calling his political opponents vermin. plus cnn is getting a firsthand look at the tunnels used by hamas as israeli forces are closing in. president biden says hospitals in gaza, quote, must be protected. and for the first time in u.s. history, the u.s. supreme court has adopted a code of conduct. with one major question left unanswered, who exactly will enforce it. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is "the source." it is becoming clearer by the day what a second term for donald trump would center around, revenge. or, as he often puts it, retribution. he's spelling it out clearly for us on camera, warning that it's his political opponents, he says, who are the most dangerous threat facing the united states today, not china or russia or north korea, his opponents. for someone who has long used similar language to authoritarians and fascists, this weekend in new hampshire, trump took things a step further. >> we will rout out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. >> trump appears to be reading from the prompter, not ad libbing those remarks, where he vowed to rout out his political opponents like vermin. the biden campaign says the former president and potentially biden's opponent in 2024 is parroting the autocratic language of adolf hitler and benito mussolini. i should note hitler's biographer quoted the dictator as saying, should i not have the right to eliminate millions of a race that multiplies like vermin. one person who isn't condemning trump's words, the chairwoman of the republican party. >> i'm not going to talk about candidates in a contested primary. i am not going to comment on candidates and their campaign messaging. >> trump's campaign is pushing back on the comparisons to hitler and humussolini, saying those remarks are clearly snow flakes, grasping for anything. their entire existence will be crushed when president trump returns to the white house. the spokesperson who put that statement out later clarified and said he meant to say, sad, miserable existence instead of their entire existence. this isn't just language, by the way. there's a ton of reporting about plans underway for a second trump term, including from "the new york times," which says tonight trump is applauding mass detention in the deportation of undocumented immigrants should he regain power. trump promised to conduct the largest deportation operation in american history. and not long ago he said undocumented immigrants were poisoning the blood of the country. >> it's a very sad thing for our country. it's poisoning the blood of our country. >> i'm joined now by maggie haberman from "the new york times." you've covered donald trump donald trump for a long time. you wrote a book on him. what did you make of the comments in new hampshire on saturday night. >> what's striking from me was not him reading from the prompter about enemies within. he's said that before. vermin was new. the dehumanizing language that he is increasingly willing to use. poisoning the blood of the country also has echos of fascists. and that is a new piece that he has added to his repertoire about immigrants. i think the language, which has been very, very, you know, fascist-invoking or at least echos of fascists in history for a long time, has become much more dramatic and much more severe in recent weeks. and to your point, he's not hiding any of it. what's striking to me too is when his campaign tries to insist he's not really saying what he's saying. as you note, they push back on what he said but they push back on it with a quote that talks about crushing his opponents. i can see where they think they're being clever and suggesting this is a liberal troll. that's not what they said. >> they said crushed their entire existence. he later said that's not what he meant to say. but it is something he typed out and something trump said on camera. when you talk about the progression in trump's language -- he has long used language of authoritarians and fascists. why do you think it's -- how is it -- why is it progressing the way it is now? why does he now feel comfortable calling his political opponents vermin? >> i think number one he does feel as if he has somehow been unleashed by the existence of these indictments against him. i think he sees this as giving him free license to say what he wants. but this is, you know, the donald trump who says things like this is the donald trump who has always been there. that donald trump was much better at masking himself behind a more socially acceptable, contemporary version of a developer in new york or a reality television star or a media figure. but this is who he is. and remember things that we're seeing, like him threatening to go after political opponents in terms of investigations or whatever way he means it when he gets back into office, this is something we've learned since that he did a lot more when he was in office than people realized. we know there were efforts to investigate john kerry. there were efforts to investigate hillary clinton. there were all kinds of efforts to go after people. he also talked about a special counsel against hillary clinton in 2016. this is who he is. >> and now he, though, wants to investigate the people who worked for him, people like