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Truthful with State Prosecutors can be a problem anymore all the time. Is that cohen really appreciate it. Thanks so much. The news continues to source with Kaitlan Collins starts now and straight from the source tonight, hes on a roll hours from an expected Super Tuesday blow out. Donald trump is just one big the Supreme Court, but inside the unanimous decision, theres a blistering warning about the consequences that were just unleashed. Also, a shout across the bow and benjamin nets yahoo, the Vice President meeting Behind Closed Doors today, with a top member of israels war cabinet. Just so happens to be netanyahus biggest political rival in israel. And also, there was not a dry eye In The City Of Brotherly Love today, as jason kelce bid an emotional goodbye to philadelphia, with travis looking on in tears. Theres not a whole lot to cry out for these to our friend bob costas is here live on the business of being the brothers, kelsey, im Kaitlan Collins, and this is the Source Supreme Court has not played this direct of a role in a president ial election since bush v. Gore. And tonight the ruling is unanimous. Thats how history will record Donald Trumps 90 victory today. But inside that same ruling, it is exposing deep cracks and that united front on the Supreme Court the justices offered very different ways of explaining the same result, but they did in the end agree that donald trump will remain on the ballot and of course this came just 24 hours before the first Super Tuesday polls are about to open now, just about nine hours from where we are at this moment. The biggest primary night and donald trump is expected to rack up blowout wins in buckets of delegates from coasttocoast, putting him within reach of the republican nomination. The question of whether he engaged in insurrection. Remember the one that the colorado courts found . Well, that was left untouched entirely today, too hot for the high court put a pin in that because weve a lot to discuss and well get to that and just a moment. The other thing that stood out from this though, was held Justice Amy Coney barrett cited at one point with the courts liberals and their uneasiness about the potential consequences of the reach. Just how broad it was of this ruling. But she also chastise Sotomayor Kagan and jackson for their language morning about turning down the national temperature, not cranking it up. She wrote at one point, quote, this is not the time to amplify disagreement but we are hearing from our sources tonight that trumps bigger concern is not what happened today. Its of whats to come from the Supreme Court. His claim of absolute immunity, of course, looms on the horizon. Right now. Its really giving him what he wants from this court more time to delay his potential trials. Thats what was so surprising to hear him today hours after we found out what the Supreme Court had decided, praising them for moving so quickly they worked hard and frankly, they worked very quickly oh and something that will be spoken about 100 years from now and 200 years from now, extremely important. I have Great Respect for the Supreme Court. And i want to just thank them for working so quickly and diligently and so brilliantly well see if. Thats still how he feels when he hears from them again, on his immunity ruling. But for now, were digging into what this ruling means with cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, Elliot Williams and nyu constitutional law professor kenji yoshino. But were going to begin with the conservative attorney who has argued in front of the Supreme Court and with people on this show about this very issue, George Conway is here and george, you initially said that you thought the Supreme Court would have a difficult time, your quote that i looked out today was avoiding the consequence of the plain language of the 14th Amendment. It was obviously a nine and okay. Call today. So i wonder what you made of this ruling. And if you feel differently now, i think i know i dont feel differently. I think they did have a very difficult time with it because i dont think any of the three opinions make any sense whatsoever. I think these opinions are fundamentally incoherent and theyre fundamentally arbitrary and i think that i think it just shows the difficulty the court had in trying to select an offramp here totally rejected the trump trumps principal arguments, which were that the president is somehow not an officer or the United States and the other argument which was that he did did not engage in an insurrection. And the latter i think is the most important takeaway from this. Notwithstanding donald trump declaring victory, he remains an adjudicated insurrectionist after this opinion because the Supreme Court did not, in, anyway, under cut or or contradict or suggest in any way there was any infirmity. And will fall in the factual findings made by the lower courts. Why do you think that was . Because because he is unquestionably an insurrection, is there really wasnt i mean, it would have been absurd for the court to try to redefine what it means to engage in an insurrection into engage and what an insurrection is to try to fit it to get donald trump off the hook. And thats what thats what the court was terrified about. They didnt want to go there. And you can see that sort of the terror in the opinions in the Concurring Opinions. I mean, Justice Barrett was just it just her opinion just exuded fear of the political consequences of the decision. And frankly, the does the Concurring Opinion. I know they theyre perceived as having attacked the Majority Opinion for going too far. But the problem was it wasnt overreach by the majority was under reached