goli, taste your goals. as of this moment, there seems to be a complication or even a snag in the scheduled release of the israeli hostages by hamas terrorists, and this is the fourth scheduled day of the release, but right now, sources tell cnn there is a question about mothers as part of the deal mothers are supposed to be released with their children, but there seems to be some mothers missing on the list today. israel considers this a violation of the fragile deal. >> with that issue hanging in the balance is the hope that this truce is going to be extended beyond today. israel is making the stance clear if more hostages are not released, military operations are going to be taken to take out hamas. we are learning from the hostages that have been released what they have been living through. one of the hostages taken from music festivals was escaped from captivity, only to be recaptured and then finally released to the israeli officials yesterday. kaitlan collins is in tel aviv as we wait to when and if the hostage exchange is going to happen. what are you hearing, kaitlan? >> yeah. there are two outstanding issues here. one, are they going to resolve the issue over the list of hostages to be released on day four, and two, are they going to agree to the extension, and something that is an interest clearly from both of the parties hamas and israel, but it is not clear if they have resolved that. the first list is the people coming home, back to the israeli soil today, and what that list is going to be looking like, and john, you are right, it is centering around the mothers, because part of the agreement, israel says that the mothers in captivity with their children must be released if the children are released, and they don't want one kid released a and the mom staying behind to take advantage of the fact that there are families being kept in captivity. so that is an issue that we are waiting to see if it is going to be resolved near the next several hours. there is a delay in facilitating the exchange of the hostages, and this is because israel wants to see different names on what the list is going to be ultimately looking line. we have not seen anything that says it is derailed or that the exchange is not going to happen today, but we are waiting to see what the israeli officials are going to say when the negotiations are going on with hamas and israel all mediated by qatar who has been stepping in, any step of the way really. and there is one ther question about the list with the americans that are going to be on it, and that is the two others on this list of the first group of 50 to be released by hamas. for that, i want to go to senior white house correspondent m.j. lee doing a lot of reporting on this. m.j., what is the latest that the white house officials are hearing of whether or not the americans are going to make it on today's list? >> well, kaitlan, as you say, today is a significant day for this white house, because today would be the day when two american women citizens would be released as a part of the four-day truce. a reminder for everyone, we are talking about 50 women and children covered under the deal, and what the white house has said, there are three women and children in the mix. of course, yesterday, we saw the release of abigail adan, the 4-year-old american israeli citizen, and that going to leave us with two additional women, and if they are not part of the list of the hostages today released, there are serious questions of why not. of course, we absolutely have no idea of anything really about their condition. there are also questions of course about seven additional american citizens unaccounted for. we do know from the white house they are men, but again, this is a situation where we don't really know anything about their condition. they were not covered under the first part of this deal. they are not women and children, and so they are expected to be coming out as a part of the four-day truce, but again, questions of when potentially they may get out, and for the white house, this is one of the reasons why they are pushing for the extension of this deal past the first four days. here is john kirby earlier today. >> this deal is for the first 50, and what hamas agreed to was women and children, and so we knew that there was abigail and two women, and we hope that the two american women can get released today. the other hostages do not fall into that category, because they are men, but back to what you said in the beginning that hamas is going to agree to an extension of this deal so we can get more hostages out in the coming days. >> kaitlan, i do not expect the white house to comment in any official way if these two american women end up being on the list. we have seen that the policy of the u.s. government is that they would contact the family members of the hostages if and when they safely get out of gaza, and so there is a privacy and respect for the families, but there is also how much the u.s. officials are careful of talking about the american citizens and unwilling to predict whether any of the hostages might be able to get out, and until these women and children are safely out of gaza, the white house has been very careful not to comment in any shape or form. that goes to show you how fluid these negotiations are, and how tenuous the circumstances