better speaker who is honest and trustworthy. of course, new speaker, mike johnson, dealing with a lot of the issues kevin mccarty facebook we will see how that goes in the coming days. thank you so much for joining us. cnn newsnight with abby phillip starts right now. democrats and republicans giving us an instruction manual on how to make hard things harder. that is tonight on newsnight. good evening, i'm abby phillip. right now, we are watching both major american political parties ignore history and its lessons, really not learning from their mistakes is always a good recipe to repeat them. but, which party will ultimately bear the brunt is the big question. for democrats, joe manchin is the man in the middle. >> what i will be doing is traveling the country, and speaking out, to see if there is an interest in creating a movement, to mobilize the middle and bring americans together. >> the long-standing west virginia senator announced today that he will not run for re-election, but what he will do is, actually now what worries democrats. joe manchin has flirted with a third-party run idea earlier this year under the no labels banner, and that he might follow through with this, this time, triggers a fear that he will attract voters that otherwise would have cast ballots for joe biden. joe manchin's announcement, strangely enough, happened on the same day that a familiar face from 2016 stepped back into public view. >> i'm jill stein, and i'm running for president to offer the choice for the people outside of the failed two-party system. the parties that got us into this mess are not getting us out. >> jill stein's presence has picked up painful memories for democrats. stein earned one point out of 4 million votes -- 1.4 million votes, i should say, and the forever ire of the hillary clinton campaign in the process. >> that is assuming jill stein will give it up, which she might not, because he is also a russian asset. totally. >> democrats, again, have a candidate that even other democrats are not really sold on. and americans are really not sold on president biden. our new cnn poll shows that biden will narrowly lose to trump if the election were held today. it is a moment of acute political peril for this incumbent president. all of this, though, should seem like good news to republicans, right? well, it would be, if they could out run their very own real problems. but, let's take a journey back to tuesday. that is when republicans lost in kentucky, and in ohio. those are two cherry-red states. ohio is proof that abortion still matters to voters, and last night offered further evidence that republicans are still stuck searching for how to talk about it. >> i don't judge anyone for being pro-choice and i don't want them to judge me for being pro-life. when we are looking at this, there are some states that are going more on the pro-life side, and i welcome that. there are some states more on the pro-choice side, i wish that wasn't the case, but the people decided. >> texas will not do it the same as new hampshire. iowa is not necessarily going to do it the same as virginia. you got to work from the bottom up, you got to do a better job on these referendums. >> we need a 15 week federal limit. >> we should not short-circuit that process that every states people have the right to weigh in on. >> did you hear a consensus there? the headlines don't offer much resources for republicans to straighten out there messaging on this anytime soon. the wall street journal writes that republicans still don't know how to talk about abortion. nbc, gop urges national candidates to campaign against a abortion ban. axios, new battle plans to rush to get abortion on the ballot in 2024. the other battle for republicans is the same as it ever has been, since 2016. donald trump. >> of his endorsement was so important, why have republicans been losing so many of these races. have fewer governors, fewer house members, fewer fewer senators. >> he is a poison. the race in kentucky is one example, but in virginia, as well. you can't overcome the stench of donald trump's political narcissism. that is the bottom line. >> what about donald trump spell it impact? we have more on that, later, but first, the democrats. how does joe manchin affect how they can hold onto the senate? harry denton is here with me over at the magic wall. harry, what is the impact, here, of joe manchin deciding not to run again, in a state that, frankly, i don't know that any democrat can win. what impact will it have on control of the senate in 2024? >> democrats have no margin for error. here is the senate map into 2024. democrats can't lose more than one seat. 51 democrats, or at least caucusing, you have 49 senators caucusing with the republicans. let's look at how many democrats are vulnerable this time around. look, there are seven democratic senate seats in 2024. in states that trump one at least once. is pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, montana, arizona, montana, a slew of these democratic seats in states that trump one at least one time. compare that to the republican side. you know how many gop seats are up in 2024 that trump lost at least once? zero. democrats have far more vulnerable ground than republicans. pretty much all the republican seats are in safe republican areas. here is why you want to keep in mind what is important. polarization is such a thing in our politics. the same party won the presidential and senate race in the state in 2016, for the first time ever it was all of them. 34 out of 34. in 2020, it was 