john kelly and jim mattis. when we look at the -- general milley, who just left the joint chiefs of staff. he wants to go after people that actually worked for him. >> i personally don't have reporting on that. but that having been said, one of the things about donald trump is that he never rules out anything. you know this as well as anybody, which means that everything is on the table. then his folks say, well, he didn't really say it. someone else said it. if he doesn't -- if he isn't open to these ideas, he is perfectly capable of saying them. >> i think this is not just theoretical. you've done a lot of reporting on what a second trump term would look like. the latest was on what his immigration plans would be. that was one of the biggest issues he rode into office on in 2016. what would that look like if he were re-elected? >> he, as you noted, has been pretty direct about that. he said in a speech he wanted to conduct the largest mass deportation the country has seen. and he's using an eisenhower model with a racist name, as what he had in mind. >> which is the name of an immigration program. >> that was the name of the immigration program under eisenhower. that is what he wants to emulate here, with that in mind. when we approached the trump campaign about trump's immigration plan, they referred tao us to stephen miller, who is not formally advising the campaign, was the architect of his immigration policy in the white house, and is now working on finding lawyers for a future republican administration. and so they laid out and various people we spoke to laid out a very detailed plan that would involve camps on massive open land, to enable this expedited removal and mass deportation. they talk about invoking all kinds of different laws that would enable them to get around existing systems. they talk about re-establishing title 42, which was used during covid as a protocol, which was initially kept in place by president biden. this time for some kind of general illness. so, it's very specific. and this is something that, you know, those of us who have seen stephen miller around a long time, this is something stephen miller is pretty passionate about. donald trump kicked off his campaign with demagoguery and demagoguing immigrants and talking about mexicans as rapists. so, none of this is hugely surprising. >> i was reading this story yesterday in "the new york times." stephen miller is on the record with you. you noted in the story that the trump campaign referred you to stephen miller. so, how do we explain the statement we're getting the night from people running trump's campaign, saying that all of these stories of what a second term would look like they say are purely speculative and theoretical and any personnel lists, policy agendas, or government plans published anywhere are merely suggestion. >> we get that by the basic fact they are very upset. our stories, by others, a number of outlets. and we've been working on this story since june about what trump 2025 would look like that invoke these groups and not only these groups. they've lost control of it, and they're angry for seeing groups get credit for things they're working on and so forth. a lot of this is not just trump's own mouth but people the trump campaign is referring reporters to. t. >> so, why are they putting out the statements then? >> i assume because they think that they think what trump is saying is problematic for him in a general election, which seems like a them problem. >> i want to read one line that stood out to me on immigration. you said part of what their plan was for u.s. consular officials abroad will be directed to expand ideological screening of visa applicants to block people the trump administration considers to have undesirable attitudes. >> they are planning for, at least as they describe it, whether this would be doable or not. we note all of this is going to get challenged legally, particularly birth right citizenship and attempts tend to it. yes, they are going to try to impose a broader ideological screen to try to weed people out. whether they will be able to successfully do that or not, i don't know. they are saying that, and this is being discussed at a time when there are obviously mass protests about global events. >> i mean, the staffing of a trump term -- i think what's important for people to remember when you talk about things that are so important, it's because there are people like general kelly, like mark esper, others who basically stood in the way, maybe not enough for some people. they did block some of the things they wanted to do. >> you know this as well as anybody, trump is very, very responsive and reactive to media coverage. for instance, when they were doing the family separation policy -- which they will not say what's going to happen with that. trump noted with you at the town hall that he would not rule that out. he was very reactive to the negative coverage of it. and that was used to push him away from it in 2018. and that worked. i don't know that he will be as responsive to headlines as he once was just because of everything else engulfing him. >> maggie haberman, great reporting. >> thank you. up next, we have a firsthand look at the widespread destruction on the ground