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Off the cuff, President Biden sticking to a script. But in terms of the level of factual accuracy, i mean, it was scripted in an accurate way this week to hear from the president. The former president said what he wanted to, and much of it was not true. So i dont have any factchecks of President Biden here. But i think thats for an obvious reason remarkable. Daniel dale, glad to have you on standby. Thank you for that. And as we start the top of the new hour here on the lead, you just saw President Biden and donald trump wrapping up those competing very different appearances on the southern border, how their messaging on immigration is playing 1,700 miles away in washington. And speaking of congress, is the job of another House Speaker potentially on the line . Today . Mike johnson helped get a new shortterm Spending Bill passed. But thats really his problem. His conservative rightwing flank wants a longterm solution. Last, i checked the republicans actually have a majority in the house of representatives, but you wouldnt know it if you looked at our checkbook because we are all too willing to continue the Policy Choices of joe biden and the spending levels of nancy pelosi also leading this hour, Donald Trumps Immunity Argument is the center of yet another case, but this time, most highprofile one, first in the federal Election Subversion case, or his actions around trump trying to overturn the election are under scrutiny. Now we may see the same argument used in the classified documents case down in florida. But in this case, trump was mad at the white house, no longer president of the United States, when he had that classified material that he refused to return to the federal government. Cnns paula reid is tracking that story for us in stuart, florida. Paula, obviously tomorrow is going to be a big day in federal court. I think its important because we talked so much about all the different trump cases that obviously were covering very closely. We havent talked about the classified documents case in a moment. What does this hearing on tomorrow and what does it . Have to do around a potential trial date for the classified documents case okay. Then when it comes to the trump trials, as you know, at timing is everything as his lawyers continue to try to push these cases back until after the november president ial contest because if hes reelected, he could probably pretty easily make these all go away. Now is currently scheduled to be tried on charges related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents in late may may 20, but it was widely expected that the judge, aileen cannon, a trump appointee, that she likely push that back tomorrow. Shes asked the parties to come to court, ready to discuss scheduling. Trump lawyers have been pushing and for additional time for discovery and some other matters. So what are you watching very closely tomorrow at court all day to see does xi push this back . If she does, how far does she also leave the door open as shes done in the past two, maybe pushing it back again because at this point, kaitlan, its unclear if trump will face either one of his federal criminal trials because of of course, yesterday, the Supreme Court agreed to to keep his january 6 Election Subversion case on hold while they contemplate, hear oral arguments in two months on the issue of immunity. Now, an additional in addition to scheduling tomorrow, theyre also going to handle some other matters. Like, for example, what they can put on a Jury Questionnaire the Justice Department wants to be able to ask prospective jurors if they believe the 2020 election was stolen. Whereas trump lawyers, they want to be able to ask if people vote it and what their Party Affiliation is. So a lot to sort out there potentially. And then the Justice Department also bringing up another really serious issue which is intimidation and harassment of witnesses some people involved in this case, of course, thats something weve seen across so many of the trump cases, threats against witnesses, judges, prosecutors will see how the judge addresses that tomorrow with a big issue, but then we will bring to watch all day and be reporting live is on timing because again, timing is right now the Biggest Issue when it comes to trumps criminal cases and paula, this is so remarkable because what we heard from our sources yesterday after we found out that yes, the Supreme Court is going to take up that Immunity Argument by trump, that theyve got two months from one eat scheduled this summer. That then if in june we get the Supreme Court ruling and then it restarts that case in washington, the one on the attempts to overturn the election, it may be conflicting and running into the classified documents case yeah. Okay. Then i hope your producers have our calendar graphic handy because you need it in order to look at the full situation here and just a few weeks, of course, trump will face his first criminal trial in manhattan. That is the Hush Money Case brought by the manhattan district attorney. And that case is expected to go until mid hey, and then its anyones guess how this plays out over the next few months. And there are questions about how much time judge Tanya Chutkin we believe that should give him a few months before shed have to schedule that january 6 case. Wheres the maralago documents case . The lot of open questions about exactly whats going to happen in the calendar in the next seven months. But again, theres less in less space, the longer it takes to resolve these larger issues like immunity at least its warmer in florida than it is in washington. Paula