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Well hear from the man who was a key witness in the maralago classified documents investigation tonight. Here, what he has to say about moving trumps boxes of classified documents. Plus, he is a Software Engineers hired by Trumps Campaign to find voter fraud. And he found none. Give you all the details tonight as hes warning this evening, trump will try to overturn the election again if he doesnt win, therell be my guest this hour and a passenger on that terrifying flight, the plummeted midair. Speaking out says bodies were flying everywhere hitting the ceiling he leaving blood like a scene from the exorcist. Lets go outfront and good evening. Im erin burnett, outfront tonight. We begin with the breaking news, trumps employee number five, speaking out, the man who was only been known as trump employee number five in the classified documents indictment from jack smith revealing his life identity, explaining for the first time how we help move classified documents for trump his name is brian butler, a long time chauffeur to trumps family. Butler spent about 20 years working for trump and he claims it was on june 3, 2022, when trumps personal aide, walt nauta, the name may be familiar, asked him if he could borrow butlers suv be to move luggage from maralago to the former president s personal plane that date is the same date that trumps attorneys met with the fbi Touring A Basement Storage Room to look for documents. Its the same day they signed a document saying they hunted for additional papers and found few butler telling Kaitlan Collins that the luggage he moved included the white bankers boxes in jack smiths indictment they were the boxes that were in the indictment. The white bankers boxes. Thats what i remember loading and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially Us National Security secrets in his box and no clue. No. I had no clue. I mean, we were just taking them out of the escalate, piling them up. I remember they were all stacked on top of each other and then were lifting them up to the pilots now, butler says he debated going public for months and only recently decided to speak out because he believes that voters should hear the truth about his former boss and the case before the november election. And butlers role in all of this didnt end there. He was also involved in conversations about allegedly trying to destroy evidence of a crime at maralago according to jack smiths indictment, maralago property manager, carlos de oliviera also told trump employee number five, which of course we now know is brian butler, that not want to do all of era to talk to trump employee number four, to see how long camera footage was stored. And we have a lot to get to tonight. I want to get to kaitlan polantz, who has been working on this story with her sources to help break it. Shes outfront live near maralago and kaitlan. What more are you learning from butler we are in it is quite clear from what ryan butler has to say publicly now and also what he spoke to prosecutors about many times is that he is a window, a witness to to the alleged obstruction. The allegations against donald trump, walt nauta, and Carlos De Olivera, that there was a coverup for trump because trump did not want to give those classified documents back to the federal government. That is no more apparent that its so obviously a in the indictment in that hes listed as trump employee five, and then he is also in speaking to Kaitlan Collins, able to say about how he had this longtime friendship with carlos de oliviera, the third person who is a defendant with trump. And that friendship broke down the very last line in the indictment. Men against all three of these men, including donald trump, when prosecutors are describing what happened, there, is they describe a moment where brian butler was with carlos de oliviera and gets outreach from the other codefendant, walt nauta, asking brian butler, is carlos loyal . Is he going to remain loyal to trump . Butler assures him, yes, he will. This is my friend. He doesnt want to do anything to hurt his relationship with donald trump. And then trump calls carlos de oliviera directly butler in his conversation with Kaitlan Collins earlier today, describe that taking place on a trip, a Birthday Celebration that he was having with his dear Friend Carlos De Oliviera when that call came in from donald trump. Heres a little more of what he said he takes the call where were standing in the food court. I think we went to sit down and he i cant remember how long the conversation was, but i know at the end of the conversation when they hung up, carlo said hes gonna get me an attorney did he tell you Anything Else that trump said to him . I didnt ask and i dont remember him saying Anything Else, but you know, i was just told not that long, not too long before were getting him an attorney by walt and then he gets the call that hes going to give them the Internet Aaron so thats the last line in the narrative of the indictment, but the beginning of the end of the friendship of Carlos De Olivera and brian butler now, they do not speak anymore. Carlos de oliveira is charged with making a false statement to the fbi, is headed to trial alongside donald trump. Brian butler is here speaking publicly and not using notably, an attorney within the trump legal universe, erin. All right. Kaitlan. Thank you very much. And i want to go now to ryan goodman, our legal analyst, stephanie grisham, the former