34 out of 35, only susan collins, in maine, was the exception. the fact is that going into 2024, i would much rather be a republican running for senate than a democrat, i would at least put my money on them getting the majority. democrats at this point losing it and joe manchin does not make that an easier. >> it is a tough map in 2024. then again, it was a tough map in 2022 and democrats didn't narrowly expand their majority. we will be back with you shortly. stick around. joining me now at the table is political commentator andy navarro and also with us molly john fast, the host of fast politics, the podcast. she is also a special correspondent for vanity fair. how are democrats feeling, you think, right now that mansion has made this splash. he's not running, but maybe he is running for something else? >> i suspect there is more than one emotion going on, right? joe manchin has been a problem child. but as much of a problem child as he has been, he has been a part of the family and help them keep the majority. so they deal with him because he helps give them the majority. i think right now, they are grappling with the realization that he has just made losing that senate seat a stark reality. that did not look like it had he run and now he comes out and says, not only the senate seat is at risk, but he also says you know what, i'm musing about the idea of being an independent, and running, i will go on and listening to her. it's a lot for democrats to take income in one day. just 48 hours after they were celebrating a great night. this is always what happened two days after the midterm or an off year election. >> somebody would drop the bomb into the politicals sphere. in this case, what is the joe manchin lane? he might be one of the most disliked democrats among democrats >> yeah. >> who is voting for joe manchin ? >> i think joe manchin must know that he is not a popular guy with democrats. but, i think it is this middle, the sane middle, the people -- but i just don't see how this works. right? the sane middle is going to decide that they will vote for a guy who cannot possibly win, in order to make trump president, right? i mean, that is what this looks like. so, i think that is a lot of the anxiety. again, you know, i think a lot of people did not think joe manchin would run again, because the numbers looked bad, you know, jim justice is wildly popular. >> it's almost politically impossible now in that state. >> but i think people would like him, not to now go around trashing president biden. or, you know, shopping some kind of unity ticket which is a political nonstarter and will never ever work. >> you asked about the joe manchin lane and i can only think about the no labels lane, right? a bunch of very wealthy, elitist, former this and former that. the former governor of utah. >> they have a lot of resources. is this something -- >> frankie, i happen to love labels. they don't appeal to me whatsoever, they do appeal to somebody like my husband, but i just think that this idea is destructive, and i want to know, if they want to live with the responsibility of having helped donald trump, who is a threat to democracy, and a threat to american values, go back to being president. if they can live with that, -- >> i would say when other thing is that no labels are largely funded by republicans. nobody is naove there. we see what the play is. i mean, look, the people who started it had a break with the clintons, and then kind of took this -- you know, started this thing, but it is republican money, and i think there is a republican playbook. >> and a lot of older and middle-aged man with a thirst for relevance. >> we were just talking about jill stein, i want to play more of her announcement today. >> democrats have betrayed their promises to working people, use, and the climate, again and again, while republicans don't even make such promises in the first place. and both parties are a danger to our democracy. so, forget the pundits and attack dogs who tell you to ignore your misery, and just keep voting for those who caused it in the first place. change won't come from the ruling elite. it comes from we, the people. >> this lady is like jason in friday the 13th. just when you think she has gone away, she pipes up again. as if she hasn't done enough harm in the past? >> this is a multi-front problem for biden. it is not just joe manchin or jill stein. i mean, there are a lot of people. dean phillips. >> you better mentioned marianne williamson. >> i mean, dean phillips, and steve schmidt, and lots of republican strategist's way of getting money but he is pulling at 2%. but yes, i agree. >> 2% or 3%. >> that's 10,000 votes. >> yeah. and remember that we have an electoral college. it is not about the popular vote. biden probably would win the popular vote, but it is these little pockets of votes in competitive states. there is clearly an effort here. i think it is coordinated, i think that's just, you know, there is a lot of anxiety. look, the other thing is, there is a perverse incentive structure, with people running for president. is vivek ramaswamy going to be president? no. does he wanted podcast? yes. >> you mentioned that people should be concerned about these candidates unwittingly electing trump, but it seems like that argument is not good enough. that they should fear trump and vote for joe biden. otherwise, we would see biden performing better in some of these polls. >> you know, these polls need to be taken with a grain of salt. we look at the polls and he supposed to be such a drag on