Were in ation room. Illee y back here tomoow, 11 00 a. M. Eastern for cnn newsroom. Of course, 6 00 p. M. Eastern in the situation room, the news continues on cnn right now out front next americas demise, trump predicting the end of the United States as we no, if he loses in november, when do we heard that sort of talk from trump before . Well, it comes is rfk junior or tells me that biden is bigger threat to democracy than trump. Plus global outrage after an israeli strike killed seven aid workers delivering food on behalf of the Chef Jose Andres is organization how could this have happened . When asked the spokeswoman for the israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu. And did trump already violate his gag order by reposting an insult about a new york judges daughter are legal analysts. Ryan goodman says, yes, and people tell you why. So lets go out front and good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront night the last flexion we ever have in america. Trumps words tonight is he campaigns in michigan and wisconsin. Hes predicting the end of the United States, as we know it, if he does not win the election if we dont win or november 5th, i think our country is going to cease to exist. It could be the last election we ever have. I actually mean that the last election we ever have well, he then set it again to be sure he meant it we dont win. I think this could be the last election we ever have. Thats where our country is going i mean, this is it best of course, a dark apocalyptic view of america, of view of a rotted nation. But in the context of trumps recent history, it also does very clearly ways the threat of violence because weve heard this from trump before. Obviously in those final months before the 2020 election we dont win this election. Every one of you be all of us. Itll never be the country. I dont think the country can ever come back to it and we dont win our country will have trouble. Youre not going to have a country not as we know it all of those times. And then of course, on january 6, 2021, this we cant let this stuff happen we wont have a country of it happens and of course, on your screen is what followed after those words, Trump Supporters taking that doom and beer, apocalyptic vision literally and storming the capitol claiming that they were taking their country back and saving it from doing which is why something that president ial candidate Robert F Kennedy said to me last night is causing many people to stop in their tracks i met listen, i can make the argument that President Biden is much worse threat to democracy and the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the first president history . That it has used the federal agencies to censor political speech. So to censor his opponent tried to overturn a free and Fair Election he tried to overturn one, right . Hes hes still find any how is that . Not a threat to democracy . Well, i think that is a threat to democracy. If him overthrowing, trying to overthrow the election clearly is threat to democracy. But the question was who is it worse threat to democracy . And what i would say is, i am not going to answer that question, but i can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, erin, is the most important but adams and hamilton and madison said, we put a Guarantee Of Freedom Expression in the First Amendment because all of our other constitutes, depend on it. If you ever government can silence its opponent it has license for any atrocity. So it has to be clear youre saying you could make an argument that President Biden is a worse threat to democracy than absolutely. Well, a couple of things to note here. Kennedy, in what he was saying there was referring to a lawsuit against the Biden Administration over the administration is request that social media accounts be restricted because of misinformation can be tweeted, among other things, a false claim that Baseball Legend in hank aaron died from complications from the Covid Vaccine but in the context of all of this, it is very important to recognize that kennedy is polling. He has been polling in the double digits consistently. He is trying and says that he will be successful in getting on the ballot in every state and the District Of Columbia so as words matter and democrats and republicans are worried, he is Making Inroads with voters. Trump tonight holding, holding rally in the crucial battleground, state of wisconsin, which he wanted 2016, but narrowly lost in 2020. It is a state where jill stein one could very well make a case is who determined who won that election. And were rfk junior could determine who wins the election. Kristen holmes, is that that trump rally in green bay . Kristen trumps team knows that every single vote in a state like wisconsin, is crucial. So what are you learning about the strategy there . Absolutely critical Battleground State one Senior Adviser actually calling it a must donald trump to go back to the white house and 20 you mentioned rfk. I will tell you. I met a voter yesterday in green bag, told me they were coming to this rally tonight, that they were supporting President Donald Trump former President Donald Trump but that they had been very interested in rfk while donald biden de, as you said, aware that every single vote for help, they dont want to lose any single votes to