Trump, Dominant On Super Tuesday pulling off. A nearsweeps. Thats could spell the end for his only real primary opponent left in the race. And President Biden, hoping to drive home to key points when he delivers his state of the Union Address, why hes fit for a second term, and why donald trump is not. And nikki haley is still hanging on. But for how long after seeing her hopes all but slip away on super tuesday a live look at the white house right there in front of the washington monument. Theres still not awake there. Can i its 06 00 a. M. Here on the east coast. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us. It looks like that november rematch that most americans tell us they dont want. Well, its exactly what were all going to get after Donald Trumps near sweep on super tuesday, trump dominating nearly every race, winning by big margins and state after state and now closing in pretty quickly on the 1,215 delegates. He needs to clinch the nomination they call it super tuesday for a reason and they tell me the pundits and otherwise that theres never been one like this theres never been anything so conclusive. This was an amazing, an amazing item amazing day nikki haley did win her first state, vermont, keeping trump from running the table. But shes gotten no events on her calendar and her future is uncertain on the democratic side, President Bidens sweeping all the super tuesday states. He did not win an American Samoa. Hes turning his focus to november. Bidens campaign out with a new memo this morning calling trump a wounded, dangerous, and unpopular man. And this quote, we have a clear path to victory. Lets discuss all this in more with New York TimesWhite House CorrespondentZolan Kanno YoungsDavid Polyansky, former Desantis Deputy campaign manager. Weve got bakari sellers, cnn Political Commentator and former South Carolina state representative, and geoff duncan, the former georgia lieutenant governor. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here because you had a very late night. Im particularly grateful to you for coming in early here for the American Samoa verdict i hate to call you out right off the top, but you did have predictions you thought haley was going to win alaska, utah and maine. Vermont was missing yeah. I would have taken your money you actually get destroyed and alaska, utah was a little bit closer. Vermont was slight amina maine was slightly closer, but she did well in vermont. I mean, thats what you want when you want to be the republican nominee, vermont and the District Of Columbia yeah. The queen of the swamp, Quote From David thank you for this is your first tour with us here in the mornings. I really appreciate you being here. Thank you. Talk to me a little bit about how you see haleys future in the context of what just happened with donald trump. I mean, you obviously ran against trump when you were part of the desantis campaign, he handled the aftermath of his early losses in a different way than she has. What should she do next . Well, look, the race was all but decided the night in iowa very cold night. But on january 15 for the republican nomination was one when you allow donald trump to get over 50 of iowa caucusgoers, the race concluded. And so every candidate and campaign had to make a decision at that point, not only for 24, but for their own futures Going Forward. What was the best pathway for them in our case . Ron desantis decided to we go back and serve as governor of florida and make decisions about his future then if i had been advising nikki haley, i probably would have fought through New Hampshire given the independent and democrat crossover. But going home and losing by such a wide margin in her home state that probably as an adviser, i would have recommended that be the end in unfortunately only for her taking so many losses last night to bakaris point up and down the country. And by significant margins in some cases, 80 going to trump. Thats not recoverable. Not only obviously for this cycle, but Going Forward, shes just not going to be the partys standard bear watching the results come in yesterday i was thinking about how you it seemed like nikki haley really never found the right sort of way or consistent message for criticizing the former president xi at times tried to make it a generational argument, both talking about the age of former President Trump and President Biden saying and that she was sort of represent a new generation coming in. But not often also directly taking on the former president , really until after iowa as well i think that that did play into this a little bit. She in a way represented a bit of the Old Republican Party and the oldest stablished front and the ended yesterday as the results were coming in, it was hard not to think about that. Yeah. One of the things that i think helped kept haley in the race longer than perhaps many would have expected was the way donald trump talked about her after the New Hampshire primary. So he was on better behavior from his advisers perspective when he was onstage last night, but he also talked thats about a much differently on talk radio. So he clearly knows his audiences. Lets watch first what he had to say onstage last night we have a great Republican Party with tremendous talent and we want to have unity and were going to have unity and its going to happen very quickly and i have been saying lately, success will bring unity to our country dropping. All right, so there he said on stage, tremendous talent and the Republican Party, we want to have unity thats gonna happen. Now, listen to what he had to say on the mark levine show. He was not terribly complimentary let the beginning, she was very nice, very respectful, and then shes gotten crazy. And ive never seen anything like it. Shes gone off the wagon. Id never seen she got so angry, sees a bitter person. I never saw. Is that all right. So trump describes her as an angry, a bitter, a bitter person. I do also want to just update everyone. The Haley Campaign did just send out a release saying that she is going to deliver remarks in charleston today at 10 00 a. M. Eastern time. Our teams are working on sorting through exactly what what this announcement could be. Obviously, she had a Tough Night Last night on super tuesday, very unclear what her path forward a could be. Jeff, lets talk about the haley voters and haley supporters. I mean, this this Biden Campaign memo that came out at five really talks about how those people represent an opportunity for the president of the United States. Where do you think these voters are going to go . Well, look, Donald Trumps going to squander the opportunity to actually build bridges with these folks that supported nikki haley. What weve seen show up as an average of about 35 state to state is crossed up through this point in the primaries. Theres nikkis work was important in this process. Shi quan when a the heartburn inside the Republican Party, that just as consistent folks that have just dont believe theyre republicans or conservative, theyre like me, but they dont believe that the 2020 election was rigged. Theyre fiscally conservative. Their former republicans had donald trump alienated throughout his last umpteen years of doing