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From, the source tonight, cnn can now call donald trump the presumptive nominee. But his last republican rival vanquished even Mitch Mcconnell is throwing his support behind trump. And trump is making a headsnapping new demand will tell you that in a moment. So Maggie Haberman will join me live on what elon musk was doing at maralago as trump was pleading with a judge for mercy, which for him means more time. The cough of the many millions that he already and tonight, the agonizing choice to leave your home state to terminate a pregnancy. Texas mom, kate cox explain to her deeply personal decision ahead of a huge moment in the national spotlight, shes President Bidens guest at the State Of The Union tomorrow night. Im Kaitlan Collins since this is the source its this equal that most americans didnt want. But apparently its the only thing play. Super tuesday has all but cemented the Biden Versus Trump rematch at the top of their partys tickets. Nikki haley is out and Mitch Mcconnell is apparently on board more on the Outgoing Senate republican leader in a moment. But this is notable 170,000 voters backs nikki haley over donald trump in the Battleground States of nevada, North Carolina, in michigan. Remember that number because it could be very important Come November 570,000 is more than double the gap that decided the race. And those states four years ago but that is the backdrop, the current and former president s chose very different ways to convince haley voters to join their team today. President biden commended her for quote speaking the truth as the nail Presumptive Republican nominee bragged that he had trounced chart here in washington. It was even enough for Mitch Mcconnell to fall in line and finally endorsed Donald Trumps something he is not done. The same. Donald trump, i should note who attacked both the senator and his wife and vicious and racist terms over and over and over again. Its also the same donald trump that Mitch Mcconnell hasnt spoken to in three years. The same one that he also scorchingly denounced after january 6, theres no question. None that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of a day no question about it the people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president for his part, mcconnell insist that there is no disconnect between his criticisms of trump and helping put them back in the white house potentially dvor is at 25th, 2021. Shortly after the attack on the capitol i was asked a similar question and i said, i would support the nominee for president even if it were the former president my first guest tonight, like Mitch Mcconnell is a lifelong republican who witnessed trump and action firsthand and even wrote entire book morning and severe terms about a possible second trump term. Better john bolton was Donald Trumps National Security advisers. But on source many times, its great to have you, ambassador bolton. I mean, republican in voters were given more than a dozen choices here why does so many of them insist that donald trump they believe is the best their party has to offer. Well, im not sure they think hes the best, but i think all of the other republican candidates with the possible exception of Chris Christie and asa hutchison, made the same mistake. Trumps opponents made in the 2016 Nomination Process of attacking each other, hoping to be the last one standing so they could take trump on. And it turns out this year, as in 2016, you dont beat donald trump by attack. The other candidates, you have to make the argument that convince voters trump is not fit to be president. And they all basically failed to do that with a few exceptions really kinda did that at the end. I mean, she went after him on age. She went after a Mountain Fitness for the presidency on russia, too little too late. And i think that was part of the problem. They couldnt make up their mind, are they for trump . Are they against trump . Are they trying to appeal . Hes trump. Political leadership doesnt consist in following what the polls tell you. It consists of persuading people that they should support your candidacy and reject trump for all of his flaws. That case was never made by any of them youve said that neither biden nor trump is the correct answer. I mean, but that is going to be the choice. So what toys are you going to make . So youre just telling me im very beleaguered these days and in 2020, i wrote In The Name Of a conservative republican. I live in maryland and you have that possibility because there was no conservative republican on the ballot. I feel exactly the same way four years later, and thats what ill do again. Its a problem with america that were going to have a rematch of a contest 70 to 80 of the people say they dont want what, whats wrong with the political system that produces the result that so many dont so instead of voting for donald trump, youll just write someone in thats right. And look, i live in maryland. Biden is going to carry that state anyway. Im going to worry what i think priority has to be for people who in publicans who dont like trump is get a republican senate. And in maryland, we have a real opportunity with former governor larry hogan. Im going to spend a lot of time on that. So for people who do face this choice and they dont want to write someone in we have dealt with a lot of people in the show who have been critical of trump and dont feel like hes the best that republicans have to offer for the presidency. But they also dont want to vote for a democrat. I mean, what would you say to people who . Are