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Former Special Counsel robert hur will soon be on the hot seat on capitol hill, defending not only his decision not to charge President Biden for his handling of classified documents, but also why he described the president as an elderly man with a poor memory who couldnt even remember his own sons death date. Cnn is now getting a look at the transcripts of the conversation between biden and her. That left the Special Counsel with that impression. According to the transcripts, President Biden was telling a story that he framed that was between the times of 2017 and 2018. During it, he brought up his son, beau, saying, quote, remember, in this time frame, my son is either deployed or is dying. He then went on to say, what month did beau die . Oh, god, biden responded. May 30th. Thats when someone in the room interjected to say, beau died in 2015. Not between 2017 and 18. Cnns evan perez has reviewed these transcripts. Evan, this is, you know, a really big moment because theres been a lot of talk. This has been a fodder for a lot of political fighting. You now have the actual words that were used. What else did you find in this report that related to bidens memory . Well, sir, i think the big takeaway from the report is that the president repeatedly said that he didnt really handle a lot of these papers, that he left it to staff. He didnt know how things were packed and how things were were moved from, for example, his Vice President ial residence to a home he rented in virginia to his home in wilmington. Repeatedly, he said, i dont remember exactly how that how that got moved from one place to another. And i think, you know, obviously the Special Counsel rob her, points out the memory problems. But the big one, obviously, that that stuck out was the one that you just read the interaction about beau biden. Its clear the president remembered the date exactly may 30th that his son died. But someone in the room then suggests the dates. And ill read you another part of the of the transcript, where you know where you could see that he has a foggy memory of where things happened. He rob, he asks the president , but do you remember how these materials got into this box, and how that box got into the garage, which was where one of these some of these documents were found . President biden says, no, i dont remember how it got. I dont remember how a beat up box got into the garage. The tone that we get from the transcript. And to be fair, we dont have the audio from the Audio Recording from the interview, which lasted about five hours, over five hours, over two days last october. Sarah, what we have is what ive read is simply just the transcript of it. And what comes across is, you know, an atmosphere where the president is joking with people in the room. Theres laughter. Its generally a pretty genial atmosphere, a very cooperative atmosphere, which is, i think, why the white house and people around the president were so surprised by the words that came out in that 388 page report from rob. Herb, i do want to ask you, because it is 388 pages, but theres also something in it about bidens handwritten notes. What can you tell us about that . Right. Well, this is a big part of this investigation, because its not only the classified documents that were found in the garage and in different places, including his private office after he left the vice presidency. But its also his handwritten notes. And those contain, according to the Special Counsel. According to the investigation, they do contain some very sensitive information. And so ill read you just one interaction from the second day of this interview, in which mark krichbaum, the deputy Special Counsel, says, okay, but i think it would be helpful for us to understand. And i think with respect to your notebooks that you wrote by hand, you view these as yours. President biden says, yes, theyre mine. But krichbaum says, and you were authorized to have them. President biden says, and every president before me has done the exact same thing. And i think thats going to be a big part of the discussion in todays hearings. Sarah, because president reagan took home notes when he left the presidency, he took notes that he took from while he was president. There was some controversy over that at the time. And President Biden is saying, you know, everything that i took, i was authorized to have and those are mine, obviously, the National Archives and i think some people in the federal government believe that that shouldnt be the case, because if you bring if you write notes while youre president , those belong to the archives and to the people of the united states. Sarah. Well, evan, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting. Again. This is the first time that weve really seen starkly exactly what was said between the Special Counsel and President Biden, john. And, of course, this comes as the now former Special Counsel, robert her, is going to testify on capitol hill this morning. He now has left the Justice Department. We learned he is testifying today as a private citizen. And not only that, he is hired as a personal attorney, someone who has represented prominent republican figures before, including folks in trump world and cnn, now has our hands on the Opening Statement. He will deliver. It is about five pages or so long. In it extensively, he goes into why he leaned into President Bidens memory