reid. Thank you for that will be should have watched this closely tomorrow for more on what we may see. I want to bring in cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, and cnn political commentator alyssa farah griffin, who is also the Communications Director inside the trump white house. Elie, as far as it comes to the classified documents case, i think its good to have a refresher because we havent been talking about it as frequently. But what are you going to be watching for because this judge, specifically we know is operating very differently than judge in washington has been. Yes. So im looking for the moving chess pieces its here because i think a strategy and weve had reporting to this effect that Donald Trumps team is going to use. Here is to try to move the maralago trial so that it blocks any possibility of the washington, dc trial making it onto the calendar before the election. Heres what i mean. The current date for the maralago trial is like may may 20, if they can get that pushback to, lets say july. Now youre looking at the florida the maralago case blocking july, august, september that just leaves nowhere for jack smiths other case, the dc case to go. So im going to be looking to see how the parties are trying to manipulate push poll that trial date. But did they not fear the classified documents case . I mean, if theyre happy to have that one go for us, does that mean they feel like that . One is more winnable for them . If thats the strategy, then yes, thats what it tells you and im trying to think about this. If i was Donald Trumps Defense Lawyer hypothetically, the way i would look at it is the stronger evidence, yet were being hypothetical here. The stronger evidence against my hypothetical client is in the florida case, the documents case. Its easier for a jury to understand he had classified documents he showed ive had them. He didnt come back. He obstructed justice. Its a neater fit with the law. The dc case, the january 6 case, is more complicated and a little bit of a messier fit but your jury pool, if youre Donald Trumps team is so much better in florida. I mean, donald trump won florida, even if youre drawing a jury only from the southern counties, he got 40, 45 . Youre going to have a way better jury pool. And let me tell you something. If i had a choice between good fats are good jury. I practice in front of enough jurys. Give me the jury every time i want to get back to the Immunity Thing in a moment, but on this jury thing, we heard today that jack smith wants to have a questionnaire for those potential jurors and florida, whether or not they believe the election was stolen, that he wants to be able to because obviously as theyre navigating i mean, he clearly thinks that it could be a jury thats influenced to donald trump. Well, and we know if we look at just at the National Stats a significant portion of the gop as much as 67 believe that the election was stolen so broaden that out more widely, it makes sense. I mean, you want a jury pool thats operating on a baseline level of facts. And of course, i think you would be prejudiced if youre on a jury pool in your ruling on this, if you think that in fact the election was stolen, it makes sense. Donald trump is most fearful for january 6 because he thinks it can move the quickest he thinks there is that small possibility. There could be a conviction before election day, and that is the one that i think resonates with voters the most that it could actually sway republicans from voting, from la weve been reeling from what we learned yesterday from the Supreme Court, something that peter baker, who is the chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times posted today, stood out to me. He said the days between the District Court ruling for nixon and the supreme nixon against nixon. And when the Supreme Court arguments actually happened 49 days, the days between the District Court ruling against trump in the Supreme Court arguments, hearing appeal, 143 days. A lot of people are looking at the timing here. Yeah. So i think theres a couple i think its a very good point by peter baker. I think the response would be we are still on a relatively fast track here when it comes to the immunity case, joan biskupic, our expert, wrote that this morning for cnn, and normally, a Supreme Court case would take even more time. There are differences between the Watergate Scenario in this scenario, the Watergate Scenario, the time pressure there was Richard Nixon had already won his second term. He wasnt up for an election. There was no looming election. The concern was we have a criminal investigation of the guy in the white house here are the concern is really more political. The concern is while we have a looming election and how might this trial impact the election . And i think theres an argument that it is appropriate for prosecutors and courts to consider the former situation. But once you get into the game of judges and prosecutors thinking about, well, theres an election day and how should we play this . Youre starting to turn those jobs that we dont want to be political well into things that are political trump has a very varied take of the Supreme Court or less, obviously, he put three justices on there, but hes gone from saying, i remember when he wants tweeted, when they were going against him. I dont think they liked me very much, but i mean, clearly right now, even if maybe its unwittingly or not on purpose, they are helping in his strategy to delay his trials, at least for the moment. Yes, he does have a split opinion. We remember alina habba, one of his attorneys basically saying we hope