by all nine justices. And the Concurring Opinion, frankly, its criticisms of the Majority Opinion. Actually end up undermining the concurrence his own opinion as to s2, as to the result in the case which was to affirm well, thats interesting because wondering what you made this line because of what the liberal justices said about the majority that stood out to me where they said, quote, they decide novel constitutional questions to insulate this court and the petitioner from Future Controversy i dont honestly i cannot figure out exactly what they are talking about. There. And it may be a circumstance where the opinions were so quickly written that some of that language is held over from was held over from an earlier draft of the opinion. As far as i can see what the majority held was that states cannot enforce state whether restate officials or state courts cannot enforce section 14, Section Three of the 14th Amendment against any Person Running for federal office. And the basis for that without a congressional on ackman i dont think theres anything in that opinion that actually holds and that couldnt be because its not it wasnt presented by the case that there is somehow of insurrectionists are completely immunized from any kind of federal action to apply Section Three of the 14th Amendment i just dont see it in the Majority Opinion. And maybe it was there in a draft. I dont know, but i cant make Heads Or Tails, frankly, out of the Concurring Opinions anymore than i can make Heads Or Tails out of Majority Opinion and shati legal work all around by all the justices, the Concurring Opinions are definitely worth reading, but there was also this moment today where trump was scheduled to give remarks right after this came out, his team had a pretty good idea what was coming when the Supreme Court said they were going to announce an opinion today i think the idea was that he hes going to be touting this victory, but he ended up spending more time defending his Immunity Case. Heres part of what he said today another thing that will be coming up very soon will be immunity for president and not immunity for me, but for any president if a president doesnt have full immunity you really dont have a president because nobody that is serving in that office will have the courage to make. In many cases, what would be the right decision or it could be the wrong decision you heard between that and what he said earlier, praising the court for its brilliant and diligent work. I mean, how much do you expect that would change from today . What he said to what we could hear as soon as maybe june angel, i dont think i dont think hes going to be a happy camper in may or june whenever the Immunity Case comes down because i think this court, which was clearly motivated by fear of applying the law is going to be fearful of not applying the law and the Immunity Case because it would be such a horrible and terrible decision. I think theres no legal expert fuels otherwise that suggest that the president has the kind of absolute immunity from criminal, from criminal prosecution that trump asks more. And it may be true that there are some circumstances but that alkyl ones where congress could pass a law thats designed to infringe upon the upon the president s ability to carry out his offices and use a criminal sanction to do that. But thats just not this case. This is a case where the president tried to extend his term of office and violate the very clause of the constitution. The Executive Vesting Clause that says he has the Executive Power and nobody only has it for four years. And its just if, if the president cant be prosecuted here, then he can never be prosecuted. And its got nothing to do as trump suggests, with the president s having courage to do the right thing on the behalf of the country because he wasnt trying to do the right thing on behalf of the country. He was trying to do the wrong thing for the country, but for his own personal benefit. Yeah, he claimed today that the presidency would become a ceremonial position without that immunity, well see what they decide. George conway, we will bring you back certainly when that decision shan happens. Thank you. Thank you for that and for more on this and looking at what these Concurring Opinion said, i want to bring in elliott and kenji back into the conversation. Elliot, let me start with you because you said this five this was a 54 decision. You believe in unanimous decisions, clothing tell me what you mean by that every the takeaway is certainly the court was nine nothing and it was an unsigned unanimous opinion, but there was such difference between the four justices that wrote concurrences in how far the opinion went here. And yes, they are nominal, nominally, an agreement on the underlying why in question here. But theyre not and particularly in the backandforth between Justice Barrett and the other three justices, it was clear that there were some differences and maybe even some hard feelings over how this opinion came out. Well and can do when you look at these Concurring Opinions. I mean, if you read them closely, they kinda look more like dissents sharply the worded ones at that and there was one point where george was referencing there sotomayor, kagan and jackson were basically saying the court has gone way further than what they needed to do. All they needed to answer was who can enforce Section Three of the 14th Amendment. And then instead, they went way further than that, saying only an Act Of Congress can bar someone from being on the ballot of federal officeholder. Thats exactly right. And in fact, they jabbed that chief Justice Roberts by quoting the Dobbs Concurrence back at him when dobbs, he said we have to be minimalist here. We