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we are back monitoring the fragile truce in gaza. you are watching "cnn news central." i'm briana keilar in washington with wolf blitzer in tel aviv. another hostage release is under way as we speak. the idf says the latest group of women and children freed by hamas is with the red cross, and it's en route to israel after which more palestinian prisoners and detainees will be released from israeli custody. this is the fourth day of these exch exchanges. and now israel and hamas have agreed to extend this arrangement for two more days. wolf? >> very critical developments. very important developments, indeed. it's a critical two days right now for the families of the remaining 198 hostages. and for the residents of gaza who have seen a surge of badly needed aid enter during this entire temporary pause. president biden just released a statement on the extension thanking the leaders of israel, qatar, and egypt for getting it all done. cnn's oren liebermann is with me in tel aviv, we're watching this unfold. update our viewers where things stand right now. >> reporter: today wasn't nearly as bumpy as we have seen over the course of the past several days. everything happened a bit later, there was a delay on all of this coming through because of a disagreement on the list of hostages. but crucially we've now heard from the israeli military that 11 hostages are now in the hands of the red cross. they say they got that information from the red cross, and that means the transfer of this last group of prisoners in the initial 50 is beginning to be complete here. they have gone from hamas custody into the hands of the red cross and will soon be with the idf. we don't know what crossings they're coming through at this point, but that's less significant right now. what's important is that the process has begun, and they are making their way to the idf, to israel, and then they'll be transferred to their hospitals and to families where the reunions can begin. there's also a bigger picture of significant meaning here. one of the senior policy advisers to prime minister benjamin netanyahu told us that the extension of the truce, another two days, another 48 hours, would only happen once the transfer had been complete. it's not complete yet. but it's moving that direction barring any unforeseen circumstances. that means a number of things. first, more humanitarian aid will flow into gaza. still a drop in the bucket of what's needed there. it used to be 400 or more trucks going in a day. this is a couple of hundred if that going in a day. but it still is significant given the dire humanitarian crisis unfolding there. on top of that, it also means over the course of the next 48 hours we should see 20 more israeli hostages released, women and children, in exchange for 60 palestinian women and children being released from israeli prisons. crucially it has also shown that mediation can work. difficult though it is, challenging though it is, especially with israel and hamas who have no reason to trust east other right now. that's something the international community has focused on and called for more of as we sit here waiting for today's transfer to be complete and for the hostages to enter israel. >> update -- very important update. thank you very, very much. for more on all of this right now i'm joined by the international spokesperson for the idf, lieutenant colonel jonathan konrikas. thank you so much for joining us. as you know, better than i do, the idf says 11 newly released hostages are now in the hands of the international red cross in gaza, and they're on their way to israel. do you have any updates you can share with us right now, lieutenant colonel? >> good evening, thank you for having me, wolf. so what we've done so far every night is first to understand when hostages exit gaza and are in the hands of the red cross in egypt. next stage will be coming into israel, and then it will be to hospitals and eventually to meet with their families. that's the procedure that we've been following so far. right now we are in that very high-tension moment of waiting for the hostages to be taken through egypt to the entry point into israel. once that happens, we already have the message ready, and we will once it's confirmed, we will send that out to the world. and of course most importantly to the families of the hostages that are waiting eagerly for the return of their loved ones. >> i know it's all very sensitive, lieutenant colonel. if you can share with us, that would be important. if you can't, i totally understand. is the red cross bringing these israeli hostages first from gaza into egypt, through the rafah border crossing, and then they'll cross into israel at karam shalom? that's what's happened in the past. is that what is happening right n n now? >> wolf, you're right, it is sensitive. at this stage i cannot elaborate about it further. and i can only -- we can only say when they are in our hands. and the route is something that i cannot comment on. >> late word is you know that the temporary truce is being extended for another two days. that's very, very significant. first of all, can you share details about how all of this extended truce came about and how the idf is ensuring that hamas will honor its agreements? >> so i cannot yet confirm on the idf level that this is what's