Mesothelial mac will send you a free book to answer questions you may have called and well come to you 808 to one 4,000 today on Inside Politics, donald trump goes to swing states, michigan and wisconsin, where it helps stoke Immigration Politics Thousands Miles from the southern border as democrat zero in on the nazzal swing state of florida. Thanks to big news on abortion there last night, which the Biden Campaign is scrambling to capitalize on, plus a judges words. The judge Presiding Over A Manhattan Hush Money Trial tells donald trump what he cannot say but one more chance, own words about the former president might say a whole lot more. And rfk junior does Donald Trumps bidding an independent the president ial candidate . Says, joe biden is a genuine threat to democracy, putting what he calls social Media Censorship on par with trump separately hertz to stay in office, even though he lost, which of course culminated in a violent attack on the us capitol dana bash, lets go behind the headlines and Inside Politics up first, the Midwest Mission for donald trump exempted republican nominee goes to Battleground States for the first time in almost a month. Both michigan and wisconsin, the plans, there is to spotlight immigration, the socalled migrant crime. His team views as key to push on vulnerabilities by and for joe biden, what we dont know today is also important is there a trump plan to confront Abortion Politics headon after a Florida Court put the issue front and center there. And is there a plan to keep trump from breaking a newly expanded gag order limiting what he can say about those involved in the manhattan hush money trial that starts in just weeks. We start our coverage in michigan with cnns alayna treene, elena well good morning dana, and youre absolutely right. I think a key question today is how donald trump may respond to that expanded gag order from the judge. But look, i can tell you from my conversations with the Trump Campaign they dont expect him to cross the line. They know that there are repercussions if donald trump were to go beyond the latest gag order imposed on pin yesterday, which includes not attacking the judges family, which he has done before, and not attacking the family of the manhattan district attorney. And so well see if he tries to toe that line today as he did this morning when railing against the judge who had imposed that gag order. But luck, i do just want to bring your attention to what hes trying to do here today in both michigan and in wisconsin, its really the first first time weve seen donald trump in a matter of weeks, he only held to Campaign Events since his Big Super Tuesday when and so this is him really kicking off his general Election Campaign in earnest meanwhile, joe biden has really seen the surge in political activity and hes recently visited wisconsin and michigan as well. And i think that just underscores dana how critical these two Battleground States are both for trump and for biden. We know that donald trump won these states in 2016 but lost them in 2022. Joe biden and so hes really trying to make some ground here now, as for the overall ill themes that we can expect from the former president today. They plan to focus on the issues that helped propel them to victory in 2016. And thats immigration and crime. And as part of that crime push hes actually invited the family of a woman named ruby garcia to his michigan event. You ruby garcia was recently killed here in michigan, uh, by an undocumented immigrant. And Police Authorities say that it was a domestic dispute. Listen to how donald trump raised it we have a new form of crime we have violated crime and we have dr. And we have this ridge. We have now i think called migrant ghraieb, but loved to have a family there. Theyd like to be there will be, my honor now, dana, another big part of this again, is immigration and the border. Donald Trumps Campaign is labeled this mr. Speech as a talk about bidens quote border bloodbath, referencing that very controversial term he used a couple of weeks ago, something that received a lot of backlash from republicans and democrats alike. So look for some of that same inflammatory rhetoric today. Dana thank you so much for that reporting appreciated. Lets keep talking about this important trip and the more abroad 2024 discussion with my panel of great reporters, cnns mj lee cnns eva mckend, and Leigh Ann Caldwell of the washington post. Hi everyone. Lets start where alayna left off and just more specifically, look at the map set the scene for our discussion of where donald trump and joe biden have each been since Super Tuesday last month, trump was in georgia and ohio michigan and wisconsin today, joe biden, pennsylvania, georgia new hampshire, wisconsin, and michigan. Arizona, nevada, texas, north carolina. Now mj as we look at those, we should underscore that the sort of feverish pace that the Biden Campaign has been engaged in is very much part of his strategy to show that he is energetic and he can and will do that. Yeah. But but beyond that the idea that trump has been certainly been very much out there on his social media platform. Hes been in at least two courtrooms and not very much in these Battleground States. He is very intent as linda said, on pushing the issue of immigration, which hes been doing since he came out that escalator in 2015 . Yeah. I mean, you look at that map and theres a lot of blue compared to not very much red. And i think this all feeds into sort of i would say just like a good vibe from the Biden Campaign, right now. And certainly relative to what we were hearing from the Biden Campaign, even a a couple of months ago, you know, weve talked a lot about how there was such a sigh of relief after a State Of The Union displaying the kind of joe biden that they really wanted to the fund raising numbers, particularly compared to the biden the Trump Campaign has been incredibly strong. The fact that they are able to put them out there. The