rfk. Now what theyre doing to court voters here in wisconsin particularly is trying to paint the status quo under President Biden as so terrible. They want to Energize Voters the show about the polls in november, they are very aware that in 2016 he added energized based donald trump. But in 2020, there were a number of people, republicans who sat out of the race because were back, but they were really saw austin from four years of donald trump. They want to bring people back into the fold and make sure theyre brought back to the polls in november. Theyre doing that with a message particularly on immigration. Donald trump has been ramping up his antiimmigration rhetoric and thats well, i want to today, both in michigan and wisconsin, talking about how migrants are animals weaken them to violent crime. And aaron, as we have reported over and over again the data shows that immigrants and migrants are far less likely to commit crimes than citizens. However, there have been a number of highprofile recent cases that donald trump has really latched onto see the sec key Talking Point for him. And it comes at a time where most americans, according to polling, are most concerned about immigration in the 2024, november election. So he is really hoping that that propels him back to the white house in 2024. The other part of his messaging in michigan and wisconsin is trying to reach those Working Class voters well, those voters that broke for him in 2016, but did not break for him in 2020. Hes talking about entitlement plans. He is telling everyone there are going to be tax breaks for everybody in the crowd. Hes talking about, you unions and Working Class voters and how hes going to support them. Again all of this messaging is driving it towards November 2024 because as you know, they know every single vote counts all right, kristen, thank you very much at that rally and green bay, i want to go now to Emmy Award Winning tv host mike rowe famously known for the hit show dirty jobs. He was also approached by rfk junior about the vp slot on his ticket. My good to see you again so you hear trump in michigan. He says, and i quote him. If we dont win on november 5th, i think our country is going to cease to exist. Now, mike ubend all 50 states about twice in the past year. So youve spoken to many of the people that this message is aimed at do you think they believe it you know, last time we talked there and i i think i said twice, i im so worried about painting with too broad a brush and what i see happening everywhere. I look and from a lot of the people ive talked to, i think they feel the same way. I dont want to put words in their mouth people are certainly scared the question is, what are they most scared of . I mean, a couple of years ago, people sounded pretty certain when they said the world was coming to an end in ten or 12 years, a lot of people still believe that. Yeah, i think a lot of people do believe this election is going to be hugely consequential is it rem is at the end of the world as we know it, i doubt it. I mean, as long as ive been Walking Around and as long as bipeds have been on the planet, there have been all sorts of prognostications, have all sorts of terrible calamities, bad things happen. I dont have a crystal ball, but i do sense it you know, i do sense a lot of people are feeling like something Something Else needs to be on the menu. At least for now. All right, so to that point you were on this shortlist for rfk juniors vp slot. You met with him. I know you told me, you know, your words, it became apparent youtube didnt agree on everything but then in the content of the conversation i had with him last night when he was making the point that he could argue that biden is bigger threat to democracy than trump. When you hear that, does that give you pause . Do you believe that . I dont know. It doesnt give me real pause. These guys are all trying to get elected and theyre going to ratchet the stakes up and whatever way makes most sense, their base, in my opinion, the thing that rfk said that stuck with me was really the debt. I dont here either. The current candidates talking persuasively about the practical reality of what happens when we get 250 were 45 trillion. I dont know exactly where the math becomes truly unsustainable but if i were making a list of the stuff that scares me the most that would be very, very clear. Any other country in the history of the planet where we are now would be unsustainable mean we are the reserve currency, so we have a little bit of pad, but to your point, the question is how i mean, i dont them. So theres Something Else but he said last night, it separate from the debt point, which i hear you on, but he said something related to that into peoples dissatisfaction. That i know speaks to you in many ways. Let me just play that American Dream when i was against that, if you worked hard, if he play a role, you could buy a house, you could finance it you could take a summer vacation, you could raise a family, you could put something aside for retirement on one job my kit, i have seven kids, aaron and none of them believed that that promise will be held applies to them so i know this speaks to you and what you experience. Do you get the sense that his support because of what things that he is saying there. Mike, for example, is building at this