here to explain why he did not bring charges. Lets get right to cnns chief Legal Affairs correspondent. Paula reid has got much more on what we can expect from robert her and if he wanted to take the temperature down here. Paula, i have to say this Opening Statement, im not sure its going to do that. Yeah. And you know what . In speaking to sources close to him over the past year covering this investigation, im not sure he cares if he, quote, takes the temperature down here. He views himself as not being partizan, as being a Special Counsel who is independent. And he knows that folks on both sides of the aisle are unhappy with him. John actually just got off the phone with a source close to her who talked to me a little bit about how hes preparing for the big day. And as you noted, he has hired a lawyer who has worked with former President Trump and his allies. And i want to note, though, before he left the Justice Department last week, the office of legislative affairs at the Justice Department actually helped him prepare for today. They did moot hearings. So these are practice arguments that is significant because its just another example of how he has received a support from the biden Justice Department. Now, once he left the Justice Department last week, he has continued to practice with his attorney and others for todays hearing, anticipating questions that hes going to get on both sides. They know that republicans are probably going to hammer him on why he opted not to charge biden. They will probably make some comparisons to the classified document prosecution of former President Trump. Her is going to be ready for that. He also knows that democrats are going to amplify these criticisms from the white house about comments he made about bidens memory. But as we see in his Opening Statement, he defends that saying, quote, he needed to show his work. Now, we also anticipate, according to the source, he will emphasize that he did not find President Biden, quote, innocent. Its just that he did not think that he could win at trial. Now, as you just heard evan perez talking about some of this, this new information coming out about the interview from biden, i asked the source about the timing for this new information, and they said, look, its clear the white house is concerned that under questioning her could potentially release new, possibly damaging Additional Details about the president. Theyre trying to get out in front of that. But the source again noted that the tape of that interview has not been released. So this is notable. And i also want to emphasize that the source did that, even though the white house is quite upset with her. A lot of democrats are. It was the Attorney General, the Biden Handpicked Attorney General Merrick Garland, who oversaw this investigation and clearly did not object to the contents of this report. Merrick garland had to read the report before it was released, and made public. So we know that to be true. And again, just his Opening Statement, robert, his Opening Statement will say the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue. It tees up what could be a contentious hearing. Paula reid will talk to you again. Thank you very much, sarah. Kate, i will take it my friend. A mystery maralago employee now speaking out about the classified Documents Case against donald trump. Why . Employee number five tells cnn the case against trump is not a witch hunt. And a new safety audit into boeings Production Lines finds dozens of problems, including using the same dish soap that you may have in your kitchen as lubricant for door seals. And minutes from now, the latest check on what you are spending at the Grocery Store and also at the gas pump and spending in general. What are prices going up for consumers or down . What happens to the golden boy of new jersey . I engaged in an affair with another man. Did you want to be outed . United states of scandal with jake tapper. 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President bidens interview with then Special Counsel robert, her and Hers Investigation into bidens handling of classified documents. Here is cnns reporting of the transcript. Ill read you some of it. Ask where he kept papers that he was working on. Biden began a Story Framing the context as the 2017 2018 era. The president brought up his son, beau, who he said had encouraged him to remain politically engaged. Remember, in this time frame, my son is either deployed or is dying, biden said, according to the transcript. The president brought up his sons death, and he remembered the month and day. What month did beau die . Oh, god, may 30th, several people in the room interjected to remind him that his son died in 2015. Now, robert, he also determined that there was not evidence enough to win a conviction on the documents. Question. That was the key of the investigation. No charges were recommended. Her will address all of this when he testifies this morning before a House Committee in his Opening Statement. As cnn has obtained, hes expected to say this the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue. Also saying his task was to determine if the president willfully retained or disclose National Defense information with the intent to do something the law forbids. Her will add. According to the Opening Statement. I could not make that determination without assessing the president s state of mind. Joining us now is democratic