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♪ you are looking live at the white pillars of glen memorial church in atlanta, georgia, as america prepares to say good-bye to the steel magnolia, who forever change d what it means o be a first lady. you're watching live coverage of the celebration of the remarkable life and times of rosalynn carter. i'm jake tapper in washington. soon the ceremony starts to honor the woman who spent eight decades at jimmy carter's side. the numbers are a testament to a marriage that was good and l lasting 4 children, 12 grandchildren, 14 great grandchildren, and counting. born eleanor rozalin smith is, she defied early trauma, not just as a bystander, awe as a true people. she was the very model of a modern first lady. her hand touching every nook of her husband's presidency. she was the protector of her husband's political brand, the first to take an office in the east wing. she attended cabinet meetings. she was also her husband's stand in on the campaign trail in 1980 when the iran hostage crisis consumed the nation and the world for 444 days. today the country gets its first glimpse in quite some time at jimmy carter, and he will be at rosalynn's side for the last time. the 39th president, as you may recall, entered hospice care earlier this year in february. the funeral will also bring together a roster of american luminaries, who are rarely together. the current president and first lady, the current vice president kamala harris and second gentleman doug inhofe, the 42nd president bill clinton, and we will also see all the living former first ladies, form er first lady hillary clinton, former first lady laura bush, former first lady michelle obama melania trump. i want to go straight to atlanta and eva mcend, who is outside the church. what are you learning about today's ceremony, as well as how it was planned? >> reporter: jake, the most remarkable aspect is that 99-year-old former president jimmy carter will be here. though i'm told he's not expected to speak, his grandson jason telling me that he is physically diminished and he himself is approaching the end of his life, but that powerfulfully, he wouldn't have missed this for the world. we also know many of the things we see here today. garth brooks performing, the atlanta sim phony orchestra, that this was by rosalynn carter's design. prior to her passing, she illustrated what she want theed this service to look like. and although there will be many dignitaries here, many famous faces, the family tells me that what is most encouraging to them is all of the georgians that have express ed their support fr the family. as the motorcade made that long trip three hours here to atlanta, people lined the streets in support of the carters. that has really just given them so much strength at this difficult time. >> you keep us posted as events developing out there. dana, let me turn to our panel here in the studio. obviously, there's going to be a big focus on rosalynn carter's legacy, put we also can't escape she was such a family woman. she was the matriarch of the carter clan. children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, and though she was so many things, including a leader in mental health and care giving, that was the role that she was proudest of, the m matriarch of the carter clan. >> 2 grandchildren and great grandchildren, a very, very big family that she created as the matriarch. and the things that you just touched on that she dealt with not just in the white house, but in her very long post white house service are directly related to her experience as a mother and grandmother, fighting for mental health, fighting for better care giving. those are all critical, critical parts of her legacy. as we see later, we can talk later on about how she helped shape decisions that her suck sorts made, many of whom will be there and paying tribute to her today. >> there are a lot of people who are going to hear from amy carter today for the first time maybe ever, but who remember when she came to washington in 1977, a little girl with blond hair, who went to public school in d.c. that was another break from d.c. tradition. i don't think anybody went to public school since then, presidential off sfspring spp s was allowed to roller skate in the west wing. they were very unconventional. >> there's some wonderful photographs that i remember from realtime watching. >> i do too. >> of amy carter at a state dinner reading a book. she was invited to these formal occasions, but she brought a book along with her. i think there was a tree house that was there burks she seemed very much the normal child, which reflects so much of the carters. one thing that i want to mention about today, which is we have spoken a about how president carterer has been in hospice care for quite some time now. i have spoken to close family friends, who really underscored that his health is very fragile right now. but they said he was insistent about being here today. it was not sure even last night when he said to the family, he wanted to come. they weren't sure. but they said through shear force of his will, which we know a lot about and determination, he insisted on being here. just finally, so many of their friends and family have said the following. they talk about a partnership, but they can't imagine one without the other. this really was a team. >> the name of amy carter's cat that she brought to the white house with her in 1977. rosalynn carter's christian faith such an important part of her loif, such an important part of her husband's life. it's going to be very much reflected in the service today. >> she's long been a sunday schoolteacher. she's also been the deacon of her church, like her husband. she also participated in the struggle and left their church in plains, when their church wouldn't integrate. mrs. carter had a tough time in 1980 when the moral majority was supp supp supporting president and some began to question her faith because of some of the policies that her husband had had stood for. she couldn't understand how people could dould her die pity. this is a woman who read the bible every day and probably continued most of every day. so she was someone who was pained by how politics had begun to shape the way in which we thought about piety and religion in our country. >> the activating issue for a lot of people and the moral majority was race and integration. they were opposed that the carter irs was opposing the fact that segregated the schools were getting tax protection. >> let's also add as well, the equal rights amendment, that many americans who felt that there was a traditional role for a woman and that it was something they had grown up with. they had a hard time and didn't respect people like rozalin carter and betty ford before her. >> to see all the living former fist ladies together today, there's a special kans to that. >> this is essentially the woman who founded the office of the first lady. she gets money from congress to do this and gets permission from the executive branch to do this. but also, she embodies activism, an active agenda, and says there should be things that the first lady does. there should be plans. we should care about things like mental health, the elderly, children, vaccines, that is a fundamental part of who this country is and what we want this administration to be about. so what's really remarkable here is every single first lady has followed that pattern. they have done it in different ways perhaps, but there's no doubt that they were all inspired by rosalynn carter. >> how did rosalynn carter establish the modern first lady position, do you think? >> well, i think if it weren't for her, her huz wouldn't have been elected to the georgia state senate or governorship. she would most want the to be remembered for her mental health work. she is the first first lady since eleanor roosevelt to address congress. and she brought these concerns from the people around the country when she was campaigning to her husband. she saw herself as a continue wit for her husband. there's a great story where she was campaigning for him in 1966 and she was 4:30 in the morning, if that tells you something about her commitment standing outside of a factory, and she said to this very tired woman coming off her shift, she said, i hope you can go home and rest now. the woman said, actually, my daughter is mentally ill. she heard this story and that night rosalynn carter stood in line at her husband's rally and shook his hand. he was surprised to see her. she said i would like to salk t you about mental health. that's what she would most want us to be talking about. >> you met her several times. >> i have. i do want to respond to the fact that her activism at the period of time that she was first lady was really a juxtapose against a period of time in our country where women's roles were being elevated. and in fact, her fight for the era, when it failed, when the ratification failed of the final four states, ironically, women's groups and feminists groups blamed jimmy cart er for puttin his wife front in center in trying to push for the e.r.a. so there was this balance of her using her podium, which she used very effectively as an activism in that period of time she served, against a backdrop of a country that was reckoning with the role of women. because first ladies before her were very active. eleanor roosevelt was very active. but the office of the first lady, we absolutely have is heard a thing for formalizing it, putting a structure around it. i was a direct recipient of that being a chief of staff to a first lady. and really credit mrs. carter for fighting for that, even while her husband when he ran for president ran on part of a platform of cutting the white house. >> we see in atlanta some motor kads beginning to arrive. we think this is president biden. we're going to squeeze in a quick break. i'm going to talk about her special friendship with rosalynn carter. we're standing by for a tribute service for the first lady to begin. we'll be right back. welcome back to cnn's special coverage hoerng the incredible life and legacy of former first lady rosalynn carter. you're looking at live pictures of the church in atlanta where a tribute service will take place moments from now. we saw former president bill clinton arriving just moments ago. mj lee is at the white house for us. president biden has had an erp enduring friendship with the carters that has spanned decades. he was elected to the senate before jimmy carter was even elected president. >> that's right. and obviously, no surprise at all that it was personally important to the president and first lady to attend this service today, even though the president will had not be speaking at today's service. this was about showing respect and support to the entire carter family, including the former president jimmy carter. what i'm told in recent months, president biden and his top advisers have really been in close touch with members of the carter family, including a few day bfrs rosalynn carter's passing, the president spoke with her grandson. then on the day of her passing, he was in touch with one of the family's spokes people. what's interesting is that even though