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Welcome to the whole story. Im Anderson Cooper, a little over 20 years ago to menn in naples, florida, went missing within months of each other. Turns williams and Philippe Santos and no known connection and no known ties to each other. They did have a few things in common. Both were men of color. And both were picked up by the same deputy from the Collier County Sheriffs Department on the same street in naples before they disappeared. Is deputy is the last person known to have seen both menn alive an internal Affairs Investigation showed the deputy was not being truthful about the events surrounding the disappearances but thats as far as it went, is denied any involvement and was never charged. The bodies of Terrence Williams and Philippe Santos were never found. The case which didnt attract much attention at the time, seemed to be over with no answers and no suspects over the next hour, cnn anchor and chief legal analyst, laura coates, along with siena and Crime Reporter thomas lake take a close look at the case and piece together new details about the deputy and the disappearances they find may surprise you i just had never heard of another story like this one, cnn Crime Reporter, thomas lake has been searching this secluded area in north naples hes looking for clues to help solve a mystery. One that is haunted him for the last five years a woman coordinate tip she thought that terrences remains were in the wooded median of i75 hes talking about Terrence Williams. Terrence disappeared about 20 years ago in this area. And hes not the only one Philippe Santos also vanished in this same area about three months before Terrence Williams went missing the two men didnt know each other and had no known ties except for one youve caulkins was the last person known to have seen these two men alive. Whatever else they might guess. All trails lead back to that we are east of old 41, north of the circle k where Steve Hawkins said he dropped off Terrence Williams Corporal Steven caulkins was a Deputy Sheriff at the time. He picked up both men and his patrol car before the inexplicably vanished. They are both presumed dead 20 years later. The cases theyre cold just going to go back there and see what i can see, knowing that the remains of Terrence Williams and fleet bei santos are still out there somewhere this parts a little tricky. But once you get past these rocks and gets easier caulkins got to know this area for you really, really well, he had lived in north naples, then had patrolled it for at least ten years. So he knew this place the back of his hand the authorities are pretty sure hes lying about something but he was never charged carpal caulkins was 16 year veteran with the Collier County Sheriffs Office. He was described by some citizens and former colleagues is a good cop who cared about his community until these men disappeared. Cochrane header volatility, clean record which leads to the question at the heart of this story its worth at least taking a look at whats over the rise this way did Corporal Caulkins have anything to do with the disappearances of Terrence Williams and Philippe Santos. And if so why has anyone been able to prove it someone should still be looking and why not us our lives just stopped. I have to go on every day, but everything just stopped what do you think happened to him someone harmed him. Do you think you know who . I think i know who allowed it to happen . Who was that . The focus has been on the x deputy Steve Caulkins, the last known person you think see him alive on january 12, 2004, culkin spotted Terrence Williams theres White Cadillac and pulled him over. Theres no way to know what time this happened. Because according to authorities caulkins didnt report it to dispatch Deputy Caulkins claimed that he saw White Cadillac, which he believes was having car trouble that cant be true, says Mircea Williams, that cadillac was and perfect condition. He had just gotten it out of the shop. We drove a 25 miles after i had to pay to get it out of the tow, drove it home no issues no issues with caulkins on his tail and the Cruiser Lights flashing. Terrence pulled into a Parking Space the naples Memorial Garden cemetery Deputy Caulkins believes that it happened somewhere around 12, 15 a new niche but witnesses at the cemetery plays caulkins between 9. 10 in the morning. Thats a huge discrepancy another discrepancy and Caulkins Timeline Terrence was scheduled to start his shift at pizza hut at 10 00 a. M. And caulkins statement, terence asked Deputy Caulkins for a ride. He was late to work and ask Deputy Caulkins for a ride. There was some suggestion that terrence would have accepted a ride . No. Dont believe that. Why not when you a minority you pulled over by a sheriffs deputy for Collier County and he knowhow cups react to certain things should i say it that way . The hi trust cats . No people, no he would have said to him, let me use your phone so that i can call my mama first the cemetery behind me is the last place that any independent witness recalls cn Terrence Williams, a witness at the cemetery who did not want to be identified. Told investigators it looked like terrence was being arrested the Police Officer was asking for id. He patted his legs. Instead. I have nothing i have no id he placed them against the vehicle with his hands on the vehicle. He patted him down and then eventually put them into the back of the car and then left till this day almost two decades later, we still dont know exactly where Deputy Caulkins took Terrence Williams. According to deputy and statements the simply gave a citizen