in gaza. cnn's nic robertson says that his 30 years of war reporting, he has never seen anything like it. we'll show you it next. . tonight cnn has an exclusive look on the ground inside of gaza. my colleague, nic robertson, embedded with israeli defense forces, as they conducted an operation against hamas next to a hospital in gaza city. cnn reported from gaza under the idf's escort at all times. i should note cnn did not submit its script or footage to the idf and has retained complete editorial control over the final report. this is from nic robertson. >> reporter: driving into gaza with the israeli forces. it's a war zone. the conditions of our access only show officers, no faces of soldiers, and don't show sensitive equipment. we are passing mile after mile of destruction, buildings blown, collapsed. nothing untouched by the fury of israels hunt for hamas. streets here crushed back to sand. shops, everything that we see, no sign of any civilians here, and the soldiers have been telling us that even inside the stores, they've been finding things like rocket-propelled grenades ready to use against them as they were advancing through this area. >> reporter: a few miles in we pull up at a command post. soldiers living in blown apartment buildings. every building i'm looking at here, wherever you turn, is destroyed. it's shot up. hard to imagine how civilians endured the bombardment here. >> reporter: our next journey much deeper into gaza. and it's about to get dangerous. the troops are going in, but this is what we're going to travel in, this armored vehicle here. we arrive 100 meters from a battle with hamas. tanks blasting targets in nearby buildings. the idf's top spokesperson waiting for us. >> we're now conducting an operation inside gaza. >> reporter: israel is facing massive international pressure over the destruction of homes, the shockingly high civilian death toll. and in the last few days, over its apparently heavy-handed tactics at hospitals. >> we revealed the tunnels that we suspect are underneath the hospital. >> reporter: gari has brought us here to show the connection he says exists between hamas and the ren tee si children's hospital. >> we are now here in an area between a hospital, a school, and a terrorist house. >> reporter: a hamas commander, he says, lived there. he points out the solar panels on the roof. >> this is a tunnel that was like this in the floor. you can see here. >> this is the ladder going down? >> this is the ladder going down. >> i see the ladder going down, yeah. >> this is a 20-meter tunnel. and look at here. look at the tunnel. but look down here. the cables are going down to the tunnel, okay? >> so, they're hard wired into the tunnel. >> the solar panels on the terrorist house provide electricity directly to the tunnel. we have entered a robot inside the tunnel, and the robot saw a massive door, a door that is in the direction of the hospital. >> we're in what is an active fire zone here. you can hear the small arms fire. the idf say they're still clearing this area out. they're getting down here to take a little bit of cover. they're still taking fire. but over here we're able to smell what smelled like rotting flesh, bodies perhaps buried underneath the rubble. >> don't expose yourself. >> reporter: as we move off to the hospital 100 meters away, we're still taking fire. >> we're still conducting operation, operation conducted by our special unit, the israeli navy seals are researching the hospital. >> reporter: hagari later tells us he took a big risk bringing us into such a combat zone. it is clear he wants this story told. >> we're searching here to see the connection of the tunnel to the hospital, okay? we are looking for the connection. >> reporter: as we finally reach the hospital, it is already getting dark. a huge hole has been blasted through the walls into the basement. why is the hospital so damaged? >> so damaged? we came to this hospital five days ago. there were still patients inside the hospital. we did not enter into the hospital. >> reporter: he claims since then all patients were evacuated by hospital staff. >> we assist this evacuation, of course, to make it a safe pass for all the patients in the hospital. we do not know that the hospital is entirely clear. we do not know. we only enter through this area which was suspected because we were being fired. >> reporter: hagari leads us through basement corridors to this room. >> that was the armory, okay? >> reporter: he shows us a few rusting guns and some explosives, says he can show us evidence they found a lot more. but this is what they made safe for our visit. these guns alone have potentially huge implications for gaza's hospitals and israel's apparent push to take control of them. >> the international committee for the red cross say hospitals are given special protection under international humanitarian law in a time of war. but if militants store weapons there or use them as a base of fire, then that protection falls away. >> reporter: in other rooms, he shows us a motorbike with a bullet hole in it that he suspects was used by hamas attackers october 7th. and nearby, possible evidence hostages could have been held here. >> we are now in the basement in the same area yards from the