Trump White House press secretary and david axelrod. Of course, the former Senior Adviser to president obama so ryan butler, a 20 year employee of the trumps, right, who knows the habits, knows the proclivities knows what moves when coming out and talking about all these boxes, how important is the information . Russian that he is providing in this case seems to be incredibly important. He is a direct witness and participant in a large part of the activities that are indicted. And so hes there when theyre talking about information that would be about deleting the Video Footage that to hide it from the fbi. And the grand jury as alleged in the indictment hes there when they are loading trumps plane with the boxes before the fbi arrives at maralago, same day you find and to collect the documents thats huge. And he has no ax to grind. He seems have had a Good Relationship with the Trump Organization with trump himself for 20 years, and his best friends with now the other codefendants. So it seems to be theres just telling that the truths that he has an that could be very powerful. And david butler told cnn that hes speaking publicly now because he believes voters should hear the truth before the november election. Obviously, the way that this case is moving right now from a legal perspective, it would appear very unlikely that we get that decision before the election that we know. So it may only be and just more snippets of individuals choose to speak out. Do you think this makes a difference to voters . Look i think at the margins, maybe i think that people who are paying attention to it will. But a couple of things about this. One is theres a reason why the president is lawyers are working so hard to delay these trials. Theyre trying to push them off past november because they understand that this case. The facts are very, very clear convictions would be damaging and erase that is marginal and could cost them the election. So theyre pushing this off. The second thing is tomorrow we have the her hearings and those are i think one of the reasons that the republicans are leaning so hard into all of this isnt just to talk about the question of age that her raised, but they want to muddy the waters. And you can see on social media, its like in reaction to this story, people saying, you know, biden did it, trump, did it, trump gets indicted. Thats his narrative. So im not sure that this alone will influence events if this thing goes to trial, his Testimony Shore could write, it is important as you note though, that her which is the biden classified documents handling special counsel, but that is gonna be tomorrow. Stephanie, let me play another exchange though, that butler had with kaitlan. Listen to this did you ever think to yourself, why were there so many boxes at maralago for me, im just thinking out of the former president and he has a lot of stuff he likes the lug around with them and stephanie, i see youre smiling. I mean, you know, the lay of the random lay of the land around trump does that sort of rang true to you . I mean, was this a constant sort of shifting and moving of boxes like this . Absolutely. I felt that that a lot of what he said ring true in the boxes was certainly one of them. I mean, all throughout our time at the white house, he would have his boxes there. There was brown boxes, but if we didnt get these specific boxes on every plane, on every air force, one on marine one, there would be held to pay. So he did like his boxes. Now, there were only two or three of them and there were newspaper clippings. It was not, you know, ten to 15 boxes as brian has said, you know, another thing i want to say is that, you know, the Mob Mentality really rang true to me. He called him the boss, which is what we all called him. There were the Loyalty Tests again, i mean, that happened to all of us. These Loyalty Tests and then lastly, ill just say this guys got nothing to gain right now. I can say, as somebody whos with them all the time for six years and who has spoken out as well . Hes going to get attacked by the right. Hes going to become a disgruntled lower level employee and hes hes lost really good lifelong friends, which is something i can completely sympathize with. So i think thats something for people to think through is that hes not gaining anything from doing this. Brian, youre nodding oh, sorry. I completely agree. I think that it makes complete sense as to why he would come out now, publicly because it does look like its never going to go to trial. And he does want to explain to people why in his view, this is not a witch hunt its real. And just to go back to something, david said, i do think tomorrow were going to hear from the special counsel, her and the hearings at the house side about his report on bidens handling of classified documents, but it is important to remember that in hurs report, he actually says that the trump case is much worse than biden, and he actually says things that now we have mr. Butler talking about the ways in which trump tried to hide the documents from the government, putting him on a plane. Instead, and trying to delete footage. Theres nothing like that in the hur report, right . No. I mean, the deleting Footage Aspect of this and that separate that all of that. Its still sort of defies the imagination, although i know not your imagination, stephanie, i mean, all of this even, even the phone call with that you heard butler just talking about on vacation together and trump calls and offers to get them