awry. They didnt have a drivers license to have taken to the jail. He gave them a break, wrote on my citation. He dropped Terrence Williams off at a local circle k again pass station. But that information was never substantiated ive always had Trouble Making Sense of the story he told because why would Terrence Have asked to go here . He has never really properly explained that. He claims its because he thought terrence worked here will Tens Of Course not work here. He worked at the pizza hut couple of miles that way i woke up on a Monday Morning and i was a nervous break. I had no idea where to even look for him. He didnt even have a cell phone. And after that, it just got worse and worse. We couldnt find it she started contacting the Sheriffs Office. She was looking for a son. He hadnt been seeing he didnt show up to work. He didnt pick up his last paycheck. Are missing person report was made mircea track down terrence car, which records show had been told from the cemetery by caulkins four days after terrence went missing, a Collier County Police Dispatcher called cochrans to inquire about the incident on your day off you you put somebody in the back of your vehicle i dont know. You a rough been anybody nobody . Colored light one way you could sit up at 111 and coke, put payment Light Cadillac towards taylor. A look at my. Notes. I dont remember or you didnt know . As terrence is . Caulkins account of the events are not accurate. He didnt check out with mr. Williams on the radio as youre supposed to . He didnt notify dispatch that he was transported someone from one location to another. The timeline of when he said it occurred versus the independent witnesses all of that appeared that he was not being truthful about the encounter between Terrence Williams and himself. Those inconsistencies surface during a monthslong internal investigation. Corporal caulkins took three Polygraph Test during the probe. One of those tests indicated deception mircea, there was a time when caulkins was interviewed. I want to play this for you in this meet reporters scum bags. My son was a scumbag maybe his collar zones have a scumbag. Maybe he was a dirty car could this be a clue to what happened coming up . A breakthrough in the case . Theres one drink. Every bartender wants to serve its not an old fashion or a manhattan. Because every bartenders least favorite drink to serbia is onetomany welcome to the waiver hoods, wayfair vibe at our place. Western. My thing, darling gardening some of us go for the dramatic how did i know weve had vanities and tile this ottomans about legs. Can you flip for the group . In the waiver hood . Theres a place for all of us every style, every home. I wont let my moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis symptoms to find emerge. 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Theyre getting 30 hes referencing a vin number. He seems to be joking with this man then caulkins changed his accent and began using wouldnt internal review later called unprofessional foe African American jargon. I dont signal 11 meant the car was abandoned and signal 52 meant it was disabled. Neither description was true thats the way he looked at my son. He knew nothing about terrence he was judging my son those are normal are necessary comments and it suggested something underlying for possible motivation. But in and of themselves, they could be anything from inappropriate to talking about some kind of in a rage. Dont know the most frustrating thing about this entire investigation is is that we always come back to only the same sentence in the same sentence alone. He was the last person to see them align i came from a town where the kopan called the childs mother he didnt try to have ten if he tried to help terrorists, terrorists would have been in jail with the violations that he had terrorist wouldnt be missing what was he like . From the beginning . He kept me busy all the time he decided that he wanted to play sports baseball, i would get off work from one side of town run to the other side of town, pick him up. You guys are very close. Very close. What do you think of the man that he would have become a father to his children, which he loved. Allah rooted in church his dream was to open up a barbershop and that was about to happen. And he disappeared terrence was 27 years old and a father of four, waned disappeared. And the promise them that im doing everything to find their daddy two months after terrence went missing mircea wrote a letter to the local paper pleading for help in the course of you desperately searching for your son the Mexican Consulate became aware of your search the attorney who was assisting the family with the case called and said, i was just googling Deputy Caulkins his name and this letter to the editor comes up. Its a woman whos asking for help looking for her son, Terrence Williams. It was so strangely similar to what had happened to philippe. Oh, my god. They knew that philippe encountered caulkins a few months before mercy is letter help connect the two cases. I just remember the chill and having to read it a couple of times when when she sent it over, one of them, a young hispanic immigrant, the other africanamerican, young and both mr. Seriously disappeared it all these pictures of terrence i see fully by santos . Yes. They go together just like Terrence Williams, philippe had been driving without a license when he encountered Corporal Caulkins. And just like terrence philippe disappeared right after that, everybody believed that the circumstances were so improbable that it was a coincidence. We dont know what we have. We think this might