are, and then of course, to emphasize that the white house very much would like to see this truce, this pause of fighting to be extended, because there are additional american hostages unaccounted for, and people in gaza that the white house would very much like to see get out. >> yes, we saw how careful they were when abigail adan was released and they believed she was, but they did not confirm it when she was safely back here in israel. and m.j., we will continue with the latest on that. and abigail was 3 years old when she was taken by hamas, and turned 4 while in captivity. there is incredibly emotional videos coming out of the hospitals when they reunited with their loved ones, and not knowing if the reyunions would happen. here is emily hand hugged by her sister there, and no one can forget the searing interview that her father did with cnn's clarissa ward, and then to first believe she had been killed, and then to find out that she had been kidnapped. and the concern as of so many families. >> she has lost a lot of weight as of the look of her face and body, but generally better than expected. we would like to thank everyone who has helped and supported us throughout the 50 days, and you have been great. we can't do it without you. >> cnn's oren liebermann is joining us, and hearing from her father that she is doing better, and she has lost weight, and not properly nourished, but what about the mental state and physical state after being held in the dark for so many weeks, what can we learn? >> the physical state is one thing, but the mental state is another one. most of the hostages have come out in fairly good physical condition, but the biggest issue has been malnutrition, and they have not gotten the nutrition they have needed, and most have lost around 15 pounds which certainly affects body. and the main question is how long will it take for the mental health aspect of this, and what is the process there. we have had a chance to speak to the families who have not known when the family members will come out of gaza, and this is an entirely different question, and one that weighs on the entire nation. [ applause ] >> reporter: a moment of joy after 50 days of darkness. the families from far aza finally have some come back from captivity back to israel. most of the hostages released on day three of the truce came from this tiny community here where this lady's husband was killed, and it has been six days of hell for her until this night. >> it has been a holocaust for us, and we don't know whether they are alive or not. >> reporter: the country as a whole has rejoiced as the families are coming together once again. like the unbridled joy of thomas hand embracing his daughter after six week of captivity. israel has found unity pressing for all of the hostages to be released. but these notes are bittersweet for the families still waiting. >> actually it is a little bit happy and scary and horrible. we are going up and down. >> reporter: he is waiting for the release of his family, including the youngest hostage in captivity who turned 10 months in captivity, and they were hoping that they would not hold a hostage so young for so long. >> everybody thought that the youngest would come earlier. >> reporter: the families had been desperate to hear from the youngest to be released, but too often, it is more waiting and more pain, but sometimes the kidnapped become the rescued. the list of missing becomes shorter, and the community that can grow again grows closer. one of the things that we have heard from virtually every family is that when their loved ones come home, they will fight for the release of all of the hostages held in gaza, and that is pressure on the israeli government and red cross and international community that they intend to keep up. kaitlan. >> yeah. i mean, the hostages and the families have become like their own family throughout this ordeal, because they are in a whatsapp group, and routing for another one to come home. and oren, you are also learning more about what the hostages went through when they were being held in gaza, and what are the details that you are hearing? >> so, there are two stories that we have been learning over the past 24 hours or so. one is the 84-year-old, the eldest hostages held, and she is in critical condition, according to the doctor who is representing the forum of the families held, and negligent that no human being should have gone through. the malnutrition, and because of the age, it affected her tremendously, and she is getting all of the help she needs, but she is remaining in critical don diss -- condition, and her son says that he tried to send her medicines through the red cross, and he was criticizing the red cross and hamas for not doing what they are supposed to do. and also, we heard from another russian resident who was released as a favor to vladimir putin. and the house he was in was bombed and he escaped in gaza for four days until he says that he was recapture by hamas and held until just released. >> yes, we are learning so much from the families since they have been released. and we heard from one hostage family that their loved ones is a male in mid 30s and not expected to be on the list. they got a call and confirmation of proof of life. they did not find out what it was, but it was a small glimmer of hope for those not