motorcycle. we see right here, we see a rope. we see a woman's clothes, a woman's something covering woman. >> so you think a woman was tied up in this chair. >> this is an assumption, going to be checked for dna. >> reporter: evidence hagari says points to hamas and possible hostage presence below the hospital. >> reporter: in this room, he says, a -- begins october 7th, ends november 3rd, not long before the hospital was evacuated. and on the other side of the room -- >> this is a knife, right? >> yeah, actually i haven't seen it until now. >> what does it tell you? >> i don't want to think about it. but israel does not make assumptions. the forensic team will come here and check the evidence. i think there is no other evidence. by holding hostages here in this room. >> reporter: by bringing us here to this hospital and showing us the connection you believe exists between the terrorists and the possibly hostages, what does this say about the other hospitals here in gaza? >> we asked them to evacuate or assist. he asked us, the pediatric, the ba babies to take them out. we offered help. we even brought incubators to who will take them. the red cross, egypt, who will take them. but cynically, shifa hospital is known by facts, by intelligence, to be a terrorist hub. and it's suspicious also in holding hostages. this is the best shelter for the terror war machine of hamas. >> the hospital authorities said they have no knowledge of hamas or other groups inside their hospitals. is that possible? >> i think it's not possible for a hospital to have this kind of an infrastructure like we saw here and to build this kind of an infrastructure in a basement that was probably ready before for getting hostages after seventh of october massacre. and we knew the terrorists were there. >> how did you know? >> by intelligence. we got some fire from this area. >> from this area? >> from this area. and we were right to fire because what we found, an armory. and if one of our guys would have died from an explosive or a grenade, it's horrible. hamas using this war machine of hospitals in a barbaric way. it's a war crime. it's an international crime. not just a war crime. but holding hostages in a children's hospital? >> but so much damage all around here. >> there is damage all around here because hamas made it impossible for us to fight it. they built all this infrastructure in tunnels and in hospital, around areas populated. >> as we exit the hospital, it is already dark. >> we're just getting ready to leave right now. the fire fight is still going on, still intense, bullets fired, explosions going on up the street there. >> reporter: this war and the controversy surrounding it far from resolved. nic robertson, cnn, gaza. >> it is so rare to get a look like that inside of gaza. nic robertson, thank you for that. we'll have more on israel's war against hamas, including an interview with a top israeli official coming up. but first, here in new york, he spent more than three hours praising his father as an artist. he made a joke about committing perjury. donald trump jr. is back on the witness stand today in the new york civil fraud trial. we'll tell you what he said next.. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. donald trump jr. was back in a new york city courtroom today. this time he was testifying as the first witness for his father's defense. he used his time on the stand to hype up his father's business acumen, calling the former president, quote, an artist and a visionary with real estate. of course, at the heart of this, the $250 million civil fraud trial is going to determine the future of his family's business here in new york. i'm joined now by former federal prosecutor elie honig, and white house communications director, alyssa farah griffin. elie, this is obviously the defense, so it's not surprising. but i mean, how does the judge take him calling trump tower genius, mar-a-lago one of the few american castles we have. does that work for the judge? >> no, it's all irrelevant. i was surprised by the degree to which this was irrelevant. the judge indulged him. when there was an objection from the ag's office, the judge said, i'm just going to let him go, you had six weeks to put on your case. if there was a jury, i don't think donald trump jr. would have been allowed to do 1/10 of what he did today. >> why not? >> because it's completely irrelevant. it's self-congratulatory. it's glossy photos and bowing down to the trump organization. the valuations, who was involved in preparing the statements. if there was a jury, the judge would have cut out most of that testimony. i think his attitude was let him go and we'll move on. >> donald trump wasn't actually in the courtroom today. he is expected to be there soon. alyssa, what did you glean from that seeing how there's a reason he talked about it like that. >> he certainly seemed to know his father would be watching or paying attention to the readout from the courtroom. it felt like a performance to hype the business and hype his father. after he left the courtroom, he gave remarks that donald trump is going to rebuild the new york skyline, as though we don't have a new york skyline right now. this trial in particular has become basically a pr campaign