a lawyer that that also rings true to you absolutely. Again, its kind of this Mob Bunker Mentality that we will pay for your lawyer. We will take care of you. You stick with us and no one can touch you. Again, this guy i assume is paying for his own attorney or maybe his attorneys doing it in kind, but its scary and it cost you a lot money to speak out as being a lot of money, david, theres less of it, not so much at the rnc because it comes all of these developments as trumps having trouble fundraising. Weve just found out, but the rnc is doing mass layoffs, cutting vendor contracts, and that this is in a much greater sense than would happen with a normal change in leadership at the rnc, which they are going through, of course, with trump he was daughterinlaw now running it as someone whos been on the front line of a campaign. How serious could this funds issue be i think very, i mean, money is very, very important in campaigns. Its how you need that money to pay for organization. You need that money to get your message out. I would expect that some of these organizations russian supporting the president as well as the president s campaign are going to start a sustained attack on trump in the next several weeks, certainly within months. And he doesnt have the air defenses now to respond to that so it is it is a big deal that they dont have money and im sure one of the reasons theyre making all these cuts is to try and divert as much money as they can to the operations in the states which are starving and to media all right. Thank you all very much. I appreciate it next to stark warning from the man, the Trump Campaign hired to find Election Fraud. That was his job to show them all of the prod just show the country and he did he looked and looked and looked and he found nothing. But he does say he knows what trump will do if he loses. Again, hes my guest next plus a rare sighting of Kate Middleton after admitting that are first postsurgery family photo was dr. 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And he was paid to investigate multiple claims of Election Fraud for example, like if dead people voting impacted the election, can look, he did not find proof of that same thing for non citizens voting in the, voting in the election. Also, voters who voted in two states, or voters who voted twice in the same state, mail ballots being requested fraudulently, every single thing that you may have heard of over these years, every single one of them can block looked into, ran down and found no proof that any impact of the election in ken is now outfront. He is the author of the brand new book disproven My Unbiased Search for voter fraud for the Trump Campaign. The data that shows why he lost and how we can improve our elections and can you and ive been speaking over the past year a privately and also youve been on the show before. But the bottom line of all of this, i was just listing through dead people to states ballot you looked into all of it. We looked in the swing states. In particular, we looked at every registered voter to determine who was deceased and who wasnt we looked as best as we could for every mail ballot cast in the 2020 election that included the swing states to see if we could find evidence that those voters also voted at another state. We found small amounts of that fraud. We found nothing that rose to the level of being able to change an election result. And its really important that people understand that although there was some fraud, it wasnt enough and the claims of voter fraud that were hearing, just dont have a foundation in truth. All right. So lets go through just a few of them so that youre going overall and you looked into all of those. But lets lets delve into a couple in wisconsin, for example, eric trump emails a lawyer from the Trump Campaign who had hired you i his name happens to be alex cannon, so eric trump emails him in early december of 2020. Can you look into a claim that more than 700,000 people voted twice and wisconsin, that is. Can we just stop for a second . 700,000 people voting twice in one state. That was the claim. Next morning, can and forwards it to you. Hey, can your problem can you . You look into this it only took you a few hours curfew this one down but you call this by far the wildest of all the claims that yeah. How they react when you told them within hours that this was a bunch of this was near the end of a month of doing this sort of thing. And when qanon called me to tell me about the specifics of this when he asked me to look at it, he told me he said can tell me why this is wrong. And so he knew that this wasnt going to be true. And what had happened was some people got really excited. They misinterpreted the data they looked at, came up with a wild finding, wanted the Department Of Justice to come in and i guess start arresting people in wisconsin . And the reality was they misinterpreted the information it went from the people who did the analysis to a golfer to the manager of a trump golf course, to eric trump, to alex cannon to me. And thats just the insanity that was happening at the time. Okay so the birthday problem the this is another one, another fraud claims. So john eastman, who obviously was at the center of the fake elector scheme, he claimed more than 16,000 people in nevada voted in nevada and in another state and is evidenced was that they had the same name and same birthday. So thats why they voted in two different states. You look into that and you find yeah. So