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stake here, $250 million at least, and control of his business empire, and $250 million is how much attorney general letitia james wants trump to pay with his sons after they have been found liable for fraud, and they have been found liable of fraud. we will move off of those pictures and brynn gingras is outside of the courthouse, and what is the latest? >> reporter: and to elaborate more on the pictures that we have seeing showing the viewer, we are noting that his son, eric trump who was scheduled to testify yesterday but he did not take the stand, and it was a dark day in the courtroom, he is also in the courtroom, and letitia james is not expected to attend court today, and that what we are getting today before the court begins. the former president is expected to take the stand in his own defense and be the last witness for the defense monday, but today, he is a spectator, and a defendant in this case of course, and he wants to listen to testimony of an nyu professor of accounting to back up the defense's claim that trump never, you know, overinflated his, didn't break any accounting rules when it comes to the statement of conditions, and a core claim by attorney general that they inflated the value of assets to get better loans and interest ratesb and this witness is expected to say that there is never ever any intent to do so and that is one of the outstanding claims made in this courtroom. the president has to be careful with what he says outside of the courthouse, and we did not hear about the gag order, because it is remaining in effect, and he cannot speak ill of anybody of the judge's staff which he has violated twice so far in the trial, but this is, listen, the full full week of the civil fraud trial going on for a couple of months now, and we do expect the former president to take the stand in his own defense monday, john. >> and brynn gingras outside of the courthouse watching the developments. thank you. sara? >> yes, as john said, he gave you a couple of things of what the defense is going to be, and he said nothing wrong, no victims and he never defrauded anyone. with us is kristen holmes, and kristen, he does not have to testify, but he has been in court to be an observer, and why do you think that he chose to be there today, because he has not been there today? >> it is a last-minute decision, and we were not expecting him to be there monday or tuesday when he has an event in new york, and as brynn noted he is expected to take the stand monday, so one big thing to point out. this is the ramp-up of him taking the stand, and the preparation of hearing the arguments and hearing what his own witnesses are saying before he takes the stand. the other part of this and we have the remember is that these witnesses going forward have been picked by his team. one point that i want to make here is that earlier in the week there was a witness who took the stand who said that mar-a-lago was worth more than a billion dollars, and this is a witness that was called by donald trump's team, and that is what donald trump wants to hear. remember, we have talked about this multiple times, and he is fixated on that number particularly when it is coming to mar-a-lago, and he is believing that it is worth more, and it is really going to the core of who he is, because he has built an entire business empire on this idea that he was a rich business mogul who has expensive properties, and this is cutting to all of it, saying that it was inflated for tax purposes, and so he is really invested in this case, and it is interesting to watch, because at times he is more invested in this case than he has in several of the criminal cases in the criminal charges that he is faced with. >> that is a really good point. i do want to mention that this is not just about the $250 million fine, but it is about the dissolution of his businesses here in new york, and to be able to do business here, and it would be a huge blow to donald trump and the trump businesses here. and thank you, kristen holmes, for all of your reporting, and i toss it to kate. >> joining us for more on this is the legal analyst and criminal attorney joey jackson and legal analyst and state prosecutor elie honig. now what we saw and heard fra donald trump going in, and it is telling, and why is donald trump saying that he won the case, when we know that he lost a portion of it, a found liable of fraud even before this trial began? >> yes, so the first things first, kate. we heard him say over and over again, we have already won this case, and this is false. he has not already won this case, and to the contrary, he has lost a portion of the case. the judge even before the trial started ruled for the attorney general, and against donald trump on one of the causes of action here. now, what donald trump appears to have been refer to, and he kept talking about this appellant division ruling, and there was a ruling by the appellant court before this trial started about ivanka trump, originally ivanka trump was named as a defendant, but they said no, she is out of the case, because the allegations are too old, and they fall outside of the statute of limitation, and that is my best attempt to decipher what he said, and the claims to have already won were hyperbolic and flatly incorrect. >> and joey, defense that he basically summed it up in a really quickly before he went into the court the defense is trying to lay out in terms of we did nothing wrong, there are no victims, the banks love us is how he