happening. i read the reports, i heard what they say. i cannot confirm it yet on my level. it may be true, just not yet on idf level. and maybe the prime minister's office can confirm it otherwise. but of course we are aware of the ongoing i would say relentless negotiations with american involvement, the egyptians, the qataris, of course speaking with hamas in gaza and elsewhere. where the general gist of the things are that hamas are trying to play for time using handles in order to get a respite from fighting. that's the formula. and as you know, this was part of the conditions of the framework to begin with. this is an option that is now being exercised. we understood that was what hamas wanted to do, so there's window for this to happen. there's also a limit for this to happen in the future. we're not there yet, but we do understand what game hamas is playing. they're doing psychological warfare, and they're trying to buy more time for themselves, not for humanitarian needs in gaza, but only for their military needs and maybe to live to see another day. >> can you tell us, lieutenant colonel, whether you know if any americans are part of this final group, this last group of hostages who are now in the hands of the red cross heading toward israel? are any americans included? >> i know that they've been requested, and i know that they, of course, they are on -- very high on the list of priorities. at this stage, i cannot yet confirm. and with everything in this whole process happening, you know, we can only confirm once we have hands on and can see and verify for ourselves. we have learned just as orren said before, the process is a very messy one, where there's many changes, and until things are hands on and we can see them, we are not going to venture out any statements. as soon as it happens, we will confirm. we will let the families know, and then we will let the world know. >> let it be completed first and then everyone can move on. lieutenant colonel, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. amidst all of this, aid groups could only hope this extended truce will become permanent. the organization doctors without borders has been calling for an immediate cease-fire pleading for world leaders to, quote, exert all influence. joining us now is the executive director of doctors without borders usa. thank you so much for joining us. what's your reaction to this truce now being extended for at least another two days? >> well, look, the truce is an opportunity for a few things to get done, and we appreciate that. but what we really need is a cease-fire because a truce, this pause, is really like nothing more than a band-aid on a gushing wound that will really take years to heal. and so that's one of the reasons that the humanitarian community is really united in calling for a real cease-fire so that we can stop the killing, we can stop the siege which is impeding people from being able to move around, to be able to have some freedom of movement, and also we need to bring in substantially more aid to save lives and alleviate suffering. >> how much, though, will a two-day extention of this temporary truce will help your teams? what will they be able to do on the ground? >> it's so difficult when we are asked how much can you do in two days when we are so far behind. the shelves, the storage of the hospitals are bare. we don't have the medicines we need, we don't have the medicines we need in the right places. there's a tremendous amount of logistical capacity that has been completely gutted through the total siege that we've seen. and yes, a few hundred trucks on a day like today is a beautiful photo op, it makes everyone's heart sing and you think, wow, it's carrying all these supplies. but it's not nearly enough. i mean, we still have patients in the burn unit with severe, 50% of the body completely burned, and we don't have the dressings that are appropriate to manage a burn wound like that. it's so difficult to even imagine that -- in a couple of days you are losing this brief little window to be able to go and do assessments to see who needs what, where can we add the additional support, and then all of a sudden we're going to be in this all-out war with absolutely no limits that we've seen so far where not only are hospitals being attacked, but also ambulances and convoys of civilians trying to evacuate are routinely caught -- being caught in the crossfire here. so you know, even as much as you can scramble and do a few things in a few days, it is a blip compared to the needs because we are so far behind with all the devastation that's happened so far. >> avril benoit, executive director of doctors without borders usa. we will continue this conversation to be sure. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. we're going to be taking a very quick break right now. we're monitoring the release of this, the fourth group of hostages by hamas. our special coverage of the truce between israel and hamas will continue right after this. welcome back. i'm wolf blitzer in tel aviv. we're standing by for updates on the breaking news right now. the israeli military saying the red cross has confirmed it has received this, the fourth group of hostages, from hamas, and they are right now en route we are told to israel. let's talk about this and more with the national security council spokesperson john kirby. thank you so much for joining us. i know you're getting updates all the time on what's going on. first of all, do you know if any americans are among those being released right now? >> hey, wolf. this is good news for 11 families for sure. we do not believe that there are americans in this group coming out today. >> and is there an explanation why? i know the u.s. has been working very hard behind the scenes to get americans included. do you -- do we know why hamas is not putting any americans in this new group? >> it's difficult to know and to ascertain specifically how they go about making up these lists and then sharing those lists with the red cross and with the israeli counterparts. we are working very, very hard to keep this flow of hostages going. we're glad to see that there's a two-day extension and certainly would hope in the next two days, in this next couple of installments, that we'll see some americans coming out. but it's difficult to know for sure day to day exactly how hamas is making these decisions. i would remind that the test pilot for this whole program was two americans, a mother and daughter, several weeks ago. and of course we were able to get abigail edan out over the weekend, little 4-year-old toddler, american. so that's promising, and we're just going to keep at it. >> i know earlier today the white house briefing, john, you said there were less than -- you believe -- there are less than ten americans among the hostages, maybe eight or nine you specifically said. do we know if they're men, women, children, how that eight or nine american hostages are broken down? >> yeah. so there were a total of ten unaccounted for americans. we've got now three out. so it could be as few as seven, could be eight or nine left. we don't have an exact figure. but -- and we actually, wolf, don't have perfect information about where they are or even how they are, all of those that we think that are still being held hostage. we do believe that the majority of the ones that are left, and we believe held hostage, are males. right now hamas is only willing to release women and children. so it could be sometime here before we can start to see progress on the other hostages. but again, we're working this almost hour by hour. >> are those american hostages, are they dual citizens? do they also have israeli citiz citizenship? >> i want to be careful here that i don't talk about somebody's citizenship. but obviously what we've seen from -- for so many countries, not just the united states, is that many of these are dual national citizens that claim citizenship both in israel and in our case in the united states. that's very common, and we have to expect that additional hostages that we get out, americans, would most likely have dual citizenship. i want to be careful that we don't get too specific on that. >> that's an important point indeed. a diplomatic source is telling us, john, that there are still more than 40 hostages being held by hamas. but more than 40 hodstages are held by other groups in gaza and maybe individuals being held in gaza. how much does that complicate your efforts to get these people released ? >> it does make it harder here because it is very possible that hamas doesn't have physical custody of all the people that were taken hostage. in fact, it's very possible that hamas did not take all the hostages on october 7th, that other groups, perhaps the palestinian islamic jihad, for instance, has taken some hostages. we know that hamas has connections with them, has communications with these folks, and they're going to have to do the spade teamwork try to get those hostages -- work to try get those hostages into their country to factor into these exchanges. it does make this a little more complex than it would be otherwise if hamas just had all of them in their own custody. i want to go back to just one quick point on the last question you asked. just to make it clear, in president biden's mind, you may -- if you're a dual national, you're still an american, and it doesn't change at all the way we treat our efforts to get you home and back with your families. >> yeah, that's so important, so vital. i just want to get precise also on the situation right now involving the extension, the extended truce for at least another two days. the u.s. strongly supports that i assume, right? >> yes, absolutely. the president was on the phone with prime minister netanyahu just over the weekend urging an extension of this pause so that we could get more hostages out. he was very personally involved in nudging those leaders in the right direction here. >> yeah, let's hope all this works out, this extension of the truce and the hostages coming -- getting out of gaza, coming to israel and then heading home, assuming israel's not necessarily their final destination. john kirby, as usual, thank you so much for all the important work you're doing. appreciate you joining us very much. up next, there's more news we're following back in the united states. saying good-bye to rosalynn carter. the former first lady's casket just arrived at the carter center in atlanta. we'll go there when we come back. the body of former first lady rosalynn carter just arrived at the carter center in atlanta. as you see right here. there it will lie in repose, a repose service will take place in a few hours. members of the public will be paying their