theres a wellknown the problem that hospitals struggle with. Big hospitals have the same problem you do when looking at voter data. Its not impossible for two people to share the same name. And the exact same date of birth you get large enough group of people together that happens because how many john smiths do you know, right . I mean, there we have some really common names in this country and what people frequently in the mistake they made when looking at voter data and trying to match up the information and voter data, they will look at the name and the date of birth and go, well, we have a match but that matches wrong 90 of the time. That is incredible just for people to realize, right . That thats statistically, that can happen because you can hear it and say that does sound wrong. But then the statistics of course are what are what our reality. You mentioned at the outset of this conversation though, that there was fraud, just it was diminimus, it wasnt upturn the election. Okay. We all know that thats a fact. However, nobody wants any fraud. And i know you do believe that there are ways to improve elections absolute, that you would think that democrats and republicans could agree on like what yeah so im gonna give you some information that will blow your mind in the state of new york hundreds of people voted in 2020, whose date of birth was either 1,818, 50, or 1,900, all of which are impossible, impossibly old in new jersey, there were thousands like that in new york state. There are thousands with those birthdays jeder just registered in new jersey. There are Tens Of Thousands new york has a bigger problem there are millions of voters who voted in 2020 that the state cant identify because they dont have Social Security numbers or drivers licenses for those voters. These are problems that other states dont have. States like nevada and Georgia Have Excellent quality voter data new jersey and new york dont, they can, but they have to make the effort to clean things up. So these are the things that i think we really need to get to the bottom of. And its an important conversation for us to have in this country. Well, it certainly has because i think we can all agree that hgh hasnt gotten us to the point where someone born in 1,800 would still be alive, correct. All right. Thank you very much. Can i appreciate it . Hope everyone will read this and focus. I know you go through so many of the detailed examples. Thank you. Thank you. And next breaking news, a new Us Intelligence assessment tonight, finding the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is viability as a leader may be in jeopardy. The more israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett will be with me to respond. Plus a rare apology from the royal family after princess kate, who has not been seen in months, takes responsibility for releasing a dr. Family photo so what is going on . The source with Kaitlan Collins tonight at nine beautiful. 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We received this latest Audio Message from mahmoud shalabi, who he had been speaking to since the start of the war. There is no food to sell. I have seen a man in the market buying a very crappy type of grasp and given to children and i remember him saying this is for your breakfast and lunch. So make sure you. You calculate your portions properly because i have nothing left. And this is your food for the day Clarissa Ward is outfront live from jerusalem and clarissa, what more can you tell us about whats happening inside gaza tonight well, we heard today erin, from cindy mccain, the director of the world food program, and she warned that famine is quote, imminent in northern gaza. If the amount out of aid getting in does not increase exponentially, she went on to say that there would need to be 300 trucks a day going into gaza in order to begin to meet the needs of the people and just to give you a sense of what the figures are yesterday, 225 trucks successfully entered gaza. Today though, just 100 and trucks entered gaza and a big part of the problem here, erin, is that even the ones that do go into gaza are having real trouble getting into northern gaza. She had also mentioned said she said that airdrops are not practical. That road food is the best way to get things in. She also mentioned ships. We had been waiting for a ship to leave cyprus, was supposed to leave yesterday with uae aid on board. The cyprus coast guard coming out and saying that has been delayed for practical reasons, it should happen soon, but really cant underscore for enough air in that time is really running out for the people of gaza. Just today, we heard from gazas Health Authorities that another two children died as a result of acute malnutrition and dehydration at the kamal adwan hospital. Thats Services Northern gaza clarissa, there have been hopes of a ceasefire that there would be a ceasefire reached with the beginning of ramadan. Where does that stand those hopes seem to have largely faded. Talks are continuing, but we saw last night, which was the first night of ramadan, more than 60 people were killed inside gaza and strikes according to gazas health ministry, that continues throughout the day. The real concern of course, erin, is what happens with rafah, if you remember this had been what biden President Biden called a red line. Prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, doubling down in an interview today saying that he would go ahead with the operation, but Us