cant go as far as done this is the selena gomez and his Majority Opinion. And they quoted his concurrence back to him and their concurrence and they said you said youre supposed to be a minimalist and look what youve done today. That is fascinating. I mean, what do you think . How do you think chief Justice John Roberts reads that . I think he definitely reads it as a jab and its really hard for me not to look at the language that you quoted earlier, kaitlan, which it looks like the court is trying to insulate itself and the petitioner, meaning trump from further controversy. Thats really telling language and that liberal justices can occurrence because what theyre really saying is youre trying to protect trump. And i think its a look ahead to this executive Immunity Case to say, dont try to protect this individual too much. In the Oral Argument, justice sotomayor, and i suspect it was she who wrote the joint concurrence because march as a star and has done some leg work looking at metadata to suggest that she wrote the dissent as a partial dissent before she flipped into cooccurrence. So i think youre reading it exactly right . But i think that what shes saying and the Oral Argument or what you did say in the Oral Argument is isnt this rule kind of gerrymander to protect one person . Again, saying to the argument of trumps lawyers arent you just trying to create a rule that will protect trump and George Washington because theyre the only two individuals is for the relevant. I think shes bringing back that argument and leveling it on a difference frank claim against chief Justice Roberts to say, dont just try to protect this president , like dont create rules that are only going to protect this president Above And Beyond what you strictly have to do to decide a case. Well, and elie elliot, can we talk about the other part of this . It really stood out was Amy Coney Barrett siding with the liberals . It parts in here, but also should this short but really interesting concurrence were in another part, she was urging the public to look past the fact that four of the Courts Members herself included, disagreed with how broadly that this decision was made. It and she wrote, in my judgment, this is not the time to amplify disagreement with Strident See O lord kaitlan, Save Us The Sanctimony has Justice Barrett read any of any frankly, any opinion written by Justice Thomas or Justice Alito over the last frankly, several decades, has she read Justice Alitos opinion in dobbs . The case that overturned roe v. Wade, Justice Alitos opinion in the mifepristone case, were the Abortion Pill case where he all but accused President Biden of seeking to violate the law by not following the Supreme Court. The idea of Supreme Court justices using sharp language to express their views with opinions they disagree with is nothing new the idea that all of a sudden now were going to wag our fingers at three dissenting or concurring justices over and over the tone of their opinion, just silly. And i guess well use the word again. Its just, its a little bit sanctimonious and the more ive thought about it over the course of the daytoday as weve been talking about, just realized, wow, what a Head Scratching Line that wasnt that opinion well, she is the second newest justice on the court. Maybe shes trying to change these opinions down. Elliot williams can do is, you know, great to have you both here. Thank you. And as i noted with hours to go before the biggest primary day this election season, President Biden is now using one of Donald Trumps favorite insults against him in a rare new interview. Well tell you what he said. Also in trumps Rally Playlist is shrinking. 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I didnt want that because the police numbers, because the poll numbers have very good tomorrows primary contest or a chance for trump to get even closer to what has seemed in like its inevitable, which is becoming the republican nominee also closer to setting up that 2020 rematch. So Many Americans are dreading with President Biden joining me now to talk about it to friends of the source for republic look in congressman Adam Kinzinger and former Senior Adviser to president obama, david axelrod. David, i think some people, you know, if you looked at this six months ago, may have found it hard to believe that trump was going to be in this position where hes hes getting these victories at the Supreme Court by delaying one thing theyre also given giving him another victory and hes about but to have what whats expected to be a pretty good Super Tuesday . No, no. Theres no doubt about it and ill tell you some kaitlan. The thing that hes selling in this race. And look, i think we have to stop and acknowledge the sort of moment that were in. Were a guy who engineered an insurrection at the capitol is on the verge of being his party this nominee again. And i dont want to in any way brush that point aside, but he is selling strength and in a weird way, all of these legal travails that he has, all of these indictments, all of these lawsuits, and so on, has given them a chance to look indomitable, looked strong, look resilient, and thats actually in some ways helped them now the main cases havent gone to trial yet. That could be a different story, but hes actually use these to propel himself to this moment yeah. Well, what do you make of this moment just after having been on the january 6 Committee Investigating this, looking at every moment of this and seeing today, the court didnt even touch the idea of whether or not not he incited the insurrection. While after seeing his clip there, i just feel so unified now, a unifying factor in this, like no, i mean, its funny. So right after january 6, fred upton, whos