kind of ended it. what do you make of this defense argument if, and it does become central to the legal argument in court. >> yes, so, kate, remember there are two imperatives here, in the midst of a presidential campaign, so on the one hand, he has to speak to his supporters, and on the other hand far differently, he has to create a narrative to the judge. i say the judge, because there are no jury, and there is instances of the jury nullification, that we acknowledge that defendant did something wrong, but we won't find against them anyway, and this is civil and not criminal, but you are talking to judge, and the last time that donald trump testified he entangled with the judge and he went out into the rhetorical flourishes and he made campaign speeches and the judge said i will remove you from the witness stand and why do i say that? because kate, he is going to testify again, anded when he testifies again, it is going to be about branding this with respect to the witch hunt to which has been brought with regard of what are you doing against he and how great the properties are, and undervalued and we did nothing wrong, and the bankers love us, and nobody think that we did anything wrong, and the only person who thinks that something i did wrong was the corrupt attorney general, and so we will see how it plays in front of the judge, and so far, not well. >> and maybe preparing to spin and try to control the narrative of what is going to, and whatever comes in the end from the judge and how he decides. elie, finally, he was attacking attorney general, and we have been talking about this gag order, and what we have been hearing from donald trump standing there and attacking attorney general and i think that he called her a lunatic, and that does not violate the gag order, right? >> you are correct it. and believe it or not as inflammatory and aggressive as it was, it does not violate the gag order, and important to keep it in mind. it is very narrow. the judges said that you cannot comment on my staff, my clerks, the deputies in the courtroom, and that is it. donald trump is free to criticize in aggressive terms, and this is first amendment in action, the judge, the attorney general in the case against him and it is worth keeping nit mind, because it is a very very narrow gag order, and this is why the appeals court upheld it. yes, donald trump made some aggressive statements, and this is court and not about manners. and you are allowed to be defend yourself aggressively and what he said outside, and even if it did offend, it did not violate the first amendment or the gag order. >> and now, the court will begin, and we will see what happens in court, and the reaction of donald trump when he comes out, and importantly, this is building up to the star witness, donald trump, himself, taking the stand monday to basically bring it all home for the defense team which is going to be a big moment. it is great to see you both, and thank you for jumping on. john? and new details on the shooter who terrorized the unlvm a campus killing three people, and what police are saying about a possible motive tmotive. and the latest impact of the gop debate, and walking into court donald trump didn't mention it. what does that say? donald trump is in a new york court today, and the republican rivals are hitting the campaign trial fresh at a gop debate he was not at. vivek ramaswamy and ron desantis are in iowa and nikki haley is also on the trail. and so now, for the acknowledgment of donald trump. take a listen. >> the fifth guy who does not have the guts to show up here is the one who is way ahead in the polls, and yet, i have these three guys who are seemingly willing to compete with voldemorte, he who shall not be named. >> and so, coming out swinging, chris christie, and john avalon, did anyone take their chance? >> no, the pattern is tiptoeing around donald trump, and coming up with slight shades of difference and growing as we get closer for the voting, but it is insufficient to the threat he represents not just to the republican party, but to the republic, and christie calling politics. >> but chris christie whole throatedly coming after him. and let's talk about nikki haley, because the numbers are looking good, and big gop b backers and she was the real target last night. take a listen. >> the only person more fascist than the biden regime right now is nikki haley. nikki, i don't have a woman problem, but you have a corruption problem, and that is what people need to know. she caves any time the left comes after her, she is going to cave to the donor and come after you. >> and that is because the wall street donors used to support him and now they support me, and i love all of the attention, fellows, thank you. >> that is a smooth way to handle it. clearly she was on the attack. that is because she is on the upswing. >> i think that she had a more muted debate because she was trying to appear above the fray to some extent and one might say presidential and she did not respond to vivek's responds in kind because they were ridiculously and childishly scrawled on the notebad, but she did not take it. and the first rule of a debate is to do no harm, and christy came swinging out of the gate, and he had a commanding debate as well. >> there is a remarkable moment where chris christie came in defense of someone he is against and he is talking about nikki haley. >> we are now into this debate, and he has now insulted nikki haley's basic intelligence and not her positions, and she doesn't know regions and she could