we're all pretty familiar with the president saying in public, i was the first senator to endorse jimmy carter's presidential bid in 1976, it's also clear that the relationship between the bidens and the carters really evolved after the bidens came back to the white house in 2021. the president talks about how he very much values the advice that you can get from a former president. of course, only a few men who have had that job who are still living. and the night before the bidens inauguration, he spoke with jimmy carter who are couldn't attend the inauguration. they talked about setting up a visit and they ended up visiting the carters in georgia to mark the president's 100th day in presidency. so this is a relationship that's heavy on personal history, but also on just the historic symbolism as well. >> thank you. joining us now to discuss is melinda gates. thank you for joining us. i know you have called rosalynn carter one of your heroes. how did she is inspire you and your own work? >> thank you for having me. let me first say, condolence s to her family because just a huge loss. she was just an absolute trailblazer. her courage for me stapds out in this work to talk about mental health. even today, there's still stigma around mental health, but rozalin knew it was important to talk about these issues, to talk about care giving, but to get changes that would affect communities and families. her courage to speak out early and often and do the right thing, that's a lasting legacy that all of us can follow. >> it's tough to even explain to people how being the first lady of georgia and making mental health how courageous that was to make mental health your priority as the first lady of georgia in 1971 or whenever it was. really ground breaking, really amazing. she didn't just lead on that issue from the first lalady's house in georgia or washington or even through the carter center she made significant strides by volunteering with habitat for humanity and the boys and girls clubs and through her church and her institute for caregivers. what lessons have you learned from her commitment to service? we couldn't even list all the organizations that she founded much less joined. >> what i learned from rosalynn was that it was not just about the what you do, but it's about how you go about it. and what rosalynn did was she attested and first saw the humanity in the person. and from that, she then sprung to what can we do. so she volunteered in and out of of the hospitals in georgia and was there on the ground meeting with people. at 12, she lost her father. her mother is grieving, is and she cares for her three younger siblings at age 12. so she knew at some point, we all will not only be caregivers, but we'll become caregivers. she also saw mental health when she was working in this hospital and the profound problems that it created for the person and the family. after seeing the humanity, she then said, okay, i'm going to push for a policy change in 1980. a huge governmental policy change that affected mental health in communities and funded it, she then said later when she was out of office, she said, through the rosalynn carter institute, i'm going to train journalists and train the american people on how to speak about mental health. she called people out and said we can't talk about these people as inmates. these are people who have mental health challenges. that was ground breaking. that was half a century ago. her courage was something. >> this is a photo we're going to show right now that you posted of yourself with the carters. what was she like behind closed doors and what did you talk about? >> this was at their home in georgia when we went to visit them. she still liked to speak her mind, and so much so, it was cute. jimmy carter would say, okay, rosie, i hear you. but the thing that was profound about our visit to their home is she wanted to make sure instead of having is a private dinner, she said i'm hosting tonight. i've been there part of the day, a conference with our partners on mental health and care giving. let's go to the dinner at the community center. so the carters and we went through the buffet line. with oplastic plates and forks sat with her partners at dinner and discussed the real issues on the ground a that she was seeing in these areas. >> there was a real humility that they lived. very rare in former presidents, to say the least. thank you so much for talking to us about your friendship. how special. really appreciate it. coming up next, the former first lady's club, including a rare appearance from melania trump. they are paying tribbute to one of their own. more 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[ cheers ] yeah! woho! running up and down that field looks tough. it's a pitch. get way more into what you're into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. you are looking at live pictures of former first lady rosalynn carter's hearse arriving at glen memorial church on the campus of emery university. welcome back to cnn's special coverage of rosalynn carter's tribute service. she was a woman who helped shape, helped create the role of the modern firstly day. today the first ladies who followed in her footsteps, all of them are coming together to honor her incredible legacy. that does include melania trump, who has largely avoided the public eye since leaving washington, d.c. in 2021. i want to turn to kristen holmes. we rarely see melania trump. i don't know i have seen her at all since january 2021. what are you hearing about why she came today? >> you almost never see melania trump, even though her husband is running for president again. he's only been on the campaign trail once. other than she's not appeared by his side for his court appearances. she's taken a very different and untraditional approach to being a former first lady. she's not giving speeches. talking about her initiatives, she is really behind closed doors and that is the way that i'm told she likes it. but today she is taking part in a very traditional act, which is joining the other and current first lady as part of this tribute to rosalynn carter. i'm told that in part this decision was made by her because she didn't want to draw attention to herself. she knew all of the other former first ladies were going to be there. it would become more of a thing if she didn't attend. now former president trump will not be there, but one thing that was surprising, just given truch trump's nature, he put out a kind statement about rosalynn carter when she died. >> kristen, we have so many legacies of so many first ladies. i could go thus them each firstly day and what they stood for. my michelle is obama had her fitness and eating right. what does melania trump want to be known for? >> one of the things she wants to be known for is the online bullying. that was part of the be best initiate i-. she is said in a recent interview that she would do that again if she were to go back to the white house. she would expand on that, protecting children. one thing that has been clear to me is that she loves her son. that's something that we hear from all of the people around her. that's something she wants to be known for. >> thank you so much. let's talk with our panel again. the "new york times" called rosalynn an equal co-president. i don't know if you agree with that analysis, but how big was her role in the carter white house? >> she wasn't co-president. but she built on two previous first ladies like eleanor rosevelt, she cared deeply about policy. like lady johnson, she was the president's closest confidant. she merged these two in really the most powerful first lady of the modern era. and she was allowed to attend any cabinet meeting she wished. she didn't participate. she sat in the back and took notes. why? she did it so she could talk to jimmy about the issues he was facing. and she gave him advice. it's clear from her memoir, he didn't always take her advice. he probably should have, because she had a much more finely tuned political ear than he did. he wasn't political at all. she would tell him, you don't want to do this right now, do you? before the new york primary, when he was running. she said, you don't really want to announce inflation cuts right now. which are going to impact new york city big time. he did. he lost the primary. but she was -- he said it too. he would call her his secret weapon. she was a confidant. she is cared about policy. and one more thing. this is not like any previous first lady. like the way john f. kennedy used his brother, jimmy carter used rosalynn as a back channel. he sent is rosalynn to latin america to deliver messages not to the wives of the leaders of will tin america, but the leaders themselves about the importance of transitioning to democracy. so we'd never seen a first lady like her before. >> interesting. rosalynn revolutionized the office of first lady as noted taking it from an unusual office to one that was recognized, funded by congress. how did that transition change the way that first ladies have operated since? >> enormously. anita actually worked in the office, so you can definitely speak better to that than i can, but what i can say is this is more about what you said. in her memoir, she wrote, i was more a political partner than a political wife. one thing i can say to answer your question about the office, but just about modelling what it's like to be not just a first lady, but a mother in the white house. we talked about monelania trump being there. she had a school-aged child in the white house. but the person who really modelled how she would raise her daughter after rosalynn carter was hillary clinton. i was just communicating with somebody close to hillary clinton, who said very specifically, the then first lady clinton watched and looked at the way that rosalynn carter dealt with the fact that she had a 9-year-old. c chelsea clinton was 13 years old. and she is tried to model a lot of the actions, maybe avoid some of the mine fields that rosalynn carter unintention ally stepped in and that were very difficult for amy carter, like the first day of school when she went to the public school it was a media circus. that was something that the clintons were trying to avoid. but it wasn't really especially at the time modern media, it wasn't something that the carters had any kind of path laid out for them before amy carter was there. that's why the carters did so for the other families coming next, who had school-aged children. >> it is such a reminder at the end of the day they hold this powerful platform. she used the platform to the fullest. no doubt about it, on the foreign policy front, the domestic policy front, putting herself physically in the east wing, where no first lady had done that before. but she was also wife and mother. there was a family that lives in the white house. trying to balance these two things with an increasingly not intrusive, but interested media, she what you mentioned, the foreign policy trip, she was able to do all of this because the husband wanted her to. all of the state department briefers told her that she would not be successful to not go theres that macho-dominated environment. you will not be successful. what she ultimately ended up doing by meeting with each of the leaders was she opened doors for our diplomats to actually have access to them, to help them in this period of transition. these were a lot of revolutionary governments that were coming in. they were antiamerican and by sending her, that was such an incredible step encouraged by the president to really defy all his advisers as well. in fact, his pollster told him when he gave the president a report of how americans perceived her trip, which c changed dramatically how they looked at her because it was so positive. 