senator chris. He serves on the Senate Foreign relations and judiciary committees. Hes also national cochair for the bidenharris reelection campaign. Senator, thank you so much for being here. What is your reaction to what ive laid out there . Cnns reporting on the actual transcript of the president s interview with her, and also his commentary about bidens memory that hes supposed that he will be bringing up in his Opening Statement this morning. Kate, look, i think what really matters here about this whole kerfuffle is that at the end of the day, former President Donald Trump is facing 40 Felony Counts in a federal action because of his mishandling of federal classified documents. While President Joe Biden has been cleared all the back and forth about the commentary by the Special Counsel, i think at the end of the day has been put to rest by President Bidens forceful and compelling state of the Union Address on thursday, which makes it clear that the stray comments by a Special Counsel and a report really dont amount to much compared to the underlying reality that President Biden has deep respect for. The classified document process fully cooperated, and his predecessor did not, per says that he called it like he saw it in his investigation. He did, and he says that he did not disparage the president unfairly. His report as you note, highlights that there was a is a material distinction between the two investigations of trump and Biden On Classified documents. Thats an understatement to say a material distinction one charging a former president with 40 Felony Quotes and the other clears the current president. Yes, thats a material distinction, kate. No, senator, for clarity, im quoting how he put it in the report. So thats why i understand material distinction. Certainly, given that and given all of this added together, the fact of the matter is, robert, he is coming before this committee. Hes going to face questions about all aspects of this, for sure. And it also does highlight that he was hes now a former Special Counsel, but he became a Special Counsel because the Attorney General put him in place. Given all of this and what you know now, do you wish that Attorney General Merrick Garland had not put him, put him in as Special Counsel or any Special Counsel . Look, i thats a hypothetical that i think is best answered this way. President biden has shown over and over his respect for the independence of the Department Of Justice, for the independence of the Attorney General. Attorney general Merrick Garland has run his Department Of Justice in a way that shows his commitment to independence, appointing a former Trump Administration official, robert her, to be the Special Counsel. In this particular case, and in many other ways, President Biden has shown that hes maintained an arms length distance from the Attorney General and the Department Of Justice in sharp distinction with the former president , who repeatedly pressured the Attorney General and the Department Of Justice to act as if it were his own personal legal department. We have a president today who understands and respects the obligations of the office to treat classified documents in a different way, and at the end of the day, this report and i expect the testimony that mr. Her will deliver today in the house will reinforce that sharp distinction between President Biden, who puts our security first, and former President Trump, who doesnt. That hearing is going to get underway very soon. Cnn is going to bring it to everyone live. I also want to ask you, you recently, you were recently on a trip overseas, and i want to ask you about President Bidens recent comments on israels war against hamas. The president called a Military Offensive in rafah a red line. In an interview this weekend, he said in the next breath, though, that hes never going to leave israel. Hes not going to cut off all weapons to israel. Do you want President Biden drawing red lines with israel . Look, heres what i said to Prime Minister netanyahu when i met with him in israel just a few weeks ago, that he needs to understand the balance between having american support for continuing the campaign against hamas to restore a sense of deterrence and security to the israeli people after the horrific attack of october 7th, and his obligation to provide for civilian protection. That means if he sends a massive Troop Offensive of idf soldiers into rafah without providing any way for civilians to get out of the way of that combat, that would be, for me, something that israel should not do, and would, for the very first time, lead me to discuss Conditioning Aid to israel. That is the last thing on earth i want to do. I want to see us get a hostage deal. Im wearing this Yellow Ribbon today because later this morning, kate , im meeting with a father of an americanisraeli hostage who is still being held beneath gaza by hamas. This crisis in gaza could end tomorrow. If hamas lay down their arms and release the hostages. But this is a war, a war between israel and hamas. And President Biden is trying to balance showing deep concern for the civilians who are suffering and in many cases, now starving in gaza and Prime Minister netanyahu and the far right wing elements of his government members, ministers like smotrich and bengvir, who have made it very difficult to get humanitarian aid into gaza. President biden is trying to do the best in a very difficult circumstance. Red