president himself then all the surrogates, and really criss these states at a moment when trump really has been nowhere on the campaign trail, hes been mostly stuck in courtrooms dealing with so many of these legal issues. All of that has the Biden Campaign. Again relatively speaking, feeling good compared to a number of months ago. And it is a moment where theyre trying to capital but allies on everything possible. And i think that is why we are starting to see, Talk About Florida. Its not necessarily that they very much seriously think the state is in play. They may or they may not, but it is more about showing that strength at a moment when they think trump is down, i want to come back to florida in a minute because that is such an important point. But eva but youre out there, you are talking to campaigns. Youve been talking to voters the fact that trump i just wanted to hone in on this for a second. The fact that trump is going to be pushing what you just heard him talking. Hes trying to call call it an epidemic. Its there are certainly some highprofile examples of some violence hes calling it migrant crime. I call it highprofile because in many ways, Conservative Media is trying to focus on a couple of really horrible events and make it as if its perhaps more brought, not perhaps make it sound like it is more broad than it is. Fact. Yeah, dana, the playbook is largely going to remain the same. He wants to continue to demonize immigrants. He wants to continue to try to argue to americans these brown folks, they are the real reasons for your problems. The issue though, when i speak to voters, is that by a large, this is not where the anxieties line. So voters will often address the economy stagnant wages, high grocery prices, buying a home. As all real concern but because he is using this playbook again of punching down on immigrants, well have to see if how this plays. This election will be a test of the strength of that argument, but there has been successful political strategies as you know perhaps crass as they are we have seen where they republicans in particular, here, have been able to stoke fear particularly in suburbs and been able to get their vote out. They have in some ways, but i just dont see i think that theyre just limits to this argument similar to the way in which democrats want to put abortion front and center. Theyre going to be limits to that argument as well. Because when it comes down to it, i think that the daytoday challenges of Everyday Americans dont come at the feet of undocumented immigrants. Yeah, it is just not its just not what im hearing. So lets turn to abortion. You wrote a lot about that in your newsletter this morning land, what happened last night . All right was that the Florida Supreme Court made clear that this sixweek abortion ban in florida would be able to go through and that advocates for Abortion Rights would be able to get that on the ballot. So theyre two driving issues four. For democrats to go to the polls and you mentioned this mj, the Biden Campaign is really trying to seize on that, putting out a statement that they are opening an office in florida would choose to be very much a swing state and hasnt been for the last several cycles. I want you all to listen to an ad that will run in florida and other Battleground States on this issue but 54 years. They were trying to get roe v. Wade terminated, and i did it and im proud to have done it in 2016, donald trump random overturn roe v. Wade. Now, in 2024, hes running the pass a national ban on a womans right to choose im running to make roe v. Wade the Law Of The Land again and just as i bring you in, just to connect what eva was saying to where donald trump is today. And that is michigan. There was the same kind of referendum on the ballot in michigan in 2022, in the midterms. And Gretchen Whitmer got 50 over almost 55 . The Secretary Of State on down, they all, all the democrats won, they overturned the state house and of course the actual Question Number right to abortion was almost 57 yeah. So thats always been the question. And if these voters, these Ballot Initiatives and when abortion is directly on the ballot for a voters, if that also translates to democratic votes, and it has in the twin midterm elections it did in 2023 elections as well. And so now with this driving force. And florida where youre going to have women who are now going to be directly impacted and just a month with a sixweek abortion ban thats going to make it very real for them. Also, coupled with the fact that theyre going to be able to directly boat on the issue of abortion in the ballot in november democrats now say and hope that perhaps florida is in play. We know that joe biden didnt really contest it and 2020, democrats spent no money there in 2022 and the midterms perhaps now it will be a state, but its a very expensive state. But regardless democrats think that its a very going to once again be a motivating factor yeah, six weeks is not a time when a lot of women even know that theyre pregnant and thats, thats how how early it is that this ban the Trump Campaign did release a Statement Today saying the following. President trump supports preserving life, but also has made clear that he supports states rights because he supports the voters right to make decisions for themselves. I mean, thats a statement without saying a whole lot intentionally. So probably captures why this issue has been so challenging for republicans that ad that you just played, not from the Biden Campaign. It actually isnt there first abortion focused. Add the first one youll recall was this emotional testimony . One from a woman who was denied access to abortion and its almost as though they are trying to paint a picture first, they go all on the stories from families and women whose lives have been affected their Health Care Access has been affected, and now we have this ad that first opens with donald trump taking credit for what has happened in the