Intelligence seems to be that it does not appear the data that would be imminent, they havent seen the sort of movements on the ground that they would expect to see to indicate that such a thing would be eminent. Erin. Clarissa. Thank you very much. A live from israel tonight and outfront now, the former israeli Prime Minister, Naftali Bennett and Prime Minister, i appreciate your time tonight. Its good to see you again. I know youre here just for another day or so before youre back in israel . The Us Intelligence committee assessment, which just shared a moment ago, says that netanyahus viability as a leader may be in jeopardy that massive protests even more massive than prior demanding his resignation are expected. Do you agree with the Us Intelligence assessment well, i think you israels vibrant democracy and its no secret that theres massive unrest and israel, visavis the political situation. But i also have to send the same token that overwhelming majority of israelis support the goal and the goal is to strike hamas because we really dont have any choice and in terms of rafah, also an overwhelming majority, almost every israeli understands that we have to take rafah if we want to come us to go away as i said, knowing the call mass is telling us that theyre going to attack us again and again and again. We really have no choice. Of course their ability to attack you has been dramatically, dramatically changed. It has now is not hamas before october october 7. Yes. But if we dont destroy them fully, theyll reconstitute themselves, okay . Okay nonetheless, you cant leave a bit of hamas. So then well see hamas rebuild itself, rearm itself, and will meet them another two years down the road. Thats something that israel tried for 17 years. It failed this does come down to rafah, as you said though, right now in terms of the us relationship and biden has said that its a red line. If israel does go in with an assault in rafah, something that at least at this point, the israelis appear to be going ahead with are saying theyre gonna do it in their own terms. In fact, when you listen to biden and you listened to netanyahu, they both have a red line and the opposite way on the exact same thing here they are would invasion of rafah, would you have urged him not to do with that be a red line . Is red line, but im never going to leave israel. I have a red line. You know what the red line is . That october 7 doesnt happen. Again never happens again thats public theyre both very frustrated with each other and its very open. I mean, you heard President Biden after the state of the union, right . He wasnt even upset to be overheard criticizing Prime Minister netanyahu. How deep do you think the rift is between them right now . Well, you know, always theres personal issues and stuff like that, but i think that we can resolve this by achieving two goals. One is to destroy hamas and the second is to ensure that the 1 million in gaza citizens that are in rafah are moved from rafah before we take rafah so if we do those two things, i think both those regulators can do it realistically. Where do you move to the area north of khan yunis . Theres a fairly big area where we can allow for them to be for the meantime, look, its its not its not a fivestar hotel, its not pleasant there. Nothing nothing here is something that we wanted to do. This is a big problem. We didnt choose our neighbors to become us Islamic Jihad hizballah, i wish our neighbors were vermont and connecticut, but they arent. And we got that deal with it. And no ones gonna do it for us. And i think every israeli but wouldnt you go after sinwar on the other leaders of hamas one by one at a time and place of your choosing, much like the United States did with osama bin laden, as opposed to continuing to have an assault in which innocent people are dying every single day. Well, because its not about only sinwar, even if if you take out sinwar, you still have this Organization Called hamas. And we have to dismantle the organization so it doesnt rebuild itself. And you still think its a strong enough, deep enough organization after everything youve done to reconstitute itself as it was before . Yes. You need to reach a Critical Mass of surrender and the structure of hamas in order for it not to be able to rebuild politico is reporting that biden is so upset by the issue in rafah that he may condition military aid to israel. So specifically that if israel moves forward with a largescale invasion of rafah, that the United States could withhold Military Assistance and weaponry to israel. Now, obviously, over history, israels by far the single largest recipient of us foreign aid in History Counseling Formulations has about 300 adjusted for inflation so if do you do you believe that is that a real threat . Do you think he would actually make good on that . I hope not because were fighting your war, erin were fighting the war against Radical Islam. Hamas is not about peace, its not about the palestinians. Its about Radical Islam, the forefront of Radical Islam. And mark my words, if we are prevented from defeating Radical Islam in gaza, youre going to meet Radical Islam again here in new york. Youre going to beaten in london on the streets are going to meet it across the world. Every Islamic Radical terrorists is looking at whats going on in gaza and thats their litmus test. Do we have the resolve and we know its going to be tough. We knew that. But you cant stop in the middle just because its tough. You know, i want to