point yeah. I do look i didnt know if my first meeting was him was going to be five minutes are 15 minutes. It was three hours. And the reason was that was the very first thing we talked about and theres a survey in the journal worth looking at kimono six or seven months ago. It was a pretty Extensive Survey and the upshot was 64 of americans today believe the American Dream as they define it, as either dead or no longer applicable to them that is bad. And both of us agreed that as that number ticks up, see theres no real difference between the reality of a dead dream and the perception of the reality of it. That dream. When hope and optimism start leaking out, people are going to get, things are going to get very wobbly everywhere. And i do believe thats happened. Theres a sense that something fundamental, almost primal, has shifted, and it does go into the way we define that dream. Yeah. So trump michigan and wisconsin today, hes there because theyre swing states which have faced economic turmoil, right . Again, that, this is dissatisfaction at the heart of all of this. Youve said, mike that in the next few years, college in america could have a major problem because people simply just are really opting out. Its not just to talk, its not just a thing people say, but its a thing people are doing what are you actually seeing and how does it impact the selection well, what i saw two days ago was an article in the Wall Street Journal that almost made me want to take a victory lap. I mean wow, ive been at this 16 years and im not anti college as you know, but i am anti debt and i am very much opposed to the idea that promoting one form of education at the expense of all the others has led to a great many unintended consequences. So this article actually showed up with the receipts more and more gen z are going to trade school. Fewer and fewer are buying the idea that the version of the American Dream that theyre being sold requires them to purchase a 200,000 receipt that they can hang on the wall. The push back is real and look, this is personal for me. Ive been at at 16 years and its like watching a Tanker Turnaround but its turning aaron and you can see it in virtually every metric. And the fact that gen z is being labeled as the toolbelt generation is surprising, but not shocking because the evidence demands of verdict and theyre not buying it anymore. All right. Well, micro thank you very much. Of course. I know in your foundation, you are about to donate 1 million in scholarships and all related to these, these trades here over the next month. And thank you very much for your time out front now, democratic strategist, basil, michael and harry enten with us to go beyond the numbers okay. In the context of where trump is today, this whole contact about democracy and doom and gloom and enter the country as we know it its being said because its resonating with a lot of people. Yeah. Okay. That that is a reality. And mike is pointing at perhaps some of the reasons for this, that in some states, colleges prohibitively expensive, yes, people are now not just talking about it, they are opting out. What are you finding . Yeah. I read that same article that mike red and then i had a conversation with your Executive Producer about it. People who use their hands, those who go to vocational school, right . Those are folks who used to be in the center of the electorate. They used to be swing voters. You go back to 1,990 to bill clinton won that groupby about seven percentage points. Who won nationwide by about six, right . Look at where that group has shifted to. Now, look at the New York TimesSienna College poll aggregate all those posts donald trump is winning that group, those vocational and Trade School Grads by 42 points over joe biden. This is his base that people who work with their hands our donald trump space, this used to be a group that democrats tried to compete over. And now more people are going to vocational schools. Theyre becoming a larger part of the electrode and they are that heavily, heavily, heavily favors down trump, becoming a larger part of the electorate and heavily favoring Donald Trumps certainly, by any measure, but specifically historically thats bad for democrats. Well, im a college professor, so i take all of this does resonate with me quite a bit as well. This isnt as you talk about bill clinton, there was a time around his presidency where we started to push everybody to college because we thought about this as being the Knowledge Economy so it was important to push people to college, but two mikes point and hes right, you have a generation or more of individuals with increasing college debt, with burdensome college debt that cant really speak to their economic aspirations because there are so mired in that. So yeah, were seeing a lot more People Choose vocations, but i actually think that this is an opportunity for the Biden Administration. Hes been according Organized Labor. He has some support already. This is for him to work with Organized Labor to say, look, lets talk about the management of Organized Labor get out with the actual organelles. Sure. I mean, obviously the rankandfile is going to be really important. But even with the leadership, because its the leadership that well talk about and be able to expand on those Apprenticeship Programs that can