exactly what hes done. The democrats who used to be republic thats a, thats a 35 grouping that is really quantifiable heartburn and its important work. Its interesting to hear donald trump call her angry, right . Nice and sweet or whatever his words were. First parts of the campaign, which i think was a mistake on her part. I think it was a mistake on hurs and ron desantis is but when shes not angry, she would just being honest and truthful and calling out donald trump for what he is. And thats a liar you know, the weird part about this race though, is that its really hard to dictate a determined nikki haleys future because this election even last nights shellacking was not a referendum on nikki haley i mean, the people who voted for donald trump were always going to vote for donald trump in the peat at people who voted for nikki haley or the Geoff Duncans of the world . Yeah. All right. And so that its unique, i believe she has a path forward in 2028 or whatever because you know what shes also has is she raised 28 in between january and february, and i know she didnt spend all that let me pause because we do have some Breaking News here just in to cnn. Cnn Breaking News. Nikki haley will announce today that she is exiting the president ial race according to sources, familiar with her plans, she plans to address supporters in charleston at 10 00 a. M. And today with us now, is kylie atwood. She is in South Carolina and is the person who broke this news for us, kylie, what have you learned . Yeah so were learning according to sources familiar with nikki haleys campaign, that she is going to announce today that she is suspending that president ial campaign. This comes after she has been running for president for more than a year, but it also comes after last night, she suffered losses across the board on super tuesday, her campaign saying just moments ago that she is set to deliver remarks this morning in charleston. That is her hometown. Her in her home state of South Carolina, at 10 00 a. M. So we will watch to see that speech from her. And i do want to point out that last night weve heard from the campaign in spokesperson thanking The Americans who have voted for nikki haley saying that there are millions of them and also pointing out very clearly that in nikki haleys perspective, there is still not unity within the Republican Partys saying that there are a large block of voters republican primary voters, who dont stand with donald trump, making it quite clear in that statement that nikki haley is not poised, at least at the time that they sent that statement out to endorse the former president well watch to see her language surrounding that today as this makes it very clear that donald trump is now set to be the nominee of the Republican Party kylie. I know she didnt have an event last night around the events. Can you talk a little bit about kind of what the mood was among people you were talking to last night as they were trying to decide what to do moving forward. And i am interested in this question too, about what she decides to do about an endorsement if not now, perhaps later, what else do you know about any timeline on Something Like that well, listen, yesterday, we werent hearing a lot from the campaign at all. And casey, youve covered campaigns for long enough to know that thats pretty telling. Of course, there were no public remarks that nikki haley had scheduled gould. There werent any Campaign Events that she had scheduled beyond super tuesday events that happened in texas on monday. So it was clear that they were really focused in on the results last night to determine the future of her campaign. And obviously as they tabulated everything that was coming in, it was clear enough to them that they felt that this was the moment for her to bow out, not to continue campaigning on. Now, when you talk to campaign officials, they also said that there was a sense of jubilation among the Campaign Last night that they were happy worries that they were feeling but i do think that nikki, haleys campaign feels like she did what she set out to do, which of course not becoming the nominee is not ideal. She wanted to be the nominee of the party, but she did set out to try and make the case that there is an Alternative Pathway forward for the Republican Party here she truly believes that there are principles that the Republican Party should stand for, that donald trump does not stand for, and she made that case incredibly clearly throughout the entire course of her Campaign Just last week, she was campaigning in more than ten states leading into super tuesday, even though they knew that the stakes were going to be incredibly high, that the odds were incredibly low, that she was actually going to be able to clinch the nomination. She was still out there campaigning, making sure that americans who wanted an alternative to former President Trump had an option that they could choose in her. All right. Kylie atwood. Thanks very much for your Great Reporting for being on top of it for us this morning. Really appreciate it our panel is back with us. David, let me just put this question to you. Is this the right call for her to get out right now . It is blook in president ial politics, theres nothing more difficult than talking to a candidate in a. Campaign. Under these conditions, but its the right decision for hurts, right decision for the party. The bigger challenge i think has alluded earlier was what does she do in regards to donald trump . I would be surprised if she endorsed him today, but i believe between now and are convention in milwaukee, she will she committed to the rnc to get on the debates stage that she would make that choice . Yeah. Although she kinda went back on that and interview recently, if you want to have a future in this party, fair . Not on the president ial level. Shes going to have to get behind the nominee. And thats another calculus. Her and her team are going to have to make, maybe not today, but in the weeks ahead for sure. So when we should hear, shes already said thus far that she couldnt bring herself to support the other leading candidate, right . That being President Biden. This is somebody who worked for President Trump to sometimes i feel like that gets lost a bit in this fastpaced election season. She is somebody who worked in his administration as well. So thats immediately what i look towards, but i think this is, this becomes the immediate pressing question now. But i mean these somewhat one of the stories of the sort of trump era is many republicans coming out and criticizing him for various pivotal moments, whether he, when he was president or even post his presidency, and then quickly there king a trip to maralago, or coming out and once again, pledging support for him. So this immediately becomes the question. Now, let me extinguish any burning notion that nikki haley will not endorse donald trump. I mean, that is that is just a Fantasy World that a lot of pundits may live in finding reasons to the pretzel themselves to say, nikki haley will not do this. Look, shes going to do it is going to come in a moment where both of them can stand on a stage together and say that were unifying the Party Sometimes with trump, with