tell you something. When when japan attacked america and killed 2,400 americans at pearl harbor, america took time, took four years, 3 million japanese were died in war. But you knew that you had them should do the things i dont fit camps for japanese people. I think that perhaps america was imperfect, but america was darn good in fighting and defeating the total evil that japan and nazi germany presented back then were fighting total evil. And we might be imperfect, but were doing everyones job and the world should back. Israel. Otherwise, everyones going to face it. These Zombie Murderers are going to come right over here. So what you call a Zombie Murderers, obviously other see a different way, maybe not about how a hamas specifically, but im talking about isnt broader issue. Jonathan glazer, the film maker, who jewish director who won an oscar last its night for his holocaust film, the zone of interest used his acceptance speech, as i know you maybe aware to condemn israels actions at this point in the war. Heres what he said. Film shows where dehumanization leads at its worst it shaped all of our past and present right now, we stand here as men who refute their jewishness and the holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people whether the victims of october whether the victims of october the seventh in israel, will the ongoing attack on gaza, all are victims of this to humanization how do we resist we stand here as men who refute their jewishness on the holocaust being hijacked by an occupation. And then the applause, your response to that . Its shameful. He thinks is distancing himself from israel and somehow hell be loved. Jews of tried the approach of being murdered again and again, and hoping for sympathy. Thats not something that i believe in. I think that we need to be strong. We need to be proud. Were on the right nobody in israel wanted this no one wanted it. We were on our festival in israel and on that morning, i remember just like right now, that morning at 06 30 in the morning when hamas attacked and murdered and raped are women and kidnapped our kids and burned entire families. So whose kissing up to you think youre going to be more popular because you get some clapping their stand up for your nation, stand up for the right. And you know what, this is not only about jews, its about right and wrong. And i have more oh clarity. They are in the wrong word and the right stan behind us i, Prime Minister bennett, i appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next Conspiracy Theories like this one surrounding this picture are running rampant after princess kate admits she, dr. To family photos. So why wont the royal family just released the original picture . Plus a boeing 787 suddenly plunging in a nosedive, people flying to the Cabinet Cabin Blood on the ceiling. 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All of which was raised more questions about why she is still staying out of The Public Eye after her Abdominal Surgery two months ago, Richard Quest is outfront it was the picture that was meant to put to rest what ease about kate . This photo of the princess of wales and her children has now been pulled from circulation only hours after the photo was released on mothers day in the uk the Associated Press news agency was the first withdraw it using what they call a kill notification. The api said, at closer inspection, it appears that the source has manipulated the image by source. They mean the princess. The problem problem is princess charlottes sleeve isnt where it should be. We have experts, photoshop experts, like the guys sitting behind me that it doesnt take a second for them to see that the image was altered and manipulated and her hair ends abruptly. The zipper on kates sweater is misaligned the other big agency is reuters and afp were quick to issue their own kill notices, telling news outlets not to use the image then more than 24 hours after she posted it, the princess of wales apologized, saying, like many Amateur Photographers, i do occasionally experiment with editing at one level, this is nothing more than an Amateur Photographer getting it wrong, but the underlying issue is the fact that the princess of wales has not been seen since having unspecified Abdominal Surgery back in january. This grainy photograph taken on monday as kate traveled to a private appointment with william hes one of the few images that surfaced since then. We dont know what editing she did. And the palace havent released the unedited version so is this just an Amateur Photographers learning experience or is there something more to the picture thats fueled 1,000 words of speculation so richard you know, such a thing should not spark so much conversation, but in light of the fact that nobody sener and nobody knows what happened to her and nobody knows what she went through there. Such intense interest so if if if there is no nothing wrong other than just a bad edit job why not just put out the original unedited . Good photo . Oh, absolutely. One of them. Im sure there were many to live. And you would have a benefit because she could then say, im just like you im an Amateur Photographer. I did this and this is what it looked like originally, and this is what i tried to do and it all went horribly wrong. You see the real problem with this picture . Is it was cackhanded. I mean, this was so badly done that. So lets say she does it then it has to go to Kensington Palace Media Department best abomb. Do they released it as an official news photo. I mean, nobody checked it. A nobody looked at it to see is It Conspiracy . Or is it cockup . Thats what this comes two. And so then the Conspiracy Theories fill that question mark, right . Fill that space like the vogue cover, right where they evoke cover. She did a few years ago and they just take a six second time lapse. They didnt go look at themselves and they say, oh, now its her two years ago because theyre worried. Well, we havent seen her. You see the point here is the onus is now on the palace they put out a crappy photo, which they then had to withdraw and then had to explain. And it is their owners to explain why thats the point. I actually probably think she did do it yourself. I mean, shes an Amateur Photographer. She probably did have a go at it. 