ego. It almost comes across very zen and intentional. He says its about dialogue and about crafting that dialogue with other haitians. He stresses that because he says outside forces have caused a lot of damaged over the years within haiti but again, were talking about somebody who is responsible. And even though he pushes back on this, but his gag has been tied to a lot of atrocities, things that weve witnessed firsthand that are just terrific yeah, as you point out in that bit of the interview that we see there, david culver. Thank you so much for bringing that to us. 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The university is set and likely knowing that that deadline is approaching, the for the students to leave or face suspension. We have seen some protests develop outside the university here. Now, this is more typical of what we have seen over the course of, over the course of a week or so. And we can have weve seen protests like this. And these these have been sort of the differences in place in sites of protests that weve seen where theres been one set of protests outside of campus and one set thats more than weve seen develop on campus. Were really, theyve been pushing Columbia University to divest from israel now, weve got that crucial update this morning. Thank from the University President minouche essentially saying that the negotiations between a Student Protesters and the university had essentially com stanford wouldnt be Going Forward anymore. And essentially saying, im making clear that the university will not divest in a while. They said they had productive talks between the two sides. They couldnt get past that impact. That said, were approaching that 2 00 p. M. Deadline, your students inside have voted to remain past the deadline and were gonna get inside. As we understand it, a few minutes here to go, try and speak to some of those students where they plan to remain past the deadline with one organ guys are saying that they plan to remain there until they are moved by force. We will see what that looks like. An if we actually gets that point, of thousand things that have columbia appearing to be ramping up just a few weeks from graduation, omar jimenez and the Upper West Side of manhattan will become back with you shortly. As we reach that deadline, we will have much more on all of these protests across the country. 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