be a hate crime. Philippe santos, a mexican immigrant, was just 23 years old and on his way to a Construction Job when he vanished in october 2000, 33 months before terrence disappeared i remember philippe being kind of quiet, but always very sweet always with his wife. He had just had a baby and he was just over the moon that Julia Perkins new philippe through It Organization that helps Migrant Workers located where he lived in a mockery, florida, about but 40 miles northeast and naples the day that Philippe Santos went missing, he was involved in a minor traffic crash. Both the occupants of fleet be santoss vehicle in the other vehicle pulled into a Gas Station Parking Lot at some point Deputy Caulkins put flip santos in the back of his patrol car and drove them away from the crash scene it was believed by the other occupants that mr. Santos was being arrested for not having a drivers license. It was being taken to jail. They didnt have any record of him having been brought into the jail. We made some inquiries, got the family eventually in touch with the Mexican Consulate, was just kind of all these attempts philippe was nowhere allegedly, he had been taken to some circle k for him to call because he was not in the country legally, but beliefbased brothers said they never heard from him a catia yum. The first thing my brother would have done if he had left him at the circle k is called our boss to come and pick them up that was the last time i ever saw my brothers up until now. I havent heard a word. Another mystery, a time gap of as much as one hour for and 48 minutes after caulkins left the crash scene with philippe in his car. About two weeks after philippe disappeared, his brother filed a Citizen Complaint against caulkins. Philippe was undocumented to relatives, wondered if hed been picked up by immigration authorities. 1 official suggested the men were hiding out. It didnt make any sense at all because he was happy here. He was enjoying his young new family. He was working at it a steady job. He didnt have any reason to leave. There was no indication of that time that flip santos there was any foul play involved. There was just one case, a missing person its not illegal for someone to go missing. Then after a one month long internal investigation, the Sheriffs Office exonerated caulkins, concluding there was no basis for linking Corporal Caulkins with the alleged disappearance of santos that first disappearance was something that didnt raise the attention that it needed to spark. They didnt know what they had, had. They found something else. Have they dug a little deeper perhaps more than just rubber stamped it . Then maybe it have answers for both families. Just over a month later, caulkins was back on patrol when he saw Terrence Williams kims driving an old White Cadillac when we return. This is my last ditch effort to try to get some answers. Mr. Cotton i must admit i am nervous what happens to the golden boy of new jersey . I engaged in an affair with another man did you want to be outed again night at states of scandal with jake tapper. 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Her like a failure leave running behind behind the turbo charged volkswagen atlas. Does life people get 1. 9 aprsuper bs choose. Com, vegas. The store you send city 1098 on cnn Closed Captioning brought to you by mesobook. Com our firm has offered a free book about mesothelial for over ten years. Mesothelioma is really all we do. 808724901 ive interviewed more than 60 people, obtained Tens Of Thousands Pages of police and court records, gone hunting in the woods, tom lake is on the move and sida rapids, iowa one thing i havent yet to do is knock upon Stephen Hawkins door Stephen Caulkins moved here from naples eight years ago, leaving many Unanswered Questions about the two missing menn. I sent list of questions are about 11 pages long. Didnt get any answers to those this is my last ditch effort. To try to get some answers from mr. Caulkins he was then and is now a cipher. We dont know who he was with two men now, missing. Investigators focused on Corporal Caulkins we searched his vehicle but what we did dna tests, we then canvases entire area that he wrote in patrol. We dragged lakes for bodies the other thing we did was interview every person that had contact with him to find out if there were remarks or things that would provide evidence a racist tone. There were literally hundreds of interviews. Most of them turning into i didnt know the guy hawkins yes. Still a mystery to me all this time later born in 1954, grows up on this farm outside ottawa, illinois pretty forgettable in high school he went back to the family farm and worked there more than a decade he tried working as a security guard, didnt make a lot of money didnt like it. He decided to move to florida and start a new life. You see him in his Police Academy . A picture. He just looks not only older, but kind of bigger and stronger than the other recruits how would a corn farmer from rural illinois do as a Police Officer . Well, they throw them into this other farming we place called a mockup. A fair amount of action for a Law Enforcement officer may in some arrests are right away. It didnt back down from confrontation and loved the guy, had some good moments as a deputy. All these citizens who wrote into the sheriff to say thanks, Deputy Caulkins is a credit to your organization. Sheriff, he saw me stranded and went out of his way. He went Above And Beyond and even a moment in 1996, when after a car crash, caulkins was called a hero this man was dying. Caulkins was there we gathered these bystanders and they all helped