letter stand on the same stages, him i mean, you can already see the cinema behind it. I mean, its about unifying the party. Its a good day. The moment everybody is going to say, oh, my god, this is terrible for democrats because republicans are unifying i think the flip side of this is, this is no longer 1984 or 88 or 92, or whenever it is that republicans nominate the number two to be the standardbearer Going Forward, nikki haley is not the is not the Republican Party pretty number two. She she she literally and i was just reading. I loved article. I mean, i actually think we can look. I was reading the Washington Post is a great, theres a great piece in here this morning by robyn, given it says people arent voting for haiti. Theyre voting for themselves like this is exactly right. This isnt some oh, my god, nikki haley is the next shining star. Shes not going to be someone who is a bastion of antitrumpism, who stands for the age of morality, and fiscal responsibility that was the Republican Party of a of a day gone by. I think i think she happened to be somebody for the moment that people could vote for themselves and not have the vote for donald trump in a primary. My encouragement should really read the newspapers on your guests. Thats the whole point of the news for nikki haley not to endorse donald trump. I believe its a mistake i believe its not moving forward for the party. And what will be a shortterm sugar high and i just named a number of individuals. Kevin mccarthy tim scotts moment where just cringeworthy at best. I mean, weve talked about it ad nauseam. Its a mistake. And i believe theres a number of folks, this 35 of republicans that didnt vote for donald trump in these, in these primaries were going to be absolutely disappointed to think somebody would just want to preserve their political career and not do the right thing. Look, if were going to turn the tide as the Republican Party, if were going to turn the tide as a country weve got to be more serious minded than just petty politics or shortterm wins. Weve got to go figure out a way to get Real Solutions on the table, right . Well, i mean, we should be focussing. We havent even talked about the state of the union. I mean, the whole country hes gonna be holding their breath, seeing if joe biden can even get through this speech. And here we are as republicans just in fighting. Its i would encourage or not to shes done a great job. Shes worked hard, shes put a great message and shes certainly achieved a number of goals along the way. No. I mean, i just look at your former candidate, ron desantis mean whats the first thing he did . I think the quote was you rather eat that sandwich now. And he did it and it was lukewarm at best. I mean, hes still been a thorn and donald trump side the campaign is Still Holding it against ron desantis, but he went ahead and did it. Nikki haley is shes gonna do anything. Shes going to put her political career in selfinterest first she might have done something knowable for the Republican Party during this campaign, but i believe its backed that nikki haley able yeah, its way too early for that Sandwich Analogy but look, im just i was thinking it was, well, look, i think i think the point here, its important to remember with republican primary voters actual republicans, even in New Hampshire, donald trump won 7525. So what nikki haleys done is relied on a lot of crossover democrats and independents, whether that was in iowa to agree, certainly New Hampshire, but we even saw it in South Carolina and a bit yesterday. And so if she wants to have a future in the party, she has to play within the party parameters. And if she doesnt and wants to lead a Movement Outside of it thats her prerogative, but its going to be very lonely out there both from a Donor Standpoint and certainly from electoral one. Yeah. I mean, i sort of see that in some ways she has boxed yourself in. I mean, shes learned the power of i mean, the aggressive fundraising that comes from opposing donald trump. Shes clearly leaned into attacking him in ways that shes wasnt comfortable doing at the beach beginning, i do think if youre going to argue, hey, this is my political center. I mean, shes got some serious just got a serious turn to make if shes going to endorse trump, lets bring in Alayna Treene, who is with us here in our dc bureau. She covers trump for us. Alayna, good morning. Thanks so much for being here what are you hearing from the trump team as this . News is breaking this morning that nikki haley is planning to exit the president ial race later on today. Well, you can expect that they will be very happy with this news, casey, and this has really and i reported some of this yesterday. This was their goal for super tuesday. They wanted to have very much a definitive win across the board enough so to force Nikki Haley Out of the race. And thats exactly what were seeing play out with her remarks coming at 10 00 a. M. Later today. And i will say, you know, for weeks now, donald trump and his team have been pivoting already to a General Election strategy. They really felt that nikki haley was standing in the way of making it official that he would be the nominee knee, but they had already been really turning their attention to november and two taking on joe biden. But this will help them in a number of ways, having donald trump be declared the presumptive nominee. Of course, we have to see what will happen with the upcoming primaries. We knew that they were really hoping to be able to declare him the presumptive nominee next week with some of the other races that would really give him the necessary 1,215 delegates to make it so, but the whole goal for them is to be able to do that as early as possible, which they now feel they will be able to do and really unite the Republican Party behind him. They want to be able to pull from not just the republican can hold out voters that they are looking for, but also donors and the money part here is a huge deal. They want to be able to have the rnc officially be able to come behind donald trump to use the infrastructure of the national Republican Party to boost him in a potential general Election Campaign alina, can i ask you . Weve been talking here at the table about how haley would handle an endorsement of trump, what her future might be in the party from the trump perspective, i mean, there was no love lost between these two even before this primary got underway. I mean, hes sort of private. My understanding is having toxic to people about it. Like he privately snubbed her around, requested have dinner with him and some other things that were not normally how trump would necessarily basically this has signaled trump was pretty unhappy with her. How is he likely to interact with her Going Forward . Say if she was willing to endorse him or are we more likely to see him continue to attack her . You know, its interesting. I think we can look at ron desantis as part of this, you know, donald trump for the majority of last year, had railed against ron desantis, the florida governor. Lot of that was from personal animosity against him for believing he wasnt loyal. And then once he came out and endorsed him, donald trump kind of laid off and actually