not find something on the map that his 3-year-old wants to find, and if you want to find issues, fine. nikki and i disagree on issues and i will tell you, this vi kn -- i have known her for 12 years, and she knows more than you ever know. >> and they are competing for the same vote. >> i think it is instinct and decency, and something that we are not acquainted with, but i think it is great to see that politicians will stand up for someone else's integrity when they are under cheap slanderous attacks like that. i would like to see more like that. >> that is motnot what happened with vivek, because he was the nastiest, but he gave a litany of the conspiracy theories, and this is what he said. >> why am i the only person on the stage who can say that the january 6th now does look like it was an inside job, and the government lied to us for 20 years about saudi arabia's involvement in 9/11 and that it is not some scheme, but it is a democratic party's platform. >> oh, my gosh. >> yeah. look, on the one hand, and playing that bile, that conspiracy theorist sandwich is important even though it is controversial, because it is showing dangerous game he is plagu plagu playing, because it is from 9/11 to january 6, and saying is that it is an inside job. that is a dog whis nol the folks on the far right, a -- whistle the folks on the far right, and that is pandering and so offensive, and so many of the conspiracy theories have a body count behind them, and not the least of the conspiracy theory that has a body count behind them at least six. and so he is i in my mind d to bebe taken serioiously, becacau did d that p pandering t to the regionons of p politics. >> thanknk you, , and wewe go o jojohn. >> a and now, withth the preres of m.i.t.t. and universisity ofn anand d harvard anand the wordr gymnasastics. you bring a lot back to civilian life. leadership skills. technical ability. and a drive to serve in new ways. syracuse university's d'aniello institute for veterans and military families has empowered more than 200,000 veterans to serve their communities and their careers. from professional certifications, to job training, to help navigating programs and services, we give veterans access to support from anywhere in the world. there is growing backlash against the represents othree universities, harvard, the university of pennsylvania and m.i.t. over their capitol hill testimony over anti-semitism on campus. the critics say that none of them specifically condemned the calls of genocide or that it violated their code of conduct. >> does calling for the genocide of jews violate penn's rules or code of conduct -- yes or no? >> if the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment, yes. >> i am asking you specifically for the calling of the genocide of jews, does that constitute bullying or harassment? >> if it is directed and severe enough, it is harassment. >> so the answer is yes. >> it is context-dependent decision. >> that is how all of the presidents pretty much answered that question. now, they are all facing calls for them to resign. cnn van jones is joining us, and have the presidents responded to the backlash that have been coming from so many quarters. >> right, two of three presidents have been responding to the backlash from the alumni, and the donors and the political leaders from both sides of the aisles including pennsylvania governor josh shapiro and the president of pfizer called it despicable from academia, and listen to white house secretary jean carrera. >> i can't believe i have to say it. yes, it is. >> and m.i.t.'s president has not responded yet, but take a look at what they had to say in brief. let me be clear, the calls for violence are a call for action says liz mcgill, and the policies need to be re-evaluate and reviewed. and let me be clear that calls for violence is vile, and we are engaged in calls for immediate and comprehensive action, and what is really coming down to is whether speech is punishable, and these three presidents refusing to call that calls for jgenocide against jews are against the code of conduct, and many thought it was an easy answer, and they wanted to focus on the free speech, and the calls for free speech, but many said they missed the mark here, and whether calls for genocide is bullying or harassment. >> and free speech is violated when it injuries you and puts you in a position to defend yourself, and that is a major problem, and many of the students on campus are living in fear. >> yes, living in fear. and we have news coming in that the penn board of trustees that we got as you are talking is holding an emergency meeting after that testimony. you said that there was some response from the president, and now there is a meeting that is happening right now after this testimony, and i can imagine that this is all that we have been talking about will be discussed in this meeting. >> yes, the governor and senator josh shapiro asked if this is a good fit if liz mcgill should remain in her place, and the trustees saying there is a lot of concern here. >> and in particular one who donates a lot of money to harvard as well. >> and now, the board of trustees is now going to hold a emergency meeting with the board of trustees and what do you know? >> this is hastily arranged meeting and really just arranged and began at 9:00 a.m., and held virtually, and again, the timing is crucial, because set days after what can be described as a disastrous hearing for the college presidents including he is asking for the board to take action here, and, so, sara, there is signs of intense pressure on the university of pennsylvania's president, but really all the university's presidents right now. >> and what we are hearing, matt egan, from your reporting that the university of pennsylvania's board of trustees is holding a meeting after what most people saw is a disastrous hearing on dealing with anti-semitism on cam campuses. thank you. john? well, it is me, apparently. so we will delve more into what is happening on the board meeting and delving more to what is happening with donald trump at that court stating his case filed by late teeetitia james wt $500 million lawsuit. we will be right back. all right. a brand-new cnn poll is finding that president biden who began the year with a 45% approval rating is now just at 37%. 