kavanaugh does the right thing on the 14th amendment. I dont think that cabinet is going to side that way in the 14th amendment. I think hes got this small shred of hope that perhaps some who put him there might side with them, but what ive heard from the trump folks is they very much no, theyre going to lose on immunity, but theyre still counting this as a victory because it gives them more time and it just gives them a bit more time that they could potentially be pushed past the election. And one of the latest stats is 52 of republicans would consider not supporting him if there is a conviction by election day. So this is i mean, to donald trump, this is the whole game. Came as far as winning the presidency. Weve got to start with those polls. We have to start asking which conviction because i think wed see different results for the Hush Money Case versus the january 6 because its very important, which is the only case Going Forward starting next month, there are very few living Breathing Republicans who care about the Hush Money Case. That is something thats seen as its in the rearview window. It dates back to 2016 dont even know necessarily the Campaign Finance implications of it. January 6 does resonate with voters, will have to see, and obviously we dont even know when this trial could happen. Maybe it could happen before the election Alyssa Elie Great to have you both. And in washington, it appears that congress may have just averted a Government Shutdown, at least its not going to shut down tomorrow. But the process to do so could put this mans job in jeopardy. House Speaker Mike Johnson will check in on capitol hill right after this greatest stage they told about the tv hey, youve seen this was the one youre telling me you can get directtv got good stuff and you dont need a Satellite Dish i used to love doing my business on those things. Wonsik pigeon, then dishes kept the rain off our beaks. We just have different priorities satellite free directv i thought id see the day. Well, our lifespans are quite short. 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Were waiting to see what happens there, but lets talk about the dynamics among House Republicans because weve seen speaker johnson say before, theyre never passing a shortterm Spending Bill again . And here they are passing a shortterm Spending Bill. Whats his justification . Yeah. Actually, in fact, twice now, since he made that declaration last winter in december, theyve had to pass a short term Spending Bill and look, he has said behind the scenes, he told his members that he essentially left in this position because they cant pass bills along party lines anymore because the party has been so badly divided over even passing whats known in capitol hill is a rule of parliamentary vote that they need to do to actually move forward on the legislative process. Us is on the floor. They cant do that anymore because they are so divided. So as a result, hes got to work with democrats are trying to pass a bill by a twothirds majority. And because hes got to work with democrats, hes got a compromise and not go nearly as far as publicans want. But i talked to a lot of republicans, particularly on the far right. Some of those who pushed out Kevin Mccarthy after he had to cut a shortterm Spending Deal to keep the government open. And they made clear theyre not happy well its. Just more of the same people kind of grow accustomed to washington Doing My Washington does in his game, you got to stack op. You got to stack up and strategies in addis something thats what we accomplished here. Well, this Spending Deal thats coming together, the speaker cutting pretty much a similar deal with a shortterm deal that Kevin Mccarthy would have cut here well, he inherited a lot of kevin Kevin Mccarthys bad deals. Number one. So i dont fault him for that, but number two, im going to say the same thing. Ive always said republicans and democrats crowds alike are spending too much period policywise. What did you get out of throwing out mccarthy we have continued with the crs the same the same policies that that i voted against on september 30, the last act of the previous speaker. Thats true. And those last two comments came from two of the eight republicans who voted out, Kevin Mccarthy, bob good, and nancy mays making very clear that that not whole lot has changed policywise now, neither of them are willing to say that they would actually move to oust mike johnson at this moment, as johnson has said, its time to close the chapter on last years Spending Bills focused on next years Spending Bills, because this shortterm bill that is about to pass the senate tonight would give them just a handful of more days to actually pass last Year Spending goes to keep the government open up until october at the moment, those members are saying that theyre not going to push them out. The question though, kaitlan is, will that calculus changed if he does Something Else to anger them, such as moving on ukraine aid, some of the speaker has not committed to do, but is facing pressure to act on immediately. On a raju. Thank you for that. And also on capitol hill, senator Martin Heinrich of new mexico, a member of the Senate Appropriations committee, senator great to have you. Here is the senate going to pass this shortterm Spending Bill this evening . We, should pass that later this evening and then worked simultaneously working to tidy up all of those individual Appropriations Bills that manu talked about the other thing that we heard when it comes to action in the senate is from President Biden, just a few moments ago, he was in brownsville, texas talking about the southern