80% of americans thought it was great. president carter wrote at the bottom of the note before it went to mrs. carter, now rosalynn, don't run against your husband. >> coming up, the country will get a rare glimpse of former president carter since he entered hospice in february. he's expected to attend his beloved wife's memorial service. we'll have the latest on his health, next. welcome back to cnn's special coverage of a celebration of the remarkable life and legacy of rosalynn carter. i'm jake tapper in washington. you are currently looking at live pictures of glen memorial church in atlanta, georgia, where a tribute service for the former first lady is about to begin. former president jimmy carter will be there to honor his late wife. they were married for 77 years. his attendance has been up in the air. it's been a day-to-day decision because of his own frail health. he entered hospice care in february. chief medical correspondent sanjay gupta has spent a lot of time with the carters. they all live in atlanta, georgia. he joins me now. former president carter, he's been in hospice care, but he is expected to be at the ceremony today. he's not speaking. it's pretty remarkable that he's going to be there. >> look, it is remarkable. you think about the fact he's 99 years old. he's a real fighter. age the is an interesting thing. you have people who are these super agers. it doesn't mean that they don't have declines in their life, but the age at which they have these declines is just much, much later. so up until age 90 or so, he was just a very healthy guy. so we know from his grandson jason, i think you talked about this earlier, he's very physically dmiminished. we haven't seen president carter in quite some time. so we're not sure how he's going to appear, if he's going to say anything, it sounds like he's probably not going to make any comments, but he is probably one of these people who is just sort of a super ager who has this decline but comes in his 90s. i have seen him swinging hammers for habitat well into his mid-90s. >> he's such a survivor. he survived cancer that spread to his brain in 2015. he survived surgery to relieve pressure on his brain in 2019. he's been in hospice care since february. here we are towards the end of november. it's hard to imagine a world without him, frankly. >> yeah, it's really interesting as well. i spenlt a fair amount of time with him. i remember going back to august of 2015. shehe was doing this press conference talking about the fact he had melanoma and it spread to his brain. we had been talking before that because they found mel knanoma his liver and they were trying to treat it. but he did this press conference in august of that year. it felt very much like a good-bye press conference. listen to a little bit of it. >> i have had a wonderful life. i have had had thousands of friends. i have had an exciting and adventurous and gratifying existence. so i was surprisingly at ease much more than my wife was. but now, it's in the hands of god. i will be prepared when my day comes. >> you sort of get a sense of what i'm talking about, but let me show you sort of what happened in the months and years after that. so that was august of 2015. he was diagnosed with melanoma that had spread to his brain. i have been a doctor for 30 ars, jake. for most of that time, once you had certain kansers that had spread to the brain, there was little the you could do. we know by december of of that year, he was declared cancer free. he was given radiation and these immune therapy drugs, that were prnew at that point. the one that he took was pretty new at that point. now it is approved for 14 different types of cancers. president carter was one of the early re sip yents of that treatment it's a part of his legacy a lot of people don't realize. he was declared cancer free. swinging hammers for habitat for humanity. if you go further into the timeline into 201, i think what started to happen, and i think accelerated the process for him, that very late decline in life really had a lot to do with falls. he fell, he broke his hip at one point. he fractured his pelvis at one point. he fell and hit his head and had to have surgery to remove a blood collection. that was back in 2019. then as you mentioned, for the last seven or eight months now, he has been in hospice care. which hospice, by the way, does not mean that things are necessarily eminent because he's been there for nine months, but it obviously means the medical care he was getting needed to be at home. his ability to travel to hospitals and clinics was reduced. and they realized that even though things were not eminent, he was not going to be able to do some of the same things he had done before and that what he was dealing with, they weren't thinking of it in terms of cure anymore. they were thinking in terms of management. >> now he's lost the love of his life. thank you so much. coming up, my equal partner in everything i ever accomplished, unquote. that's how former president carter long described his wife rosalynn. we're going to hear about their 77-year marriage, as we standby for rosalylynn carter'r's memor servicice just mininutes awaway. stay w with us. welcome back to our coverage. you're looking at live pictures of glen memorial church where the memorial service performer for first lady roslyn carter will take place. we just saw images of country music stars inside that church. alongside others, we are including president biden and the first , dr. jill biden, president clinton, and all former living former first ladies. we have with us jimmy carter biographer ky bird joining us. i want to bring him in in a second. first we have an update on who has entered so far. tell us, who has made it to church on time, as they say? >> we know that congressman sanford bishop is here. andrew young is here. the owner of the falcons, among other luminaries. something that i think that we should all think about going into this tribute is how central faith is to the carters. i'm looking at the program here and i see morning has broken is among the songs that we will hear. when i was at maranatha, their home church over the weekend, the congregants were encouraged to sing that song. that was rosalynn's favorite song. we will hear "great is thy faithfulness." that is something getting them through this difficult time. faith and family. so central to the carters' lives. >> despite his frail health, jimmy carter will be there, we are told, to honor his late wife of almost eight decades. the carters were married for 77 years. longer than any other presidential couple. their marriage was longer than the lives of most u.s. presidents. let us bring in the author of the outlier. the author of the unfinished presidency of jimmy carter. in addition tole other books, perhaps you saw oppenheimer over the summer. when we say president carter say gab to his wife of 77 years, he will be saying goodbye to his political adviser, his best friend. it will be the end of truly one of the greatest love stories in american, not just political history but in american history. what can you share with us about their nearly 80-year long partnership? >> it was an amazing journey for them. white house aides at the time, in the carter white house, they did refer to rosalynn as the steel magnolia, precisely because she was so steely and so principled. and everyone knew that their partnership was ironclad. i like to recall the quote from one of their close friends and white house advisers who once said, they don't have friends. they have each other. it was that close of a marriage. it was a real friendship. and he trusted her and she had enormous political instincts and principles, not only on mental as you have been mentioning. but she had strong views about human rights in general. race, passing the e.r.a., feminist rights. i like to tell one story to remind people of how she took her politics and made it very personal. when she became first lady of georgia, in 1971, she toured the women's prison and was appalled by the conditions. and in the course of that visit, she met a young african american woman named mary prince who was a convicted murderess, who was serving a lifetime sentence for murder. rosalynn became convince that had this young woman mary prince was innocent and southern justice had miscarried its justice. she hired mary prince, brought her into the georgia governor's mansion, and appointed her the nanny for amy. and then when they moved to the white house, mary prince lived in the third floor of the white house. she is still part of their family to this very day. she lives in plains. she's still working for them part time. it is an incredible insight into the personal character of this amazing first lady. >> so i asked, i've only gotten to interview jimmy carter once. and i asked him what his secret was with rosalynn. how they made it so long as a couple. and he gave never four secrets. one of them was to basically never go to bed angry. one of them was to give each other space. you'll notice that i'm not reading from notes. i committed them to memory. one of them was to give each other space to do your own thing. one was to find things you like doing together. for them it was family. the first i thought was really interesting. to pick a good partner. he knew that it wasn't, you couldn't just do this with anyone. you had to select the right person. and i think that was something he really appreciated that he had done. i know they met each other when they were a few days old. he knew that he had struck gold when he met her. and he was like, this is perfect. i got the right woman here. this is great. and he never lost sight of that. tell me what you think. >> that's absolutely correct. and it's interesting to be reminded that miss lillian, carter's famously eccentric mother, was a nurse who actually delivered rosalynn when she was born. a few days later, she brought jimmy over to see the new baby in town. and there was an age difference of three years. so they didn't grow up knowing each other. they knew of each other. they encountered each other. when he was back on leave from the naval academy one day, as a young man, he spotted her in the church, invited her out on a date to see a movie. came home that night and told miss lillian, his mother, that he was going to marry rosalynn. and you know, he knew exactly, like you just said, this was the woman. and you know, rosalynn plmarrie jimmy at the age of 18. very young. and she idolized this young naval officer. she also, interestingly enough, saw him as a ticket out of plains. out of this tiny little town of 668 people. and she wanted to see the world. and jimmy showed her the world. for