seeing the loved ones come home. oren liebermann, i know that you will remember this agreement when it comes to the humanitarian relief which is israel releasing thousands of pounds of aid once the hostages have been turned over. and in this four-day pause, whether or not they will ultimately agree to a longer pause is remaining to be seen. they are talking about it. we are learning more about this and including from cnn's ben wedeman in jerusalem tracking this now. when it is coming to the palestinians being released from the jails, and what are you hearing about that from those with have been released. all of them are 18r younger including two 15-year-old boys and 14-year-old boy. now, 23 of them are administrative detainees, and these are the people who have been rounded up by the israelis, and they have not been officially charged. they are being held in six-month-renewable periods. the way that administrative detention works, they do not have access to the evidence against them, because it is considered state secrets. now, the remainder of the 13 or the 16 have been convicted. some of the convictions are things like stone throwing, and throwing molotov cocktails, assaulting police, and what is called the nationalist incitement, but it is worth noting that a ngo who monitors the justice system in the occupied west bank says that 95% of the cases that go before the military courts end up in convictions. kaitlan. >> yeah, that has been a massive sticking point in this with israel saying that it is a painful decision for them to agree to that, but one they felt was necessary to get the hostages back, and we will continue to see if the prisoners can be taking over in jerusalem. thank you, ben wedeman. and so, we are going to wait and see if there is going to be an agreement with all of the four sides negotiating. >> and with that i bring in ba ba barack ravid from axios. what are you learning? >> we are learned that there with two mothers not on the list in the first place, and meaning that we are on track for the group of hostages that are going bre leased and the israeli officials say if nothing unexpected will happen in the next hour or two, we will see the process starting. >> all right. just to be clear. the two mothers who were not on the list are now on the list? >> exactly. this is where the things are going. let's go back a bit. when israel received list last night, it saw that there are several children on the list without their mothers. part of the understanding between israel and hamas and the qatari negotiators is that you do not separate the parent and child. this was not the case. so there were excruciating negotiations over the past hour, and three israeli negotiators told me that this was solved and two of the mothers are back on the list, and again, if nothing unexpected happens, then we will see their release in the next few hours. >> all right. we will be watching that closely as we get the names which is going to be taking several hours, the way it has worked the last few days. barak, when is the world going to know if this has been extended another day, and whether or not there is another day in the fighting, another pause, and whether there is going to be more hostages we leased tomorrow? >> well, i think that we will know in the next few hours, but i talked to people who are involved with the negotiators. and so even though there is not a deal, but tomorrow, and the day after, and even the next 48 hour, the release of 28 hostages, this is definitely the direction, we are headed. >> what is the mechanism, and israel and then they come forward with the list? do we know how this is supposed to work? >> first, we have to finish the group of hostages that need to be released today. before that, nobody is going to be closing deal about what happens tomorrow but say this happens, and they have to get the list of who going to be released tomorrow, and it has to be ten hostages for another day of pause. this means that the list will have to reach israel sort of until midnight, so, we don't have a lot of time. >> then after the next few days, barak, and the government approved only a certain number of days for the truce, and is there and i expectation that this is not going to go on indefinitely, and israel will go back to continue the offensive? >> i have zero doubt, zero doubt that once this hamas runs out of hostages it can release, the pause will end, and israel will go back to the operation, because it did not stop operating in southern gaza. it is going to be very, very different than what we saw in northern gaza. the scope is going to be much smaller. it will not be this all-out assault, but specific raids on specific targets. >> what have you heard specifically from the hamas military to constitute it all particularly in the north in the pause that has happen sod far? >> the israeli officials that i spoke to about this say they are not very concerned about the fourth the bigger idea is the south, and they did not operate on the ground there, and just conducted air strikes. is and the idea awaits of what is going to be there, and although, there is a lot of xern making progress much, much faster than he thought that he would. >> barak ravid, thank you so much for that reporting. according to his sources, the impasse has been solved, and they are starting to inform people on the