they were willing to embrace ron desantis if he were to be a surrogate, of course, thats a different case, but its actually a little bit different with nikki haley from my conversations with Trumps Campaign, they believe that nikki haley has gone too far. Weve reported this many times that donald trump has been grumbling even long after his aides had told him to just focus on so biden, hes been very frustrated with nikki haley for remaining in the race for as long as she did end, has been very frustrated with her criticism of him. They feel that shes really gone very far, not only in that criticism, but also with some of her policy. So i think itll be harder for donald trump and his campaign to embrace her for if she were to endorse, of course, thats a big question. If she would even do that after what she has been saying on the trail in the last several months. So i think an interest of relationship between them will never be what it once was. I dont think theres going to be a wholehearted embrace of nikki haley, regardless of whether she endorses the other part of this, too, i just want to bring up is that they really do not think that nikki haley is a part of the trump Republican Party, and thats what a lot of this will come down to. I think regardless of what she does with the potential endorsement, they see her as being a different part of republicanism, a different part of conservatism, someone that does not represent the trump ideals. So i have a very hard time believing that theyll, theyll find a strong place for her in the trump world or in the trump operation looking forward, but we dont really know there are times when donald trump has had a lot of critics in the past who have fiercely attacked him. And then later on embrace them for the sake of the party as his advisers argue, they would rather fight democrats than fight republicans. But well see what happens indeed, we will. All right, Alayna Treene for us, alina, thank you very much. I mean, i think we should just take a beat to to just point out, you know, what nikki haley has accomplished in this race. I mean, she went farther than i think a lot of people expected her to certainly when she first gotten it was driven by Debate Performances early on and she did for as much as people have been joking about vermont and the District Of Columbia kind of already here. She is the first woman to win a republican president ial primary contest. But i think thats right. I think it was mentioned earlier that even though you have trumps sort of talking about how the party is unified, clearly there was some representation here of the frustration with the former president what he represents more broadly, just sort i think theres a lot while i speak to a lot of voters, even on the democratic side, that often talk about sort of the remainder of the status quo with these candidates as well. So i i think there she represents some of that frustration as well when it comes to the age of these candidates and sort of a lack of satisfaction with them. Youre right, there was also the Debate Performances. I mean, going up against ramaswamy as well. And sort of some of those moments definitely benefited her. And you also saw her lean on sunday the experience both in State Government as well as Foreign Policy experience. But i mean clearly, trump has grip on this party right now yeah. I mean i think my question just comes back to bakari, her voters, right . Like these people are showing up, even if many of them are independence, there are democrats, right in some of these, in some states they are now theres, its a chunk of the Republican Party. I mean, there is a sizable constituency in the United States right now, the fuel is politically homeless, right . Conversations about third parties are more impactful this cycle than theyve been in a really long time. I mean, all of the the polls show that people are really unhappy with their choices. I mean, where do those people go . So first, the push back on the frame of the question a little bit is a presumption that they have to go somewhere and i dont think theyll just stay home. I believe that is a huge risk that well see in this election. And thats a greater risk for the president of the United States and the former president. And that is what theyre guarding against this apathy. That means that voters, particularly voters of color, will stay home, also pushed back on the presumption that there is a there is a nikki haley voter. I still dont believe that to be the case. I think that the third of the third of the people that you see, the overwhelming majority of those people who did not vote for donald trump are going to come home to the Republican Party. I mean, that is just the way politics is they the overwhelming majority are going to vote for donald trump in november. Theyre going to be some that do not. And those individuals that we look at who voted uncommitted or who voted for. Oh, whats the gas name from minnesota . I dont know any run for president and the Democratic Side Plus name come up an area and ramzan, the other one that one, sorry, sorry. Its not going to figure out under your revenue that one that would end Dean Phillips, those individuals who voted uncommitted it for Dean Phillips and Marion Williamson the question is, theyre not going to vote for donald trump. The question is, can joe biden get them to come out . I mean, thats the question, jeff, what do you make of all this back . The napkin math right now, if were all being honest democrats and republicans is theres 100 Million People in america that are unhappy with their selection if its joe biden and donald trump, theres 100 million folks and theyre there for a number of reasons, right . If youre a republican and youre not what donald trump, its because you dont believe the 2020 election was rigged. Its because youre disgusted by the personal behavior. Youre disgusted by the latter. Ethics and morals and values and the family how do i explain to my teenage kids how to act and grow up when somebody whos supposed to be the head of my party acts and doesnt says its the same thing to do. Democrats have their own list of issues and im sure you would wish, if you can hit the reset button, youd pick somebody younger than joe biden, somebody was more polished in policy, centered. But the reality is thats where we have cultural problems in our parties. And for your accompany and you have a Culture Problem, you dont make micro size changes, you change the leader and to me this is the tectonic shift nikki haley proved that theres a Culture Problem inside the Republican Party in its exact, the exact number is 35 that creates the permanent math problem for donald trump in this coming election. No matter how bad joe biden is, donald trump cannot beat him this is what i think were all kind of getting at, which is did any support that nikki haley have represent sort of actual support for that candidate or rather a discontent for the other two candidates. Exit polls and even when we started the cycle, really we modeled and it was almost equal across the board in thirds, there was a third of the primary electorate across the board that was always going to be not consider trump. They were not going to vote