the next six years, they moved around various naval bases in hawaii and massachusetts and connecticut. and then one day, jimmy unilaterally announced that they were moving back to plains and he was quitting the navy. and she was horrified. she was literally horrified and she yelled at him. she argued with him. he just said, no, i have to go back. i have to take care of the family business. my father has died. they drove back on the long car ride back to georgia from massachusetts. she didn't speak a word to him. she was that angry. so you know, it was a long marriage but it had its moments of crisis. >> oh, yeah. marriage is work. no one ever said wasn't. it lasted 77 years. so i mean, it's not like they didn't know what they were doing. stick around. we'll keep you on the panel. and one thing that i really wanted to know. you said during the break that you got a chance to talk to the carters about what they really thought about the previous president, donald trump. and they both answered you. and they gave different answers. we know that jimmy and rosalynn had very different personas publicly and jimmy carter spoke more publicly than rosalynn. what did they tell you? what did they think of donald trump? >> it's like what melinda was saying. rosalynn spoke her mind. she trusted her gut. i was in their living room in plains in this very modest home, a tiny town. they were sitting next to each other. i asked about donald trump. this was in 2018. and will president carter gave a kind of long-winded, thoughtful answer saying ronald reagan lied, too, and there have been some terrible republicans in office. and rosalynn nudged him and said jimmy, come on, this is different. this is a president unlike any president we've seen before. he's destroying the country. i mean, she was incredibly outspoken. i think we saw that a lot with her. during the iran hostage crisis, she call him up when she was campaigning for him and he was in the rose garden trying to get the hostages out -- >> let me interrupt for one second. this is what we see here. that governor brian kemp, the republican governor of georgia, in his second term. jimmy carter was governor of georgia, they could only serve one term, i believe. that's the mayor of atlanta who is just walking in behind him. i'm sorry. go ahead. >> rosalynn said to him when she was campaigning, this was during the iran hostage crisis and she was campaigning for him. she did a lot of leg work because he was at home in the white house trying to get the hostages released. she said this is looking really bad. she called him from the campaign trail. i need to let you know that. and he said i don't want to hear it. so there were ups and downs in their marriage. they wrote a book together and they fought so much writing this book that they had two separate documents. they had jimmy on one and rosalynn on the other. they were honest about their problems and that is what makes them empathetic and work, a real couple. >> we just saw a glimpse of senator and reverend raphael warnock. the first african american senator since reconstruction from georgia which had to have been a very significant moment in jimmy carter's life, as someone who worked so hard for racial progress. especially in georgia. especially in georgia. >> i was going to say, i love the story about their, let's say inability to write this book together. so much so. >> remind everybody of that story. >> they finally gave up. they were fighting so much. the editor that, okay, you will write this and your name will go here. and you will write this and your name will go here. >> what exactly were the differences again in. >> this was -- >> i think she liked to take her time and he was fast. she was a little more thoughtful about it. he had written more books than she had. >> he could write a book or two a year. >> he was really angry that she took everything he wrote as a first draft and was rewriting all of his work. >> senator john ossoff, another democratic senator from the state of georgia and the first jewish senator from the state of georgia. >> what i would add to what kai bird said, it's the word independent. i think it was key both in what we saw of her public persona but also in their relationship. and you told the story about how, i guess, kai bird told the story of how she was furious when they went home to plains. how she wanted to see the world. he also didn't ask her permission or discuss with her that he was going to run for office. that was a unilateral decision. on the other hand, unlike going back to plains, she liked this decision. again, it was going back into the world. she liked being that political partner. and i just think -- >> she was a great campaigner. >> she was. she would go into little towns with a friend. i think it was his sister. she would look for where the tallest radio towers were in these rural towns and knew there were radio stations there and show up and say would you like to interview me? i'm rosalynn carter myself husband jimmy is running for governor. they would say jimmy who? she went prepared with a list of questions to be asked. and she loved politics. later in life, it said she loved politics. she loved people. i think there's one thing, if i can add to the story kai bird told, so important about president's carter for racial justice. when that, when they left the governorship to come to washington, to the white house, mary prince, who now had been working for them in the governor's mansion, she had to go back to prison. the program was a state prisonerer can work in a state office. so when they were coming to washington, the carters had to go before the parole board to have her come with them to the white house, and jimmy had to agree to be her parole officer. >> is that right? that's incredible. kai bird, you left out that part of the story. >> so true. >> that's quite a wrinkle that jimmy carter had to be the parole officer, the president of the united states. >> great story. >> she'll definitely be here. i talked to mary in plains. she was still working for the family, like kai said. lived down the street. she was like a daughter to them. >> and kai bird, the decision to send amy carter to public school, how much of that was rosalynn carter? how much of that was jimmy carter? i know that wa as a symbol of their faith in public education. i don't know, i don't think any president since then has sent their kid to public school. usually they would send them to sidwell friends, quaker school. >> the decision was rosalynn behind that? >> i think rosalynn was slatly behind that. and jimmy was behind it as a matter of frugality. he didn't want to spend the tuition that sidwell friends would charge. he was a supporter of public schools. she was both products of public schools some small plains. and so it made only good sense. they thought it was a natural and ordinary decision to send amy to the public school that was just a few blocks from the white house. of course, it was not only just a public school. she was probably the, one of the handful of white children who went to this nearly all black african american school. >> so you talked about, from massachusetts to plains, rosalynn didn't speak with her husband because she did not want to go back to plains. she thought he would be her ticket out. and of course, they lived the rest of their lives in plains. that's where she passed away, i believe. and while other former presidents have magnificent estates all over the world, and have become multimillionaires many times over, the carters lived, you talk about how flaflag , how practical jimmy carter is. they live in modest means and give to charity. i assume she ultimately did warm to plains? that she ultimately found -- >> she didn't like it at first. she really had enjoyed being out in the world. and particularly living in hawaii, for instance. but she reconciled herself to it. when they moved back to plains unusually, that first year they were on such a small budget and there was a drought. the peanut harvest that year was poor. they lived in public housing in plains, georgia. so frugality was something that was a theme of their lives. they got into a routine. she wanted to get away quite frankly from her mother-in-law, miss lillian, a very powerful, documenmineering eccentric sout woman. and she wanted to get away from her own mother who was living alone. her father died when she was 12. she reconciled herself to small town life and got into the building the carter family peanut warehouse business. she became the bookkeeper. the business manager. and you're right. one of your panelists mentioned that jimmy one day decide in the 1962 that he was going to run for state senator. and he hadn't consulted her. he appeared in his sunday best one day and said, she asked him, where are you going? but she welcomed the decision. and while they were terribly shy initially on the campaign trail, she transformed herself into a magnificent speaker. very articulate. she became better, particularly on television, than jimmy ever did. she was poised and articulate and she had short talking points and she was frank and to the point. and she became his biggest asset on the campaign trail. >> yes, i want to elaborate on that public housing story that kai briefly mentioned. that one, it was a necessity for them to live there after they lost the 1980 race. it is also pretty remarkable. they're the only presidential couple to live in public housing, period. and we don't really think about that. there was this big, right after rosalynn carter died, there was a big article in a small southern numb that basically documented this history of civil rights post presidency. and the center piece of this was that as a presidential couple, they lived in public housing. because wasn't just about the money or the finances. but it actually destigmatized public housing at a moment in time when public housing was all but being raked through the coals. it was being decimated. the other thing i would say that is revealed in part by that decision, we've used a lot of adjectives to describe rosalynn carter. we haven't used fiery yet. and i think she's just remarkable in terms of the kind of fire that she brought to the campaign trail, that she brought to the white house, that she brought to her marriage. that she brought to her husband's enemies, as she called them, or opponents. and she's one of the first first ladies post presidency to be very critical of the seceding president administration. and she's very outspoken about the reagan administration and what she saw as the reagan administration's failures. we can talk about where that comes from. a lot of it is from the iran hostage leader situation, iran contra. but it is pretty special that she was able to step out and to say these kinds of things and have the kind of bravery in order to say what was necessary. she felt like the nation needed it. >> it was mainly, as i recall, a lot of what she was doing was criticizing their priorities when it came to how they treated the poor and the rich. a great deal of it anyway. >> yes. it was the end of the focus on human rights. after all, she had taken not only, she had taken a personal interest in encouraging human rights abroad. and she and her husband, president