respects and sharing their good-byes. mrs. carter died peacefully earlier this month at the age of 96. tomorrow, president biden, the first lady, and rosalynn's husband, former president jimmy carter, are all expected to attend a tribute service in atlanta. cnn's nick valencia is there at the carter center for us. what more are you learning about this new development which is that jimmy carter, who by the way, has been in hospice, is going to make this trip to attend tomorrow's tribute service? >> reporter: that's right. hey there. the former president has been in hospice care since earlier this year. and as of this morning it was unclear whether or not he would attend any of these memorial services for his wife of 77 1/2 years. a couple of hours ago we learned that former president carter will be at the tribute service held tomorrow at emory university here in atlanta. of course the carters originally from plains, georgia, high school sweethearts. they had really strong ties here to the city of atlanta. in fact, residents here could run into them from time to time. in fact, a couple of years ago i ran into the carters while they were trick-or-treating in one of the beautiful in-town neighborhoods here of candler park with their grandchildren. it was a moment ago that the body of rosalynn carter arrived here at the carter center. the presidential center here in atlanta. it just made its way from her alma mater, georgia southwestern state university, where there was a special wreath-laying ceremony. her body will lie in repose here for several hours between 6:00 and 10:00 p.m. the public is encouraged to come here to give their final respects, pay their final respects, say their final good-byes. and of course some notable names that will be at services tomorrow, at emory university, include not just her husband but also the obamas, the lit, and melania trump among the many notable dignitaries that will be paying their respects to this first lady who had just a remarkable, remarkable life. >> she certainly did. nick, thank you so much for that. we're going to continue to watch these live pictures fromming come the carter center -- coming from the carter center. joining us to talk about the life and legacy of rosalynn carter is bill nygut. he's the co-host of "the atlanta journal constitution's" "politically georgia" on wabe radio. and bill, when you look at the evolution of the funeral services for rosalynn carter, where her casket has made stops, you really see her legacy in that. tell us a little bit about the mark that she is leaving. >> well, it's important to note that of course they started in plains, georgia, first thing this morning. and the motorcade made its way first to a hospital in america where she had been treated on several occasions. but the first major stop was at southwestern state university where mrs. carter established an institute for caregivers because caregiving had always been a very important part of her life. she had had to step up when she was 12 years old to take care of her own family. and so for much of her life she understood the difficulties that caregivers have. so that was a very important stop for her. a wreath was laid at the site of the institute. and then, of course, she comes to the carter center. when they came back from washington after that defeat which, by the way, mrs. carter said she knew was going to happen. her husband thought they could win re-election, but mrs. carter said, "i always knew that it was not in the cards for jimmy to be re-elected." >> yeah. >> but they come now to atlanta, to the carter center, and it was there that they began this extraordinary post-presidential life doing so many things that are in the service of not just the country but the world. monitoring elections, combating severe diseases around the world, among many other things that the carter center has taken on. so tonight the public will have a chance to pay their respects to her before what should be a remarkable service tomorrow in atlanta at a church on the campus of emory university. >> and part of the remarkable thing about this service is that her husband, who has been in hospice, is now we've learned going to attend. that is -- that's a feat certainly. and you spent a lot of time over the years with the carters, married 77 years. can you tell us a little bit about their relationship? because that's obviously a very big part of their legacy together. >> i should first comment very briefly on what you just said. i don't think any of us thought that a president was going to travel to atlanta, as you point out. he's been in home hospice actually since last february, and he's 99 years old. but nothing president carter does should surprise us anymore. remember, he survived what many people thought was a fatal brain cancer several years ago. he has continued to thrive as best as possible in home hospice down in plains. and i think it's the relationship that rosalynn and jimmy carter had while they were together in plains in this last year that says so much about their relationship. mrs. carter's dementia was advancing. he, of course, was certainly frail and quite ill. but every day we're told by family they sat together in the house they've owned for -- since 1961. they held hands. they talked. and every night they each ate a dish of peanut butter ice-cream. they have been partners their entire