willing to vote for their party, but only because its an r on the ticket. Well, id say dont violate your principles. I think this is the problem the democrats have in pursuing a bidens candidacy. If trump wins in november his Election Night Victory Speech start off saying, i want to thank joe biden and the Democratic Party for all the hard work theyve done to bring the back to election. Biden is deeply unpopular. Its not going to get any better between now and election day, the country would be better off if they found another candidate. I dont see that happening. So i know you think hes unpopular. You very much do not like President Bidens policies. Youve made that clear in our conversations before. But is it worth not voting for him simply because you dont like his policies. If you genuinely think trump is a threat to democracy, well, i dont think hes a threat to the constitution. I think he caused enormous damage in the first term. I think it will cause more deaths damage in the second term, but our institutions are stronger than donald trump and i think if you overstay pardon me . Does that include the presidency because he has people who we just talked to, Doug Burgum Last Night who trump says would be a great vp and he wouldnt say if you thought that mike pence did the right thing on january 6, neither will at least defined she said that she thought he did the wrong thing. Jd vance, theres no doubt that The One And Only Interview Question on the Vice President ial Interview Questionnaire is, will you do what i tell you to do this time, at least until something dramatic happens though, trump cant get a third term i think his, his presidency would be filled with disorder, chaos, and damage to the country. But that requires fighting against it. It doesnt say its so bad. Im going to violate my principles for voting by voting for joe biden. Its a very unhappy situation. Theres no getting around it, but i dont think do you think voting for biden would violate your principles . I think absolutely. I think hes conducted a disastrous American Foreign policy to give you simply one example from today, his proposed budget on Defense Matters for next year represents a 1 increase. Thats lower than the rate of inflation at a time when we need dramatically increased Defense Spending to face our throats. But even though the two of you agree on nato, something that he has upheld and the concern that weve heard a very real one that donald trump will withdrawal from nato if he takes office. Thats not enough to get you to vote for biden over trump . No, because i think the policies hes pursuing have led us to the crisis that we see in ukraine. He failed to determine for the russians there and put them do that. Well, but biden made no effort. In fact, said publicly twice. Im not going to be able to determine. I think that was fundamentally wrong. I think the same things happening in the middle east now, biden is more worried about a wider war than he is the threat to our closest ally, israel. One thing that President Biden did right after he took office cut trump off from intelligence briefings, which is often for 60 years has been afforded to pass president s after they leave office typically the major nominees of parties also have access to classified intelligence briefings, but the white house said today that theyre not keen to change their mind on letting trump get that access, even though hes about to be the nominee. Do you agree with that . I would not give him access to classified materials, whatever the past precedent has been. No. No, no other candidate has been under indictment for allowing classified information to be compromised and given given the pendency of that indictment alone i wouldnt give him the briefings. Ambassador john bolton. Thank you for joining me here tonight is also former Deputy Campaign manager for the desantis president ial campaign. David polyansky and former Lieutenant Governor of georgia, geoff duncan. And given you what we just heard jeff on, what voters are facing here in this battle for those nikki haley voters, whether theyre going to go to trump or to biden whats your sense of what theyll do yeah. I think we we were gonna wake up tomorrow with 100 million americans scratching their head is to what, what do we do now . I think its interesting to break down who these nikki haley voters are. Its such a wide categories scattered categories, right . Youve got republicans that dont think the 2020 election was rigged. Youve got fiscal conservatives, you got democrats who are disenfranchised with wide and youve got former republicans that are now democrat. So youve got this whole big quadrate. Its gonna be interesting to see what plays out and look. Seven months is a long time. But i dont i dont really know what to do at this point as somebody who cant vote for joe biden because i dont align with his policies. I dont believe hes got the best interest any longer of the country donald trump is just broken down. Theres no chance that i would ever show up to support donald trump. Whats your sense well, look, i think i think what weve seen with donald trump is hes defied the odds both this year politically and legally. And so i think most in our party and certainly most people in the country didnt think hed have this easy prompt to the nomination, nor did they think that he would evade trials and delay them as much as he has. And so i think the combination of his potency politically and his ability to move seamlessly fit the Legal Process is put them in a pretty strong position right now. And if you look at the real clear politics averages 2. 