carter, had wanted to end the american tradition of supporting dictators, military dictators, and in comes a different administration with a more realistic view, or a realist view. so when the reagan administration in its effort to combat castro supported communism in central manager, cozied up to military dictatorships, rosalynn carter and jimmy carter both felt this was an undermining of an effort to change the american image and reputation in latin america. i wanted to mention something about the fiery part. after the loss. after 1980. president carter with mrs. carter next to him was asked, aren't you bitter about your loss and she responded, i'll bitter enough for the both of us. >> you talk about the major differences when it comes to policy. just think about the an he can dote that you were saying, how they sent their daughter to public school and how they were frugal. imagine that and then what came next. i may not, the reagans ushered in the '80s and the era of the life styles of the rich and famous. >> on a domestic policy level, too, what was bitter for mrs. carter was what she worked so hard on. the mental health issue and testified for and then a bill was actually signed in 1980, right? and then president reagan and the administration comes in and the allocation for omb was zeroed out for the mental health program. and that was a very, very difficult thing for mrs. carter to accept. something she had worked so hard on. was just now on the precipice of having a chance. and then was zeroed out. fast forward to 1994 when she is with mrs. ford, former first lady betty ford and they're both toefg health care reform. together they had a really wonderful relationship. those two former first ladies. but she testified in the health care reform act for the mental health where mrs. ford testified for support for addiction. >> she did a lot of important work. >> i don't think, we won't hear from former president jimmy carter. so if we can, i want to grab this moment to play some sound from him from a 2005 interview with oprah in which he is recalling his first date with rosalynn carter, and extolling what he saw in her that first moment that they went out when he was 18, or she was 18 and he was 21. if we could roll that quick clip. just a sweet remembrance of their first date. >> who did you go with? rosa smith. what did you think of her? she's the one i'm going to marry. i hadn't approached that subject with rosalynn. >> what was it you knew or felt? >> i can't really quantify it all, describe it in words. i knew that she was quiet, she was extremely intelligent. she was very timid, by the way. beautiful. and there was just something about her that was -- >> you're blushing. >> i can't help it. >> very timid. but she was, kate, not very timid at all. >> not at all. she was the back bone of that presidency. it was because of her that camp david was held at camp david. she thought that was a smart idea. and that's one of the most important accomplishments of the carter presidency. so i love the idea that she was this fierce, feisty, strong woman. and it we saw that in just having a conversation with her, you could tell tha she stood up for what she believed in. it that what happened with the reagans afterwards, as anita was saying, it was so disheartening for her. a lot of work she had done for mental health was undone. and there was a feeling that she wasn't appreciated by the washington elite. she didn't have dinner parties with katherine graham. and they famously got rid of hard liquor at the white house. they sold the sequoia. he didn't want "hail to the chief" played. it was all this folksy southernness. >> he carried his own bag. >> they were outsiders in a certain way. >> let's just take a moment. the hearse pulled up to the united methodist church. if we could take a moment and soak it in. those are the carter grandchildren, i'm told, serving as honor ary pall bearers. ♪ you can see the top left of your screen. president biden, dr. jill biden, standing next to former president clinton. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> in the first row there, you see the first former first ladies, laura bush, hillary clinton, first lady jill biden. here comes former president jimmy carter who has been in hospice care since february. next to his daughter, amy carter. ♪ those are the carters' kids. next to president biden is jack carter, followed by chip carter, then president carter, amy carter, and then i think that's jeff carter at the end. ♪ ♪ ♪ o beautiful for spacious s skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of rain ♪ for purple mountains' majesty above the fruited plain ♪ ♪ america america ♪ ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ ♪ and crown thy good with brotherhood ♪ ♪ from sea to shining sea ♪ ♪ o beautiful ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> please be seated. with the congregation of glenn memorial united methodist church, i welcome you to this space and this hour. as we praise god and give thanks for the life of rosalynn smith carter. we gather also, of course, to surround this family with our love as they mourn the loss of a beloved wife, mother, grandmother, great grandmother. friends, today let us affirm together the faith rosalynn lived so beautifully. death, though real, does not have the last word. and god's love is greater than any foe and the way of service and grace in this world is the way of eternal life. even now. let us pray. almighty god, we step away from the demands of the day to give thanks for the life of your child, rosalynn. we celebrate 96 years of faith and love but we rejoice in moments shared with her, memories cherished now as treasures. in this hour, renew our spirits by your holy spirit, that we like rosalynn might with courage and grace do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly with you throughout our days. in the name of jesus christ we pray, amen . >> maya angelou wrote, when great trees fall, on a distant him, shuder and lions hunker down in tall grasses. elephants lumber after safety. when great trees fall in the forest, small things recall into science, their senses eroded beyond fearful when great souls die, the air around us becomes light, rare, and sterile. we breathe briefly. our eyes are filled with hurtful clarity and our memories suddenly sharpen, examines the words unsaid and promises of walks never taken. but did you know that in isaiah 40:28, it says do you not know and have you not heard the lord is the everlasting god? the creator of the earth. he is not, he will not grow tired or weary in his understanding no one can fathom. he gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. and even youth grow tired and weary and young men stumble and fall. here's where i shout and get happy. for those who hope in the lord will renew their strength. they will soar on wings like eagles. they will run and not grow weary. they will walk and not faint. i'm going to have chip carter come and tell you about a great soul. >> i want to welcome all of you here and thank you for coming to help my family and to mourn with my family. and mostly to celebrate a life well lived. my mother was the glue that held our family together through the ups and downs and thicks and thins of our family's politics. as individuals, she believed in us and took care of us. when i was 14, i supported president johnson for president. and every day, i wore a johnson sticker on my shirt and periodically, i would get beat up and my shirt torn and fbuttos pulled off and my sticker always destroyed. i would walk the block from school down to carter's warehouse and my mother would have a shirt in a drawer already mended, buttons sewn on, and the lbj sticker still applied. years later, she was influential in getting me into rehab for my drug and alcohol addiction. she saved my life. when i started making speeches for dad in his political career, i was so nervous. i also vomited in the waiting room before we went on stage. one day after debating seven other children of offspring of candidates for president, i called may mother and told her how nervous i got. and she told me something that i have used a thousand times since. she said, chip, you can do anything for 20 minutes except hold your breath. when i was in the second grade at plains high school, they had a donkey basketball game in the stadium, in the school building there to raise money for the school. and my mother rode her donkey as fast as it would slowly go, right under the goal. spun around so she was facing its tail. caught the pass and made the winning 2 points. she was my hero that night and she's been my hero ever since. a couple years ago, mom and i were talking. when she said that dad asked her to marry her for the second time, she said yes. but she expected him to provide for her a life of adventure. he told her that it would happen. she told me that she has lived on both coasts and hawaii while he was in the navy and began her family. mom said when it was decided they would leave the navy and move back to plains, that she was upset, and the family story is that they rode in the car from connecticut to plains, georgia. when mom had something to say to dad, she would say, jack would you tell your father -- [ laughter ] when dad ran for office the first time, my mom entered, every time he would go on a campaign trip or during a legislative session, she was will really pleased to be in the office and be the boss. excuse me. she told me that when dad started running for president, that the thing that she enjoyed the most was the people that she met across the country. and that from working in carter's warehouse, she said i was able to speak the languages, prices, and yields and relate to everyday issues in farm families, especially in iowa. she said because of that, she's the one that helped win that election there. then as first lady of the united states, always trying to follow the teaching of jesus, and to do what he taught her to do as a guideline, she said, you will always get criticized by somebody for everything you do. so you might as well do it right. and she and dad were able to make a positive difference in people's lives and that of so many families, too. my parents' 77-year partnership is often talked about. mom was always well informed on the issues of the day. in the white house, mom asked dad so many questions that he finally said that she should attend cabinet meetings. so she did, and caught a lot of flak for that. she was then able to speak with authority on issues across our country and the world. she would often try and often fail to get dad to do what was right politically. when she couldn't change dad's mind, she would repeat to herself, a leader takes people where they want to go. a great leader takes people where they need to go. losing the election in 1980 was devastating to us all. my parents were still young. my mother only 53. and they knew they still had more to contribute. they decided they would become missionaries and spent months trying to decide how to accomplish their goal. finally, they decided as partners to start the carter center which would allow my mother to continue to fight the stigma of mental illness and allow them both to help the poorest