11 more children and women released today, but the numbers, they don't begin to tell the story. tonight, in the second hour of laura coates live. ♪ ♪ ♪ now, for every one of the 11 women and children released today, there are loved ones who have been suffering along with them. who know whether that will see their family members again. for every one of those 11 people who are experiencing their first day of freedom, from october 7th, there are others being held hostage. just think of it, all the kids released today by hamas still have fathers in captivity. for seven weeks we have all been waiting. we've talked to mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, while so many of their loved ones are still unaccounted for there are others who, tonight, their prayers have been answered. remember -- who turned 12 in captivity along with a 16-year-old sister, sir? i talked to their mother had not just three weeks after they were taken. >> you can imagine, you know, it was just celebrating his birthday. in captivity in gaza, celebrating. >> reporter: now he and his sister, is, are free. but their father is believed to still be in gaza and being held hostage. there are so many others, we will talk to the mother of a lot of, well who's abducted from a prom shelter at the rate 400 people were killed. he's a 22-year-old pianist who loved music. this is him playing a piece called dimension, composed by -- >> we're learning more tonight about the conditions the hostages injured while held captive by hamas. some -- rice and beans, which they would try to avoid eating so they wouldn't get sick. can you imagine being so hungry but still afraid to eat anything? living in darkness and knowing nothing about what was going on above ground? but with the truth going on for two more days, they'll be some 20 more reunions, hopefully. nine year old emily, you see her, she was initially believed to be killed by hamas militants reuniting with her father and his arms while 13 year old rotem reunited with her uncle after both were released by hamas. like her reunited with her daughters following the release. the only american hostage release so far, abigail beaten, the four-year-old american dual citizen abducted by hamas on october 7th. look at her smile. this beautiful little girl turned four in captivity. and she can't yet know what happened to her family, our mother and father both killed. her father was killed while he was holding her. imagine what she is thinking, a four-year-old held captive for seven weeks. and now she is free, but will she ever feel safe again? what about the others? what does the road ahead look like for them? joining me now -- her 22-year-old son was abducted by hamas and she is not heard from him since october 7th. thank you so much for being with us, i cannot imagine what you are going through and what these weeks have been like for you and your heart. but i do want to play this video of your son v. intaking by hamas. the last time that you even saw video confirming that he was all right. i have to warn everyone it is extremely graphic to watch, josie. i can only imagine what it is like as a mother to view it. do you know,. sitting here tonight, anything else about his condition? >> no, i don't know anything about him. the last time i heard from him was at 8:00 on the 7th of october. 8:00 in the morning, when he was taken. i have no idea, i haven't heard from him since. i don't know how he is, where he is. i'm still waiting to be back with him, in his home, with me and his family. but we have nothing. we're obviously worried. his sister and his brother, also, feeling that they are hopeless in finding him and knowing where he is right now. he's 22 years old, but he certainly is your baby. i know how i think about even my 11 year old is still a baby to me and your baby, he was hiding in a bomb shelter before being abducted. he was with three friends. can you tell us what happened that day? what do you know about what happened that day? >> i know a lot of what happened that day because of his friend who was with him and survived this. so he got to this bomb shelter because he actually got to the party at 5:30 in the morning, and by six they started to hear rockets falling down. so they had to find bomb shoulder to get cover. they drove and they found the nearest bomb shelter in israel, and they went and got inside. he was there with four of his other friends, in this bomb shelter. there are 30 some people in that bomb shelter and you have to understand that this bomb shelter is only capable to have ten people but there are more than 30. so i think about 20 minutes after they got there, thinking everything is okay. they were talking to each other and everything was fine. and then, they started hearing things. arabic, and suddenly hamas came in and started to throw 12 grenades into the bomb shelter. so they were throwing grenades into the bomb shelter and this beautiful man who tried to save everybody, his name was unfair, he was murdered, trying to throw grenades outside. so he was taking these grenades in his hand and throwing them. what i heard is that my son took one or two ended the same because he was near him at this time. so he was trying to help him. one grenade exploded inside the bomb shelter injuring many, they died instantly because he was the one holding the grenade, we don't know, but he died. he was killed that day. and then the hamas went inside and took my son. that is what you're saying, he took my son and two others. he took hersh goldberg, he's an american citizen. he has his hand amputated. so, hersh, he's not my son's friend but i know him because of this. he also was taken. with my son. that was the last time i heard from him. his friend, two of his friends were killed that day because what happened was after hamas took my son and these two others they went inside and started to kill everyone. so only seven survived. i'm austin no seven survived because there were so many people killed. they started to go on top of each other, each one was killed. and the people underneath that survived, somehow, they played dead. so one of them was my son's friend who played dead and waited