line is, you know, carries a lot of weight to that statement. I dont need to remind you of when president obama drew a red line in syria, and the fallout from that, the red line is what . And if the red line is crossed, it leads to what i think thats for President Biden to communicate privately to our valued ally, israel. What is it for you . Important for me, making no provision for humanitarian aid or for civilians to lead rafah to leave rafah, there are more than a million relocated civilians who have fled to rafah at the idfs direction, as they carried out attacks against hamas that have flattened civilian infrastructure from all over the rest of the gaza strip. So there is no way to carry out a campaign a Military Campaign at scale against for hamas Battalion In Rafah without massive civilian casualties. If you dont allow for them to leave. In my meeting with Prime Minister netanyahu, he said, i understand that, and we are getting a plan from the army for how we will relocate civilians before that offensive. I think its important to keep clear that distinction. I am in no way saying that israel should stop its campaign against hamas. 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This former Special Counsel now, before members of congress, and hes defending his decision not to charge President Biden and doing so, he really leans into why he brought up brought up the president s memory. What do you see here . I see Special Counsel hard trying to speak out of both sides of his mouth here in one side and he says, he suggested he has evidenced that from President Biden committed a crime, saying that he willfully there was evidence that he willfully retain documents. But then what he does though, is admit what the actual law says. Ripple willful retention is, which is to hold these documents back and to know that you are doing something thats against the law, which he does does it admit he did not have evidence for Beyond A Reasonable Doubt . So hes conflating what willful retention means. Its not merely knowing you have documents, its not merely forgetting where you put documents is having them knowing you have them and knowing that a virus, a law which he he admits himself that the President Biden did not do is his is page two of the Opening Statement here. He says, we identified evidenced that the president willfully retain classified materials after the end of his presidency. But then in the very next paragraph, he says, we did not, however, identify evidence that rose to the level of proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. Is there anything wrong with saying we found some evidence, but it wasnt Strong Enough to prosecute well, i think there is because the evidence he points to you as a reference to President Biden noting that there were classified documents in his basement or something else. Theres nothing in there that talks about knowledge that having those documents there was against the law. You have that when it comes to former President Trump, that he had documents he was asked to return the documents. His lawyers were engaged in negotiating the return of these documents. Thats not whats happening here. So i think theres a big distinction here and it does appear to me that mr. Harish trying to purposely conflict this, which frankly, without Casting Aspersions seems to be in the, in the partisan realm. Jessica so the most important part of the Opening Statement, like the most important part of the report, is that he didnt find proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that former President Biden when he was out of office, retained National Security information, knowing that he had it and that it was against the law to do so. Thats the lead and it should continue to be the lead. There was insufficient proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that he knew he had this material and that he retained that knowing it was against the law that gratuitous information about his impressions about bidens memory. It shouldnt have been in the report and it shouldnt be in the Opening Statement. I think hes Feeling Defensive about it. Thats the best way to cast this. I think thats why hes repeating here. You said gratuitous. What his his defense of that seems to be. My task was to determine whether the president retained or disclose National Defense information willfully, meaning knowingly, thats a standard time you just laid out there. And with the intent to do something law forbids i could not make that determination without assessing the president s state of mind. For that reason, i had to consider the president s memory and overall mental state. I dont think that thats true. I think that he had plenty to work with based on the information that was available to him about bidens infirm is knowledge at the time in question when he was out of office and whether biden knew what he had in his office and whether he had any intent to violate the law. Hers impressions about bidens memory today, during the interview really doesnt bear all that much on the information that was available about that moment in time from witnesses, from the Tape Recording of the interview with the ghost writer really was not, notwithstanding what he says today, necessary sara this doesnt seem like a lawyer backing off though the issue of the memory as he prepares to testify, does it know he doesnt seem to be backing off on it. And as i said, i think hes aware that hes