country in terms of reproductive rights. And then it goes to President Biden speaking directly to camera and saying, i am the candidate and the person who is trying to reverse that. So it does seem like theyre clearly trying to go about this. And theres going to be multiple iterations and there are multiple angles that theyre trying to use to get at this issue. Yeah, i spoke to staffers just before we came on air organizing that field hearing this morning, the democrats held in florida raising an elevating this issue and part of why they think that their messages so strong on this is because there are women that have already been impacted by the restrictions in place in florida. They have very devastating stories of having to continue on with very dangerous illfated pregnancies. And so they are going to continue to lead in on these personal stories to compete in places where they previously were not competitive. And i should say as we go to break that, trump did speak about this florida law back in september when the Florida Governor was running against him and he said that the sixweek ban is terrible thing and a terrible well, mistake. So the question is, does he still think that hes a voter in florida . Well, how is he going to vote on the referendum . I mean, i i think we probably know the answer to that, but its getting much closer to home for you everybody standby because up next, a judge draws a line around what donald trump can say while labeling his words to this point. Very real threat to the men and women involved in his trials. Well talk about that next check. We hear nothing. The Space Shuttle accidents using not one thing, its a series of events. Is that part as the wing coming apart, Space Shuttle color and be out of final flight, premieres sunday at nine on well have to alert suppliers, coordinate shipments already alerted already coordinated, since one can we just scale up mid cycle since we brought in vd0, people who know no vdo welcome to the waiver hood with wave, finding your style is fine the music stops grabbing it doesnt matter if it, ill dollar im sorry, carl, this is me and chair form i dont see you its perfect for you, but you love it. I told you we should have done opinion data i explained it so many times. 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This is cnn witnesses as fair game, real threats to families a direct attack on the rule of law. Those are all fears that a judge made clear. He has about donald j. Trump judge juan merchan expanded a gag order yesterday, limiting what trump can say about people connected to his hush money trial and importantly, their families. This of course comes after trump won after the judges daughter posting her name and pictures of her on social media. The legal ramifications will test trumps impulse control, but the bloodless of the judges warning about the Presumptive Republican president ial nominee is star merchan wrote at trumps attacks, quote, injects fear in those assigned or call to participate in the proceedings that not only they but their Family Members as well are, quote, fair game for defendants vitriol, cnn, legal analyst joey jackson joins me now. Joey, thanks so much for being here up. Can you just put in context these words for people who dont follow such trials all the time, how rare this is . Yes. So dana, good to be with you from a laymans perspective, its significant. Now, we know that we certainly enjoy First Amendment protections, and we also know that theres a Political Campaign and in light of that, certainly you want to be able to campaign and to state your piece, particularly if youre the presumptive nominee for your party at the same time, theres an integrity of the core proceeding that needs to be protected whenever youre trying to prevent someone from speaking, its called a prior restraint and porch frown upon that, however, remember this dana, that everyones individual liberties end where someone elses liberties begin. What does that mean . It means you cant yell fire in a theater. Why . Because others could be endangered. You cant defame someone, you can, but get ready for the legal consequences with respect to the payment of monetary damages, you can tell the president that words have consequences. Words can inflame. And when you are charged as, uh, judges with protecting the integrity of a the legal system. You dont want witnesses intimidated. You dont want witnesses to feel fear and threatened. Hows that going to impact their testimony . Will they agree to testify . Well, they agree to testify truthfully. Will they be endangered by an angry all of those are significant and in light of that, while it is rare, of course, you dont want to impair someones freedom to speak. Its not random a circumstance where other people could be impacted so gravely and dangerously. So i think it was the right call on the judges part, whether or not its actually obeyed by trump followed by him. Thats an open question. Right well, a couple of things there. One is, if you could just explain what happens if he breaks the gag order, if he doesnt obey it and two, as you answer that, you you know this, judge, you were prosecutors together. So if you could just reflect on what kind what it took to put this on a gag order in place, particularly given the fact that he he believed that his daughter, he didnt say this explicitly, but it was pretty clear that his daughter, whom the former president posted pictures of and her name might be in danger. Yeah. Thats without question. Now, first in terms of the consequences for failing to follow the order, there are many, right . You can start certainly with just an admonishment of the party that violates it. That would be the president thats not likely to work. Admonishing is just giving someone the indication can that youre not to do that. And then of course you go to the issue of fines and monetary damages and that may not work either because we know that this president has significant monetary