5 to almost twoandahalf points ahead of joe biden. And hes leading him on average. And every single swing state except pennsylvania, which is under 1 . So if youre asking me how i view it today, id rather be in Donald Trumps camp than i would in the president s you obviously worked on desantiss campaign that face says a lot. But do you think donald trump was ever beatable . In retrospect know, look, the minute they were two things that happened, you said no. Yeah. There were two things that happened and i think this is when the nomination ended. Number one, when he was first indicted, i think the party and the base rallied around him because they felt it wasnt just an assault on donald trump. They felt it was an assault on him. You did a great job message the gene and number two, when public polls started to put him in striking distance and ultimately ahead of biden, the Electability Argument went away. And when those two things happen, the race was over. It was officially over the night of iowa, but it probably ended last summer i mean, this all Kinda Crystallized today when we saw Mitch Mcconnell get behind trump. I dont think its totally surprising that Mitch Mcconnell would do it in the cynical sense. But in the political sense, when you look at it, how trump is not only attacked Mitch Mcconnell nonstop, hes attacked elaine chao and shes personally told me when ive spoken to her and interviews that she believes those attacks are vehemently racist, and he endorses him and trump now goes from saying, i could never worked with Mitch Mcconnell to saying he could work with him. Thats the problem. I wrote a piece for the Atlantic Journal Constitution Last week where i called it. Thats just politics all right, weve got to stop just saying thats just politics to go along to play along. I mean, im one of those folks and republicans, im thinking nikki haley, dont dont endorse donald trump, right . Where are we going to draw the line in the same as republicans . Where are we going to draw the line that the future of this country is more important than a shortterm sugar high of getting a couple of points or likes on whatever whatever is driving mean these people watching tim scott do what hes doing. I mean, he knows better than this. So does the whole list of people that have just fallen in. Thats just politics is going to absolutely destroy this country. And so my encouragement is the wake up. Go to work and continue to say the right things not to win an election, but for the right things for americans and youngkin, Governor Glenn Youngkin of virginia, i should note just endorse donald trump on twitter or something that he had no stated an arms length from him as he conducted his own race. Ron desantis got out and endorse donald trump. He has not said really anything except since then. Hes not campaigning on his behalf. I mean, you just heard but john bolton said about not about voting your conscience, writing someone and if you dont though that Donald Trumps the nominee, i say to that i remember a former boss of mine in 2016 using that same line at the cleveland convention. Look and for people who are watching and dont know, it was senator for this, im sorry using that line at the convention in regards to the trump candidacy, then look, this is complex the fact of the matter is youve got a choice between a president who is not wholly unpopular, just unpopular with americans but hes driving policies that are driving each of us as we make decisions in our personal lives on the economy, its just not going to get credit even if the economy does turn around on immigration, hes at 18 popularity favorability on it because hes failed. And i think as we heard earlier in the night on the network hes been absent on the issue only until recently has even emerged and talking about that, which is the number one issue weve got a Long Way To Go in this race, but again, id rather be in the trump camp right now than i would be with the president leading into tomorrow night. And the sense is still at trump and desantis havent spoken that. I dont know. Geoff duncan, david. Thank you both for being here great to have you both up next as you heard, elon musk saying today, hes not giving any president ial candidate money. So why did he just meet privately with trump at maralago will speak to Maggie Haberman about her latest scoop. Plus in North Carolina, republicans just nominated someone who is quoted hitler on facebook. 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Maggie wonder you saw that tweet today from elon basket. I still call them tweets. How carefully worded do you think that that message was . Because i mean, he could theoretically give to a super pac supporting a candidate without specifically given to that candidate. Yeah, i think youre hitting on the issue here. He says to be clear, well, hes clear that hes not getting hard dollars to candidates and i dont think anybody expected elon musks valuable 3,300 checks to be at issue here. I think the bigger issue is whether he would give money to a super pac or a Dark Money Group where they dont have to disclose who their donors are. And he did not address either one of those. I think the statement left him wiggle room now, that doesnt mean that he will donate kaitlan. I could see a world where he doesnt write a big check or any check. But that is the hope of people around trump is that he does ultimately give money. Well, the reason they have that hope is because theyre trying to close that massive Fundraising Gap between them and the current president , President Biden, who didnt