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It was a boeing 787, at least 50 people were hurt in the incident and the flight was from sydney to auckland in new zealand. My next, guest is brian joke had he was on that plane and he shared these photos with us. So in the pictures here that youre seeing for the first time, you can see the force of the jolt was so strong the paneling above the Stowage Compartment right above your seat, where you would put bags is broken and it was broken by bodies by people who were hurled out of there and then brian had a conversation with the pilot after the incident, he came back in the plane and hes going to tell you about it because brian is outfront with me now and brian, i appreciate your time. Thank god, youre okay. Physically, it can only imagine the trauma is a terrifying incident. Can you describe to me . Exactly what happened you know, youre youre flying along, i think in your case, you dozed off. And then what . Yeah. Thank you it was it was it was like a scene out of a movie. Would actually youre actually in the movie . I had dozed off and luckily had my seat belt engaged in. The next thing, you know, the plane as ive kind of learned to understand, drops something to the effect of 500 feet instantly and then have the effect of it coming like a Roller Coaster and then started to point down and thats when i opened my eyes and there was various individuals at the top of the plane just stuck to the roof and then they fell to the floor and then i just realized im not the movie. This is actually for real and not dreaming is for real. So youre dreaming and it feels like a nosedive. Theres a moment where you think maybe it is a dream but you wake up hitting the ceiling yeah. It might look next to me and the guy was out of his seat in on the ceiling of the plane and then he felt and heard himself pretty bad and then people were screaming and crying and yeah, it was it was it was mass chaos for a few few few short seconds did there there was a moment in your head where you thought oh, my god. Now, this is that im going to die yeah. There was clearly a moment in my head and then i just kind of resigned to the fact that this could be it might be it and then the announcement came on. Take your seats, please. Anyone therell be will be sending help as quickly as possible. Theres some any doctors its on board and a few doctors stepped up into the plate and started to give assistance and men some people up that were bleeding and had various injuries putting some neck braces on people. It was touching go so the pilot after this happens comes back to check on everybody after the incident, comes over to where you are, brian, how did he look . He was i think he was in shock. I think he felt that he wanted to see what what people were going through. He walked to the back and i immediately engage with them and said, what was that . And he openly admitted he said, i lost control of the plane. My gauges just cut went blank on me and thats when the plane just took a dive. Literally, he says the gauges went blank yeah, he said they malfunctioned and and did he did he say that maybe he didnt have the ability then to even control it, to fly it. He said for that brief moment, he couldnt control anything and thats when the plane just did what it did. And then you said the gauges came back and then reengaged in the plane just reengaged to its normal Flight Pattern and we had no issues before, no issues after, but just that moment im quite certain that is terrifying. Can i ask you what it was like after this happened in the plane flies again and obviously the pilots are in the front and youre all back there was it silent . What were those last 45 minutes . There was there was 25 minutes of eerily silence from the ones that were okay and then a lot of you could hear people sobbing and a lot of people kind of in pain with kind of yeah. Just kind of hunched over and people shaking like there were their hands were shaking and it was it was bizarre. It was i have to say it was and seeing those people flying around, it was like to see the exorcist i always like, what is this it was it was hard to believe that to see that happen firsthand. What brian thank you very much for sharing it with us. Of course. Sorry. So sorry for you and everyone on board that plane it is terrifying. What happened . Terrifying with the pilot told him you and we all want some answers and obviously, you and your fellow passengers deserve them as quickly as possible. Thank you thank you for thank you for having me thanks so much to all of you for being with us. Ac360 starts now tonight on 361 of jack smith is central

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