been criticized for including it. And so the question is going to be, how much of todays testimony is about this issue and how much is it about . As i said, the more important finding that there wasnt proof beyond a reasonable lets talk about the Documents Case against former President Trump here. The one that has been charged in this case, Kaitlan Collins spoke to brian butler, who is a maralago employee, who says he believed he moved classified documents around maralago and out of maralago, listen to what he told kaitlan did the two of you ever talk about moving boxes or looking back on that . Yeah. I mean, there was one time towards one of the last times i was with them and were talking about boxes and while biden did the same thing, you know, you cant get it always have got brought up about biden and other people that did the same thing. And then there was one time we said were all dirty, we all move boxes and i said, well, look, i didnt even know what i was moving until i was at the plane and thats when i remember moving both to be clear, butlers not talking about a conversation he had with donald trump there. Hes talking about a conversation he had with another maralago employee, but in a different part of the conversation, its something i was hoping you would all here. He says he moved boxes like the ones that weve now all seen as part of the Special Counsel report from jack smith into donald trump. So what do you take . Get away from his interview with kaitlan and his possible testimony in a trial. I think whats clear is that jack smith has an incredibly strong case in a Documents Case. I mean, there are numerous witnesses and frankly, books speaking is former federal prosecutors. You have at all you have evidence of the president s men dreyer, his mental state. You have coconspirators and evidence of actual statements. You have obstruction, which is incredibly helpful because it paints the picture for the jury. Only. You knew what was wrong when you did it. But the fact that you cover up the crime shows what you say to my mind was i think its going to be a really strong case how sector you, if youre jack smith to have this guy on cnn yesterday, well, thats interesting. Actually, i was thinking now that hadnt because youd normally, you dont want your witnesses. Do we go on tv before the trial . Anything they say can be used as crossexamination material. He says anything inconsistent on cnn with what he ultimately says. Im a trial that said hes a really powerful witness based on what we saw yesterday, and he comes across as having absolutely no ax to grind with the former president. Unlike say Michael Cohen right . And really powerful testimony, it takes us inside maralago and the relationships there, as well as moving the documents. So as a preview for how that witness is going to hold up and how hes going to come across on the stand. I if i were jack smith. Jack smith from that perspective, i think i would be happy with that performance. All right. A whole lot going on today. Thank you both so much for being sara. All right new Economic Data out right now, Inflation Rates not going in the Direction Economists had hoped in february, they rose slightly just under half a Percentage Point to an annual rate of 3. 2 in the midst of an Election Year stamping out inflation. A bit of a rough go. Cnns vanessa okay, but just joining us now, what do these numbers tell us . This is not the direction that people wanted to see inflation going. We want to be moving in the opposite direction, but a slight increase year over year ticking up to 3. 2 month over month, up 0. 4 . Thats largely where economists thought we would be because weve been seeing increasing gas its prices thats actually the largest monthly gain weve seen since september. But when we look at inflation, we need to sort of step back and realize that although these numbers have increased, this is going to be a bumpy road down to the feds target rate of 2 . Theyve said it themselves. But look at where we came from. We were at 9 while in 2022, were still above 3 . We really want to be below that. But we have made progress, but really leading this monthly increase gas and shelter. Shelter has always been a pain point for americans. Its the most amount of money that youre spending every single month shelter up 0. 4 . Good news for food prices, flats. So good news at the Grocery Store for americans. But look at gas prices up 3. 8 . We know that in just the last couple of months, gas prices have gone from about 03 07 a gallon to 340 not great for americans, and not great for President Biden, who wants to see all of these prices come down for americans during an Election Year, every single penny, every second counts. Its vanessa yurkevich. Thank you so much. Appreciate it a sweet spot to preventing an allout nato war with putin while making sure he is defeated in ukraine. Retired joint chiefs chairman general mark milley says there is one, there is this sweet spot, and this is now being revealed in the new book by cnn anchor and chief National Security analyst, Jim Sciutto Gyms joining us now for more on this. And jim, your book is out today. If i am not mistaken, the return of great powers, russia, china, and the new world. And the next world war tell us more about your conversation with milley. What this sweet spot is . So this is notable at the time he was still the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Now, of course, he