have to deal with weeks of a primary challenge. And i just wonder based on what youve been hearing from people, how worried they actually are about shoring up their finances and the ability to do that quickly. The financial disparity has been a concern for trumps political advisors for many, many months going back till i would say the fall when it became clear that he was likely to be the republican nominee, and it was clear that there was going to be a huge disparity between what democrats were able to raise, not just the Biden Campaign proper, his super pac, the Democratic National committee. And then there will be other outside groups at the moment. Trump does not have Something Like that, and we have seen the President Biden has outraised him so far. So this is a real worry and elon musk is in a unique position to come close to erasing that deficit almost singlehandedly outside group dollars are not the same as hard dollars that can be i buy a campaign, but they can still help a lot. Chubb is also having financial troubles beyond the campaign today, asking the judge who is overseeing the e. Jean carroll case to give him more time, a few extra days to post that at 3. 3 million bond. And i just wonder what youve heard from people inside hi, does orban, because obviously at 3. 3 million is just a small portion of the ultimate total that youd have to pay in addition to the 450 million that he has to post when it comes to the civil fraud trial, what are you hearing about the legal fees and how thats cutting and toll of this well, look, the legal fees pieces is a big issue and as we know, thats a different part of money, which is the save america money, that Political Action committee that president , former President Trump controls that he money, he started raising while he was still president. During this period where he was alleging falsely widespread fraud that had impacted the 2020 election that he needed money to fight, and he then store this all in this Political Action committee or much of it. And the Political Action committee. And its gone to pay a bunch of things. But among them, his lawyers and other peoples lawyers. So thats one piece. Then there the bond piece that youre talking about and that is a separate issue. And there is clearly a problem so far in acquiring a bond, it doesnt mean that they wont get there, but im not sure what a couple of more days delay is going to do. And the judge has already said no we delay previously. In addition to what weve been watching with Super Tuesday, trump is now saying, as hes the Presumptive Republican nominee, the only person in this race that he is now ready to debate after, of course, he didnt debate anyone in the republican primary and has spent years going after the president ial Debates Commission and railing against them. I wonder what your senses, even though were still a few months away from when those would actually happen, if thats something hes actually serious about Going Forward with . I think the trump very much wants to debate or loon hearing that consistently for a while, he just didnt want to debate any of his republican rivals. We know that he pressured ronna mcdaniel, the Outgoing Republican National Committee mean he chairwoman to cancel debates over and over and over. And he said it publicly too. He did it privately with her directly and push this with others as well. But his folks have been clear going back to the summer, his meeting trumps, he wants a bunch of general election debates. He believes that that is a helpful contrast with President Biden. It is a question to me what President Biden will agree to because remember, kaitlan at the first debate, they had in 2020, trump later turned out to have had covid that week. Now, it remains an open question whether he had it on stage, but he didnt look well on stage. There was a feeling among the biden folks that the commission on president ial debates did not do enough to enforce covid protocols. They were very angry about it. They remain very angry about it. So i dont know what they will agree to we will say whats your sense generally of, war in this moment . And so many people were lie on your reporting about trump and have for years and just as where this moment that a year ago, maybe it seemed like we would not be back here. What the next eight months or so were going to look like they rely on your reporting to the its going to be a very long general election is what i would say. I think it is going to be a aaa a pretty brutal eight months. I mean, among other things, were going to have unless something changes, a criminal trial for one of the nominees, he wont be the nominee. Yeah. But hes the presumptive nominee right now with former President Trump, expected to go on trial on march 25 in new york. That may be the only trial he faces this uri is three other indictments and three other places, but that alone is unprecedented. 