on the show sometimes said to me, i think donald trump runs again, and id like to know youre nuts, like theres no way he runs again. Freds always right. Thats one thing ive learned. Im told me that i mean, its we always call them the upton prophecies because he would always be right. But we i still am in disbelief that were at this moment and i think part of it when youre talking about that strength, donald trump is actually truly the weakest man to ever occupy. By the presidency. Thats not just my opinion. I mean, hes always a victim. I mean, even today, he said, if that statement would have gone on longer, how hes a victim and people are coming after him and poor him. But for some reason hes really good at turning that into, hes the tough guy. So yeah, i mean, its worked. The party looks for strength. Hes projected fake strength. And i am still just blown away as a republican myself that were at this moment. And i guess we just have to deal with it and make sure he doesnt win the oval office. He also claimed in there that the polls were very good for him. I mean, if youre looking at the General Election map jeff polls, theyre not theyre pretty close. I mean, hes edging out a little bit at some of the latest ones from nbc in the New York Times. But this all comes is this piece just came out in the new yorker today by evan osnos, who has reported on biden for forever . Yes. And he was just on with john king one part, obviously, that puts biden weaker those polls is because of his age and evan was talking to john king about what he observed about President Biden. This is what he told him look on a physical level, he is slower and his movements in his gestures. No question about it. His mind seemed unchanged to me. He didnt bungle a date or a name or anything like that. I was looking to see any signs of that thats someone who saw President Biden up close. But this New York Times poll says 73 of all registered voters believe hes too old to be affected. Yeah. Well, look, i accept that he is doing the Job Competently and well, i mean, i believe that but the reality is he is not in front front of a camera projecting that and thats how most americans see their president in front of the camera. He looks, he looks old, he looks slower. He does mangle words at times and it has fit a meme and that meme has been sold as you know, by the Republican Party since he entered the race four years ago but it has taken root and its a real obstacle for him because people they dont see him as someone whos driving things, so they dont give him credit for his real accomplishments, but they give him credit for everything that goes wrong and thats a bad place to be. One of the ways he can show strength is daily right now, be hundred percent for having been on vacation for three weeks while the ukrainian frontline is collapsing. He has been begging for six months, six months for the republicans to pass this aid and again, there are now away on a long weekend, they punted just one week Government Funding he went to the border. He should be attacking them on tanking the border bill and going to war with them. And instead ukraine has collapsing. And frankly, the president will own that if ukraine and i have talked about this, but it was baffling to me after the after after trump tank, this bill with aid to ukraine, aid for israel, and this very, very strict Border Reform Law that they werent on the air the next day, pummeling him, that there wasnt like a fullcourt press on all democratic surrogates, and that the president didnt go down down to the border than what i would concern me about that piece was the president expressed confidence thats fine. But there was this strange lack of urgency about this race, like we got this. Well, look, youre right. Nobody has got this trump, doesnt have it. Biden doesnt have it. Its a close race, but its going to be a very difficult race. And youve got to fight it every single day. Well, im interested because i mean, this piece is also talking about this trump himself and biden says that he doesnt think trump would concede the election if he loses, that he was saying that he totally would tried, to the quote was he says losers, who were losers or never graceful. I just think hell do anything to try to win if and when i when i think youll contest it no matter what the result is. But even though mcdonalds and one of his top Campaign Advisers now wants to focus on democracy. You said people in scranton arent talking about democracy. Look, i think i feel desperately concerned about this issue you were there, you saw what happened on january 6. I think prompt to 0. 0 will be the Delta Variant of democracy. I think hell be that much more difficult to contain all of that said, i think that the people who are sitting around their Kitchen Table talking about this are people who arent concerned about what they paid for the groceries that are on the Kitchen Table, that if youre living with the concerns about inflation and sort of the daytoday concerns of life. If youre if you dont have the privilege not to then youre probably not talking about that. And so i think he should continue to talk about this issue. I think its an important issue, but he has to talk about other things as well. Yeah. You can walk and chew gum on this. You can on the one hand talk about the importance of democracy and on the other hand, talk about the importance of american strength and how republicans are blocking you from projecting the american strength. Thats going to protect taiwan and push back against its china its so interesting, he carries around that little card of trumps most alarming comments to him that he pulls be a big card. Lets see how long it is. We didnt. Evan also said write that david axelrod, Adam Kinzinger, great to have you both here tonight. Also tonight, you heard what we mentioned earlier, the estate of the late irish singer Sinead Oconnor has now just enjoying the list of roughly two Dozen Artists Banning Trump from using their songs at his campaign rallies. That was of course, her iconic version of the prince song, nothing compares two u playing at one of his events in a new statement today, her estate and a record label said, quote, it is no exaggeration to say that shouldnt aid would have been disgusted, hurt, and insulted to have her work. Ms its represented by someone she herself referred to as a Biblical Devil Trump has not responded yet to cnns request for comment. 