exposure elsewhere. He just posted a bond, right . In connection with the new York State Attorney general case, 475 million. We could talk about the E Jean Carroll case. Right . Almost the 100 million there. So will that work . And then the issue then is going to be done and what the judge does to give this teeth to give this order teeth such that its significant, its one thing to have an author on a paper. Its another as a judge to enforce that order, will the judge put him in what does that mean . It means will you spend some time in jail and will be judge . If the judge does that feel ramifications again personally. And will it protect will the jargon be protected . He does that. And so whats going to be interesting to see what Judge Machine does in that regard in terms of how we got here. Yes. Look, i know the judge to be of good character. I know the judge to be exceptionally talented and bright why we will prosecutors together him a bit more senior than me. But certainly when we went in the manhattan das office, he did his job and did it well and elevated from there. But i think for a judge to get to this point, you have to protect the system. Theres a trial and everybody deserves fairness in the trial. But certainly disparaging people for the sake of disparagement. Thats not political discourse. Dana, that is denigration at the point of endangering somebody. And so i think he balanced did he drew that line and he gave the indication that is the judge if whats fair game and whats not. Talk about the judge or you want local discharge talk about the prosecutor, but leave other people out of it. Could who could really be harmed detrimentally words have consequences, particularly when you have a bully pulpit, like the former president does. And so many people who follow his every word. And so well see what happens in terms of the gag order data yeah. Im glad you brought that up, that the former president has no gag order when it comes to things that he can say about the judge or even the prosecutor, despite the fact that hes arguing otherwise on his social media platform, joey jackson. Thank you so much. For coming on today and putting it all in context. Appreciate it and coming up seven aid workers killed by an israeli strike in gaza, including what american, the us is now risks responding. Thats next the greatest stage the. 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They were working for the world Central Kitchen, the Food Aid Group founded by chef jose now trace, one of them is a dual us canadian citizen Secretary Of State Antony Blinken is demanding a full investigation you shouldnt have a situation where people who are simply trying to help their fellow human beings are themselves at grave risk we spoken directly to the Israeli Government about this particular incident weve urged a swished a thorough and impartial investigation world Central Kitchen says it coordinated its movements with the idf and its workers were unmarked vehicles with their logo. It is now pausing its operations there. Cnns melissa bell now, join me live from jerusalem. Melissa, the Prime Minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, did come out and admit that it wasnt israeli airstrike that killed these aid workers, but said it was unintentional that it was an accident. What more can you say thats right an unintentional incident that meant the loss of these innocent lives as the israeli Prime Minister described them and promising that he was in touch. Wed stay in touch with the countries that these aid workers were from and vowing a swift investigation. In fact, what weve heard dana is israeli officials, not just the israeli Prime Minister but the idf spokesman you have gone to the Israeli Defense minister all vowing a swift and thorough investigation that toplevel width, we understand the idfs top general are getting eyes on any information that comes from about what went on because i think one of the reasons theyre taking this this seriously and theyve communicated as quickly as they have is that remember that the idf have repeatedly over the course of the last few weeks and months and specifically, as the situation has gotten worse in gaza, reassured communicated on the fact that they claimed to be working closely with humanitarian aid workers in order to be allowing them to do their job, which is trying to get some of the food to the more than 1 Million People that the un now believes are facing famine. And i want to reach you a little bit about what jose andres himself had to say it is seven aid workers, of course, whove tragically lost their lives. We had a tweet from him earlier this morning urging israeli authorities to stop restricting aid, to stop killing aid workers and civilians, and to stop using food good as a weapon at saying, piece starts with shared humanity, and that needs to start now, the outreach that weve heard done and not just from the countries of these where these aid workers were from, but also from un organizations. Everyone whos been trying to help on the ground in gaza has been deafening ever since we heard about this tragic loss of life. And remember that the world Central Kitchen and was of course crucial to getting around the blockade by focusing efforts on getting maritime aid in and that 100 tons of aid that they just been delivering to our warehouse had indeed come by the sea. 