six hours with the others, hoping that somebody would come. hoping that something would happen. >> reporter: he waited six hours, here you are waiting seven weeks. to hear some words about your son and you haven't heard anything yet, yet we are waiting, we're waiting for the list to come out day in and day out. we're waiting here, you, know in the safety of a studio and you're waiting as a mother, trying to figure out where your son is. i desperately hope that you get that word, idit. the thank you so much for joining us tonight and sharing with the bravery and heroism and about the reality of what you and so many others are facing tonight. >> thank you. it is important to say this, i hope that we will get help and somebody will come and tell us that he is alive and he'll come back to us, it is very important for us. thank you for you, laura, for doing this. and understanding what we are going through in israel and what the kidnapped families are going through. it is very important, because this is real. it is not fake news, we need you for this. thank you. >> reporter: thank, you we hope to hear him playing beautiful music once again. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in now shapiro berman, a psychoanalyst and expert in trauma, and also a professor at hebrew inverse. the thank you so much for joining us. it is so hard for so many people to wrap their minds around even the stories that are coming out of what so many people injured. we have yet to scratch the surface, as you can imagine, of what else has taken place. we've been watching these videos of helicopters, of the fans bringing hostages to hospitals. how are doctors getting ready to receive these hostages. of course, we've got the physical, we've got the mental, that's gonna come along with it. >> hello, good morning. first of all, it is important to say, again, that the question so they have no experience teaching how -- children held as hostages. so many women, or so many men. so what we have been doing here in israel, is we are doing every piece of article that has ever been published. i think the medical examinations are probably a little bit easier to figure out. the physicians probably know what they need to track, they're doing blood test and all that kind of stuff and trying to figure out what is the short term effect of the captivity and what will be the long term effects, will need to find out. the mental space is probably the more difficult issue because those people were taken hostages, they have all witnessed the most horrific atrocities before they were taken and kidnapped. they were all seen other people being murdered, very often their own parents or their own siblings. and then they were taking away to a place that we consider to be one of the most dangerous places, a place for us. and they were held underground, overcrowded, often without food. very, very open without it least one of the parents and many of the children -- well you -- i couldn't see the picture, i could to see the voices and i could literally feel how my heart is broken again because i've spent a lot of hours with people who survived the massacre and with families of those who were kidnapped, and still, when i want to really amount to mother going through -- sorry, yes? >> i was going to say i share that level of empathy with you. yet, neither of us can imagine just the depth of what this must be like. i am so glad that you broke this down in terms of the trauma of what happened on october 7th, the trauma of what was injured since october 7th. then the trauma of coming out of captivity after being in a news vacuum in darkness,, figuratively and literally, i know we're talking about the different demographics involved. we know that one of the hostages is on a ventilator, it's in critical condition. she's in her 80s, by the, way and her body temperature, when she was admit, it was around 83 degrees. talk to me about the age of an eight-year-old entering all of what we know so far. >> it's almost impossible to imagine. on the one hand these people are extremely strong, but they are extremely strong in terms of surviving this trauma and surviving the trauma and being able to lead a life, a good life. and i think that what we are seeing of the first few days is just the tip of the iceberg. the probably so happy to be reunited with their families, or be the one that survived because almost all of them are coming back to a reality in which one of their family members of the dearest and nearest has been murdered. but the first few days are probably happy. they feel safe, at last, the trauma will surface in days or months. -- i'm being realistic that it will be extremely difficult for those people to ever feel safe again. if you can be snatched away from your bed as a baby, as an 84-year-old, woman if you can be walked down to gaza barefoot, wounded after even shot, if you can be held without food, scared for your life. some of the people came out said they were actually thinking that they were being taken out to be executed, not to be freed. i'm glad for honestly, frankly, and struck. now, and we have news tonight about the now been released from the hospital. and we're we're learning new details. and about the moment to release the suspect was now accused of shooting three palestinian college students. who's visiting vermont on the holiday break. police charged jason eaten, with the counts of second degree murder. police say that when he approached ethan he said, quote, i've been waiting for you. unquote. the doj is now investigating whether this attack was a hate crime. and tonight at least one positive development that one of the three students have been released from the hospital. joining me now is elizabeth price, the mother of one of the young men. elizabeth, thank you so much for joining i am just so sorry to meet you under these circumstances. i mean just saturday night, your son was just walking home before dinner. and now this has happened. making the way to the states, i believe he is stable, have you been able to speak with him? i'll see doing? >> yes i've spoken with him several times. his spirits are high. he's a resilient young