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Unleash your potential with force factor on iherb tomorrow, its Super Tuesday, 16 races, one consequential day and no one can bring to you like cnn and the best Political Team in the business, Super Tuesday, special coverage begins theres tomorrow at 06 00 p. M. On cnn and streaming on max tonight. A longtime ally of Donald Trumps has found out the price of Blind Loyalty to the former president is jail time. Again here in new york, the former Trump Organization, chief financial officer, allen weisselberg. Yes, him has now reached another plea deal with prosecutors. This is the second time. This time he is admitting that he lied and sworn testimony about the size and value of trumps triplex apartment his 2022 plea that sent him to jail was for tax fraud both, please, though, are nearly identical, both landing him in jail for five months. I should pause here to remind you when youre wondering how could this happen twice, he signed a 2 million Severance Agreement with the Trump Organization to not testify unless he was legally required to do so. But now this new plea makes him a Repeat Offender on the list of people in trumps orbit to face jail time. Here to talk about that is former white House Counsel for president richard nixon, john dean, and john, i just think when you look at this i mean, i think people who have known the Trump Organization for awhile surprises the second time this is happening, but i wonder if you think this guilty plea could actually strengthen alvin bragg, the District Attorney here in new york, in his hand, when that case against trump in new york starts later this month indirectly, it certainly strengthens his hand because it tells others in the Trump Organization they risk not to lie because therell be prosecuted if they do and theres it wasnt clear that weisselberg was going to be a witness. There was rumor that he might testify, but hes clearly been disqualified as a witness now, with a perjury wrap so they dont dare bring him and put him on the stand. So yes. And that sense, i think bragg has strengthened his position well, wonder what you make of the response from trumps legal team. Theyre saying that that alvin bragg and others are accusing them of engaging in Prosecutorial Misconduct for pursuing these Perjury Charges against him and not pursuing them against Michael Cohen is longtime ally, turned witness against trump well, first of all, Michael Cohen was a witness for the Southern District of new york. Thats where he worked at his plea arrangement. And the reason they didnt do a plea deal per say, is that michael was unwilling to tell his entire life story. And his fatherinlaw, his life story and everything. But he did reach an accommodation on what they had and i think hes been so truthful so long that it qualifies him as a good witness. He is testified in grand juries. Hes testified before the congress, so hes a known quantity. But this case that theyre bringing is not a a witness heavy case. Its a document case hes all so michael and all the witnesses will be heavily corroborated, and thats the strength the jury looks for, and theyre just looking at documents and getting somebody to fill in what they mean. So i dont think that this is any negative for the prosecutor and a Standard Operating Procedures theres not surprising they accused it of being accused of prosecutorial excesses. Thats standard for defendants in most instances. You know, this is not this is Standard Operating Procedure the other thing here is allen weisselberg. I think is actually a bit younger than trump by a few years. But whatever he went to jail, trump was very shaken by it. We heard from sources because he just kept saying, i cant believe they sent that old man to jail. That was the quote that he would relate to people privately. But when you look at The Big Picture of the fact that this is the second time its happening to him. It reminded me of something that trumps attorney general, bill barr said to me last summer about the dangers of people who are loyal to trump their. Lives turned upside down by trump to pursue this caper of his. And he leaves in his wake ruined lives like this. The people who went up to capitol hill, these individuals, many of the people who served them in government that got sucked into things and he just leaves all this carnage in his wake. You think he cares about that . No, he doesnt care about that. Loyalty is a oneway street for him is that how you see this here . John, learning about this this second plea deal for weisselberg. Well, just just watching trump over the years, we know thats the case that loyalty as a oneway street, hes almost never does anything for anybody else other than himself or its transactional. These doing something for that reason. He is he is not a natural leader. He is a natural strong man with his natural bully who wants it his way. So ive weisselberg has made a deal with the devil and hes paying a very steep price john dean, thank you for joining tonight thank you as we mentioned, this story tonight, the breaking is quite remarkable. Its about a retired Army Lieutenant colonel who is now facing 30 years in prison after he was apparently catfished and to giving up classified military secrets. 