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And what i would say is i am going to answer that question, but i can argue that President Biden is because the First Amendment, erin, is the most important two outer and hamilton and madison said we put a Guarantee Of Freedom Expression in the First Amendment because all their other constitutes depend on it. If you ever government can silence its opponent it has licensed for any atrocity with 37 hours after he took office, he was censoring me know, president , the country has ever done that the greatest threat a mockery is not somebody who questions election returns, but a president United States will use the power of his office to force a social media companies, facebook, instagram, twitter to open a portal and give the access to that portal to the fbi. Cia. Did the irs is set the nih to censor his political critics now, lets just be very clear. This is an important fact check joe biden wasnt setting out to censor kennedys speech or his political critics, his administration was encouraging social media sites to monitor and take down false information about the covid19 pandemic. Theres no evidence then biden himself was involved now, elsewhere in aarons interview as rfk junior woven allusions to his famous father and his uncle jfk aaron pressed him on the widespread opposition to his candidacy from within his own family listen i have a big family, honore know anybody in america whos got a family who agrees with them on everything. I dont know if thats your situation, erin, if you havent, family believes everything you do is like unicorns and rainbows. I could disagree on issues and we could disagree with passion and information, but we still love each other. And i love rory, i love my family. I feel a lot by them i think that aarons family probably does think everything she does is unicorns and rainbows but in all seriousness, eva, im glad youre here because you are covering the independent candidates, poor cnn. I know youve done a lot of work and talking to people who are either intrigued by, are already down down width and preparing to vote for rfk junior. What are you hearing . Why is this kind of argument resonating with them . Well on his point, that biden could present a greater threat to democracy. I wasnt really surprised to hear that. I think sometimes here in washington, we underestimate or dont really understand the full scope unless you travel the country, how much people felt deeply aggrieved by having to take the vaccine to reenter society, to go back to work. And so he is speaking directly to those concerns. People that really believed that that isnt a front. But the reason why kennedy and his campaign is a such a threat to the political establishment, both on the right and the left is because his ideology doesnt really fit in a neat political box. He talks about regenerative agriculture. The water and soil being clean, and getting chemicals out of our food and thats something that you actually hear often on the left. But he also talks about being antiwar and wanting to negotiate a peace deal between russia and ukraine. But in the same breath, sort of contradictory. He is very emphatically proisrael and so his politics are quite complicated, actually. And i think that that is why republicans and democrats are nervous. Well, whats not complicated is that he is very clearly, very explicitly saying, i dont fit into a box, a democratic box or republican box. And if you vote or dont fit into that, then im your guy. And i just want to put up some of the most recent polling we have. And one is just showing in the quinnipiac poll. This is back in october. Kennedy was at 19 and then more recently, the end march, kennedy was down to 13 . I should know two things. One is jill stein, who was not in the first poll was a part of that and shed got 4 . I dont know if thats taking away from some of kennedys support, but it did drop just a little bit later. So those Polling Results is why the Biden Campaign and democrats are now this year taking kennedy and thirdParty Candidates extremely seriously. They have staffers devoted at the dnc, dedicated to thirdparty candidate, former biden aides have formed a superpac to let voters know who rfk junior and other Third Party Candidates are. So this is something that they are taking very seriously because when they look back at 26 teen, a lot of democrats will say that Third Party Candidates were a spoiler for trump. Lets look back even further than 2016 to 2000 because aaron and her team found a comment, a sound bite from rfk junior back then talking about ralph nader, i want to play that for you and then kennedys response to aaron last night theres a political reality here which is that his candidacy could draw enough votes in certain key states. From al gore to give the entire election to george w bush, whoever gets elected theres going to be changes around the margins in tax and abortion or whatever. Okay. But both of them only have for years and i dont think they can dismantle democracy and for years i think americans institutions arent too great for that. And the chance for me actually change the nature of governance in this country to restore democracy. But of that happening are too great and too important for me to give up this contests what are you hearing from your biden sources . Yeah. I mean, these are all of the reasons that the Biden Campaign and National Democrats are not treating him as some joke fringe candidate to be laughed out of the room. I think the really big task at hand for democrats right now is figuring out how exactly to define him. And also figuring out who are the voters who are most likely to be rfk . Curious, who are the voters who are turning out to some of his Campaign Events and dont see him as a fringe candidate. I mean, is it the fascination with him being antivaxxer and frustrations going back to the covid years is it the kennedy name or is it just plain old . Frustration and being fed up with biden and trump and the fact that it is going to be that race again. And is it going to be enough for democrats sort of try to scare voters and say, look the fact that he is in the race, if you support him, that mean in another four years potentially have donald trump or do they need to be more explicit and specific in trying to define him . What are your real quick answers . Or they might have to level with some of these voters and say, hey, i know that some of the stuff that he says might make sense to you but listen, i am i am the best candidate for the job ive already been here for