list incudd -- including people who were not on the list, and that is a major development. and now, what is going to happen today with the hostages to be released today, and with that resolved, what does that mean for another day? a suspect is under arrest for shooting three palestinian college students over the weekend. that suspect is about to face a judge this hour. cncnn heheroes, , an all-st tribute sundnday, decembmber 10 some uncertainty remains with the fourth and final day of the hostage release that brought about the four-day truce. the truce that could expire today. a key sticking point in the release today had been this morning concern over the children released without their mothers which is a key part of how this deal was brokered. barak ravid of axios said there was a snag because the mothers had been left off of the list, but the issue has been resolved and israeli officials are informing the hostages on the list today. now, from the white house, john kirby said that president biden is heavily involved in ongoing negotiations especially to get several americans released after little abigail adan was released yesterday. >> the president has been involved in this entire deal. he as been personally involved getting ins this turned ore. and including this little girl who had to see her parents get slaughtered in front of her, and of course, we felt a special need to get her out in front of us. and by no means, not excluding these two mirn women who are hopefully on the list today. >> joining us is the president ambassador the nato and president biden. this is the fourth and final day of the truce, and do you consider this a success if it does not continue past this fourth day? >> it is allowing humanitarian aid to come in, and of course, a lot of aid has come n and it is not enough given the needs that exhaust in negotiation, and the gains are important, and those who were suffering are not anymore and they are helped a little bit. >> mr. ambassador, you are talking about the challenge that president biden finds himself in, and supporting israel forcefully and publicly, and asking israel tough questions about how they reach the goals privately and also trying to prevent this from all spilling over regionally. do you see these events getting more difficult or easier? >> well, i see this as very challenging with a fear of hamas bringing in hezbollah, and the fears of that escalation have died down a little bit, but now there is a concern that has been there from day one really, and president biden has been stressing it privately and in all ways, and increasingly publicly, that the strategy that israel has embarked upon is not going to succeed in eliminating the threat of hamas without incredible and untold death to the people of gaza, and the strategy does not have a good sense of what comes after. the president supporting israel that he feels in the core, and given the events in october 7th inevitable for any american president to support them has used that support to try to convince netanyahu to find new ways to alter his strategy. he has been successful to some extent. israel did not attack hezbollah. israel delayed ground invasion, and they did not have as many ground troops as possible, and now, wie are seeing the humanitarian aid coming in, and this is all president biden using private diplomacy to try to get the israeli government to move in a direction that is more successful than it was initially engaged in. >> one area that the president has not been successful in terms of the engagement in trying to support israel is having to do with the aid, the emergency aid to israel as well as future aid to ukraine, because the future of this aid, these two now that they want to be linked is really coming to a head this week and next as the senate majority leaders promised that he would hold a vote on the senate floor over this emergency aid funding which is caught in limbo now over weeks of interparty and intraparty disagreements of how much aid, and any aid, and conditions on the aid that is needed. from your unique perspective, where are you on this? >> well, kate, it is sad that politics within and between parties are stopping something that is so obviously needed. we need to help israel. we need to provide humanitarian aid to the people in gaza, and we need absolutely to help ukraine defend itself against the attack that has been suffering from russia. this is something that all americans and frankly republicans and democrats should be agreeing on, and yet, we are waiting for weeks and weeks and weeks to even get a vote, and we know that if there is a vote in house and senate, there are large bipartisan majorities in favor of aid to the people of gaza, and it is a strange congressional politics that is preventing it. i remain optimistic, and we remain optimistic to get to a vote, and luckily the senate majority and minority leaders are very much in favor of moving forward with the whole package of aid, and let's hope that we can get that vote done as soon as possible, and stop the internal politics to prevent the much needed aid to people who really need it, and those are the people on the ground fighting in these disparate places and the wars they are facing. >> ambassador daalder, thank you for coming on, and it is good to see you again. >> my thanks. >> john? >> moments ago, the