63% disapprove. those are the worst numbers since taking office. joining us now, governor tim walz of minnesota fresh off of being elected the chair of the democratic governors association, and congratulations to you, governor. and 37% approval rating for the democratic president, and how much of a drag is that on the democrats trying to get elected governor? >> well, good morning, john. thank you for having me, and anything is possible associated with congress. you get associated with the dysfunction, and especially the house republican, and for us as governors, you will see us enacting the joe biden agenda, and the democratic governors have 20 point approval ratings above and beyond anybody else, so we are looking at the binary choice, and whether it is the guy in court or the folks weirdly on the stage last night ver sauce guy who is delivering, so i am not worrying about this. polls come and go, and the fact is if you are affecting positively the folks across the country, and next november, we will have the answer. >> and now, you get the phone calls answered, but now the head of the dga, you get those phone calls answered, but what would you say to the president? >> well, the governors are proud of what is being here, and whether it is moving the climate agenda or the gretchen whitner telling the story of moving the vehicle agenda. i wait every week that joe biden has delivered it, and we are building roads and bridges and water treatment plants. run on the record, and he has one to be proud of, and we have to get the message is clear. >> and no doubt, projects are being built, and the country has not gone into the recession that many people predicted and still economic growth, and yet, and yet n the latest cnn poll, only 29% of the people would rate the country's economic conditions good. 71%, and how do you explain that disconnect? >> well, some of it is that we polarized our perceptions about everything. inflation was real. it is global, and i came back from the australian trade mission, and they would gladly trade with us, but people did see the prices rise and you don't see the deflation, so a lot of it whether the real wages are up, and they are, and it is hard to see it immediately, and it is going to be becoming clear, and the folks recognize the high employment rates, and it is more messaging. we need a louder drum beat, and we have seen $5 billion investments, and this is the nature of what we are in, and again, i say it, it is not an imaginary, and it could be better or we could have a special candidate to do it, because it is donald trump and the dysfunction and the things they did versus joe biden's vision of the middle-class, so i am confident we will get there, and it is not that unusual. >> you say donald trump, and did you watch the republican presidential debate last night? >> i watched parts of it. i will say it is painful. it is bizarre where they are going, and no vision for america, but look, it is going to be donald trump. the mega folks have a stranglehold on the republican party and nobody has the courage to say anything. and the lesson of kevin mccarthy is where you will end up, and have the courage to stand up and defend the democracy. >> and you called it just now bizarre, and you did an interview in politico after being elected the head of the dga, and you said no generic republican, and these guys are weird. once they start running, their weirdness shows up, and what do you mean? >> i will stand by that. >> what did you mean? >> well, look, the strange things they are obsessed with demonizing our children, and obsessed with people's personal lives in the bedrooms, and i am surrounded by states trying to ban "charlotte's web" while we are trying to feed people public lunch, and they will weirdly obsess with everything to be mean and cruel and small in their ideas, and i did not hear anything last night that did anything different to that, so i will stand by that, and americans know, it is weird stuff to be focused on, and in of the times it is just projection, and we hear the stories of projecting morality, and as elected leaders, you don't want to hear a sermon but live one. so you need the middle-class, to protect the reproductive life, and governors are popular with that and we can do that because of joe biden's policies whether it is the infrastructure act, chips act, and bringing infrastructure back to eric many, many s many, -- to america, and that is what they want to hear and not demonizing people for what they do in their bedroom. >> thank you so much for joining us governor tim walz. >> thank you. interesting. d now, there is a call of censuring jamal bowman for pulling a fire alarm falsely. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the police are learning more about a potential motive in yesterday's mass shooting on the campus of university of nevada, las vegas. multiple sources are telling cnn that investigators are looking into the possibility that the shooter was passed over for a job at unlv. the sources are saying that the shooter is identified as a 60-plus-year-old career college professor and he opened up fire at the university business school. that is how it is playing out. now three people were murdered. one of them still in the hospital recovering from injuries. the gunman also died in a confrontation with the police. joining me now as the investigation is clearly far from over is retired fbi supervisory special agent jeremy brunner, and such sadness that took over yesterday, and the terror that took over the campus. the suspect is dead, and they have the identity, and the possible motive of what is told to cnn. you hear that, and that he was passed over for a job, and you think what about this profile of the suspect? >> good morning, kate. thank you for having me. the fbi along with all of the las vegas law enforcement, unlv police, and the clark county sheriffs will all work this together, because obviously he had experience and working in georgia and east carolina university, and so all of those locations will be looking at to determine what was in his mind, what was the motivations for this. so, the investigation is going to take multiple aspects, multiple areas, and they will look at everything, and interview all of the persons that he talk to within the last one or two years to determine was there signs or red flags, and whether this, you know, why he was not accepted to work there at the university of unlv and determine that they are going to look at all of his electronic device, the phones and the laptops to try to get into his mind, the days before, and the hours before, and see if there was some sort of motivation to this. and most importantly to learn from this, and to see if there was signs along the way, what could have been seen by certain people if there were red flags along the way so that in the future, the fbi and other law enforcement agencies can look towards identifying the red flags in advance to prevent these shootings like this. >> and the facts are that the suspect is dead, and you are saying that especially in the final days of looking at kind of the profile of what he was doing online and in reality, if you will, but how far back do the investigators need to look to learn from this. >> investigators are going to look as far back as they need to, and they are going to look back to see if there were incidents five years or ten years from now, and there is no rock unturn and no lead that is going to be looked at, and to determine and to create the case. because there is two investigations really going on here. the homicide at, the homicides that occurred at the campus is going to be investigated by las vegas metro p.d. and they will be assisted by the fbi running a caseworking with the atf determining where the weapons were obtain and purchased. as they continue to move forward, if there is a federal case, the fbi will be in the best position to run the case with the department of justice. las vegas metro p.d. is going to be doing the best they can with all of the assets of the fbi and federal agencies and all of the other local agencies can provide to them to get into his mindset to determine where he was going, and what the motivations were in advance of it, and the response by the detectives that responded to the area was outstanding, and exactly what was supposed to happen, and getting them, getting the shooter neutralized before any other students could be harmed. >> yeah. dan brunner, thank you so much. sara. >> all right. thank, kate, breaking news for you, and the house is voting is right now on the republican-led censure of jamal bowman who pulled that fire alarm when congress was in session voting on a spending bill in september to avoid a government shutdown. manu raju is on capitol hill as we are watching the vote behind me right there, and what do you know this morning? >> yeah, we are expecting jamal bowman to be censured mostly along the party lines and right now, 214 votes in the affirmative, and 191 against, and there were some in vulnerable swing districts, but we expect the votes to be there. censuring was for the most egregious offenses, but over the past two year, there have been rashida tlaib censured over the remarks of anti-semitic remarks, and now jamaal bowman pleading guilty to willfully pulling a false fire alarm in a congressional session to keep the spending bill open for that, and initially he said that he thought that it was a exit and confused by the situation, and he didn't realize that he was pulling the fire alarm, and that though, it was not -- it flew in the face of what he ultimately plead guilty to, but the republicans are trying to make a point here moving forward to pass this resolution along party lines to censure him. they expect it to go to the well of the house to be formally admonish and a formal slap on the wrist in a matter of minutes, guys. >> that is what is happening right now, and the vote is over, and it did look like it did pass. thank you, manu raju, and we appreciate all of the voting. >> yes, we saw congressman bowman there to walk under the well to take the medicine. and donald trump is sitting in a new york courtroom to listen to testimony in the weeks' long fraud trial. he is not testifying today, so why is he there?

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