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A painful decision to end a pregnancy that she wanted, because texas law and the courts said she couldnt. Despite two crucial pieces of information here one, a child that she was expecting would not have survived. And kates health and future fertility were also at risk. She and her husband just sat down with my colleague dana bash and dana bash joins me now. I mean, what an amazing moment, for this person who did become go from being a private person to this National Figure for such a painfully private reason. Yeah. I mean, painful is an understatement. And what i spoke to her, she said that because she married young, she never thought abortion would be something she would even have to consider. Then she entered her husband, who are already parents of two young children, were told that her third pregnancy wasnt viable and they did come to the excruciating decision to end the pregnancy one, they didnt think would wind up with a lawsuit that made national headlines. No idea no idea. It would receive this widespread attention. Mean to us, it felt very straightforward we wanted our baby and she was never going to be able to survive. And we want to have that opportunity to continue to build our family, to try again, to have another pregnancy. How many weeks pregnant were you when you first heard trisomy 18 and that youre at risk . For your baby having that, which is a rare chromosomal disorder, right i think i was around 13 weeks when it first came up as a risk. My dr. Calls and chest, if i was driving and told her i was driving pulled over and she told me at that time that the screening had come back. So it took them five weeks to get the diagnosis. The first thing we saw was a very clear issue with development of the spine, the neural tube and so we thought, well maybe, maybe, or maybe well have a life in a wheelchair and then the next week we saw more and continued over five weeks. And thats when you get the full diagnosis in that final ultrasound was catastrophic. It was our baby wouldnt survive the moment as a parent, as a mother when you learn that theres something wrong with your pregnancy, i know what thats like. And its etched in your memory forever. I asked the dr. Bestcase scenario if she survived the pregnancy because tries me, the full trisomy 18 babies often miscarry or are still born. And so if we survive the pregnancy and we survived the birth, how long bestcase scenario does she think we could have with her . And she said the longest would be a week. She would be placed directly on to hospice. There is no treatment that could be done and i didnt want her to suffer would want to life measured in minutes or hours, or days with medical machinery for us. And the risks as well. We wanted to be able to have a baby. We wanted a sibling for our children as well. We want to be able to try again when we got the devastating diagnosis, i asked my dr. What would do women do when they receive a diagnosis like that . Like this. And she told me some women choose to continue the pregnancy and some choose not to and i asked her if that was an option in texas. If i chose not to to the pregnancy and she told me so you filed a lawsuit and the Court Granted the Restraining Order on the law saying that you could legally obtain an abortion and that you would not be at risk for driving. Your wife, that the dr. Would not be at risk. But then the next day, the Texas Supreme Court temporarily blocked the decision. What were those days like . Well, we when we got the ruling from the judge, we were excited and hopeful. We thought well, you know, maybe everybody will see, you know, common sense that comes with this issue, like we do, that this is medical care. It was very upsetting dynamic range of feelings with that going from hopeful too feel like, okay, this isnt going to be as easy as we thought. It was really crushing pregnancies are complicated. And its difficult sometimes to build your family, so its really terrifying when thats left up to politicians and judges. You did make the decision to travel outside of texas. You went to new mexico to have an abortion. Tough decision was we were on a strict timeline and we couldnt wait any longer. So the decision had to be made. Its the hardest thing weve ever been through in our lives. And the laws today added a lot more pain. To what was already the most painful time in our lives thats why i want to share our story and thats why i hope it will be different one day, abortion has always been a very political issue, even more so since roe was overturned were you a particularly political couple or you were you a political person before this not at all. Was not a political person. Both have voted in the past, but weve never been very enthusiastic about the process. And you are now certainly arent now im guessing youre going to vote for joe biden the number one thing were both voting for his protection of Abortion Rights because women and families deserve medical care. This i dont want to see others continue to be hurt. How many how many women have to tell their most heartbreaking journey publicly . How many have to speak out before something changes . I mean what a powerful story, absolutely heartbreaking. And, you know, i asked her a couple of different times in a couple of different ways why she, wants to do this, and whether she really understood when she did file this lawsuit, they both did. Whether it would erupt into such a national story. And she said, as i mentioned, she already has two young children, one of them is a girl and she said, i dont want my daughter to have to deal with this. If and when she is trying to start a family and that is really the key here for this couple. And that is, that her dr. Told her that this pregnancy would not produce a viable child and when they brought this into the courts, what the answer was, they said was that the dr. Wasnt explicit enough that her life was at risk, even though that wasnt really clear. First of all, its her life, but also the idea that she wants to have a fan, but they want to continue to grow their family. One of these laws is theyre meant to protect life is what you hear from lawmakers at the state or federal level. The her life was at risk and also her daughter, if if shed been born, the bestcase scenario was one week that she wouldve survived yeah. Its its its on imaginable, unimaginable on the strength that they both have to speak out and to know that the bright, hot spotlight is going to be on them they got the call from the president and they said were going to come yeah, itll be really powerful to see them tomorrow. 