the ticket and he is supposed to be in so much trouble, and then democrats have this great night. so, yes, i think voters right now are grumpy. and wouldn't you be grumpy if you had been looking on tv at people in the middle east killing each other for a month? if you feel the malaise going on around? when the rubber hits the road and they have to choose between joe biden and the democrats are cuckoo republicans who are constantly manufacturing culture wars, are you going to vote for the actual outrage taking away choice from women, or are you going to vote for the manufactured outrage against mickey mouse and drag queens. >> we have to leave it there, but we will see how that adds up polls are polls and votes are votes, which is a totally different thing. anna and molly, thank you both very much. >> one candidate says that republicans are the party of losers. we will take you behind the numbers in the trump era. plus, alarmingly news tonight, election offices in several states receiving threatening letters in the mail. what happened outside of rescreening about october 7th, organized israeli actress delta.. gal.. wewe will spspeak about t chaos ththat erupteded. this week, republicans have a live to arrive at a crossroads after losing at the ballot box. again, it was rare that the object of consensus on the debate stage was this. >> we have become a party of losers, at the end of the day. >> republicans will get tired of winning. we saw last night, i'm sick of republicans losing. >> but, the gop continues to litigate the why of it. why are they losing? some point to abortion and others see an obvious answer, who is named donald trump. president biden tonight, (republican to the fundraiser -- we haven't stopped raining and he can't stop losing for the truth is this guy can't stop losing. like the climate deniers there are plenty of republicans who see the evidence that say something else is afoot and donald trump is not the one to blame. take trump acolyte vivek ramaswamy. >> trump was the leader of the party through those elections. doesn't tiesha response ability for the losses? >> not in 2023 2022 and 2023. we got in the bad habit of somehow pinning the tail on one man, that's donald trump. >> cnn's harry engine is still with us, so, trump is the rebellion parties northstar, but how is that working for republicans at the ballot box? what do the numbers say? >> it's not good. change from before trump 2016 win, house seats down, senate seats down, across the board, down. vivek ramaswamy tote spoke about the 2022 midterm, that was the first time since 1934, that the opposition party did all of these combined. net loss in governors, net loss in senate seats, net gain of fewer than 10 house seats. this was a tremendous midterm for the democratic party, and, one of the big reasons why is, look at these senate candidates, they lost key races in 2022. blake mathews, herschel walker, adam lex auld, dr. oz. that is a reason why democrats were able to hold onto the senate despite the fact that a lot of people thought that math was pretty bad for democrats coming in, but they were able to hold on. here is the biggest one for you, right? the biggest margin for biden over 2024 from the six swing states from "new york times" and siena college but donald trump is ahead of joe biden by three points. nikki haley leads by nine points and a generic republican leads by 15 points. trump can definitely win, but he is far from the safe bet. and somebody should tell republicans, if you want to win, you should go with somebody else. >> republican voters say that's good enough for them. thank you very much. i want to bring in republican congressman tim burgess from tennessee. he was one of the eight repugnance voted to oust then speaker kevin mccarthy back in october. congressman, thank you so much for being here again. >> thank you for having me. >> as you may know, in an interview with cnn this week, former speaker mccarthy really unloaded on you and seven other republicans who ousted him. was intuited of what he had to say. >> i think the two that were different than all the others were tim burton and nancy mays. the others hadn't voted anyway. >> what about them surprised you? >> they seemed to have changed during that time, they care a lot about press and not about policy. >> your response, congressman? >> well, it's the pot calling the kettle black, really. i made it pretty clear where i was the whole time on this. we were at 32, now we are at $33 trillion in debt, we were up against these of denver 30th deadline, as you remember, and we took the whole month of august off, two weeks at the end of september, and you know, then we rushed back from washington, to do what? to name two post offices, ma'am. that was the priority, and it was the same old thing. it was really, we've had continuing resolutions in the past, they were done for emergency reasons, it was literally an emergency, and it has become our transit system, really, in congress. and there, again, we were backed up against another wall. we do these continuing resolutions because the folks in power like to back-and-forth things for their lobbyist buddies and special interest and that's exactly what we did and then we didn't have any access to voting for spending bills, and nothing was changed. >> can i ask you about that, congressman? let me ask you about the continuing resolutions, because this is salient, just over a week away from a potential government shutdown. you and i spoke, back in september, this is what you told me, then. >> never say never, ma'am, but