bring on a lot of those voters but there, there, there, theres, this great statistic then, and its a tough one that the starter home which used to be really affordable for most americans, is practically gone. Only 10 of the homes that are available now, or what we used to consider startup so what Organized Labor has historically done is move people into the middleclass, including providing opportunities for housing. That is where i think that partnership with Organized Labor is really beneficial for the Biden Administration if if you had just in a simple way contrast right now, trump in rfk and theres lots of differences in overlaps not trying to do a full analysis here. Im just saying trump talks about the end of america, the last election will ever have rfk is identifying the same negative things, but trying to be idealistic about solutions, okay, so theres that i suppose the, into the emotional difference between the two is the interest in rfk growing . Are people responding to that . Certainly since your interview last night, i went to google searches, its one of those things where you can really see something spike and what you see is, since your interview outfront Outfront Last Night Google searches for rfk or up 149 . And this is something that weve been seeing over the last week as well, right . What weve seen rfk searches over the last week significantly higher than theyve been basically at any point during the rest of the campaign. And more than that, whats interesting is where those searchers are so high, right . They tend to be high in the great lakes Battleground States. Look at wisconsin and michigan, wisconsin and michigan, wisconsin, second most nationwide, michigan, 11th most nationwide, pennsylvania, 14th moat nationwide the fact is donald trump is in wisconsin night. He doesnt just have to worry about joe biniaz to worry about rfk junior. Well, and those were the states, of course, which were the deciders last time around. All right. Thank you both very much. Thank you. Next, israel struggling to contain the fallout tonight, one of its strikes killing seven, eight spokeswoman for the israeli Prime Minister is next plus new reporting and outfront this hour, the us and its allies now weighing whether to put Weapons Deliveries intended for ukraine under those control. 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Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. This is cnn, the worlds news network tonight, global outrage, israel facing condemnation from around the world after seven humanitarian aid workers were killed in an airstrike in gaza, they were all working for World Central Kitchen, founded by celebrity Chef Jose Andres, who tonight says hes heartbroken and is demanding israel stop using food as a weapon those killed were from australia, poland, the United Kingdom also a dual citizen of the United States and canada. Melissa bell is outfront hey, this is how manchester to be aware that date of a laugh, you can weve got the nice smiling in one of her final moldings. Zomi frankcom, an Australian Aid worker, one of the seven World Central Kitchen employees, killed by an israeli airstrike as they delivered to a warehouse in central gaza i do us citizen, uk nationals, a polish man and a palestinian, also amongst those killed the hum of war drones, drowning out the sound of Ambulance Sirens as their bodies were brought to a hospital after the strike the two nate trying to bring relief to the more than 1 million gazans, the un says are now facing famine now in body bags the logo with the aid organization, a reminder of the lengths to charity went to to protect its own traveling as they were according to the world so central kitchen through a Deconflicted Zone, whilst coordinating their movements with the idf the charity, which was central in getting around the blockade by getting the first maritime shipment of aid into gaza. Now saying that it needs to assess its future in the strip israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu acknowledged the tragic loss of what he described as innocent lives lets have no by my mouth whole niamey cut doggy. Unfortunately, in the last day, there was a tragic case of our forces unintentionally hitting innocent people in the gaza strip. It happens in war. We will investigate it right to the end so far, at least 196 aid workers have lost their lives in the occupied territories since the start of the war, according to the un agency tasked with relief, there the World Central Kitchen workers, just the latest among them, the palestinian driver and translator safety, some able to haul his loved ones forced to say goodbye to a man who died trying to help others to survive now the idf have just released a video, aaron showing the Chief Of General Staff left tenant herzi halevi, apologizing in english for the mistake explaining that a preliminary investigation that theyve been able to carry out shows that this was a case of misidentification. The idf had never intended. He any harm to be done to the World Central Kitchen workers also announcing that a new Command Center has been set up by the idf to coordinate its work with the Aid Organizations in order to make sure this kind of thing never happen again, aaron moos to thank you very much. And i want to go now to tau heinrich. Shes a spokesperson for the israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu. And you are obviously here in new york. I know for a bit tau what whats the very latest are able to tell us about the strike so this is what the idf Chief Of Staff just came out and said in his Nighttime Statement that it wasnt it was obviously a very tragic mistake. There was no intention here of harming the aid workers that was a mistake that followed misidentification during nights. Very complex conditions in a battle zone, tragedies do happen during war, but we should make sure that something of this kind will never happen again during this war. This is why the defense minister, the Prime Minister, as you just heard, they ordered to carry out an investigation. It will be transparent one. We will share the findings of which i believe it will take a few days or maybe a bit more and we will share the findings of which with the public and with the Aid Organizations. These are the good guys, aaron this is one of the aid groups that was out there right after the october is october 7 massacre on the ground helping israeli and palestinian civilians. We extend our condolences he says to their families, the countries from which they came premise or Benjamin Netanyahu has apologized to, of course, he called the strike a tragic case of our forces unintentionally hitting innocent people but as everyone tries to understand this, even in the context of the ongoing investigation, the World Central Kitchen Team was coordinating its movements with the idf so that they would know where they were the idf obviously conducts precision, Precision Targeting they put out a statement, World Central Kitchen. They said they were traveling in a Deconflicted Zone in two armored cars. And the World Central Kitchen logo is clearly visible. In this context of all of this. And as i mentioned, the precision with which israel is capable well, and the names its missiles. Longtime israeli reporter barak ravids of this today, here is i think i heard a lot of israeli officials today that were highly frustrated by the fact that somebody in the idf, most likely a very senior officer, at least a kernel, you need at least a kernel not to approve such a strike so somebody did approve it on a quite high level in the idf. And does a lot of frustration that such a thing happen when its clearly clearly against all the Rules Of Engagement . Its telling that context. Im just going to hone in on the word unintentional in a Precision Missile Environment which israel conducts, every strike is intentional, or, you know, youre aiming for something. So there was a precise aim. It would appear by any measure of Rules Of Engagement for that particular convoy at that particular time . Hi, right. I dont want to jump into conclusions, especially sit here in new york as war is raging in my part of the world back in israel and jumping to conclusions because i think we have, i dont have the exact details of what transpired there, and we will have to wait for the finding of the investigation. But what i can say and i think its its really important here is that when we make mistakes, when israel makes mistakes, even the most tragic wants to admit. And i was here on this program before we discuss the different tragic that took place during the past six months in which our hostages were mistakenly shot at three of our hostages. We take responses its ability, we admit to the most painful incidents. So we tell the truth even when its the most inconvenient thing to stay so let me ask you about something that is a painful truth, and that is the fact that Tens Of Thousands of gazans have been killed since this began. And many of them are innocent people. And we can talk about what the numbers are, but that is a reality on the ground just the past few days to how we have all been confronted with these images from al shifa right at the hospital and after the 14 day siege that the idf was conducting, and they say that obviously there were hamas operatives there, and that thats what they were targeting the hospitals been obliterated, their body but hes everywhere. Obviously, its no longer functional you say this is necessary to eradicate hamas. But i do wonder when you talk about inconvenient truths how does israel justify killing so many innocent people . In this first, i am glad that you said that we need to discuss these numbers because we because we have to take hamas as numbers with a huge spoon of salt, not a grain of salt, because what i can tell you the facts and the truth according to our assessment and the facts that we have in that is that we we eliminated more than 13,000 commas Palestinian Islamic jihad terrorists we took out 19 of the hamas battalions out there. One of the reasons why we have to operate in rafah, for instance, the Southern City in gaza is because we need to take out the four remaining battalions were talking about 7,000, 8,000 terrorists there so the reason why we have to eradicate hamas and you also brought brought up this point is because you and i dont want to sit here in six months a year, two years, and have this conversation again, tell are we going to be sitting here because a lot of the people there that are losing people in their lives are children and if they survive, theyre going to grow up. And what are they going to think about israel . What are they going to do . I