him to lift the vehicle off this man and save his life but as tom dug deeper into caulkins background he found some disturbing revelations one colleague, charles peterson, declined to go on camera hi with us, and peterson said he liked steep, but he talked about how one thing that made Steve Furious was people who im driving without a license or insurance. And peterson said specifically black or mexican drivers alarm bells are going off in my head because this was true both Terrence Williams and Philippe Santos, their minority drivers without a license or insurance peterson later said caulkins guy angry but anyone driving without a license or insurance regardless of their race should i call him first . Hello, please leave a message after the tone mr. Hawkins, its thomas lake from shes got a few questions something that just stood out to me the most and digging into steves background, is that about three three years before the end of his career, he just stopped arresting people his Arrest Record was next to nothing. So here was a guy that was purposely flying under the radar this is something that i want to ask him about todays steve, why did you stop arresting people . He wrote almost 400 incident reports after his final arrest and his supervisor either didnt notice or not. It was okay i dont know what to say about a supervisor that supervisor tim 20 some years ago, i cant speak for that person. The fact that he didnt make an arrest past 2001 is concerning i asked charles peterson, what do you think is going on . The state whiny suppressing people. He said he may have just lost trust in the Justice System and he thought it was a Revolving Door that he would arrest people and theyd be back out on the street before he finished the paperwork. So this is the question that has kept me awake. A lot of nights. Was there a deputy out on the streets . Trolling Collier County, florida in 2,003. 4, who decided to take matters into his own hands. Did that have some connection to the disappearances . As we get closer to caucus de feel nervous. A little nervous . Id love it if youd want to tell his side of the story to really clear this thing up and done so many of these door knocks that just like this routine, i have get out quickly so people dont wonder whos in that strange vehicle, walk to the dr. Show my hands and then take like a couple of steps back so as to seem less threatening pretty quickly, a woman came to the door based on pictures ive seen before, im pretty sure it was steves wife. She was not happy to see me she said, i dont know why you think he would give you an interview came all this way . I never saw mr. Hawkins was just one more thing to try, one more thing to cross off the list but im not giving up im trying to find the truth. Certainly not giving up im trying to find what happened to terrence are two fleet bei so it was over here where i had will we finally get answers to this mystery . Mr. Stephen caucus, did you kill felipe based santos . I object there is no media personality. Businesswoman celebrity chef. 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It put me on Evening Shift and see a Caucus Resolve my ship i never forgot that night. A former Police Officer broke the socalled Blue Wall Of Silence to speak out about Corporal Steven caulkins i got in Law Enforcement back in in 1983 in Collier County. We met what was your First Impression of steve . Happy go lucky, joking kind of guy. He was he was normal. I didnt think anything of it until i started working with him tony martin, dale now retired and living in california, met up with tom where he worked with caulkins in the early 90s. Caulkins was dan and new Deputy Working in immokalee florida, a Migrant Community northeast of naples what kind of a places this for someone to learn to be a cop, not good. It was atmosphere of a police state, like the wild west. We were told by then lieutenant kip, roy kip, who was in charge of substations that point that he was being pressured to address the triet robberies out here. And wonder if you flip patrols martin dale was a supervisor and one night he went on patrol with Caulkins Near El Lu sarah bar, where many of the Migrant Workers spent time. So we walked up to this guy and see you cochrans journey. One of those middle clipboards she walks up to him back. But this is you in hours, any part starts to ask for his name. It all a sudden without warning, you fix that slip board and just back cancer across the face with bam mean hard and he goes, you look at me, im talking to you boy, hed look at me and i said, steve, take it easy, well get some trouble. You can do that. He says, i hate these feeders and dont speak english. That was just like works i hate them. That scared me. Im going this isnt his first time doing this as it couldnt have been, because the hatred hes given to human rage. Martin dale says his horrifying night with caulkins didnt end. There were saving that direction over there from substation walked down to here, walk through the crowds. I said lets go over here, south Second Street and talk to the area really dealing, correct then according to Martin Dale Caulkins approach to home where he believed they were dealing drugs. He knocked on the door. Nobody answered. He reached down and grabbed the door and turn them to be heard. Luck give white snap any pushed the door open. I see see what are you doing . He goes it was open. I said no, it wasnt then a black guy came out. Lets male screaming anymore. You did in my house what are you doing here . Get out from this was illegal entry without a warrant as to where hes just busting into somebody this happened was