man. and he's trying to keep everyone spirits up by joking. and just trying to be as calm as possible. i think he's approaching, he's understanding the very long road that he has in front of him. he has another month in the hospital. and then several months of physical therapy. but currently, the doctor said that he's lost function of both of his likes. >> how is the prognosis. >> the prognosis is bad he won't regain it. we are determined to work with him and to give him the best possible care that we can. i believe that he has the determination, occurrence, to regain his legs movement. but the doctors currently say that it is not possible. >> elizabeth i can't imagine you on your way in the stage trying to get to your son. you're hearing this news. it is coming so quickly. how are you handling all of it tonight? . >> it's early morning, here i woke up two hours, kind of on the dot of 48 hours when i got a telephone call at 2:30 in the morning. and i want to be there with him. i want to take care of him as a mother. i just want to be there, to reassure him and to just give him the comfort he needs as he deals with this transition in his life. my mother, and my brother on the ground while he was visiting his mother and they've been instrumental from the very beginning can for the boys, and it's made a big difference. i know that after that he texted my mother and my mother was there at the hospital and it's made a big difference. so it's easier for us knowing that we're going to supplement the care that he's already giving and not to rescue him from amid strangers. >> what did he tell you about what happened that evening? >> well they had just finished -- my eight year old nephew's birthday party, and the three of them decided that they would go around the block they like to walk around the neighborhood and each of the other boys have been to my mother's house twice, and he's been visiting burlington for about ten years. so he knows the community, very, very well and so he was hosting them on a walk and they were walking down about two blocks for my mother's house and a man came out of the building and approach them and allowed him to have space on the sidewalk. he pulled out a gun and without saying anything shot them. hisham fell to the ground. and in fact he said he suddenly found himself on the ground. when his friends suffered chest rooms and -- who thought his friends had been killed escape to try and get help. hisham word that the shooter stayed over them for a shorter period, and then left so hisham that the man was going to continue to shoot them, to kill them. and then hisham call 9-1-1 and the empty came. >> your son was to one to even call, and to have that knowledge to just do that, and to just be so afraid as. well do you believe that you know why he did this? does hisham think he knows? >> i think hisham have experienced a lot of harassment in recent months. and a lot of toxic narratives around who they are as palestinians they're both palestinian citizens he is here as a palestinian citizen and he would be recognized as a person and supported in his historical experiences that we support as part of the palestinians. and the mainstream media and pride level government officials - have called for a really brutal act against the palestinians from gaza. and they have stood by or as the one and 200 palestinians who have been killed. and the equivalence of the palestinians in gaza are million people in proportion to the u.s. population. so i haven't asked them about this specifically but in this context. which is very toxic towards palestinians muslims and arabs in a state where people are bothered by others very easily it is easy to make a link between the actions that criticize palestinians in generals and one that uses a gun to express their opinions and we are still waiting for the details of the investigation. i was really impressed with the burlington police. they are moving resources for the investigation for this. -- and i trust that we will get information as it comes out but this is a dangerous time in america, if you are associated with a group that is involved in these conflicts and there's too much hate speech against all sides. and in that toxic context people take action on their own and take consequences. >> elizabeth price, i'm completely in awe of your clarity and it's very clear to me that you are a mother who's determined to get to her child and hope this does not happen to anyone else's child as well. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> well there has been a lot of polls raising alarm bells for democrats. as president biden at risk of losing key groups who supported him? back in 2020? anton is here to b break it dodn fofor us, next. > democrats are banking on a youth vote for president biden to be reelected to the oval office. but a number of public polls show that young voters, they're turning on biden. in, fact according to a cnn poll. the president trailed donald trump by one percentage point. what seemingly is hurting him the most, to mark young voters is the israel-hamas war. let's break down the numbers with senior data reporter harry enten. harry, so good to see you i'm really interested in this because you see a lot of the polling. but young voters as you all know played a very critical role in helping elect president biden back in 2020. but now he's seeing quite the dramatic drop in their support. so what exactly do the polls show? >> yes laura. i mean, take a look at the final 2020 polls. it's among 18 to 40 year old voters. joe biden citing donald trump amongst them by 21 points. take a look. you were mentioning those polls in 2023. i took an average of them. among 18 to 43 year old. and now biden still leads. but is leading, here, it's just three percentage points. so, a massive drop in the client, why exactly it's happening? we're not sure. but, it's clear across pretty much all of the calls. that although biden has a very small advantage, it is way down from where it was. just a cycle about. >> and we're less than a year away, of, course from the election. i wonder, what did the polls show among black voters specifically? >> you know, another