family of rosalynn carter gathered as the first lady's casket was loaded into the hearse for a week of remembrance for the former first lady rosalynn carter. all right. you are looking at the live pictures not far from plains, georgia, obviously, the hometown of former president jimmy carter and the late first lady rosalynn carter, and what you are seeing right now is the live pictures as the motorcade takes her from plains to the carter presidential center in atlanta, georgia. this will kick off or does kick off several days of national memorials to honor the former first lady. president biden is himself going to go to atlanta tomorrow to be part of this. e eva is there. >> yes, the tribute at her alma mater is going to be here where there is going to be a wreath laying ceremony taking place with members of her family and member of the rosalynn carter institute for caregivers that has been on the campus for decades, and that is because care giving was an issue near and dear to her heart. you can feel her presence across the campus. earlier this morning, i spoke with the president of the university, and he was telling me that she was so important for the campus community for the students here from this region, and maybe if you were from a small person from a town like plains, that you can go on the have global impact. we are waiting for 11:00 for the people to come in the motorcade when the wreath laying ceremony is going to take place, and then the body will go to atlanta where her body is going to lie in repose, and the public have an opportunity to pay respects. john? >> and the carters are such an integral part of the community for three quarters of a century. eva mckend, thank you for being there for us. we'll be right back. right now, the man accused of shooting three palestinian college students is being arraigned in vermont. two of the men are in stable condition and the third sustained more serious injuries according to police. the suspect that you saw on the video, jason eaton, shot the men without saying a word beforehand. attorney general merrick garland announced that the justice department is investigating if this is a hate crime. with me is former intelligence analyst john miller. what are you hearing of first and foremost what led them to this man. >> aside from the technology that they usually rely on after doing quite an extensive video canvas of the ring doorbell or the video on the building was not productive, and they went back to plan a of knocking on the doors and talk to witnesses, and who heard what and saw what, and they encountered this individual mr. eaton, and i can't tell you what happened between them, but something in the encounter made them want to focus on him more directly. at that point, they got a search warrant for his house. at that point, they recover a shotgun, we are told by law enforcement sources, and a .380 ruger pistol which matches the caliber. and right now, the ballistics lab is looking at the shell casings on the ground, and the bullet, and whether that gun scientifically matches it. that is where we are on the suspect. >> i want to play what we heard from the attorney general merrick garland in new york. he spoke about this whole thing. listen to this. >> even as we speak, the fbi and the atf are investigating the shooting of three men of palestinian descent, and that investigation including if this is a hate crime is ongoing. the investigative updates by law enforcement officials in vermont is coming soon. >> we have heard the police say that they believe that he shot these men without saying a word beforehand, and so where are they in terms of trying to find a motive here? >> that is right. the witness statements from the three victims is that there was no verbal encounter between them. he opened fire. so right now on the motive, they don't know. when mr. eaton was taken into custody, he said that he wanted a lawyer, and that means that the fbi and the atf will go back through his social media and peel back his life and see if they can find an indicator. >> thank you, john. clearly more to come on this. we'll be right back. to be sure. welcome back. i'm kaitlan collins in tel aviv and something this we are learning about the issues surrounding fourth group of hostages from hamas back to israel, and the issues are now close to being resolved. multiple sources are telling the team here at cnn including that main issue which is centered around the fact of how many mothers were on the list of hostages. as a part of the agreement that has been struck by israel and hamas, hamas is supposed to release any mothers held in captivity with their kids and with those children and not separate them as they are released. we are told that in the initial list that hamas handed over to the qataris which they provided to israel, there was a dispute of the mores this not included on the list with the children, and that is something that israel protested against, and now we are told that there is a new list with additional mothers added to the list. so it does appear that day four of this truce is set to take place with the release of those hostages, and then later the release of the palestinian prisoners. as we are told that they are negotiating a two-day extension to this truce. much more here on the breaking reporting here on the ground in israel in a moment.