border, the crisis happening there. He called on the senate actually to reconsider that bipartisan bill that had been negotiated, which was not just about foreign aid, but also on the southern border as well. Is that something that you good support . I would wholeheartedly support that, you know, ive been sort of left at the altar three different times now on Border Security and immigration work in the senate in 2013, we actually passed a big bill that had 68 votes only to see republicans in the house refused to put it on the floor, even though it had the votes to pass. Were now facing a similar dynamic where donald trump would rather have an issue than solve a problem. And thats what scared many of my republican colleagues away from the negotiating table. But we have a very good product that would really address the fundamental problems we have in the asylum law that are leading to the challenges that were facing across the border . No, it would tighten a lot of those asylum laws and President Biden saying there would even give him the authority to shut down the border if the crossings hit a certain point. The other thing that bill hadnt it was aid for Ukraine Crane and i was just in kyiv speaking with president zelenskyy about how dire they need that aid. He said that, yes, they will suffer setbacks on the battlefield, that it will increase, increase russias chances of winning this war if they dont get more aid. And last night we were talking to your colleague on the republican side of the aisle, senator mitt romney, about what happens if if ukraine doesnt get that aid. I want you to listen to what he told me i was just in ukraine sitting down with president zelenskyy. They are deeply worried that your colleagues in the house, republicans in the house arent going to send them any more aid that they are going to stand in the way i mean, what responsibility do you believe republicans will bear for setbacks on the battlefield for ukraine if they dont pass any more aid, well, if we dont pass aid for ukraine then i think ukraine has a very difficult time for serving their geographic integrity and a life youre going to have a lot of people who lose their life as russia runs across ukraine. And that will make it very clear to people Around The World that you really cant trust america because were do you agree with that, that that itll tell people and other countries that they cant trust the United States i wholeheartedly agree with everything mitt romney said there. This will embolden putin. It will embolden other adversaries Around The World. And we have a very simple choice we can support our allies in ukraine, or you will see russia continue to move and after ukraine were talking about countries that are in nato, countries like poland, we have a Treaty Responsibility to not just support those countries with arms and financial support, but with our actual seoul soldiers. So i cant stress just how incredibly important it is for the house to take up this ukrainian aid Package Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell announced yesterday that hes stepping down from republican leadership. Obviously, i know that you already democrat, but, but he is someone who has pushed for aid to ukraine. Hes been a voice against what, what part of his party certainly the maga side of his party hit his wanted on ukraine aid, which is no more funding and no more aid to them. The fact that hes stepping down and were seeing comments like from the House Freedom caucus, obviously over the house its calling him the co majority leader, mitch mcconnell, implying that hes more in line with democrats and republicans and said no need to wait till november to replace him, that they should immediately elect a republican Minority Leader. Obviously, Mitch Mcconnells a lifelong republican and has helped stack the Supreme Court with three trump justices, but will get to that later. But i wonder what you think the next republican leader in the senate will look like. And if you have any concerns about that, i think its a very open question and depending on who comes the next majority, Minority Leader for the republicans . Will determine the tenor of the senate. And weve already seen these extreme maga elements in the house and how they have made it impossible for a republican speaker to pass even the most basic procedural moves forward like a rule, which is necessary to pass a law you could see that sort of things seep into the senate and that would be i just think it would bode very poorly for governance and for being able to do the basic minimums of governance. So you think it will, it could fundamentally change how the institution itself works. Its certainly could, and i think though will be a debate within the Republican Caucus about whether they want a leader who can navigate, who can compromise, or whether they want a leader who just wants to make a point continuously senator, thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for adding me. And we give the senate and just a few hours, im going to speak with senator bernie sanders, the independent senator from vermont. 