for the trump team. they know there's no winning in any effective sense for them. it's how can we look defiant when we need to, look strong if we need to, and convey ourselves to people being unfairly subjected to a witch hunt. and that's what we saw again. >> i'm also curious of something we saw today, this video, parts of it released of jenna ellis. took a guilty plea in the state of georgia in that case. she's on camera talking about what dani scavino about whether or not trump could win the election. >> he said to me in an excited tone, we' don't care and we're not going to leave. i said what do you mean? he said, the boss, donald trump. he said, the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. >> a pretty remarkable statement from jenna ellis who was one of the president trump's chief attorneys at the time. nearly identically near something then white house chief of staff mark meadows said to me on december 3rd of 2020. he said -- i was saying i planned to resign the next day. he said, what if i told you he wouldn't be leaving office. we're not going to be leaving office. i shared that with investigators. it shows dan scavino did run the twitter account. he was also a white house deputy chief of staff and one of the closest allies of the president, someone who sat right outside the oval office. it shows at the senior post tier at the white house there was a coordinated effort to not leave power. that's terrifying. and jenna ellis was a loyalist up until the point the attorneys got to her and said, ma'am, you've got to take a plea deal. as recently as a few weeks ago, she was rooting for donald trump, still championing him. >> and he did not pay her legal fees. trump's council in georgia said that was absolutely meaningless, that quote from jenna ellis. is it? >> i think jenna ellis is emerging as a more promising witness than sidney powell. jenna ellis, it seems, has made a break from the trump people. during her plea she says, i at least now acknowledge these lies were lies. sidney powell has done no such thing. sidney powell is back out there spewing this election lie garbage. and for that reason, do not think sidney powell is at all a viable witness. i don't think there's a chance the d.a. or any prosecutor calls sidney powell. jenna ellis could be a different story. >> a lot of times the failure to pay legal fees is the straw that breaks the back and sends someone over to the other side. >> she had come out and enor doed ron desantis in the primary. she did ultimately say ron desantis was the better choice for the future. and it's believed by people in trump world that's why he did not offer to pay her legal bills. >> what stood out to me is seeing that clip of jenna ellis -- there's a lot more to come. that's in georgia. but there is an argument going on in the federal case in washington with the special counsel jack smith about cameras being inside the courtroom. and the trump campaign arguing for it. they're arguing against it. it doesn't seem likely, but what do you make? >> there's almost no chance we will see cameras inside the courtroom. i'll make a confession, if you had asked me this a few years ago, i would have said absolutely not. i don't want it. i don't want to encourage grand standing. now i feel 180 degrees different, partially because we're here now, working in media. but also the speedy and public trial. and the fact we're not using technology to take advantage of that is a real miss. now trump gets to say, i wanted you, american people, to see this and you know who didn't want you to see it? the justice department. it's a smart move for him. >> that's because they're saying they believe the trump team would make it look like a circus. >> thank you both as always. up next we're going to speak to israeli adviser netanyahu. his response to what we heard from the oval office today, calls for hospitals in gaza to be protected. tonight cnn got an inside look at a children's hospital inside gaza city where the idf found tunnels it said hamas has been using. the idf is also accusing hamas of having a command complex underneath the al shifa hospital, the largest one inside gaza. the medical examiner is describing catastrophic conditions, premature babies being wrapped in foil, placed next to hot water just so they can stay warm. as the fighting outside the hospital is intensifying, president biden issued this message today. >> it is my hope and expectation that there will be less intrusive action relative to the hospital. the hospital must be protected. >> and joining me now is mark raygev, senior adviser to prime minister netanyahu and former ambassador to the united kingdom. president biden just told reporters that he believes hospitals in gaza must be protected. is israel preparing to strike the al shifa hospital or to go inside of it? >> no, hospitals are protected sites. we don't target hospitals and we don't target patients and doctors. that's obvious. there's part of our creed. what is a situation and what is a legitimate target is the hamas military infrastructure around and under the hospital. and we have to take them out as surgically as we can without causing damage to the hospital, if at all possible, and to avoid harming the people inside. >> okay. so, israel will