for donald trump in a primary or caucus cycle. There was another third that was always going to support trump. The real meat of the debate was the middle third, which was considered trump and others, they had voted, supported him in the past, but were open to another candidate. Thats where we tried to get him on the Desantis Side and battle them. And it was really hard lane. But as the tim scotts of the world and others started to drop out, nikki grew in that never consider trump universe. So unfortunately for her, it wasnt a prohaley universe. It was just a universe of folks that to the Governors Point where dissatisfied with donald trump, were not going to support him across the board. And she fit that model that doesnt translate into the future very well. I dont think david, what would you say to i mean, her argument here, the end of the Campaign Trail is a donald trump is a loser, and thats borne out in the data that weve seen some 2020, the 2022 midterms. I mean, theyre all sorts of two Georgia Senate races, right . But are down donald trump held by democrats like there is obviously a headtohead General Election should match up between trump and biden is a different question, and you can, from joe bidens perspective, its compare me to the alternative, not the almighty. I get that, but i still dont see how the Republican Party ends up being. The evidence contradicts the claim that the Republican Party can be a Majority Party in the us with the circumstances being what they are right now. Look, its very the hard to make an argument that donald trump is a loser after a Night Light Last night. And i dont think anyones saying that he isnt a primary for sure, but the primary electorate is very different from the country it is. But even if you look at the data from the york times polling this past weekend, i mean, 28 of democrats are very enthusiastic about joe biden, 40 or 23 , 48 of republicans are. And so if youre talking about looking forward into november, joe bidens the one that has a real base problem right now. I mean, with minority voters, with men maybe hell do exceedingly well in the suburbs today. I dont know how we get that. I mean, i listened joe, biden doesnt have a base problem, drove out and has a very loud minority that oppose certain policy views, particularly that in gaza that, that does not equate to joe biden having a base problem. The fact is if you go back and look at last nights super tuesday and you compare it sidebyside with barack obama in 2012 joe about the outperformed them like so this whole narrative that i mean, its weird how narratives get baked into our lexicon. Joe biden has a base problem. He doesnt. Joe biden is old. Yes. But so is donald trump. I mean, we have to reframe the argument when were talking about joe biden, nobody is cured, nobodys carrying about whether or not he can complete speech on thursday, i heard that being said, but my friend jeff, the question is, what is he going to say . I do. We have to push pause because were hitting the bottom half of the hour here and i do want to reset. Im Breaking News before we continue this conversation. We continue our coverage now with Breaking News cnn Breaking News this just in to cnn, nikki haley expected to exit the president ial race later on this morning. She lost a sweeping loss to donald trump in the super tuesday primaries yesterday. She plans to address supporters in South Carolina at 10 00 a. M. We did not hear from Nikki Haley Last Night she was in private Behind Closed Doors as these results were rolling in. So this is going to be the first that weve heard from im her about what she plans to do next. Let me bring my panel back in and we were kind of resetting this argument in terms of talking about these voters, these people that back to nikki haley, right . Who feel like they are politically homeless in a situation where youve got joe biden and donald trump and bakari, you and david were i didnt want to cut that off because he said, democrats have a base problem. You say that thats not true, but the numbers contradict that. I mean, the numbers, especially among black voters are tough for President Biden. If theyre not, theyre tougher than they were if you believe that 23 of black voters are going to vote for donald trump. I just want to go ahead and sell you that bridge in brooklyn. Thats why are they telling pollsters that they will win . Because first of all, we have to begin to turn the page on polls and actually read cross tabs. And we have to begin to actually analyze how these polls, many of these polls that were referring to, r plus seven or r plus eight so when you actually look at these polls and youre looking at the voter now, is their discontentment among black voters with what theyre saying in washington dc. The answer is yes. Is there a question or a disconnect between the policies that have been passed and whether or not they fill it in their pocket. The answer is yes, but we have to get out of this Social Media Bubble where people run to the fact that meek mill is accurate tweeting something about thats pro trump or pro republican talk points are kila mic is out here traversing the land with robert f. Kennedy and All Of A Sudden were saying democrats have this base problem that is not the case. They are their messages that need to be heated. Yes. But but we are saying the 35 that voted against donald trump, thats hard and fast. Biden its putting up win after win after win without seeing that consternation. Referring to briefly, and then were going to say from the political experts to democrats, people around the campaign, ive talked to, its not a matter of the black, the black voters going towards trump. But what you talked about earlier, which is a risk that they could stay home, that is a real concern for those around the World White House and the democratic. All right, lets bring in kylie atwood. She is our reporter who covers nikki haley. Shes down in South Carolina with the latest and shes got some new reporting for us, kylie, what are you know . Yeah. So as were expecting nikki haley to announce that she suspending her president ial campaign today. Shes also not expected according to sources familiar with her plans to endorse former President Trump today, what she is going to do is make the case that he should be courting the reporters who had the excuse me, the voters who have supported her throughout the course of this campaign, those are republican voters, those are independent voters. Those are voters that she believes he will need if he is going to win a General Election. So this does not appear to mean that she will not endorse trump at all before the november her election. But what shes going to do today is really make the case that he needs to reach out to those voters. We also should expect her, casey too hard. Trump on the themes that we have heard from her throughout the entire course of her campaign the need for there to be fiscal responsibility conservative fiscal responsibility in us policy the need for there to be a certain approach to Foreign Policy that we havent heard from former President Trump. So shes really teeing up what will be a conversation between her and the former president and her voters over the course of