pivotal part of the democratic base. biden versus trump, large among black voters. those final 2020 votes, joe biden was leading among voters by 73 points. he has a substantial lead amongst them. but, look again, the margin is way down. it's down to just 47 points. that would be the worst margin for democratic -- since basically the 1960 election. and of course, where jfk defeated nixon. >> is that right? well, look there were a lot of reports as well of trump doing better with hispanic voters in 2020. then of course in 2016. what does that trend look like? >> again, fitting the mold of what we've seen so far the final 2020 polls joe biden leading among hispanic voters. and he still leads. but that lead is down to just two percentage points. this would be historic learned we mentioned african american voters and you look among hispanic voters, frankly, that i've ever seen i -- we have to wait and see but the fact is that we're seeing a historic and that's part of the reason why that joe biden is currently trailing donald trump in the polls. so is it joe biden specifically? or another democrat? how would they do in terms of comparison to trump in this margin? >> yes, so look. we've seen that joe biden's doing poorly against democratic. but i want you to take a look among all registered voters. look at a fox news poll. what do you see is that joe biden trails donald trump by four percentage points. but do any of the democratic's really do any better? no. not really. trump by two. trump by four. trump by five. it doesn't seem to really matter who you face off against donald trump. trump leads amongst any of the democrats. >> and by the way, only one is a running mate. the rest have been running for office right now. and so, the generic democrat, so to speak. very fascinating. harry enten, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> let's get some more perspective from -- and cnn political commentator and democratic maria cardona. maria, let me begin with you here. because the youth vote, as you, know so important. these candidates more broadly, how much does this have to do with the reaction to the israel-hamas war for biden? >> i think that's part of it but i think what we've seen is we were talking about this in the green room people were in the general malaise. and any young people specifically i think they expected a lot from the president. they don't get what they wanted. but, it's a year out. and let's also acknowledge that all of the mobilization, all of the energy have been happening on the republican side. they're the ones having a crazy primary. they're the ones having a 90 race for speaker. all of them are on the republican side. they are ready, they are mobilized, they are energized. we still have a lot of time to go and this campaign is doing everything, they're taking nothing for granted. they say that even if you show me a poll for joe biden's 20 points ahead they need to run like they're 20 points behind. and that's the only way they win. he has a lot to run on. he could speak to young people, look, i tried to cancel your student loans. republicans, donald trump, give me another four years to finish the job. give me an expanded democratic senate, give me a democratic house and i will deliver this to you. what will donald trump do? he wants to get elected to finish the job, to finish the job of destroying our democracy and taking away all of the right. the mobilization, can you agree with what she's talking about because republicans have been this mobilized, and that the ground operation ahead maybe of what democrats had to do. >> i mean, joe biden has had an opportunity to accomplish some of these things -- whether it's attempting to forgive and billions of them will not enough to impact certain groups particularly for young americans. i think for most millennials, some of the gen zers we have lived through financial hardship and many of us are starting families later. most cannot afford to buy a home. many can't afford to barely pay bucks didn't loans. and those who do like college don't usually finish, because they can't afford. it so you look at all of those variables. and younger voters, it's not enough to just say give me four, years i'm gonna address. it's funny how you're going to address it because we've heard this message before, and they always fall on -- to be quite frank. >> but why is it losing the black vote, do you think? also by the way, you saw those numbers from harry enten. >> look, i think he's losing the black vote because black people, so to speak they give you 95% of our support and they're getting the bear minimum for it. there's not a single group who is more loyal than black women and followed by blackmon. and while you see some movement, here and there, it's not proportionate in terms of our overall support for the democratic party. that's not to say that african americans have out the support on. trump that's not what i'm saying at a laura. but what i am saying, is that the democratic party wants to continue to receive the support for black votes, particularly young voters they have to be real deliverables. tangibles that people can fill and say, okay, this is what i'm getting in exchange for my vote. and they're not seeing that. >> you know what the good news is, lord there has been tangible deliverables. and that's what this campaign is going to be doing in the coming months. telling all of these voters exactly what this president, and kamala harris has delivered. you look at focus group. to look at all of these polls, when you're in a group of these voters and they have not heard of what this president has done, they hear what he has done. all of the programs that he has passed are incredibly popular. the numbers. flip, so what this campaign is going to be doing, it already started to is invest record amounts of money in the messaging, the mobilizing, and the ground to make sure that all of this messaging works. i mean this president has historic accomplishments on the economy. not everybody is feeling him. he's going to continue to do it. on the latino voters, they are going to make sure that they message this president yet the economic piece