of the poor on this earth as jesus had taught them. mom started the rosalynn carter institute for caregivers at georgia southwestern university to train and support those who help others. at the same time, mom and dad continue to support habitat for humanity, and mom continued to support the friendship force. she told me that her adventures had led her to more than 120 countries. she had been fly fishing all over the world. she had met kings and queens, presidents, others in authority. powerful corporate leaders and celebrities. she said the people that she met with, felt the most comfortable with, and the people she enjoyed being with the most were those that lived in absolute abject poverty. the ones without adequate housing, without a proper diet, without access. and she probably had more adventures than anybody else on earth. mom was always fun to be with. halloween before the pandemic, mom showed up at amy's house. amy lives on a street which closes down on halloween and every house is decorated. mom was beautifully dressed as a monarch butterfly. the secret service were dressed casually but perfectly as secret service agents. [ laughter ] she proceeded to go up and down the street with her grand great and great grandchildren and go trick or treating up and down the street. she got back to amy's and was so excited because she had been out so much and nobody had recognized her. after dad was put in hospice and my mother had dementia, my siblings, my wife and i would stay with them so there would always be a family member around. one day my mother was sitting with my wife becky and she was reminiscing on what it was like to go to live in hawaii. and she was talking about learning all the native dances. and she got up from the sofa, pushed her walker away which she couldn't take a step without, and proceeded to do the hula for two or three minutes. she grabbed her walker, turned around, sat back down on the sofa, turned to my wife and said that's how you do it. i will always love my mother. i will cherish how she and dad raised their children. they have given us such a great example of how a couple should relate. let me finish by saying that my mother, rosalynn carter, was the most beautiful woman i've ever met and pretty to look at, too. thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you, chip. next, we'll have the reading of the lord's prayer. would you read it with me, please? our father who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thigh kingdom come, thy will be done. give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil, for thine is the glory and the power forever. amen. ♪ ♪ ♪ blessed assurance jesus is mine ♪ ♪ what a foretaste of glory divine ♪ ♪ heir of salvation ♪ ♪ pour down his spirit washed in his blood ♪ ♪ this is my story ♪ ♪ this is my song ♪ ♪ praising my savior all the day long ♪ ♪ this is my story ♪ ♪ this is my song ♪ ♪ praising my savior all the day long ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this is my song ♪ ♪ praising my savior ♪ ♪ this is my story ♪ ♪ this is my song ♪ ♪ praising my savior all the day long ♪ >> a reading from the book of phillipians, chapter 4 verse 13. i can do all things through christ, who strengthens me . >> president biden, dr. biden, president carter, jack, chip, jeff, amy, very distinguished guests and friends. rosalynn carter was my boss and became my very good friend. she hired me to direct her projects office at the white house and has kept me busy as her volunteer ever since. we shared so many special times together, shopping for beads in a market in ghana, popping in unannounced to a peer support program in america's georgia. bird watching at the carter center. what a remarkable woman she was. wife, mother, business manager, political strategist, diplomat, advocate, author. yet what i remember most about her was her tireless dedication to taking care of others. she was often fond of recalling the time that margaret meade came to visit her in the white house. dr. meade said to her then, "our success as a society and our value as individuals must be measured by the compassion we show for the most vulnerable among us." in many ways dr. meade had captured the very essence of rosalynn carter. the issues that claimed her time and attention, mental health, support for care givers, childhood immunization, problems of the elderly, neglected tropical diseases. even building latrines to prevent the spread of tracoma a blinding eye disease. she brought critical leadership to problems that affected the lives of millions. rosalynn's compassion and empathy for those who are suffering was boundless. her passion for action even more so. i shall never forget the day as first lady she decided to personally visit the refugee camps in thailand where thousands of cambodians lay desperately ill and dying. "i have to do something," she said. rosalynn was determined to help. the doctors in the camps called her the yankee angel because she brought hope where there had been none. as a result of her efforts a broad coalition came together and raised tens of millions of dollars for refugee relief. her tenure as first lady of the united states was just one chapter in a life that was really devoted to caring and doing good for others. with president carter she founded the carter center. as one of the world's foremost humanitarian organizations. she invited me one year to join her on a trip promoting guinea worm eradication in west africa. in a small village in northern ghana she insisted i come meet a little boy being treated in a containment center. "you have to see the worm," she said. "you have to see how much suffering it causes." the alleviation of suffering has been an integral part of rosalynn's life for as long as i've known her. while campaigning for her husband early one morning at a factory gate, a woman covered in cotton dust approached her. "what is your husband going to do as governor of georgia to help my daughter, who is suffering from mental illness?" thus began her more than 50-year career as a mental health advocate. lobbying first her husband, then the united states congress, and finally later the w.h.o. to increase support for mental health. when students at her alma mater, georgia southwestern, documented the isolation, the stress and burnout that afflicted so many caregivers in their community, she lent her support to the creation of the rosalynn carter institute for caregivers. today it is a national advocate for programs to build resilience and strength in families navigating the daunting challenges of caring for loved ones, a challenge that her own family has confronted with grace these last few years. even the plight of the monarch butterfly did not escape rosalynn's attention. threatened by loss of habitat and an alarming decline, the monarch needed an advocate, and who better than rosalynn? she first started with her garden in plains. then she created a butterfly trail across georgia. and finally, she wrote michelle obama that the butterflies needed a garden on the white house grounds. a short time later there was a garden on the south lawn. what a remarkable life she led. born at a time and in a place where segregation was the norm. as a young wife she joined the fight against racial discrimination in her church and her community. raised during an era when opportunities for women were limited at best, she became an ardent advocate for the equal rights amendment. she ensured that women were well represented in the senior ranks of government. and she even successfully lobbied her husband for equal pay for her east wing staff, something for which i shall always be grateful. [ laughter ] married at 18 and the mother of three little boys by the age of 25, she became an invaluable business partner in the peanut warehouse operation. when jimmy carter decided to run for the state senate without consulting her, the last time he ever did that, she still pitched in as a key campaigner and political strategist, a role in which she excelled in the years that followed. she served our country as one of its most activist and accomplished first ladies. her work is defined not only by her work in mental health but also as the multiple roles she played as jimmy carter's personal adviser. personal emissary to the leaders of seven latin american countries, consultant on his most important speeches, lobbyist for key legislative initiatives and spokesperson on controversial policy matters. once, as she departed for iowa just two days after the grain embargo had been announced, she quipped, "i happen to always be the first one out after a major decision or happening, but it's interesting." whether it was the mideast peace negotiations at camp david or planning strategy for the democratic convention in 1980, rosalynn was present and a full participant. she loved her time in washington and was very sad to leave. but she returned to georgia ready to pursue her passion to, as she once said, use my influence to give voice to those who may be powerless and persuade the powerful to listen. as i had the privilege of knowing rosalynn over the years, i was constantly reminded that for her life was truly about helping others and finding joy in the simple act of service. she never sought fame, fortune or accolades for the work that she did, although her accomplishments have been widely recognized and honored. in so many different ways she promoted a more caring society. a number of years ago at the end of an interview with jon stewart, then of "the daily show," where she had lobbied him to pay more attention to fighting the stigma of mental illness, and even in jest offered to award him a rosalynn carter fellowship to improve his reporting skills, he looked at her and said, "mrs. carter, you are truly one of the good people in this world." today we do indeed mourn a remarkable person, one of the truly good people in this world. may those of us who knew and loved her as a friend and colleague honor her life by building on her legacy of caring deeply for the most vulnerable among us. [ applause ] ♪ ♪ morning has broken like the first morning ♪ ♪ blackbird has spoken like the first bird ♪ smoet praise for the singing, praise for the morning ♪ ♪ praise for them springing fresh from the world ♪ ♪ sweet the rains new fall, sunlit from heaven ♪ ♪ like the first dewfall on the first grass ♪ ♪ praise for the sweetness of the wet garden ♪ ♪ sprung in completeness where his feet pass ♪ ♪ mine is the sunlight ♪ ♪ mine is the morning ♪ ♪ born of the one light eden saw play ♪ ♪ praise with elation ♪ ♪ praise every morning ♪ ♪ god's recreation of the new day ♪ >> a reading from the book of psalm chapter 19 verse 14. may these words of my mouth and this meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, lord, my rock and my redeemer. >> president carter, president biden, dr. biden, vice president harris, the second gentleman, president clinton, secretary clinton, mrs. bush, mrs. obama, mrs. trump, distinguished guests and friends. rosalynn carter would be so pleased to see that she brought all of you together on this day. [ applause ] first my deepest condolences to you, president carter, to jack, to chip, to jeff, to amy, and to your families. i am honored that you asked me to participate