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To reduce sugar vegas. Story of sin city. Sunday at ten on cnn and our world lead today, a humanitarian aid site where people were waiting in line for food has now become a grave site in gaza. The Palestinian Health ministry in gaza says that more than 110 people have been killed at least 760 injured after Israeli Forces opened fire sure causing aid trucks to run people over. The idf, giving starkly different account saying that their troops opened fire, but most were killed or injured from a stampede. Several hundred yards away. That contradicts what one eyewitness told cnn about how all this chaos unfolded i should note, cnn cannot independently confirm this figures for more of what we do know, cnns Jeremy Diamond has this report on the deadly incident that has many questioning what this impact, what impact this could have on a potential ceasefire around four in the morning, thousands of palestinians are already camped out by the coastal road in western gaza. City. Humanitarian aid trucks are reportedly on route. A rarity in Northern Gaza are hundreds of thousands are now on the brink of famine as the convoy passes in Israeli Military checkpoint and enters gaza city Hundreds Desperate for food swarmed the trucks as seen in this drone video released by the Israeli Military. Many climb onto the trucks, grabbing what they can when suddenly the Israeli Military opens fire, killing and wounding about 20 people in the crowd, according to local journalist khader al zaanoun, who was on the scene Pandemonium Ensues as people run away, Eye Witnesses say the Truck Drivers speed off killing dozens more people. The Palestinian Ministry of health says at least 104 people were killed altogether, and more than 700 injured. Cnn is unable to independently confirm those numbers the Israeli Military acknowledges its troops shot people near the convoy, but says the gunfire was unrelated and came after people were already killed in a stampede. In a second event in a short distance away, we also had a group of people that approached the military forces in a war zone the force opened fire in the air to distance them, wanting fire in order to get people out of harms way unfortunately, they proceeded to advance. And indeed their perceived threat and the forces opened fire. Of course, i will say were continuing to investigate, continuing to inquire and after actions, activities, that account contradicted by eyewitnesses who say israeli gunfire triggered the mass panic. Our children die of hunger. They went to get a bag of flour in order to be by children somewhere weve run over, others were shot. So they send us that these ratings can keep shooting at our children. This is wrong. This is not right. This is not right the latest victims killed on a day when the death toll in gaza surpassed 30,000. According to the Palestinian Ministry of health a majority of whom are women and children more may soon die of starvation as the World Food Program warns that more than half 1 million gazans are on the brink of famine. We are talking about a manmade famine because we have a kind of totally blockers for the people werent living in the north. There is not even enough of animal food and it folder for people to eat or to do bread with animal fodder. That desperation brought tamar out to ocean buried to that coastal road early thursday morning. But i have you been able to ask is he when to get a bit of bread, a bag of flour for his family, displaced that the schools in jabalya camp. Now he lies dead, killed while trying to survive and kaitlan the critical backdrop to all of this . Are those ongoing negotiations to try and obtain a temporary ceasefire in gaza. This incident, of course, highlights the need for that ceasefire to get more aid into gaza, but it could also impact those negotiations today, President Biden saying that he is certain that it will impact act those talks. And a senior hamas member this evening offering a warning saying that they will not allow these negotiations to become a cover for what they call the continued crimes against our people, kaitlan Jeremy Diamond in tel aviv. Thank you for that report. And just into the lead, the air national guardsman, who is accused of posting classified documents online. Now expected to plead guilty according to what a source tells cnn, youll remember 20 yearold jack teixeira. He was charged with six counts of willful retention and transmission of Classified Information russian prosecutors say that he posted classified documents on social media, including eavesdropping on key allies and adversaries. 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And when it comes up in just about every discussion about not just joe biden and also donald trump, age off i add college is in eastern a deep blue piece of a purple county. Its a passive margin. Why Larry Malinconico is 71, teaches geology an independent, but he almost always votes for the democrat. A biden fan. I dont think hes gotten appropriate credit for the things he has done what conversations with friends . And students have malinconico wishing the president settled for just one term. I think there are people who will not vote for him or sit it out because they perceive his age as a potential problem and forgiving when the president says he recently spoke to a foreign leader who died years ago, he hasnt the history of gaffes, but i also think that as we age we do tend to mix things up a little bit mickey brown is west point class of 1966. We tried to stay as active as possible. He plays tennis, pickleball, and senior softball to stay sharp, my wife his wife though, has dementia we can lives in a care home thereby, i believe in jesus and god. I think it keeps me strong and ill be fine. Brown is a conservative and twotime trump voter. Insist though this view of President Biden is born of experience, not politics, carrying for my wife, i see certain things the way his mannerisms that make me wonder if he is really in fact the President Trump, several years younger than biden, but people have raised the same question. You raised some concerns that youve seen biden that you say, well, ive lived that do you see any of