63 yearold david slater has just been indicted. He works for the air force. He had a topsecret security clearance. And now the Justice Department says that for months he has been exchanging messages on a foreign Dating Website. Was someone who claimed to be a woman living in ukraine. The messages that were exchanged from this person who is identified as his coconspirator are messages like this one, dear, what is shown on the screens in the special room. It is very interesting. My sweet dave, thanks for the valuable information. And you are my secret informant. Love. 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Today one day after she called for an immediate ceasefire in gaza people in gaza are starving the conditions are inhumane. There must be an immediate ceasefire for at least next time. You heard that crowd cheering. It was notable. We had not heard that languid jet from the administration. But tonight sources are telling cnn that benny gantz is highlevel meetings in the United States or aggravating Prime Minister netanyahu back in israel i want to bring in evelyn farkas, who has spent decades working on foreign policy, including as Deputy Assistant secretary for defense for russia, ukraine, and eurasia at its great to have you here between hearing that comment yesterday from the Vice President , which was explicit, without a doubt, the strongest one that we have seen from this administration between that in these meetings with benny gantz, that hes not just having with harris, but also with the secretary of state, but National Security adviser, whats do you believe the white house is sending . Yeah, kaitlan, i think the white house is finally coming out, although still not using the president , but using the Vice President to very publicly signal to the israelis that they need to get behind a ceasefire. And if its not going to be permanent, then at least make it six what did she say . Six weeks. So this is different because the administration has been trying this policy of basically Hugging Israel In Public and speaking firmly in private. And this worked for them in 2021, but it hasnt been working now. And i say 2021 because there was another 11 day conflict flipped in gaza. Then under this administration thats how they handled it. Then they thought probably that they could handle it this way now, and it hasnt worked obviously to the great tragic end result that we see in gaza. Now thats a really interesting point of a tried and true tactic they believed then how its, how its working this time because the other thing she mentioned yesterday was more aid more aid needs to get into gaza now. And over the weekend, we saw the us after that chaotic and deadly moment last week where gazans were killed, either because the idea of open fire or they were run over by aid trucks as they were leaving and fleeing the scene. There were airdrops happening over the weekend into gaza. And i wonder what you make of the fact that its gotten to this point because obviously airdropping aid is not the most logistically sound or safest way to get that aid to people who so desperately need it. Right . And kaitlan, youre not usually airdropping assistance in if your Ally Controls access to that territory. I mean, israel has three potential areas of entry into gaza where you could bring trucks in and theyve been in charge of the process, of course, with the egyptians on the southern side. But they should be able to get more assistance. And thats been made abundantly clear by a lot of critics from the outside. So the airdrops are really a very sad kind of recognition that we dont have enough leverage with the israelis and others the other Development Today is the United Nations reports a team from them reported that they have clear and convincing information that hostages or raped some of them gangraped on october 7. And they said that they found that they do believe Sexual Violence is likely ongoing and has found clear and convincing evidence that the hostages were being held still in gaza are being assaulted. I wonder what you make of the impact of this report well, one, it doesnt surprise me, kaitlan because we have been Hearing Reports of this dance senior has a podcast where he interviewed one of the women who found the bodies of the women. So there are teams of Israel Israeli Women who go in and take the israeli women soldiers in hostages. And they found evidence of rape. And already had discussed that. But now that the United Nations has gone in and said, okay, we did a study and we the independent neutral arbiter, if you will of experts in this has said that this was the case. The world cant turn away and more needs to be done. And clearly these poor women who are still being held, their circumstances may be quite dire to include potential pregnancy or Something Like that. So i think that does complicate matters on all levels and maybe best not to speak too much about it until their homes safely. Evelyn farkas, as always, glad to have your expertise on the show. Thank you. Coming up back here in the United States, a notable announcement in philadelphia, bob costas will be here as a kelce brother, announces that he is retiring from the Nfl Motional Press Conference today. Whats next for jason kelce the lame the ct. Given isnt going to protect it i places out there ive got to do this it might us will follow you know what his bad at this as you think man and the lost kingdom. 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Its all we do with local offices throughout the country and does help you get the compensation you deserve. 