today. news reporters and the public figures we cover don't always have the smoothest of relationships. given the nature of our different roles, our interactions can be uncomfortable at times. the first time i met mrs. carter it was 1970 when she was campaigning hard for her husband to be elected governor. it was on the tarmac of a small airport somewhere in the middle of georgia. and i sensed a wariness on her part. i was only a cub reporter for an atlanta tv station. so that was understandable. i'm happy to say that the wariness melted away. it may have taken about 40 years for that to happen. [ laughter ] but it had by the time she invited me to attend a luncheon in washington where she was receiving an award for her work on care giving. she knew we have a son with disability and that caregiving is essential in our lives. i know my respect and admiration for her goes back to the very beginning. there was always something genuine about mrs. carter, a groundedness and a quiet self-assurance despite what she later wrote about her early struggles with public speaking. i covered the carters through their time as georgia governor, through the historic and astonishing campaign for the presidency in 1976 through their years in the white house. what we witnessed was a first lady who saw her role as going well beyond the essential warm and welcoming host to being a close and trusted, yes, adviser. in essence an extension of the president himself. a first lady who understood the weight of her words and especially her actions. a first lady who cared deeply about the american people, about how government policies and actions affect their daily lives. a first lady who took on tough assignments, who was in her words determined to be taken seriously and who wasn't afraid of controversy. that started at the very beginning of her time in the white house when as you heard she made big news by sitting in on cabinet meetings. as she put it, there was no way i could discuss things with jimmy in an intelligent way if i didn't. continuing her push for something to be done about mental health, the issue she had adopted as first lady of georgia, she immersed herself in the subject, insisting that ways be found to bring it out of the shadows, to erase the stigma associated with mental illness. she personally lobbied for legislation, and she saw it become law. she launched a childhood immunization initiative that led to the virtual elimination of measles as a public health program problem. just five months into the administration she took on an ambitious diplomatic mission. that two-week trip to the caribbean, central and south america that she described as more than a goodwill trip. she said she wanted to be valuable -- to be valuable in each country, to bring back their concerns to her husband. she had studies his foreign policy intensely, especially on human rights. she took a cram course in spanish. i was one of the reporters who traveled with her on that 12,000-mile journey. i had not studied spanish. and i'll never forget the looks on the faces of some of the latin leaders as they realized that they were dealing with a serious, supremely well-informed and well-briefed representative of the president of the united states. the person closer to him than anyone else. criticism ahead of time that she would be dismissed melted away. she lobbied for other important legislation including one of the earliest efforts to cut the cost of health care, the so-called hospital cost containment bill. mrs. carter was traveling with the president in japan to attend an economic summit when word came from washington that they were a few votes shy including from a senator who was traveling with them on the bullet train to kyoto. it was mrs. carter who spoke to hawaii's senator spark matsunaga, persuaded him to phone in his proxy. the bill passed. and there was the middle east. 13 days of tense talks among president carter, israel's menachem begin and egypt's anwar sadat. mrs. carter was the one who suggested first that they meet at camp david, noting that it was far removed from the pressures and the controversies of washington. president carter said she was a partner in his thinking throughout the negotiations. the camp david accords have survived as one of the very few enduring agreements to come out of the middle east. i last interviewed president and mrs. carter together in plains in july of 2021 as they were celebrating their 75th wedding anniversary. i asked them how they thought president biden was doing early in his term. president carter was very specific on issue after issue. [ laughter ] and quite complimentary of the new president. mrs. carter said simply, "it's a great relief to have him in office." and what a love story. for 77 years they adored each other. they had much in common. intelligence, compassion, curiosity, courage, and apparently they could both be a little stubborn. she often said the most challenging time of their marriage was when they co-authored a book. my connection with president and mrs. carter is more than professional. it was the summer of 1976 when i met had i husband, al hunt, who was then with the "wall street journal," on the plains high school athletic field, where competitive then candidate jimmy carter organized softball games between his campaign staff with a lot of help from the very fit secret service agents. and on the other side the press corps. the press always lost. al and i didn't see each other again until the spring of 1977 after nbc news moved me to washington to cover the white house. you know, if jimmy carter hadn't been elected, we would likely never have gotten married, had three children, and a grandson. so as fate and only 1,683,247 votes would have it, our lives are connected with theirs. when jimmy carter was running for president the first time a reporter asked rosalynn why she was campaigning five days a week 20 hours a day. her answer? it's a labor of love. "bid "besides, i won't have any regrets if he loses because i am doing everything i can possibly do." that to me explains why she did so much, worked so hard throughout her entire life. at the white house and in the many years before and since, championing the rights of the underserved, coming to the aid of the most vulnerable, doing whatever she could to improve the lives of others. so she wouldn't have regrets she hadn't done everything in her power to do. that's who she was. without rosalynn carter i gleechdon't believe there would have been a president carter. she and the two of you set an example for all of us. i agree with my friend jim fallows who wrote "her memory will be a blessing. her influence on the world will be her monument," end quote. because of rosalynn carter, millions of lives are better off. what a gift she left. [ applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ great is thy name ♪ ♪ ♪ thou changest not, thy compassions they fail not ♪ ♪ as thou hast been, thou forever will be ♪ ♪ great is thy faithfulness ♪ ♪ great is thy faithfulness ♪ ♪ morning by morning new mercies i see ♪ ♪ all i have needed thy hand hath provided ♪ ♪ great is thy faithfulness ♪ ♪ lord, unto me ♪ ♪ ♪ pardon for sin and a peace that endureth ♪ ♪ thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide ♪ ♪ strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow ♪ ♪ blessings all mine with 10,000 beside ♪ ♪ great is thy faithfulness ♪ ♪ great is thy faithfulness ♪ ♪ morning by morning new mercies i see ♪ ♪ all i have needed thy hand hath provided ♪ ♪ graeth is thy faithfulness, lord unto me ♪ >> i chose something that is hard to read without crying. so be patient. my mom spent most of her life in love of my dad. their partnership and love story was a defining feature of her life. because he isn't able to speak to you today, i am going to share some of his words about loving and missing her. this is from a letter he wrote 75 years ago while he was serving in the navy. "my darling, every time i have ever been away from you i've been thrilled when i returned to discover just how wonderful you are. while i am away i try to convince myself that you really are not, could not be as sweet and beautiful as i remember. but when i see you, i fall in love with you all over again. does that seem strange to you? it doesn't to me. good-bye, darling. until tomorrow. jimmy." [ applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ what wondrous love is this is this that caused the lord of bliss ♪ ♪ to bear the dreadful curse for my soul, for my soul ♪ ♪ to bear the dreadful curse for my soul ♪ ♪ when i was sinking down ♪ ♪ sinking down ♪ ♪ sinking down ♪ ♪ when i was sinking down ♪ ♪ o my soul ♪ ♪ when i was sinking down ♪ ♪ ♪ beneath god's righteous frown ♪ ♪ christ laid aside his crown for my soul, for my soul ♪ ♪ christ laid aside his crown for my soul ♪ ♪ to god and to the lamb i will sing, i will sing ♪ ♪ to god to the lamb i will sing ♪ ♪ to god and to the lamb who is great i am ♪ ♪ while millions join the theme ♪ ♪ i will sing, i will sing ♪ ♪ i will sing ♪ ♪ while millions join the theme i will sing ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and when from death i'm free i'll sing on ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ what wondrous love is this ♪ ♪ o my soul ♪ ♪ o my soul ♪ ♪ what wondrous love is this ♪ ♪ o my soul ♪ ♪ i'll sing on ♪ ♪ and through eternity ♪ ♪ i'll sing on ♪ >> a reading from the book of galatians chapter 5 verses 13 to 14. "seven one another humably in love for the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command. love your neighbor as yourself." >> thank you all for being here. as you can see from the service, music was so important to my grandmother, and it's been just beautiful. so thank you. governor and first lady kemp, thank you. senators warnock and ossoff, thank you. congresspeople, mayor dickens, thank you all. and again, a special thank you, secretary clinton, mrs. bush, mrs. obama, mrs. trump and dr. biden. thank you all for coming and acknowledging this remarkable sisterhood that you share with my grandmother. and thank you all for your leadership that you provided for our country and the world. secretary clinton and dr. biden, we also welcome your lovely husbands. [ laughter ] [ applause ] i mean -- this is a difficult day for my family. but we have been so enormously gratified by the love and support that we have felt from across the world. so thank you so much. and as reverend warnock told me, my grandmother doesn't need a eulogy. her life was a sermon. and it was a mighty testament to the power of faith and to the power of a deep and determined love. and she lived this public love story that we all know of, that has inspired the world including in these last days. and i think of all the things she accomplished her most viral moment was when they were at a baseball game and the braves put them on the kiss cam. and just like today, i mean, people were crying at the braves game. you know? but we heard about it for years. it's amazing. but in my family we all experienced those more private love stories. and she was my grandmother first. and she was like everyone else's grandmother in a lot of ways. almost all of her recipes call for mayonnaise, for example. we all got cards from her on our birthdays. $20 