not strike the al shifa hospital, is that correct? >> we won't target hospitals. we target hamas. >> what about the thousands of people that are sheltering around that hospital complex? i mean, you can see from the imagery that there are still civilians that are sheltering outside that hospital. >> well, the good thing is the overwhelming majority of civilians have heeded our advice and have fled the area. we asked people about a month ago already to start relocating to the south, and they have done so in the hundreds of thousands. the number of people left there is a very small group. we will still, of course, distinguish between combatants, hamas, our enemy, and we will target, and the innocent civilians and make a maximum effort to be as surgical as is possible in a very complex combat situation. >> the prime minister said the hos that israel offered the hospital soon. but they're fearful to go get it. are you guaranteeing people who go outside to get the fuel, they will be safe. >> 100%. i can't guarantee that hamas won't fire upon them. but we bought the fuel, to about 250 yards from the hospital, and we said, come and pick it up because this was enough fuel for generators, specifically for the babies who needed the incubators. and we were trying to say, let's avoid a crisis inside the hospital. we bought the fuel. but as far as we understand, the fuel is still sitting outside the hospital. hamas has forbidden staff from going and picking it up. >> some hospital staff had said it wasn't enough fuel, that it would have only provided half an hour's worth of power and electricity. >> kaitlan, that's -- the fuel is for the incubators, for the babies, and there's more than enough there. and if they run out, we'll supply more. >> you mentioned those babies. there are premature babies, among other patients, that are still at this hospital. you talked about these surgical operations that israel is going to be doing around that hospital, given you believe hamas is operating from underneath it. but before israel does whatever it is going to do around al shifa hospital, will it help facilitate the transfer of those children, those premie babies and the other patients first? >> we've already said that we're willing to do so. we've said that we will facilitate the transfer of people, patients. if they need to be in ambulances, they can be in ambulances. but we have to understand what's going on here. this is a hamas-made humanitarian crisis because we provided fuel for the incubators for the babies and we've suggested ambulances and a way out to move people out. and hamas has said no to any humanitarian solution. they closed it off. they want pictures that will put international pressure on israel to cease our military operation against them. from their point of view, they're trying to be smart because we're hitting them hard. we're destroying their military machine. they want us to stop. they're holding hostage everyone in that hospital preventing humanitarian assistance, preventing the fuel, preventing the relocation of people in ambulances, just so they can try to galvanize and put pressure on israel to stop striking against their military machine. and what they're doing of course -- >> is israel willing -- how do you conduct your operation if there are still children inside that hospital, premature children, who right now are struggling to stay alive based on the accounts that we've heard? >> so, i'm not sure, you know, what else we can do. we provided fuel for the incubators so they could be safely inside the hospital for the time being. and we provided -- we're willing to facilitate ambulances to transfer them out of the hospital if they choose to leave, which is obviously the best solution. and both of those ideas, hamas has vetoed. >> what if they're too sick to leave? >> there are solutions, but hamas is deliberately putting babies in danger for their own propaganda purposes. but you shouldn't be surprised. how did they butcher israeli babies when they crossed the border on october 7th. i saw pictures of israeli babies burned to a cinder. i saw babies shot with bullet bullet wounds in their cots. and you know babies were also kidnapped by hamas. who kidnaps babies? who shoots babies? wheshd have no qualms whatsoever, no problem understanding that hamas is willing to sacrifice palestinian babies as well. >> i've seen that footage as well, and no one is defending hamas here. what about the children inside the al shifa hospital right now and will you guarantee their safety first before whatever operation you do have planned around the al shifa hospital? >> we will make every effort and in accordance to international law. we distinguish between combatants, the hamas target, and non-combatants, who are civilians. and we will be as surgical as possible. you've got a situation where hamas is abusing a humanitarian site, a site that is, according to all the rules of armd conflict, you're not supposed to put your arms in a hospital. they're deliberately holding the patient there is, the babies, the medical staff as hostages to protect their military machine, which is right under the hospital. if any finger of blame should be pointed, it must be at hamas, that has deliberately abused the hospital. it's premeditated