mean how can you all actually say youre eradicating terrorism and eradicating hamas in the context of whats actually happening in gaza. Well, well have to look at historical example germany after world war ii, d radicalized and you dont see nazism you have it as an ideology, but not with, with the grip of a country. This is exactly what we wants to do with hamas. Yes, there will be radicals out there and you cant root out their ideology to the extent that we wish. But israel will have to maintain some overriding security responsibility in gaza two operate against attempts at resurgence of terrorism after and the day after hamas. I mean, and also work on deradicalization of the Palestinian Society exactly for the reason that you and i dont want to sit here again and we want to see a Better Future for israelis and palestinians alike. All right, well, thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate the conversation, of course, in a very number day. Thank you. We told you about zomi frankcom. She was a Senior Manager at World Central Kitchen outfront, spoke to one of her good friends, josh phelps today and he had worked with her for years. Their last conversation was two days ago. The day before she was killed said zomi was fearless and relentless and the getting aid into gaza and succeeding. Were many gop ferments have failed was her Mission Valmy was a very ambitious, sometimes stubborn, individual who knew what she wanted in life, and that was to build friendships all over the world. She deserved to be able to do more of that. Its unfortunate that she cant thats regrettable. 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Lot monday at one on cnn or streaming on that tonight, donald trump practically airing the court to find him in violation of his gag order in the Stormy Daniels hush money case, trump posting a clip from fox news that criticizes the daughter of Judge Merchant just hours after the gag order was expanded to specifically prohibit trump from attacking the judges family trumps posts, quoting law professor Jonathan Turley saying, quote, the integrity of the new york legal system is at stake here. The clip also included these comments from fox news is brian kill me the fact is the judges daughter, what is a activist who worked for Kamala Harris and there were some dispute on whether she did have a pick sure. Up on a website with donald trump behind bars that to me is something that if donald trump im cool concerned about. The judge has a daughter who feels this way all right. So its important just to have one factual clarification here. The judges daughter posting a photo of trump behind bars that has been debunked, did not happen, ryan ryan goodman, or outfront legal analyst is with me, so ryan so trump gets the gag order prohibited from attacking Family Members. Have Judge Merchant and then retweets this particular clip. Does this violate the gag order . Or is trumps safe because its not him saying it, its someone else. I think it violates the gragg older. So if the very words out of brian kill me, its mouth came on trumps mouth or out of his keyboard. If he typed those words, they would be in violation of the gag order. That is the smear thats being repeated against the judges daughter. The fact that trump is instead posting a video of somebody else saying it runs afoul of the gag order. That is him still making a statement. And i think that the judge will have to carefully look at this because if he gives it a pass, then hes really is getting a pass to it, a violation, but then what happens if he says its a violation . I think that its going to be a quick ratcheting up. The judge has already signaled that he has an intolerance for violations of his orders. And i think first step might be something thats financial. Second step might be financial and i think third is actually potentially lowering the boom, which is he will treat trump as you would treat any defendant and that would mean jail time if he violates a gag order multiple times. So were walking up to that line. It really looks like it wow. So in manhattan, but District Attorney alvin bragg is also fighting back, so hes rejecting a bid by trump to have Judge Merchant recuse himself citing his daughters political work of working for Kamala Harris now, i know you always say Kellyanne Conway famously would say stop, end george conway, right . Stop judging me for my spouse, right . So people have the ability to have Family Members have different political views and do Different Things in that context as chun need to recuse are not he does not. In fact, this has come up before and the litigation with merchant himself and about his daughter, trump had raised this before is an idea of recusal. And then in august of 2023, Judge Merchant actually issues an opinion in which he says, i sought the advice of the new york States Committee on judicial ethics and they told me specifically and then accord he has as he says, quote, we see nothing in the inquiry to suggest the outcome of the case could have any effect on the judges relative the relative is business or any of their interests and Quote Nothing has changed. These are the same kinds of allegations and nothing about his daughters business is directly tied to the case, would have to be that she is one of the parties one of the witnesses are why the council