bill in it. when i was 45, $20 bill. and she was so down to earth, y'all. it was amazing. and one of the stories we've been talking about in my family these last few days is we were on a family trip and we were on a flight on delta from here to somewhere and we were all sitting in the back of the airplane together and it took off and we looked over, my grandmother took out this tupperware of pimento cheese and this loaf of bread and she just started making sandwiches. [ laughter ] and she gave it to all of us grandkids and then she started giving them to other people on the plane. and people were sitting there like rosalynn carter just made me this sandwich. you know? [ laughter ] they couldn't believe it. but she loved people. and she was a cool grandma. she was cool. like she did tai chi with a sword. and if you want to see a 5-year-old boy be excited, they would come back, dad, you know mom carter has a sword, you know? she once told me about this trip, paw-paw, that y'all took to havana in the '50s. she said y'all went down there for the night and you didn't get a hotel room. and i said what'd you do? she looked at me like, we danced. and we slept on the plane. they danced, didn't they? she was a rock for our family. and that's true. but in many ways she was more, as chip said, an adventurer. a voyager, a mountain climber. she learned to ski in her 60s and then skied for 25 more years. as chip said, she fished trout streams from georgia to wyoming and from venezuela to siberia, visited 120 countries, climbed mount kilimanjaro and mount fuji and summited peaks in bolivia and other places. and i know that she went to the everest base camp in nepal. and i can guarantee you that she was looking up at that thing and thinking, if they would just let me. [ laughter ] and based on what she did i think she could have done it. she was born just a few years after women got the right to vote, in this small town in the south where people were still plowing their fields behind mules. but she was made for these long journeys and she was made to summit these mountains. as they said before, when she started in politics she'd never talked to a group of people bigger than her sunday school class. and then she elected her governor and president. she shaped our national policies. she faced down dictators herself on issues of human rights. she built the carter center from an idea into a powerhouse. human rights. and as the chair of that board i've watched her do it. and it's because she poured out her love. all over the world and especially, as kathy said, the end of the road. her 122 countries included liberia and mali and sudan. and it was natural for her to open up her heart to those people not with pity but as partners. and she knew in those communities and recognized that ancient steel from rural women who carried their children from their communities on their backs. whether they're from a 600-person town in south georgia or south sudan. as the song says, she knew what comes back when you give your love away. and for my grandmother what came back was this unshakeable strength and this powerful faith and not just an abiding love but a fierce, determined adventurous love that sustained her on all of these long journeys. journeys like kathy mentioned of her guinea worm eradication, which has taken almost 40 years. but the carter center's unwavering efforts and her powerful partners in these tiny villages took a disease that affected 3.5 million people every year in the poorest parts of the world, and this year there won't be millions of cases, paw-paw. this year we've had seven total cases. and we're in the last mile because she could see far. and she kept going, was not afraid of these long journeys. her advocacy for mental health was a 50-year climb that is as remarkable as any other and has been mentioned already. but if you imagine just how far our society has come in the last five years on issues of mental health and you think that she decided in 1970 to tackle the ancient stigma associated with mental illness, it is remarkable how far she could see and how far she was willing to walk. and that effort changed lives and it saved lives including in my own family. she was made for these long journeys. the rosalynn carter institute helps caregivers because you can't journey alone. even the rosalynn carter butterfly trail goes 3,000 gardens from mexico to canada, to help monarch butterflies on their journeys. john lewis once said that in all of his marches he only really learned one thing. don't let them turn you around. that was my grandmother to a t. one of my last memories of her was in a hospital. we were there for my grandfather, but she had her own physical limitations that made it hard for her to walk. she had to practice. she was ready to go for one of these walks and she picked up this cane, and i looked at the cane. she looked at me and she said, "you know it's not a cane." and i said -- she said, "it's a trekking pole." she said, "it's the exact same kind those women use when they go to the south pole." i watched her walk down that hall with that trekking pole, and i followed her. and i just pray that we never lose sight of that path. amen and thank you. [ applause ] ♪ imagine there's no heaven ♪ ♪ it's easy if you try ♪ ♪ no hell below us ♪ ♪ above us only sky ♪ ♪ imagine all the people ♪ ♪ living for today ♪ ♪ ooh ♪ ♪ imagine there's no countries ♪ ♪ it isn't hard to do ♪ ♪ nothing to kill or die for ♪ ♪ and no religion too ♪ ♪ imagine all the people ♪ ♪ living life in peace ♪ ♪ you, you may say i'm a dreamer ♪ ♪ but i'm not the only one ♪ ♪ ooh ♪ ♪ i hope someday you'll join us ♪ ♪ and the world will be as one ♪ ♪ imagine no possessions ♪ ♪ i wonder if you can ♪ ♪ no need for greed or hunger ♪ ♪ a brotherhood of man ♪ ♪ imagine all the people ♪ ♪ sharing all the world ♪ ♪ you, you may say i'm a dreamer ♪ ♪ but i'm not the only one ♪ ♪ i hope someday you'll join us ♪ ♪ and the world will live as one ♪ [ applause ] >> a reading from the gospel of matthew chapter 5 verses 6 through 8. blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled. blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy. blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see god. ♪ >> will you stand? ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ and let there begin with me ♪ ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ the peace that was meant to be ♪ ♪ with god as our father ♪ ♪ brothers all are we ♪ ♪ let me walk with my brother ♪ ♪ in perfect harmony ♪ ♪ let peace begin with me ♪ ♪ let this be the moment now ♪ ♪ with every step i take ♪ ♪ let this be my solemn vow ♪ ♪ to take each moment ♪ ♪ and live each moment ♪ ♪ with peace eternally ♪ ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ and let it begin with me ♪ ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ and let it begin with me ♪ ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ the peace that was meant to be ♪ ♪ with god as our father ♪ ♪ brothers all are we ♪ ♪ let me walk with my brother ♪ ♪ in perfect harmony ♪ ♪ let peace begin with me ♪ ♪ let this be the moment now ♪ ♪ with every step i take ♪ ♪ let this be my solemn vow ♪ ♪ to take each moment ♪ ♪ and live each moment ♪ ♪ with peace eternally ♪ ♪ let there be peace on earth ♪ ♪ and let it begin with me ♪ >> you may be seated. i also want to remind you that i'm going to give you some directions for the house and that if you violate those directions some of the first ladies' bodyguards might just -- you got my message. remain seated when the procession starts out out of respect for the family. you've heard everything about this great soul. you heard that she was from plains, georgia. you heard the fact that she loved and she had compassion even for a butterfly. you heard the fact how she loved her grandchildren and oh, how she loved j.c., jimmy carter. i also have to tell you that she loved j.c., jesus christ. and i believe the reason why she did so much of the things she did, because she read in spanish and english that faith without works is dead being alone. so when she read the word of god it went to her head and then it got in her heart. and somewhere in the kingdom of god, ambassador young, she decided to put her hands to the things of god. from her head to her heart to her hands. and mr. president, she made it a habit. from her head to her heart to her hands. and she made it a habit. if you love our first lady, who was global, make it a habit. take your passion and make it a habit. link your passion up with compassion. and then there will be peace. and then there would be love. and then we'll have a house united, not divided. she would say thank you to all the first ladies that came and stopped all the traffic in georgia and atlanta. [ laughter ] mr. president, she'd say thank you the time you came down to visit president jimmy carter and sat in the living room, you and your beautiful bride. she would say thanks to all of you. governor, she would say thank y you. but i want to tell you something. to all the staff she would say thank you. but there's somebody in here that's very important and only them are going to get what i'm about to say. there are some folks that make all this possible. their sole mission is to make sure you get home safe. for 46 years the men and women of the secret service has made sure that she got home safe. for 46 years they left their families and traveled with rosalynn to make sure, garth, that she got home safe. for 46 years they gave themselves. jason, they had ice cream. peanut butter ice cream. they did all the things that she did. for 46 years they made sure she got home safe. i want to tell each and every one of them, she would tell you thank you. you got me home safe. [ applause ] oftentimes, mr. president, we don't acknowledge those who keep us safe. rosalynn carter's in heaven, and she did the work of the lord in the kingdom all around the world. and don and all the directors for 46 years got her and her family home safe. and i say thank each and every one of you. those that are standing post and those that are listening on their radios right now, thank you. and she loves you and ain't nothing you can do about it. we're going to have the benediction prayer. they're going to sing. and i remind you, please, sir, please ma'am, the bible says i beseech you, governor, don't move. father, in the name of jesus, thank you for this glorious celebration of this wonderful great soul that has fallen in our midst, but she is not dead, she's alive in each and every one of us. she's alive in 122 countries. she's alive in every hall in our government. she's alive in every non-profit in this nation and around the world. she's alive. she's resting in the arms of jesus. we ask that you comfort each and every soul here today as her sons and daughters of the secret service take her back home to plains. in jesus' name i pray. amen . ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ amen amen a men amen a men amen ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ celebration of the life and legacy of rosalynn smith carter, 1927 to 2023. held today at glen memorial church at emory university. attended by her loving husband of 7

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