the next few months here and will really we just have to walk and see how that plays out because we dont know how the former president is going to respond to that. If hes going to play ball with her and engage with her voters because what we have heard from him over the course of the last few months is that he doesnt want those people who are supporting all right. I think we may have lost her live shot. We will come back to her in just a moment, but we do have a way to train standing by for us. Alayna, what do you here in this new reporting, kiley has, in terms of the planned haley at pitch to say, hey, you cant, you cant win a General Election without my voters i mean, its something that i think Donald Trumps team recognized as they know that any sort of General Election rematch with joe biden is going to be very close despite what the polls have been saying. And of course theyd like to tout the ones that show that donald trump is beating joe biden in a hypothetical rematch. They recognize that it would be very close and they cant take any voters for granted. And so i think obviously nikki haley has a point here and i think what we saw on super tuesday, particularly her strength with suburban voters, is something that Trumps Campaign needs to internalize and in plays into their upcoming strategy and some of especially in these Battleground States like arizona, michigan, georgia, the ones they know that they really need to go full force ahead in the coming months to try and beat joe biden. But look, i also just want to point out that i think donald trump very much is going to remain donald trump regardless of what nikki haley says, regardless of what other people says, hes always had a problem with more moderate voters, more independent voters. Again, something that the Trump Campaign recognizes they need to work on, but hes going to continue using the rhetoric that turns a lot of these people off and thats another part of this as well. His campaign knows that donald trump is very much a polarizing figure, even as theyve been repeatedly telling him to only focus on joe biden over the last couple of weeks we saw last night when he did a radio interview, he still attacked nikki haley pretty fear fiercely. And so i think itll be interesting to see how they move forward. And i also just want to add casing the conversations im having with Donald Trumps campaign right now about this theyre expecting that trump himself will be weighing in on the announcement that nikki haley is exiting the race at some point, they expect hell be the one to have the first word potentially on truth, social as weve seen seeing him do with similar announcements in the past. And were still waiting to see whether or not theyre going to be giving remarks at all. More former remarks in relation to this news. I know that donald trump had wanted to hold a big event, maybe get up on stage at maralago again when it seems like he was going to be the Presumptive Republican nominee. So i think those are questions that will be looking into today. What do you think alayna, the sort of as kylie was reporting that theres not going to be an endorsement today. How much does that get under trumps skin . I think it gets under his skin a lot. I know that they want they will say ill put it this way. I think a lot of the republican rivals that he had initially who had dropped out in immediately doris tim, you saw the way that donald trump reacted and embrace them. We saw doug burgum, tim scott, a lot of his strong rivals being surrogates now for donald trump, i do not expect that to happen with nikki haley, and i think the fact that shes not going to immediately endorsed that she has these messages for Don Donald Trump about how he should be running his campaign. Of course, thats not going to sit well with him or his team. And so i think thats just going to add further to their unwillingness to want to embrace there at all, looking forward, of course, its also unclear if nikki haley even wants to be embraced are associated with donald trump moving forward and his campaign all right, Alayna Treene for us. Alina. Thank you. Were going to go now to arlette saenz. Shes at the white house for us kinda check in with where the Biden Campaign and the white house stand as they are taking in this news. Obviously, arlette, nikki haley and her voters, again, i think this is really the important part to underscore this group of people that, whether they were voting for nikki haley or they were voting against trump and against biden or whatever. There are group of people out there who are saying we dont want either trump or biden. And the biden team in this campaign memo, they put out at 05 00 this morning, says that, hey, those are people that they can potentially get. Whats the latest that youre here . Hearing and whats your take on this as weve watched these results unfold over the last 12 hours well, kasie biden, campaign officials, ive spoken to in recent weeks have long felt that super tuesday would be the moment that this race crystallizes between joe biden and donald trump in the latest proof point in that argument is the fact that nikki haley is expected to win draw from the president ial race today. And one thing the Biden Campaign will be working on very hard in the coming months is trying to see if they can tap into those haley voters who are turned off by donald trump, the Senior Campaign officials, says as much in a memo last night as they offered their assessments of the super tuesday results saying that president former President Trump came out as a damage and unpopular candidate and jen omalley, dillon and julie chavez rodriguez, the two women leading the Biden Campaign. A wrote, quote, a significant share of moderate and haley voters across the country are saying that trump cannot count on their votes in a General Election and that will be key for biden Going Forward, whether they can tap into those haley voters, those moderate voters, those suburban women who do not want to see donald trump have a second term in the white house. The Biden Campaign has long argued Reproductive Rights is a key vulnerability for donald trump has that is something that they think will also play with moderate voters as well. And its not just a haley voters that the Biden Campaign will be going after its also haley donors ive had conversations with Fundraising Officials over the course of the past few months and they have believed that there might be a universe of haley donors that they could also tap into. But clearly the Biden Campaign thinks this is the is certainly a number of. Challenges facing President Biden and tomorrow he will have one of the most high profile moments to offer his vision for a second term and try to convince voters to give him another its for years and the white house with the state of the Union Address tomorrow night. All right. Arlette saenz for us signs for us at the white house. Arlette. Thank you very much for that reporting. 