is step step down, but he was saying in effect, what ive heard often in private, but hes saying it in public here and that is that its some point there has to be a settlement to end this war because really no one or very few people believe that either side is going to be defeated on the battlefield. What he describes the sweet spot, let me quote him more fully here he says, you have to find the sweet spot by ensuring that putin doesnt win in an illegal war of aggression. But at the same time hes not provoked in the escalating the war into a war with nato or the united states. He goes on to say this, and this is particularly notable in order to have a successful negotiation, theres that word negotiation again, you have to somehow address both sets of National Security and securities or anxiety. So you have to somehow convince the russians that nato is not going to invade ukraine is not going to be part of nato. And that they shouldnt fear invasion from the west, that sort of thing ukraine, not part of nato, because you, kate, like me and others watching this broadcast now have heard so often from the leaders of nato allies, from us leaders and others that at some Point Ukraine will be part of nato. Therell be a path to nato. Ukraine belongs in nato, but here you have the then chairman of the joint chiefs saying, i dont see how that works because one, it will tie nato to go into war with russia if russia were to it were to invade ukraine again, and it would so scare russia that they would never come to the table well, so theyre looking for some sort of middle arrangement. They often talk about an Israel Type Arrangement where you dont have an explicit mutual defense treaty, but everyone knows, you will come to that nations defenses as best you can. Its, its a notable Public Comment from him it is. Milley calls milley talks about as a sweet spot, but it also very clearly its threading and a very difficult needle for sure. I heard you talk a little bit about this last night. I had to ask you again, you spoke to many members of trumps National Security team other foreign leaders, and you write about their reaction in the book interactions if. You will, with trump and his admiration for the putins of the world and even how he talks about hitler yeah, its remarkable. Its appalling. And now here i am talking to general john kelly trumps own chief of staff, a retired marine general, who was just appalled to hear theres a then president of the united states, describe how in his words, this is trumps words. Putin did some, sorry. Hitler did some good things that the man who started world war ii, the man behind the holocaust and kellys reaction i think is telling, he says, its pretty hard to believe he missed the holocaust speaking of trump, and pretty hard to understand how he missed the 400,000 american gis that were killed in the european theater. But i think its more again, the tough guy thing. So him describing how a us president in effect on the wrong side of that war, right . And any ties that to trumps broader, often public praise of the xis, the putins, the kims, the, or bonds or the world its ingrained in trumps worldview and just some of what youve gleaned and game for all of your amazing reporting that you put in this new book. Its great to see you, jim, thanks for jumping on. Jim sciuttos book, the great, the return of great powers out today, john write a massive screaming chaotic people. That is how one american dr. Describes his experience working in a war zone and were now just minutes away from former Special Counsel robert hur testified before congress about his decision not to charge President Biden for his handling of classified documents were getting new information about what he will say and how he plans not to make anyone happy were here to get your side of the store. Why do we keep ending up here . You cant write this stuff. 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This 14 yearold says he was recruited at 11 david culver, cnn and we do have Breaking News to report the idf has Just Announced the death of a hostage that it was hoped was still alive in being held in gaza, dual us israeli citizen he tai hen, it was thought that he was alive still and being held captive by hamas. But now israel reports he was killed on october 7 cnns Jeremy Diamond is joining me, joining us now. What more is the idf saying this is horrible news is his parents were so outspoken about trying to fight to get the hostages released they were outspoken. They have been fighting every single day to raise awareness about their sons captivity to try and secure his release through the Israeli Government, through the american government, basically through any avenue that they could. And so today, obviously this is devastating news for that family. A tayfun, a 19yearold israeli soldier, a dual American Israeli citizen, according to the idf, was killed on october 7. His body was taken into gaza and his body is still the israelis the military says, being held hostage by hamas, he was one of six americans believed to be held alive by hamas. That number now down to five for americans, including a tai fen, are believed to be dead and their bodies also believed to be held by hamas. At this moments when we talk about the family and the fight that they have been leading to try and secure their sons release. I spent some time with you thai fans, mother highgate, as we were flying to the hague in the