relationship, true, genuine partners. she helped get him elected governor. she helped him with his campaign for president. she read all of the speeches that he gave from the white house and made edits when she thought it was important. so she was true lie a partner -- truly a partner to him. and he always looked up to her as someone who could completely relate to the work that he was trying to do and add to what he hoped to do as president and then in the post presidency. >> yeah. really setting a precedent as an involved first lady that i think impacted people who came after her. and it's so important that we are seeing her honored for that, as well. bill, thank you so much for sharing what you know. we really appreciate it. >> thank you for taking the time to pay tribute to her with the way you're doing it on cnn today. >> of course, bill. thank you. so we are also following developments out of gaza, of course. 11 newly released hostages, most of them children and mothers, they are now said to be under red cross care. they're on their way back to israel. this as the truce between israel and hamas has reportedly been extended by two days. stay with us. 11 more israeli hostages have just been released by hamas, handed over to the red cross. and with qatar's announcement about a truce extension for another two days, more hostages potentially could be coming home over the next few days. nine americans are reported still in captivity. maybe nine, could be seven, eight, or nine, we are told by john kirby, spokesman for the national security council. one of those americans is keith seigel, the father and brother of my next two guests. joining us now elan seigel. let's talk about your mother, first of all. she has been released. show us a picture of her. >> yes. so my mother has been released last night. we are so happy to have her. and i truly believe that it's not a miracle, it's a hard job of the u.s. government and qatar and egypt and the israeli government. and i'm sure that if she is back home after 51 days of hell, as she says, we -- we have to bring all of them home. we have to bring my dad, which is -- he's an american citizen, and we are american citizens. and we believe in president biden to bring all of them home. >> how's your mother doing? >> she is recovering. >> she's in the hospital. >> she's in the hospital. we hug her, and she -- she will have her few days to recover, and then we'll take her home and help her to go past this hard moment. >> please pass along our love to your mom. >> i will. >> as well. lee, give us a sense of how your family is doing. >> our family is overwhelmed with joy. the best thing that happened to me in the last 51, 52 days was to give aviva a hug and to give all of their children big, big hugs and see the joy on all of our faces having aviva home with us. >> your brother, though, is still being held, right? >> my brother keith is still being held. keith missed out on thanksgiving this time around. we're not going to wait another year for thanksgiving to come around. as soon as possible keith will be with us, we know that. we have hope. we know as elan said, the american government, the biden administration, the governments of qatar, egypt, and israel are doing all they can to make this happen as quickly as possible. we see hostages continuing to be released. it's not rocket science, excuse the expression. their cease-fire, hostages get released, and we expect that to expect until all the hostages have been returned. >> what worries me, lee, and i'm sure worries you and elan worries you, they're releasing women, elderly women, and children. men like your brother, keith, are not being released. >> that makes it more difficult for us. it certainly does. there are also infants that have not been released. that is indescribable how could that possibly happen. again, we know that over time what needs to be done will be done and they will all be home. >> show us a picture of your brother keith. 64 years old. tell us a little about keith seigel. >> keith seigel is the most gentle person you could have the privilege to meet. he's engaging. he will listen. he will respect everyone's thoughts, words, space. he is the epitome of a human being, be the way we would like the world to see all human beings. >> what goes through your mind, lee, knowing now that the truce is going to be extended for at least another two days? >> i am happy that that is happening. i don't think that is enough. i don't think two days, ten hostages at a time, will bring resolution to what we're looking for. i think that keith being an american citizen should have the full support and we know he does of the american government, the united states administration, the biden administration. up and down the congress and the senate. we know -- we have been told that it is important to bring back all the hostages, and within that, keith, he's a man, he's not -- he wasn't responsible for being born a man 64 years ago. he's a human being. and all human beings deserve to be in their homes. there are people that don't call israel their home believed to be -- who should be in their home safe and sound. >> let's hope he's home soon, lee, thank you so much. >> thank you, wolf. thank you for coming. >> thank you, elan, thank you so much. >> thank you for coming back. >> thank you. >> and welcoming aviva with us back to israel. >> let's hope -- yeah. all right. >> i just want to add that abigail, which is a 4-year-old, also came home last night. she is also an american citizen. and we truly believe that my dad will come home tomorrow -- i go to sleep tonight with the knowing that everybody's doing their best to bring him home tomorrow. tomorrow we will see him. he will come and hug us and hug my mother, and he will with us. >> let's hope that happens. good luck. thank you very much to both of you for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. earlier today i had a chance to speak to the uncle of an israeli child hostage named h hi la -- hila rotem, her uncle talked about how significant it was that he was finally getting together with his niece who turned 13 today, today is hila's birthday. she's currently over at the children's hospital outside tel aviv. the uncle and i had a very emotional discussion, and i want to play a little clip from our special interview. watch this. >> she tells me her mother is here, and they come and they took us. and they didn't give us a lot of time to prepare. but i had time to gaza strip -- to give her a hug. and her mother, my sister, was crying when the children left. and yeah, that's how it ended. and she's still there. she had to -- to say good-bye to her mother. she don't know what is going to happen with her mother. the mother is not going -- the mother doesn't know what happens with hila. i'm sure my sister, hila's mother, don't know what's going to be next. are they going to set her free, are they going to jail her again, are they going to murder her? the first thing that they said when they met me was, yeah, we've been with my sister the whole time and hila told me, look at my hair. my mother cut it for me when we were in captivity. so they were together. >> we are, of course, so, so glad that hila rotem is home, and we hope her mother will soon be released, as well. you can see the full interview with yair rotem later right here on cnn, in the "situation room" beginning 6:00 p.m. eastern. that special interview coming up. you're going to want to see it. . right now the justice didn't is investigating whether a shooting that injured three palestinian college students is a hate crime. police charged jason eaten with three counts of attempted murder. he pleaded not guilty in court today, and according to court documents, these victims were just walking down the street on saturday when a man approached them and started shooting. at the time the students were speaking a mix of arabic and english and two were wearing traditional palestinian scarves. the families are calling on authorities to consider hate crime charges. for more on this, let's bring in cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. the state attorney's office says there's not enough evidence to add a hate crime to the enhancement. what evidence would they need. >> they would need evidence not just that the crime occurred but this the chief motivation behind the crime was hate against a religion, an ethnicity, a race, or so on, and they don't have that. now, brianna, from a practical standpoint, he's facing 20 years to life times three, and a hate crime enhancement wouldn't make much difference. but from a community standpoint the community wants to know was this a hate crime, what was the motive, and so far that evidence has. emerged. >> it sends a signal, i think, right? it's an important recognition for the community. what are you learning about what lead authorities to jason eaton? >> what led authorities to jason eaton was the lack of video showing a perpetrator captured on video, a perpetrator running to a car, a suspect that they might be able to get an i'd indi fication of, and so they start knocking on doors and asking in the immediate vicinity, what did you see, what did you hear, and when they knocked of his door, this is an atf agent part of the gun violence task force of the burlington, vermont, p.d., he knocks on the door with his partner, and according to him, sam brown, the agent says he came out, he looked a little bit shocked and shaky. he says, i've been waiting for you, and then put his hands out, as if offering himself to be handcuffed. so first from an officer's safety standpoint, they asked him if there were any weapons in the apartment, and he said, yes, a shotgun, according to the affidavit, they then handcuffed him, and he said i want a lawyer. after that, they weren't able to talk to him. they were able to get a search warrant and they did, according to the affidavit, recover a ruger, 380 semi-automatic pistol and the gun specifically matched to the shell casings and the ballistics recovered from the crime, and the bullets are the hornady tips that are distinctive and they recovered those on the same dresser. >> that will obviously be key. john miller, t thanks so much. we appreciciate it. the l"thehe lead withth jake ta stararts after t this short t b. you want to be able to provide your child with the tools or resources they need. with reliable internet at home, through the internet essentials program, the world opened up. fellas, fellas. that's how my son was able to find the hidden genius project. we wanted to give y'all the necessary skills to compete with the future. kevin's now part of this next generation of young people who feel they can thrive. ♪ ♪

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