crime. they deliberately built their military machine, their command and control, their network of tunnels that lead to rocket launching sites and arms depots and other underground fortresses, they've deliberately built all that under a hospital. >> ambassador, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. up next here at home, the supreme court now has an ethics code following months of revelations about justices accepting lavish gifts and big travel perks. the key question still is, who will police this self-imposed code? >> tonight the supreme court's point to ethics rules in place after months of reports about justices flying on private jets, vacationing on billionaires yachts. all nine justices have now signed on to a 14-page code of conduct governing gifts, fund raising, and also finances. pressure had been building on them to do this, especially because of reports that supreme court justice clarence thomas had failed to disclose luxury vacations that were paid for by the conservative billionaire and donor harlan crow. but the new code of conduct leaves a lot of unanswered questions, so hopefully here to answer this is supreme court expert and law professor the university of texas, steve blatnik. steve, great to have you on this. is it clear to you who's going to enforce this ethics code? >> i think the only thing that's clear, kaitlan, is that the justices are expected and they will enforce it themselves, which of course raises the time old question, who watches the waters? so i think part of the issue with today's development is we have these rules that at least look somewhat reasonable on paper. but part of the issue with the prior behavior is that rules that were not followed. how are we going to know, going forward, that these rules are being followed? what are the consequences going to be if and when the justices don't follow them? >> i mean, that's what's so murky about this. and you look at this on the first page, they talk about the recent questionable behavior from some of the justices. i think the question that i have is is this code had been in place ten years ago, would we have known more about the trips, like the one but justice clarence thomas took in advance, or are we still going to have to learn about that from reporting, like we did? >> i think part of the problem is there is no mechanism in these new rules to find out what the justices have done to publicize incidents in which the justices across the line, to make examples out of justices, even when the rules are clear and they break them. so kaitlan, what i think this really does kick the ball almost squarely back to congress, which even if it can't actually discipline the justices directly, has lots of levers it can pole to try to actually monitor compliance with these rules, to push the court to appoint someone, say, an inspector general who might monitor compliance with the rules and then report to congress and us, the public, when those rules are complied with. but i think this is the point, like, this is a necessary step on the justice part. it's not remotely a sufficient one. we saw this question going forward of how these wheels are going to be enforced, and by whom. >> yeah, it doesn't seem like it's going to do much to bolster that public confidence that the supreme court is so clearly lacking now. steve vladeck, a lot of questions going forward, but thank you for joining with what we do know about this new ethics code. >> thank you. >> up next, a secret service agent in washington of firing his weapon while protecting a member of the biden family. the details of that, ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart, efficient, savvy. making the most of every opportunity. that's why comcast business is introducing the small business bonus. for a limited time you can get up to a $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. yep, $1000. so switch to business internet from the company with the largest fastest reliable network and that powers more businesses than anyone else. learn how you can get $1000 back for your business today. comcast business. powering possibilities. >> tonight, we're learning more about he shooting over the weekend that involved a secret service agent whose assigned to protect president biden's granddaughter, naomi. a spokesperson for the secret service says this agent shot at possibly three people who are trying to break into a parked government car in georgetown, in washington, d.c.. i should note that no one was. hit there was no threat, according to the secret service, to any of those protectees that how that security detail. but all the suspects took off in a red car and are still being search for tonight. the incident is now under investigation by the metropolitan police department and its internal affairs division. i should, note all of this comes amid an uptick in crime and the nation's capital, i lived there for eight years. right, now voter vehicle theft -- motor vehicle theft is up to 8% alone, that's according to d.c. police. we'll stay on top of that, story continue to monitor it. i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight. cnn news night with abby phillip starts right now. >>, -- tip of the israeli sphere. that's tonight on news night.