but also that if donald trump gets four more years in the white house they're going to round up all of the undocumented immigrants which every single latino somebody who is, are part of the family. they're gonna put them in, camp stoneman a b mass deportations and he's going to be more draconian than he ever has been. , and they are going to make sure that the message to the american people as this man is a next essential threat. >> quickly, when i go to my hometown, and i talk to people that i grew up with, just regular, ones that the folks here in d.c. in the circle -- >> thank you very much. >> they don't feel that their lives have improved. when i talk to members of my family, in the distance, they all, ask what are you guys doing in washington? we continue to support these guys. i am still struggling to make the birmingham and i'm still struggling to make sure that my kids have a better future with the current president that i have. and people don't see. that they don't realize it. there's a live message, and, democrats you better get your stuff in order or joe biden will not win in 2024. >> there's so much more to talk about, and of course we're less than a year away. thank you so much. i will point, out, again this regular black women. thank you so much. ahead, natalie portman's message to young people. be careful about being a shot -- she, said she is lucky she wasn't harmed. my next guest has a story about working in hollywood at a very yoyoung age. alisonon s stoner joinins me ne. > ♪ ♪ ♪ ,. i would not encouraging people to go into this, i feel like it was sort of, i don't mean ever, i mean as children. i feel like it was almost an accident, of luck that i was not harmed. >> i want to bring someone who you've probably seen on the small and big screen. >> word of advice, you want to be friends with tess, don't be. >> can i be photoshopped in? >> if there is being photoshopped in. >> alison stoner joins me now, they are the host of deer hollywood podcast. alison, thank you so much for joining me tonight. natalie portman is the latest actor to speak out about the experience of child actors, in particular. by her account she was left unscathed, but that has not been your story. >> thank you for having, me i appreciate natalie raising awareness about the topic. i started performing at three and hollywood agents around the age of six insisted i pursue professionally. my family had no background in entertainment, or resources to understand the actual risks and difficult processes and long term consequences of the decision. so, after 200 films and shows, behind the scenes i developed severe health issues that lead to hospitalization, i experienced financial exploitation that led to an account with zero dollars in, it six years old i knew myself not as a human but as a commercial product for consumption. so, on deer hollywood we are unpacking this toddler to train wreck pipeline we see this child stars. >> since three years old, it's unbelievable to think about being in the business. a lot of people will look at the so-called business and they think to themselves i can't feel sorry for this person, look at the fame, money they're making. and you won't be sympathetic to you as a real human being. how do you make people understand that you are not just a commodity? >> absolutely, yes, why should we care particularly admits to so many overlapping and national global crises that deserve our attention. you, know this is an era of deeply reckoning with our systems and i want to share the rest of the untold story. so, while child stars usually are highlighted in the media for grandiose lifestyles and maybe reckless and entitle behavior, it is actually only about 3% of the reality. behind the scenes there is an entire industry ecosystem of child laborers that involves exploitation, abuse, traumatizing experiences that lead to mental illness. substance abuse and, in some cases, dying by suicide. so our focus here is on exposing the truth and building safer places for children and asking larger societal, ethical questions around how we ought to approach children participating in media. >> so who does it come down to? obviously there are lot of players involved in the overall machine, some would look at this and say a child actor, it is all on the parent. but we're talking about a larger ecosystem, who is a part of the protection universe? >> i'm so glad you asked and i'm so glad that you spoke to the holistic and integrative reproach. it includes supporting at the personal and familial levels, but also reforming actual industry protocol and passing legislation to protect children. fortunately, my team and some other organizations are designing these clear action plans. we have some tool kits that are designed with therapists that can equip people with tools to managed industry pursuit. this can be given to agencies, acting schools, and recruitment programs, but onset we also need mental health practitioners to support the cast and crew and legislation. did you know 17 states still don't have child labor laws to protect entertainers? so in some cases the child onset is actually the most vulnerable and least protected person. >> that is really shocking to think about those numbers, i'm so glad that you have raised awareness on this issue. i keep going back to just how young you really were and how many others are out there right now who might not realize the underbelly of what you're talking about, and maybe how to course correct. really nice talking to you, thank you so much for joining us. we'll bebe right back. >> no, your eyes are not deceiving you. that is a police chase of a fork lift in ann arbor, michigan. that is not even half of it. the forklift was allegedly stolen by 12-year-old and the pursuit went on for more than an hour. thankfully no one was hurt, ending with a boy eventually pulled over and was taken into custody. the forklift who is taken from a middle school where was left unlocked with the keys hidden inside. thanks for watching, our live coverage continues in just a fall front. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our 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