netherlands, where she was part of a group of 100 members of Hostage Families who were pushing its a File A Complaint to urge the icc to basically a file charges against hamas is leaders. She told me that she dreamed of her son a lot. She dreamed of the day when he would come back to her saying that she believed that it would be as part of a Hostage Agreement as part of negotiations that she dreamed of . Seeing him in a red cross van waving to me. She said smiling because he always had a big smile on his face and he will say, im okay, why are you worried so much those dreams today dashed okay. Jeremy thank you for your reporting right next to your image is the image of a tie that weve all becomes so familiar with as the fight for his release had continued. Now, we have this news today, jeremy. Thank you sarah all right. This morning is ship carrying pallets of much needed aid has left cyprus and is headed to gaza. The aid is from world central kitchen, but a Top Health Official says the Humidity Hearing Aid entering Northern Gaza is quote, not enough for anyone more than 1 million displaced people have fled to rafah in southern gaza. They are living with severe shortages of food, water, medicine, and shelter. Retired obstetrician, dr. Michael grady saw firsthand the dire can additions people are facing after spending nearly five weeks there in rafa working on patients delivering emergency medical care. Thank you so much for joining us, dr. Grady. I really appreciate your time. You were stationed there, as we said, for roughly five weeks give us some sense of what you see, what you experienced as you were trying to just do your job in these difficult circumstances yeah. Good morning. Yeah. Its just horrendous worse than you could imagine, worse than you can see on a film because, what you dont get on newsreels that on films or the background screaming, you dont get the smells, you dont get the dust. Its really an awful, awful situation can you give us some sense of where you were and how you were operating . Were you inside tents . Where you inside the hospital. What are the conditions . Yes so i worked with the iaea International Medical corps and in early january, we set up a Field Hospital sort of halfway between eunice and rafa they are if you would like, a mash unit. We had a series of ten set were connected to each other there was an outpatient ten, there was an Emergency Room ten. Then we had an inpatient ten set would hold 50 people. And of course, we soon had upscale that. We now have tents that will hold 140 people. We had Operating Rooms intensive care so it was it was very, very intense and ive done this kind of work for many, many years and this is the most intense situation that ive been we are seeing some of your video that was taken there while you were trying to do your work inside 10th with Emergency Medicine . I have to ask you what what was the availability of medical supplies . Its been a lot of talk about how the jeff not enough food, not enough clean water. And especially medical supplies. What did you experience there . What did you see so if you just imagine how many people that we were seeing, you know, we thought maybe we would see 20 or 30 people, a day in the Emergency Department and maybe 100 people a day in the Outpatient Department. Within days, we were seeing 234. Now were seeing 600 patients a day when the Outpatient Department and sometimes 30 people will show up from a mass casualty event in the Emergency Room at one time. And so now were seeing well over 100 people a day through the Emergency Room to put it in perspective, in one week, we gave out 20,000 tylenol. So you can imagine when it takes to resupply that. And in the efforts for resupply, so theres always a constant shortage of Critical Medicines is a constant shortage of pretty much every supply. But we make due with what we have you do what you have to do. And i know the people there have. Thank you. Profusely for that. I do want to ask you about a move by the Israeli Government saying that its military is planning an assault on rafa. What, what does that going to mean . Because you talk about all these tents that are sort of put there to try to deal with Emergency Medicine whats that going to mean if and when that assault happens of course, im not a politician, im a dr. But i can say that we will scale up. We will we will provide the care that that we do. And it continued to do it. You know, we were used to working in conflict zones. Weve been doing this for 40 years and we will do, we have to do dr. Michael grady. Thank you so much for the work that you did there to try to save lives and for taking the time out this morning to be with us a new hour of Cnn News Central begins now cnn Breaking News heres the quote, the evidence and the president himself put his memory squarely at issue. That is what the now former Special Counsel, robert hur, is expected to say when he gets into the hot seat on capitol hill at the top of the hour. That is when this begins and lawmakers will be questioning her on his decision to not recommend charges against President Biden over his handling of classified documents and her will also face questions about his decision to describe the president and his final report as an elderly man with a poor memory her also now learning exactly what biden said when that Special Counsel, bob hur, interviewed him, including a section in which the president appeared to forget what year