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And after he essentially swept with the exception of vermont, the super tuesday states last night, donald trump in a commanding position here to become the republican nominee, our party or our panel is about, were having a party right . Panels here. Glass Breaking News party this morning. I want to show you a little bit of haleys sort of final critique of donald trump. This was her campaigning over the weekend as she was heading into super tuesday. And it really highlights in a pretty stark way the challenges that, both trump and i mean honestly, biden also will face challenges in the General Election in terms of fighting over the moderate and independent voters that currently feel homeless. She put it in the context here of donald trump watch we lost in 2018, we lost in 2020, we lost in 2022. But look, two weeks ago, republicans lost the vote on mayorkas. They lost a vote on israel. The rnc chair lost her job, and Donald Trumps fingerprints were on all of it. How much more losing do we have . To do before we realize maybe donald trump is the problem i mean, David Polyansky after that, how do you really go crawling back to the donald trump wing of the party well, look, i mean, memories are short i remember being with senator cruz and cleveland at a Convention Speech where he it didnt endorse donald trump and just a few months later was one of his biggest allies and surrogates and has become so on the hills. So politics makes strange bedfellows. You say what you need to say on the Campaign Trail. But ultimately, i believe nikki haley will endorse donald trump. I think shell be part of the program to get donald trump elected this november i think if she wants to have a role in future in the party, shes going to need to do that sooner than later, and i expect she will. The difference though, and i i have to disabuse us of this kind of notion or talking point that the similarities between joe biden or the issues that joe biden and donald trump have are the same fundamental, the fundamental issues that donald trump has are not going to change their issues of character, their issues of fitness history is history. He lost those things. Hes being branded as a loser. Hes struggling with mike johnson to find any footwork or or any any stability when youre talking about policy this was repeal and replace republicans. They havent been able to replace obamacare with absolutely anything there. They have nothing but a no on immigration and so those are thats the Foundation Of Who donald trump is. What joe biden there are things that can change. For example, if there is some semblance of a ceasefire or permanent ceasefire in gaza. And we believe that theyre inching closer and closer to a least a period of time where theres a cessation of forces backandforth. If that happens, that changes the economy, which weve seen him actually beat strongest wall street performing the s p nasdaq, all performing extremely well if those things continue to go in the direction theyre going, that is a plus in the right direction and when hes, on thursday, if hes on stage and hes able to lay out a clear vision on what Immigration Reform actually looks like. And the democrats are the party of immigration Going Forward. Thats different then the problem i take all these points, i really do. But like i disagree, youd mentioned this earlier about how you didnt think people are gonna be watching the speech, to watch joe bidens performance, President Bidens performance. And i just i sort of have to push back on that a little bit because i think that this is as much about joe biden, the man and what people see from him and the fundamental reality that you just, you cant turn back the clock. It just doesnt work that way. I mean, this is what people are telling us theyre worried about. But joe biden is not going to look like tom cruise. I mean, hes not going go out there and think anyone expects that hes not going to go out there and All Of A Sudden become Matthew Mcconaughey and start i mean, hes hes old that is, we as american just want them to look like a president , act like a president , talk like a president , a talk like the leader of the free world. And i think thats the position were in. If im a democrat, im sitting here going. How is how is the sitting president with all those accolades that you talked about the economy, the s p nasdaq, all of those other howard so youre not 20 points ahead of a guy whos got 91 charges against them, four separate indictments, federal, state charges. The next seven months are going to be absolutely brutal watching facts, figures that evidence come out that donald trump lied, tried to coerce people to do awful things. I mean, were going to watch this continue to play out. I think nikki haley has to continue doing what shes done that Closing Argument was spot on. Right. And to see her change her tune just because she wants to chase a shortterm sugar high. I disagree with. I push back on that notion. I think shes done exactly what she needs to do. It needs to keep doing because if im skating to where the puck is going in the Republican Party republicans are going to get beat joe biden is going to limp his way into the white house again for a second term. Republicans are going to be beat. And then what . Then what, so now we have a whole list of potential candidates that have endorsed donald trump and have to take a shower. Its not a big enough shower to wash donald trump off you. I just want to follow up on one thing when it comes to present biden, it seems like the status the union as well. It is a bit twofold. There were folks in the white house last year when he had that backandforth with House Republicans over medicare and social security. They were watching performance. They actually thought that was a response to some of the concerns about his age, the the fact that he was able to move on his feet and engage in that for tat, its twofold hold when he looked at the state of the union, one addressing the concerns about his age and that being how does he have another moment like that if his republican critics to speak up in the crowd, but also, i think the greater challenge, more pressing challenge for democrats is he has passed a lot, a lot of people dont feel it and a lot of people dont understand whats in those bills. So how does how do you articulate a cohesive digestible message of what you have passed and these past couple of years, thats right. Look, i think with trump, you look at whats happened on the legal front. I think as we came into this year, most people expected he would be on trial sooner. He would potentially be convicted sooner you started yesterday all right. And in fact, there were a lot of people both in the Republican Party and outside of it, who assumed he might even be in handcuffs by the end of this year . Thats not going to happen. In number two, when you look at the issues that matter most to voters, number one, immigration, President Bidens at 18 with voters on that issue, theres nothing hes going to be able to save from the state of union thats going to turn that around. Brown theres an interesting moment right now with even the immigration because for a while, yes, youre right. Its been one of his greatest political vulnerabilities and practical vulnerabilities as well. Its a big challenge, its intractable, but theres a moment here that youre seeing a shift in strategy them actually, im not saying i dont know if it will be successful, but