is a client of hers. None of them assists. All right. So i want to ask you about a brand new analysis your team has published. Im just security about the people currently in dc jail related to january 6 charges. Okay. So you say theyre 29 january 6 . Mates currently being held, their 29 being held 27 of them have been charged with the salting Law Enforcement officers in the capital. So thats 90 have had bad charge trump though is promoting a vigil for them. He has repeatedly said that he will free them or pardon them and he has referred to them as hostages. You have the hostages, the j6 hostage, as i call them, these were great patriot and they were unbelievable patriots so 90 of them have been charged with assaulting Law Enforcement officers hostages, and patriots. That was how he refers to that. Yeah. So the study is basically to finally pen down who exactly the people are. So if he wants to hold a vigil for the january 6 inmates in the dc jail yeah. And then he calls them political prisoners. And when he goes out onto the campaign stump, he plays the anthem by the january 6 quiet the acquires the january 6 Inmates In Dc so who are they . So then when decided to investigate that and the day after he announced the vigil, we have the exact list from The Dc Corrections facility and it shows 93 of them are charged with assaulting Law Enforcement officers on january 6, and its agreed jus actions and the majority of them already been convicted or pleaded guilty to it so these are the kind of the worst of the worst all right. And as you say, it, convicted or pleaded guilty right. So they are have done that. All right. Thank you. Ryan and now Incredible New Video tonight of ukrainian strike. This, strike is deep inside id russia a hundreds of miles past the ukraine border, and it actually targets one of putins biggest Oil Refineries. As ukrainian president is facing a crisis, taking a drastic action to recruit more fighters. 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It is the farthest inside russia that ukraine has attack that we know of since the war began. As i mentioned, it is more than 700 miles from the border in front. Now, jon sarlin, heres a former Us Ambassador to russia and ambassador sure. Its always great to have you with us and im so glad that were together tonight. So i mean, 700 miles deep inside russia, the farthest theyve gone, a major refinery it does come in the context of ukraine lowering the draft age, which has been hugely controversial and a big issue. Theyve had to do that because they need fighters, theyre running out of ammunition, theyre running out of weapons theyre in dire straits. Sure nonetheless, this is a very significant accomplishment for them what do you read into this . There they were able to successfully do Something Like this. Well, youre right, aaron, its a very significant development, but its an example of how the ukrainians have been able to off the battlefield, off the bat battlefield on the ground in ukraine, whether its the Russian Black Sea fleet, which has been driven away from ukrainian territory. Or strikes inside russia, including drones over the kremlin and hitting the center of moscow, ukraine through ingenuity. And resistance to the russians have been able to inflict blows on the russians but theyre stalled on the battlefield and thats a problem. And they are. And of course, the draft age. Now down to 27 to 25 and 27. I know they want to bring it down even further, but even that has been hugely difficult for them to do and perhaps the reason weve seen so much turmoil in the upper ranks there so in this context of Weapon Deliveries and ukraine, we already are seeing so many difficulties from that, from the United States. Were learning that the United States and allies are considering putting control of Weapon Deliveries to ukraine, right . Under nato, right under nato control. And that theyre specifically considering doing that because they think if done i dont trump wins. And if donald trump wins, they dont want him to be able to stop those weapons delivery, so theyre putting the weapons under the procedural control of nato itself. What does that say to you . Well, a couple of things are in first of all, at the start of the war nato, the United States or nato las resisted having this type of involvement by nato as an organization. Nato numbers individual countries coordinated by the United States with the polls, the germans, et cetera. At the year basin rammstein, we didnt want us to be a nato versus russia conflict what that suggests to me now, if there, if thats under consideration is for reason, youve just said is trying to make this not the United States supporting ukraine or the United States and our individual nato allies, but nato itself, yeah, the concern was that it would provoke russia. It would be nato At War Against russia. But the risk that ukraine isnt going to be able to serve five if it doesnt get the necessary weapons and may necessary. So i want to ask you one other important question regarding a putin right now and his actions. And that is the attack on Irans Embassy in syria. 