800 to eight to 44, 44 today, Brotherly Love was on full display as jason kelce, the long time center for the Philadelphia Eagles announced that he is hanging up his cleats after 13 seasons and won super bowl ring. And an Emotional Press Conference that went on for about 45 minutes before he got to what he was there to announce. He tearfully paid tribute to the fans, to the former coaches. And of course to his younger brother travis, the boyfriend of a singer that you may or may not have heard of, taylor swift . There is no chance id be here without the bond. Travis and i share it made me stronger tougher, smarter and taught me the values of cooperation, loyalty patience, and understanding its, only two poetic. I found my career being fulfilled In The City Of Brotherly Love here tonight Legendary Sportscaster bob costas and bob, i mean that last moment there where he was talking about how obviously hes spent his 13 year career entirely with philadelphia and was talking about his passion and being there, matching the citys passion for that team, it was philadelphia sports fans are passionate. Sometimes theyre very, very tough. Theyve broken players that every support baseball, football, basketball, hockey, but if you can endure it and if you excel, they embrace you not just while youre playing, hes a Philadelphia Sports Hero for the rest of his life. Obviously, he and his brother travis, both being football players, they have a tremendous bond and they have helped to lift each other but travis plays the more glamorous position, tight end even though the eagles have twice bend to the super bowl, once against traviss chiefs and once against tom bradys patriots on the that one in 2018, even though jason has been there twice, travis has been there four times, winning three times, and the chiefs have taken over as Americas Team at least for the time being. And as you mentioned, trump travis is now connected to taylor swift. All of that has lifted jason kelce is fame, and im sure he be the first to acknowledge it when travis kelce, guest host saturday night live, jason kelce shows up in one of the sketches and the audience immediately recognizes him. And the two of them do podcasts together. So while travis is certainly going to have a higher q quotient recognized by more americans. Jason, that high tide lifts those boats. Im sure that therell be doing appearances and endorsements together for the foreseeable future. Sure. Yeah. What does a post nfl life look like for him . Do you think because i mean, yeah, you did see his brother sitting there in the front row. They embraced as soon as he was hes done. You mentioned their podcasts, which is one of the top podcasts. You know, theyre in commercials together. Theyre doing, theyre having bobbleheads that the cavaliers game tomorrow night. They grew up in the cleveland area yeah. I just wonder with Something Like that, that is relatively new actually to america to see their brotherhood and their friendship. What is next for someone like, yeah well, hes a very wellspoken and likable guy, and now he has a relatively high profile. So broadcasting is always a possible path. Hes, got a young family, hes got three children unlike travis who was a carefree bachelor connected to perhaps the worlds most famous single woman. So theres a difference between the two of them. Theyre also a difference in the position they played. Center is a brutal position. The game itself is brutal. But if you want to talk about bloods sweat, and tears, thats what jason went through and that was part of the emotion he showed today. He was only a sixth round draft choice. He was always kind of underrated. He always had to prove people wrong. Its not a glamour position. And here he is likely five years from now to wind up in the hall of fame in Canton Every Center who has been allpro or gone to the pro bowl as often as he has in past nfl history, has wound up in the hall of fame. It is a special moment to see you, two siblings in any sport, not just football. Weve seen it in other sports at the top of their games. These two brothers obviously playing different positions. But, but to compare them to the manning brothers or venus and Serena Williams where weve seen this phenomenon play out of these siblings that everyone loves to watch, that its added to that by the fact that theres two of them from the same family competing at the highest levels of the same sport . Yeah. And once they happen to meet in the super bowl just a year or so ago, they met on the super bowl. Remember mama kelce saying, thank goodness they both play offense, so they never on the field against each other. Theyre never going to collide with each other. Head to head. And it was a very close game, as you may remember, and kansas city want it over philadelphia. And then you see that, seeing that the two of them embracing in a different way, jim harbaugh going back to the nfl now with the charges in michigan, come on with michigan. Yeah. Well, i know it hurts to bring up to a crimson tide router like you, but a decade or so ago, he was the coach of the 49ers and his brother John Harbaugh is still the coach of the ravens. They coached against each other in the super bowl. The game went down to the very last play, heartbreaking defeat for jim. And then you see the two of them embrace and they say to each other i love you. I mean, thats a bond thats greater than teammates, greater than the game yeah, it is. Its great to watch and it was a nice moment today to see his brother sitting there in the front row, bob costas, great to have you back on. Thank you for joining thanks a lot

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