that a trump . Well, i was just at on january 31, at times, i forget something that comes back. But im fit. I have confidence in myself i just think the difference between the two are enough me to be more concerned about mr. Biden Going Forward than mr. Trump shoulders opening, chest opening. Pat levin is 94 . Yes, 94. And that pilates. Its important for to keep me vertical judge, i need all the help i can get. H she says is not the dominant issue among most of her friends. Theyre terrified about what might happen if joe biden doesnt want terrified. Why what will happen to this democracy we hear political pundits talking all the time, but bidens age, trumps age. Its fascinating to hear from voters themselves who are of similar ages, if not older listen, they know what its like to mix up names, to forget things, to have memories. They know what its like to not be able to move as quickly as before. So its interesting to get their perspective on watching the president , but to be clear, it also breaks down along partisan lines, just like any voters, if people are republicans, they said to tend to say biden is too old and trumps fine. The democrats like to say, bidens okay. And i dont like donald trump the interesting part, which several of the democrats even biden fans do say in conversations with some of their friends who are in their 60s, in their 70s, in their 80s, some of their friends are worried about it. They do say that, so thats worth watching. And this is just its a critical place in the Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania and its a critical constituency. Hillary clinton lost voters over 65 by ten points to donald trump in 2016, she lost northampton county, she lost pennsylvania, and she lost the presidency joe biden also lost Senior Citizens those over 65, but only by seven points in pennsylvania, close races and one on the margins. Right. So you dont have to win a voting bloc. But sometimes if you can lose it by a smaller margin, as joe biden didnt 2021 North Hampton county won pennsylvania, and he is the precedent. So theyre worth watching through november. Absolutely. 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Mesothelioma is really all we do 80087 to 4901 and our other politics lead President Biden and former President Trump and their dueling trips to the border underway at the moment, as President Biden is now trying to take advantage of what happened on the hill where House Republicans sunk that bipartisan agreement in the senate that would in part address whats happening on the border meanwhile, former President Trump there stoking fears about migrants while blaming the present for whats happening in illegal Border Crossings joining me now is republican strategists lee carter and former democratic congressman max rose. So lets talk about what we saw on the border today, because obviously its this kind of split screen political moment. I think what it clearly is is a recognition from both of them that this is going to be a huge issue. But when you hear trumps remarks today, going after this, but hes also going same thing instead, he has about the border of war that arent true. Talking about other governments that are always unnamed, dumping their jails and menstrual institutions, sending those people across the border the border is a legitimate issues. Why does he have to also make up lies that go in his speech to inflame this issue. I mean maybe he doesnt think hes lying. Maybe he think hes just talking big. I dont know. Hes he has this way of rhetoric. I dont want to justify it. Im not saying that hes not he talks big. He talks a big game and hes talking to what people are really afraid of right now. He pumps them up and it just makes them more and more afraid and more and more excited about his candidacy. And it just wouldnt even though some of what he says is not true, i mean, you could just talk about the numbers themselves and say, you know, this is an issue, this is at issue, and those would all be true and legitimate things. But instead, he also adds it, you know, that theyre speaking languages that weve never heard of, which im not even sure what that showing im not sure what to do, but at the end of the day, i think most people just hear bits of it. They look at him and they say 92 of republicans look at him and think hes going to do a better job on the border than joe biden is. They think hes the one that came up with a solution that joe biden has thrown away and they believe what hes putting out there and independence a lot of them are buying when hes sailing to a lot of people in the independent side, 74 disapprove of joe bidens handling of the border, and they also think that donald trump would handle it better. But when you do see these kinds of speeches today, let you saw today, you cant help but wonder, is it going to work . Is going to last because weve been hearing about donald trump for the last twoandahalf years, not directly from him. Now, were hearing directly from him and its a reminder of a little bit its a lot to handle. Well, on that issue. I mean, this is something in the gallup poll that was just done when they asked americans, what is your number one issue right now, 28 , which was the most in the poll, said that immigration is their number one concern. Obviously the economy is also on there inflation. You can see how it ranks, but immigration is number one. I mean the white house clearly recognizes that President Biden is at the border for the first time in 13 months. What do you make of what you heard from President Biden today . Well look. Of course, everyones recognizing it. And i think that thats why the president