going to happen Arb Each Other a copout committing crimes and youre seeing it absolutely the next day, martin dale says he reported coggins misconduct to his supervisor i said he doesnt belong here. Weve got to give him out of this district soon as possible. He hated the migrants and the black shirt not long after that night, Deputy Caulkins was transferred to another patrol zone in north naples. He probably should have been taken off patrol snap. I think he maybe some triggered and good triggers if true could caulkins of snap the same way when he came across Philippe Santos and Terence Williams ten years later. Are sure it made me very angry. He didnt like a Revolving Door, no license the surprise me know did not surprise me. Did Steve Caulkins deserve to wear a badge and your opinion . Absolutely not a sheriffs investigator compiled a list of nearly two dozen untruthful or inconsistent statement moments from corporal clark. Its about the day he met Terrence Williams but caulkins has never been criminally charged. Years have passed and the case has remained open at some point in time. Tyler perry, the artist and producer learned about terrence as disappearance did that make a difference thank god for sunday me, an angel in 2018, the filmmaker enlisted Famed Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump to file a wrongful Death Lawsuit against Corporal Caulkins on behalf of martial williams. He will be subpoenaed, and he will be made to call for the first time to answer. All the questions that Masia Williams has for him yeah. In a bad back two years later, Stephen Caulkins gave a deposition as part of the civil suit. Mr. Stephen hawkins, did you kill Terrorists Waves . No. Mr. Stephen caucus, did you kill felipe based santos . I object caulkins by then age 66, was stoic walk questioned why would a black man in naples, florida in a cadillac who doesnt have a license doesnt have a valid tag on his car. Invite you to interact with him by motion for you to come talk to him and do a traffics i dont know youve watched his deposition what was that like . So until for so many i cant remember so many of those. Jareds williams he asked for a ride. You initially tell them no why is it that you eventually say yes and then you start calling on what you call a homie to do the dispatcher. We mean you dont remember Mircea Williams had been waiting almost 17 years for caulkins to face questions like these about the day her son disappeared . But there was no confession, no smoking gun before his deposition, an arbitrator had ruled in favor of caulkins. The arbitrator wrote being an uncredible witness or even a liar does not make caulkins a murderer are guilty of manslaughter qatar the suit could have gone to a jury from there. But after the crump legal team, mr. Filing deadline, a judge dismissed the Case Specialists to say anything. Im so disappointed as a mother i was a judge considered and its made you more resolved to believe he knows something more Caulkins Name is all across the board. You think he has answers you need . He does. I dont think does cnn made many efforts to reach steven caulkins, his attorney, notifying us if caulkins declined to be interviewed, adding Stuff Stephen and his family deserve to be left alone ive next well a new search, bring answers but just seems like worse. So one little thing what happens to the golden boy of new jersey . I engaged in affair with another man. Did you . Want to be outed United States of scandal with jake tapper are gonna go to therapists if theyre having an interview with jade, definitely new episode next on cnn you know that thing your family does yeah. That thing someone made it a thing way back in the day but where did it come from . And how did again, all the way to you . Curious ancestry can help you find out because that thing has a story. And its still being written what are you waiting for sale . Well, lucky you baby. We got the team we got this game, this year. 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Mesothelioma is really all we do. 808724901 just goes to Golden Gate Estates area, then in comments and naples north naples area what happened to their bodies is a good question, but you saw the terrain coming out here everybody is Boulevard Rabbit Ron Plat road as are all roads into nowhere into the abyss of the swamp unless somebody walks across the body, theyre not going to find it former sheriffs lieutenant tony martin dale, who once worked with Stephen Caulkins, still has so many questions about the disappearances the same ones that plagued investigators 20 years ago when they probe Corporal Caulkins about inconsistencies in his statements we tell we have to go back and get clarification. It makes it look like youre trying to hide something if youre tried to hide this, what else are you trying to hide . You . We got a body laying around and the stakes somewhere that we dont know about thats caulkins laughing in the background i mean, were going to be clearing. Youre going to be widening, you know what mike lee wrote down through weightings pass one day and all of a sudden find out that we got a dead body out there, like to keep digging all these dead pies abound there the area of the officer is describing was Caulkins Patrol Zone around the time of the disappearances three sets of Human Remains were found within ten months in or near that zone. Two are still on they were not the remains of either Philippe Santos or Terrence Williams one was sergio good arrow, an undocumented mexican immigrant with no known direct connection to caulkins all three cases remain unsolved. It was yet another dead end in this tragic