years. You know, pick me. I think that they have to negotiate with some of these voters. I will tell you the voters i met at the oakland rally. He held last week. It was voters who voted for biden in 20200. Thats interesting. As we go to break, i just want to quickly so our viewers have an understanding of where he is right now because he has to get on the ballot. He is now only on the ballot in utah, but his superpac and his Campaign Says that they have met the Signature Requirements to get on in hawaii, nevada, underscore that arizona, michigan, and several other swing states that will determine the election thanks everybody coming up florida was one of the swinging of swing states until it turned decisively red in the trump era, the Biden Campaign says, they saw something last night that makes them think maybe they can turn it back. Well explain after a brick get your viewing glasses ready and experience so rare, it wont happen again for another two decades. Dont see an end for live coverage around the country of the spectacle the skies eclipse across america, live monday at one on cnn for streaming on at Morgan Stanley oldschool hard work meets ball, new thing to help you see untapped possibilities. 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Im Sunlen Serfaty in washington and this is cnn voters are headed to the polls and wisconsin today, Spoiler Alert joe biden and donald trump will win their partys primaries, but democrats well be watching how many people vote against the president as a way to potentially send a message about his response to the war in gaza are jeff zeleny is standing by in madison, wisconsin. Jeff, the president , announced this morning that he is going to come there to madison next week. Its probably the most liberal part of the state of wisconsin. What are you seeing there and what do you expect as you talk to people theyre tonight well dana, that trip was no accident announcing that hell be coming to madison next week. And heres why they realized that to rebuild that Biden Coalition is winning coalition. He needs to get young progressives on board and there is a question on the ballot here. Through today. Thats called uninstructed. What that means is a you vote to set your delegates without instruction to the Democratic Convention in chicago. And that is being used as a protest vote for people who are really unhappy if this administration over tingling of the israel gaza war. So that is what we are looking for. For tonight. How many uninstructed votes are there . Its similar to the uncommitted from michigan. Its just called Something Different here in wisconsin but that will certainly show how much work the Biden Campaign must do in the coming months. About you. But to me, wisconsin is obviously there are several swing states and were going to talk about perhaps a new one and one second, but wisconsin is the one that i am watching the mode because michigan is important, but wisconsin to me could be the whole ball game it absolutely could. And heres why if you just think back in 2016, trump won by about 23,000 votes in 2020, biden won by about 21,000 votes the differences, there was no Green Party Candidate on the ballot in 2020. 23rd Party Candidates could be a major deal here in wisconsin, weve seen so many different elections here over the last decade or so. And it really is a redblue divide here. One difference is i talked to a lot of party officials, abortion that is also something that was not front and center in the 2020 conversation, it is now. So every election is different of course, but wisconsin, the fundamentals are largely the same. Its going to come back to wisconsin of course, why President Trump is here for the first time in nearly two years and President Biden comes on monday. Lets Talk About Florida while i have, you are obviously pretty far from florida right now, but you and i and you especially have covered the ebbs and flows of florida as a swing state over the years. I mean, lets just show our viewers what were talking about. Everybody remembers 2000. And if you dont, you should bush won by 0. 01 . And then he won by five went over to obama for both of his elections. And then trump one in 2016 and 2020 until i dont know last night, the Biden Campaign thought were going to put our money elsewhere, like places where you are like wisconsin. But because of this ruling on abortion sixweek ban saying that its okay and allowing a measure for Abortion Rights to be on the ballot, which tends to be a boat driver how realistic do you think based on your discussions with biden officials and other democrats . That this florida decision and said of decisions could really put it in play its is adding a new element to this Campaign Just when you think you sort of know everything thats going to be happening battlegrounds are set. This is something thats been added and it Say Something that Biden Campaign views as a gift. They believe it is winnable. They know its very difficult to win. Jenna, the question, will they spend money there . Will they start spending money in florida . That will tell us how really winnable they think it is. Yeah, great point. Always good to see you. Thank you so much, jeff. Appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining Inside Politics, Cnn News Central starts after the break imagine a future where plastic is not wasted but instead remade over and over into the things that keep our food fresher our families safer and our planet cleaner to help us get there americas plastic makers are investing, building the ends of dollars to create Innovative Products and new Recycling Technologies for sustainable change. Because when you push for Smarter Solutions wed, things can happen im Jonathan Lawson here to tell you about Life Insurance through the Colonial Penn program if youre h 50 to 85 and looking to buy Life Insurance on a fixed budget. Remember the three ps what are the three ps . 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