but not distancing themselves for my going on the offensive to say that House Republicans, the republicans in congress are the ones that have roadblock this. But we might hear but also again, i mean immigration is a number is a large looming issue, right . That is an issue that democrats have to tackle. And joe biden does not do well in comparison to donald trump on that issue when polling. But on the flip side of this, you have a Major Driving force that weve seen Win Elections in places like ohio and kansas, which has turned out voters in one seats and maintain seats in the senate. And that is the issue of abortion and you cannot. Donald trumps going to try to oh, my goodness, i cant use that phrase of splitting. Hes going to try to hes going to hes going to try to thread the needle is a better, better analogy. He wanted to try to thread the needle and say, although i am responsible for the reason that dobbs is law now you know, i also want to make sure door that women have a right to choose and thats just not something thats going to happen. So you know, to articulate a Counter Point to your policy point there. Yeah. Immigration and crime are Achilles Heels right now, and were trying to figure that out as we, as democrats are finally paying attention to those two issues. But on the issues of the abortion, Reproductive Rights in the economy, those are winners for democrats right now. Right . And youre also seeing those latter points that you made abortion as well. Youre seeing them also talk about that under the umbrella of democracy. And im interested to see how that resonates yesterday, late last night present biden Statement Issued through the campaign definitely focused on democracy. We saw mcdonalds as well as recent new yorker piece say that thats the way theyre going to talk about these issues as you get closer to the election, watching to see if that resonates. Sorry, go ahead and i was just going to say look at the end of the day in november, i think people are going to vote with what matters most to them and their families. Thats do they feel safe at home . Do they have the money they need to put their kids through school . Pay for textbooks, pay for groceries, and take care of their families. And right now, voters are not giving joe biden the benefit of the doubt even if as we see the economy climb bad, dont disagree with and he certainly has a long way to go in battling both his base and where the most of the nation is at on immigration and crime. It is going to be a tough haul for him. Jeff, can i ask you about january 6 and the Democracy Argument because we are seeing this is clearly something that for President Biden is incredibly important to him. It is a motivating, animating issue for him and so on referenced this evan osnos piece that came out in the new yorker where it was very clear that he and his team were very focused on that. This is not an area where you you saw nikki haley attacked donald trump vociferously at the end of her campaign in a lot of different ways. She kinda steered clear of what happened on january 6 why is that . And i mean, i know that you have a lot of friends, family, people youve talked to all the time, who are republicans in georgia who are not fans of donald trump . Youve talked to them. How much does what happened on january 6 factor in . Do you think that this Democracy Argument is one that would resonate with them starting with january 6, is probably one of the worst moments ive seen in my lifetime. And 48 years certainly theres others. September 11 and whatnot, but it certainly was it was a moment in time that showed how vulnerable our democracy was. I remember Governor Kemp and i talking about its sitting in atlanta at the capitol watching this play out in front of us just put yourself when you were at january 7, republican democrat independent just put yourself where youre at january 7. Did anybody in the right mind think donald trump ever had a chance to be elected to anything . Because you knew you could tangibly feel how culpable he was for that moment in time. That moment of insanity for this country, that moment of just Terminal Velocity towards the wrong direction. But here we are. And i think whats happening and i think ron desantis made a misstep here. I think nikki haley made a misstep then in that they didnt take fight to donald trump. They didnt take the fight and just call out january 6 for what it was, didnt call out donald trump for being a fake republican for raising the debt. 1 trillion, for not actually building a border wall. He built a selfie station, but not a wall right . Heed. He was a fake republican and they didnt do that early enough. And i think that helped that hurt that trajectory because to your point earlier, third a third, a third, a third, never going to vote for donald trump. A third always going to vote for donald trump. And that third in the middle was trying to look for somebody that had the substance to get across the finish line and actually have a chance to the problem with the Democracy Argument. And i was talking with Terrance Woodbury yesterday, whos a poster . And we were at a National UrbanLeague Policy forum where they were talking about the state of black america, the problem with the Democracy Argument, particularly for black and brown. And young voters, is that they dont feel that argument, feeling that something is broken when its never really worked for them in a firstplace. So there is a there is somewhat of a removed sense from that Democracy Argument thats why this thats why this campaign, the Biden Campaign, has a unique task of tying in things like capping credit card fees or insulin or Student Loan Debt relief and all of those things that theyve done, right . A showing that theyve actually effectuate change. But joe biden, what gets him going every morning is protecting democracy. And so is this really weird . Tug and pull that theyre having to face to jeffs point, david, i mean, do you think if you had you look back on the desantis campaign, did you, ms an opening no the minute donald trump was indicted, the race was really over. It was over an iowa. But the minute he was indicted, he was the nominee you saw in every way, measurable, not just from polling and cross tabs, but just as importantly on the ground. I mean, you saw a sense of of momentum and energy get behind him because the former president did a very effective job of making the fight against him legally, a fight against conservatives at fight against the party, and a fight against the country. And thats a very difficult message to push back on. Weather hits on trillions of dollars in covid, spending not finishing the wall. There were a lot of criticisms against him. But when you veer too closely in that lane, you also found yourself being pitted on the same side, unfortunately, is the New York Times and others who criticized him. Thats a tough place to be in a primary. All right. Well, jeff bakari, david zolan. Thank you all for a Great Impromptu news conversation. This morning because again, nikki haley, again, we expect to exit the president ial race when she speaks to supporters at 10 00 a. M. This morning, dont go anywhere, stick with cnn as we cover this unfolding Breaking News