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The lead with jake tapper tomorrow it for cnn a man who has openly downplayed the atrocities of hitler and nazi germany and his described homosexuality is filled, is now the republican nominee for governor in North Carolina . Yeah, really it sets the stage for a hotly contested governors race. In a very key Battleground State Come November. And that man, the candidate that i was talking about, Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, attempted last night in his Victory Speech to define himself this way. A lot about me throughout this campaign much of it has been false those are you all who know me, know who i am . Heres the thing. A lot of it. Well, really all of it is not false at all. Theres a record you can hear it for yourself. The fringe, a downright hateful rhetoric out of his own mouth for yourself . On friday night, the Mall On Saturday Night Go to the mens bathroom you are confused . One outside so many things were lost during the civil rights movement. So many freedoms were lost during the civil rights movement. They shouldnt have been lost theres no reason anybody anywhere in america telling me that about ten generalism, homosexuality hear that phil and yes, i called it filled here tonight. The Current Office holder of the job that robinson wants, democratic governor of North Carolina, roy cooper, who of course i should note, still has ten months loved on the job, but governor, when you hear when you hear that knowing Mark Robinson could possibly be in your job in a matter of months. What does go through your mind well, this is the most extreme rightwing candidate that weve seen in North Carolinas history youve heard all of the things hes also said that men should lead, not women. Hes also said he has an Assault Weapon to shoot Government Officials if the government gets too big for its britches. North carolina has been through culture wars before i got elected in 2016 on the heels of the Bathroom Bill in North Carolina, i beat a republican incumbent who had tried to use culture wars and we walked through the rubble of that Bathroom Bill battlefield and we have now attracted a Record Number of jobs. Weve been the best state in the country for business two years in a row weve gotten the Republican Legislature in a bipartisan way to expand medicaid. We passed Clean Energy Legislation in North Carolina the people of North Carolina do not want to go back to a culture warrior. And thats what we have in Mark Robinson but its a dangerous time because donald trump is on the ballot. And donald trump won North Carolina in 2,016. 2020. Although this was his closest win in 2021, 0. 3 . So we know with those two candidates at the top of the ticket, thats Double Trouble in North Carolina. And a lot of people are going to come out to vote against Mark Robinson and for josh stein, whos our current Attorney General, and well do he has integrity and grit and will do an extraordinary job in keeping our progress Going Forward. Well, that margin that you mentioned in 2020 for trump is just 75,000 voters. But, but obviously Mark Robinson here has done something to appeal to people in your state. You know them well there your constituents what is it that had him be i mean, there were two other republicans running against him. One of them saying these ads are going to cut themselves for democrats here. But, but republicans in your state picked him still. Most people dont know who he is. You know, its very difficult to break through on a Super Tuesday its important that North Carolinians find out who he really is. And i think he has been able to hide the Lieutenant Governors office then lets be clear. This is an independently elected office in North Carolina. During the next few months, the people of North Carolina and the nation are going to be introduced to Mark Robinson and how dangerous he is for our state. Youre going to see a lot of people coming out. This is a guy who has said im against an abortion in all circumstances no exception. And reproductive freedom is going to be a significant issue in North Carolina because the Republican Legislature by one vote over my veto with all republicans voting to override and all democrats voting to sustain my veto, they did pass a 12 week abortion ban and have said they are coming back for more and Mark Robinson wants more. And the people of North Carolina dope so at the end of the day, i think this is going to be an important issue in North Carolina and a lot of people are going to come to the polls because they dont want politicians in the exam room with a woman and her dr. Well, on that note, the white house has made clear democrats present biden may have North Carolina and their sides as well. Theyre hoping they can, they can win it in 2024. And given you know, what the Political Landscape looks like in the popular that donald trump does have in your state i wonder what you think is should be President Biden strategy to win over those 250,000 voters in North Carolina who did vote for nikki haley. They did not vote for donald trump as they are both very much making that appeal, given how tight these margins are yeah, nikki haley voters can be joe biden, the voters. Womens reproductive freedom will be