story. The families of Terrence Williams and fleet by santos have been in limbo for 20 years. The Sheriffs Office says the cases are still open the car county Sheriffs Office is taken. Both these cases very seriously over are almost the last two decades. We followed up on dozens and dozens of leeds weve had people recently call in given locations where they believe bodies could have been dumped in our county, those areas have been checked. Some of them multiple times each time with negative results in november, the Collier County Sheriffs Office followed up on a lead from our cnn team. This is what they call the dunes all in here. This right here is where another deputy said Steve Caulkins, like to drive around in here and you can see theres this network of dirt roads so weve zoom in more these are the two lakes in the southern of the two has the island right here youve been to this area a number of times conducting your own search. You had reached out to the authorities down there to get them to also expand and continue their search. In particular areas did they . I tried checking with the Sheriffs Office. Was this island ever searched . Were any votes used . The answers seem to be the same. No, it wasnt. Are are you going to search the silent and if not, why not . Given the gaps and Corporal Caulkins timeline, what you have had time to drive to this lake on either of the days belief bay or teren disappeared. If youre thinking about a twohour window and you know that this deputy has lied repeatedly about where he was and what he did on these days. Could he have gone into those woods . This is 2024. Thats right. But google earth has this feature where you can see what a place used to look like so if we zoom in to these imperial lakes, could a car really get back there . Well, right now, probably not. But lets go back to more of what used to look like especially right here, theres a road right to it cnn sent two emails to the Collier County Sheriffs Office inquiring about new searches of this area in november, they took action first with deputies, they used votes in atvs it over there, and then they went back a few weeks later with a search dog who might be able to find Human Remains. We wanted to be there, get a real sense of what they did and how they did it. But they didnt want that. What did they find . They say they found nothing . Theres not a lot of detail in the report they gave me a few minutes of edited video. If thats true, and they thoroughly searched and terence and philippe, their bones arent there. Maybe theres somewhere else do you think that terrence hes still alive. No you said that quickly. You really dont terrorists would go through hill and highwater define me Telephone Number is still the same. Yeah. No he wouldnt stay away from me this long no. No, his children i guess theres no. Thank you. Steps its friday night and chattanooga, tennessee. Terrence, his hometown until he moved to naples in 2003 terrence, his son, to wreak as an assistant High School Football coach at his alma mater he was just eight years old when his father disappeared. I think if he was here, i wouldnt have more knowledge. Again do you remember moments when you needed your father the most yeah. Dealing with girls, sports, football if the first time to rica spoken publicly about the disappearance do you remember what it was like the last time you saw him . Same routine. Ill be here when you wake up in the morning. I woke up to get ready for school. He went there the next day, onethird naibe not there turn to a month, year, just repeat him not being there is frustrated and then make you angry. Worker, he have gone what could have happened sometimes i just wanted to talk to the deadly so does april williams, terrences cousin she wears a necklace with his photo they always tell you what a person is like, but how people smile when they think of them now see your smile. Yeah, because thats my boy did you have any idea what had happened . Airbag was confused about why hes not a locked up or where is he . It was just ill just do so it was crazy i still emotional to this day we need just ounces sometimes i still do smell him or sometimes i may hear something i have to take a doubletake one dream is a huge party oh, the whole family is there oh yeah, hades. Last summer the family gathered for marcy, his Birthday Celebration was bittersweet what would justice look like to you here . The person that brought harm . His put away and may find in my son me find my son number one investigators say the mystery always leads back to the same place. The Deputy Sheriff who put Terrence Williams and Philippe Santos in the back of his patrol car and drove them away it seems deeply personal to you. It has become that over five years after yeah wondering, is there something i havent thought of . No one else has figured it out. The local investigators federal investigators, wrongful Death Lawsuit no ones been able to figure this out. This one just wont let me go i believe that they were murdered. I believe that their bodies were disposed of it is the most puzzling, frustrating, challenging case that ive ever had in 30 years as a prosecutor still the one i think about what we couldve done to give the family some peace and prosecute person that did this the Collier County Sheriffs Office, as the investigation is still open and ask anyone with information to contact them at the numbers on screen filmmaker tyler perry is offering a reward board of 200,000 for information leading to an arrest in these cases. Thanks for watching the whole story. Ill see you next sunday an inherent distrust of anything that comes from new jersey