13 people were killed bear obviously, russia has huge interests in syria United States that it didnt have a partner in the attack, correct put now eyes to maybe id have obviously former Prime Minister says, this, said this today when he was asked what arounds response should be, he said it would be interesting to see what would happen if Iran Hypothetically Attack the us embassy in israel. I see vivid fear and confusion in the eyes of americans obviously, he throws around a lot of bluster, but can you tell us why he matters . Well, hes the former president of russia. When he was president in 2008 to 2012, we in the west study was a potential liberal reformer of russia. Putin came back as president , thought and medvedev was weak. And now hes trying to prove himself, prove his metal is a russian nationalists, his language has been over the top for years. 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Ai or download the app. Anderson cooper 360 next on cnn an Oklahoma CityCouncil Member with White Nationalist ties could be voted out of a job in any moment this man, judd blevins, once marched with neonazis and allegedly recruited for White Nationalists now hes facing a recall when the polls close in, just moments at lavanderia is out front in enid, oklahoma tonight when neonazis and White Nationalist hate groups march through charlottesville, virginia in 2017. This man named judd blevins from oklahoma oh, man. Was in the crowd. He says he was there to protest the removal of Confederate Statues Blevins returned to oklahoma for the Monitoring Group known as right wing watch later reported he worked as a recruiter for a White Nationalist group and posted offensive comments in an online discussion forum. He has since said he disavows these messages then last year, blevins was elected to the city council in enid, oklahoma, 808 people voted. Blevins one by 36 votes. Blevins past had mostly flown under the radar until a small group of Progressive Activists in enid sounded the alarm About Blevins joining the charlottesville march theyre trying to get him voted off the council was very, very disturbing and frightening and i thought how is this still happening in this, in this year . Kristi balden volunteers with the Enid Social Justice Committee which organized a recall drive. Today, voters will decide if blevins keeps his city council seat. We want to hit as many doors, as many addresses as we can efficiently play and politely, get everybody out to vote. These volunteers are asking residents to vote for the other candidates on the ballot. Cheryl patterson but theyre finding not all voters are turning against blevins, who was a marine veteran and is fighting to keep his counsel seat. He does have supporters in ina then thats the really frightening part. Theres real tension around this case. Yes, there really is i will stand before the voters aboard one, and i will finn the job ive done here blevins makes it hard to know where he stands at times apologetic and other times defiant. He denies identifying as a White Nationalist or white supremacist, but has also asked for forgiveness i am a different man today than i was yesterday and there is no hate in my heart that hasnt convinced the citys conservative leadership. They tried to censor him last fall for his failure to apologize and explain his connections to white nationalism, saying his statements have caused disruption and discontent in the city. Judd blevins declined to speak with cnn, but hes tried to distance himself from White Nationalist organizations and if ive offended anyone in here, then i ask to be forgiven. That speech led to this extraordinary moment with the only black city Council Member, derwin norwood. And i want to do one thing before we quit you stand up do you love me . Yes, i do. As a brother in christ i love you too ill forgive you up until that moment i struggled with it but i forgave them in our realize that in forgiving him, i freed myself from becoming what he was or still may be, blevins has tried to disavow his controversial history, but hes also tried to justify his past actions raising questions about whether hes truly changed. But im not going to play this game where i take things that the media says are problems from americas past that are no longer the problems today and pretend like theyre serious issues. Theyre not when you heard that, what did you think . He doesnt understand what hes saying . Our last Council Meeting i looked out, im just like im looking at you and i said, man to you realize it was a that put his blood in a out there on the line for you, frankly, pushing back on this antiwhite hatred that is so common in media and entertainment. If someones like that in their private life, do they have any Business Serving in a Government Position . Absolutely not. Absolutely not because we gave an oath, we raised our right hand and we swore to the people that we serve everyone equally. And rightfully so polls here are closing and just about two minutes. And so we expect to add the Election Results later this evening ironically, theres actually a city Council Meeting going on in the building behind me. But judd blevins is not here tonight aaron. Absolutely fascinating and credit report. Thank you so much. Ed. And thanks to all of you for being with us for that and for our show tonight, lets handed off now to ac30, 60 with anderson tonight on three 60, the former president tries again to get his new york judge off the case. The Manhattan De A response as a clock ticks down to his hush in a file also tonight Trunk Campaigning to