emphasized in our state. Ive talked with the president and the president s campaign. They know this is a big issue here. Health care is a big issue. Donald trump was opposed to the Affordable Care act. This is one of the few promises they actually tried to keep when he was president , he almost gutted the Affordable Care act. And what carolina we just expanded medicaid. Mark robinson is against expansion of medicaid when you look at all that, joe biden has done to bring healthcare to North Carolinians. This has got to be pitting the best of joe biden against the worst of donald trump. So health care and reproductive freedom are going to be on the ballot as well as joe biden successes ive been able to go throughout the state and announce. Yeah, water and sewer projects in Rural Counties and highspeed Internet Connection and things that matter to everyday families. Not to be able to emphasize those things as well. And i should just note, we have heard from Mark Robinsons campaign. They now claim that that he does Support Restrictions are the exceptions. They havent said exactly which ones. This is a conversation were going to be able to having a lot Going Forward. Governor roy cooper, thank you for your time tonight. Thank you i just know, what he has said we heard it. 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Com mesothelial its all we do with local offices throughout the country and does help you get the compensation you deserve. 800 to eight to 44, 44 you are looking live at alabama right now where the State Legislature there has just voted to pass that ivf bill, a bill that was hastily written. I should note f for the states highest court ruled that Embryos Count is children as several ivf clinics closed and alabama as a result that ruling this bill tonight though, doesnt address that issue about Embryos Counting is person and instead focuses on protecting Ivf Providers and their patients. Here tonight, cameron ward, a former ally to lawmaker, as unique perspective on this issue for two reasons, his past support of a 2018 law in the state but that form the basis of this ruling and also has two children who were conceived with the help of idea ivf and cam. Its great to have you here tonight because you and your wife, lindsay, shared your own story about this. You called this a stupid ruling you thought by the state supreme court. But given this legislation doesnt confront whats at the heart of this. I wonder if you think its enough tonight. No, i think its a bandaid approach and i think the legislature did the right thing. It was bipartisan. I was served with him for 20 years. And when i was over there, ive never seen a bill passed so fast. They wanted to fix this problem as quickly as they could, or at least get an approach to stop the problems that would occur and allow for for longterm solution. So i think they did the right thing. I think long term theyre gonna have to probably have a constitutional amendment, but theyre working on it. Theyre doing a good job on it. Do you think there could be support for a constitutional amendment . I absolutely do. If you looked at the bipartisan support and you had a governor who was in favor of a fix. You hadnt Attorney General who said, im not going to prosecute these cases anyway. And you have both sides of the aisle saying, we need to fix this . Yes, i do. I think theyll fix it and im proud to see the way theyre dealing with it in a fast manner so that families was like me and my wife dont have to deal with that Going Forward and this ruling is you talked about your own experience and what that mean. It came from an interpretation of a law that was passed by the State Legislature in 2018. As i mentioned, when you were a state senator, you voted for it. I know youre prolife and you want prolife laws, but do you wished in retrospect that you hadnt voted for that law i think no one intended for this to be the consequence of it. I was one of those who pushed for the three exceptions i really thought we should have three exceptions. We didnt get that i regret that part that we didnt get those. But at the end of the day, i think you have so many lawmakers now saying, we never intended that. We want to fix it. And my former colleagues were over there. I think theyre trying to address that and im proud they are because they should fix it because no one intended for this to be a consequence of it. I mean, what does it say though, that it was that it led to this ruling . That it led to ivf clinics closing, which you and your wife personal have personal experience of just how devastating that precious time can be in such a grueling process. I think it was an overreach by the courts. And thats a question for the courts. I mean, i cant speak for them, but i can tell you in debates, we had and there were a lot of very contentious debates on that bill. I think at the end of the de, thats a question for the courts. They took an interpretation that way beyond what the law said so i think its more of a question of the courts that it is for the legislators cameron ward great to have you on and to hear yours and lindsey story about this. And thank you for sharing that perspective. Give with us kaitlan. Thank you. And all are glad to say, hey, from alabama to thank you so much. And before we go tonight, we do have a special show coming up tomorrow on this very issue for democratic lawmakers, including one from alice obama, will join to talk about ivf and Abortion Access overall in america, sharing their own emotional stories and sending a warning to women about what they say could happen in a second. Trump