and is there. And i think thats of course why donald trump is there and talking about it, show frequently but its fascinating to see the juxtaposition of both of their speeches literally at the same time donald trump is talking in that same language, the language that you referenced, its laced with xenophobia and is completely absent of any solutions, certainly any that would be moral and retain the solid parody of this nation that is part of the reason why were the best country in the world meanwhile, what biden is doing is going back to his core competency, his core strength, which is as a leader of Bipartisan Solutions that i would never say particularly in the presence of a great pollster that polls dont matter. But what i would say is that poles in february and march are certainly not going to be representative of where that data will be during an election time, right in the weeks and days up to an election. And this will have a Significant Impact on where people shift in their sentiment. You mentioned independently, and i think theres a moment where you hear from some republicans, even who, who liked Donald Trumps policies. I mean, he is pledging to carry out the biggest deportation in us history. He claims, even though he deported fewer people than president obama did when he was actually in the white house. But he has all of these pretty extreme Immigration Policies that he is pledging to put in place that some republicans would probably like to see but when you talk to some of the including mitt romney, obviously, no fan of Donald Trumps. We spoke last night. He said that he agrees with trump on some of his policies, but he wont be voting for him in november. And this is why would you vote for donald trump over joe biden . No. No, no, absolutely not. For me. There there are two factors are decided who i want have as the leader of my country and the person who is the example of the president for my kids, my grandkids one is there a position at policies and on Foreign Policy that aligned with donald trump, at least as i understand his policy and domestic policy yeah. Line with many of his domestic policies but theres another dimension besides policy. And thats character and i think what america is as a nation, what is allowed us to be the most powerful nation on earth and the leader of the earth is the character of the people who have been our leaders, past president s, but also mothers, fathers, church leaders, University President s, and so forth. Having a president who is so defaulted of character would have an enormous impact on the character of america. And for me thats the primary consideration. So defaulted of character that it would have an enormous impact on the character of america. And theres about 30 of republicans who agree with them on that. And you see that most of them are voting for nikki haley right now. Some might say that its about 40 of republicans that agree with him theres a lot of people say, i mean desantis tried to tap in this whole idea thatll be trump without the chaos. A lot of people agree with him and i think theres theres a big problem that hes going to have in the general election. You look at the republican primary, very different situation than when you look at whats going to happen in november. But the bottom line is theres so many issues that trump wins on, and so many issues that biden wins on and biden isnt very, very popular even with his own base. He doesnt have strong support. People vote for or support for him about 30, 30 of them are enthusiastic supporters, whereas 82 of Trump Supporters are super enthusiastic about supporting him and feel like he cares about people like them. And its a very different, its a very different dynamic. But i think what what mitt romney has said is exactly how about a third of republicans feel . I mean, its remarkable to hear a republican senator, someone who was once the republican nominee for president , say that about now the front runner of the Republican Party arguably the leader of the Republican Party if that is something that President Biden struggles to compete with the voters who may preferred trump on the issues and be willing to overlook that. I mean, what does that say about how democrats have handled trump . Well, first of all, over the course of the coming months, youre going to see the Biden Campaign very rightfully. So remind the American People of what exactly the Trump Presidency was like. Most people. And you said this earlier. I mean, Piedmont Romney might have just cut them and add in people, people have forgotten about the chaos. Theyve forgotten about the divisiveness, the vitriol, and the competency. And so thats why a lot of this data wont really play out. Now, no one should ever underestimate Donald Trumps political strengths, particularly as it pertains to turn it out, his base and turning out voters in Rural America who are not regular voters. Thats why trump will often beat a poll, right . Because youre breaking down the normal projected electorate. But with that being said, though, voters for biden are really, really motivated by two things. One a resolute belief in bidens accomplishments. Bidens agenda, and also an absolute hatred for Donald Trumps, youre going to see extraordinarily motivated voters on both sides. This will of course be a close election, but theres real weaknesses to the data, right now and only time will tell time will indeed tell maybe about eight months from now, max rose lee carter. Thank you both for being here. And of course, also today, just days after record, warm weather passed across the United States. 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