the way you get somebody off of heroin is not giving them more heroin. the way you get people of this country off the so-called continuing resolutions is to quit passing these continuing resolutions. >> the current speaker, mike johnson, it sounds like he's about to pursue a strategy that relies on continuing resolutions to keep the government-funded, and to buy time, which is pretty much the same thing that kevin mccarthy was doing which you decried at that time. why is he allowed to do that, but mccarthy is not? >> well, kevin mccarthy started in january, if you remember, ma'am, and then we went to almost the week of september 30th, and he created the emergency. what i wanted to say before, i said on your station that i was going to pray about it and then when kevin mccarthy called me on the phone, the two things that he it really insulted me about was, he made fun of the fact that i was going to pray about it, and the second thing that kevin said was, i said about the schedule and he said, i don't set the schedule. can you imagine nancy pelosi saying something like that, or any leader, saying -- putting the blame on someone else? he blamed it on steve scalise and we continue down this road. now, mike johnson is in an emergency situation. he is clearly looking for an answer. the only answer is to pass a budget. but, you cannot pass a multitrillion dollar budget in the matter of a couple of weeks. so he does have his back against the wall. that is why this lettered approach has been put forward by some more conservative members, as possibly an avenue out. we do it every time and we don't allow the government to close down and we don't pass a multitrillion dollar budget with a bunch of goodies pectin, which is exactly what the lobbyists and folks like mike johnson's predecessor wanted to do. so, there is a complete difference there. it is an emergency situation, he does have his back against the wall. >> this lettered approach, your colleagues in the senate have said they don't understand what that means, or how it would even work. it seems to actually rely on the house basically continuously passing short-term bills to fund different parts of the government to buy more time. that seems awfully risky, given that your party has had trouble, even this week, getting to consensus, even internally, on certain parts of your spending agenda >> yes, that is an excellent question, and the answer to that is, it is a staggered approach because not everything runs out at certain times. there are certain things that run out at different times, and there are certain aspects of governments, that we stay afloat, and that even in a shutdown we would remain operational. so, you prioritize the things like that which we need, national defense, things like that, and then you move in the direction of completing the entire budgetary process. so, it is a staggered approach. >> how is this any different from what we faced just a month and a half ago? it feels very similar, we are eight days away, there is no plan to get to a funding of the government before the deadline. this is dij@ vu, isn't it? >> for the last 30 years, ma'am, both parties have done exactly what we were doing prior to speaker johnson's approach. so i would say that it is different, because for the last 30 years, we have done continuing resolution after continuing resolution, after on the bus, which is just asking nancy pelosi we have to pass it before we know what is in it type situation. this is a more staggered approach, and also, you will see what you are voting for. it is not just jampacked with everything and your back is against the wall, you have a certain timeline, and you know what you have to pass within that timeline. it is no different than in the past, other than that you know what is in it and it will be a staggered approach and more focus can be put on individual spending aspects, which is what we do in tennessee when we pass a budget. >> congressman tim burgett, thank you for joining us on all of that. >> thank you, ma'am, it's been a pleasure. next, election officials across the country are being sent to suspicious letters, some, potentially laced with fentanyl. plus, israel has agreed to daily for our pauses in strikes on gaza. i will speak with a palestinian american who has lost 17 family members in gaza, since this war startrted. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. election workers across the country are on edge tonight after suspicious letters were sent to election offices in several states. some of them potentially laced with fentanyl. among the states that were hit, oregon, nevada, california, and georgia, there was washington, where it was confirmed that fentanyl was in fact found in an envelope received by election officials in king county, that is home to seattle, discovered among the counted ballots from tuesday's elections. washington secretary of state, steve hobbs, joins me now. secretary of state hobbs, thank you for joining us. you have called is a domestic terror attack, what can you tell us about that white powder found in conference to be fentanyl? >> thank you for having me on. with at five of our counties that have received this letter, four of which have been -- sorry, four have been confirmed receiving fentanyl, the fifth one, luckily because we put the word out, the letter was identified and set aside and was not opened. again, this is a horrible tragedy, and bringing terror and fear to these election workers just trying to do the right thing and process these elections. >> going into this election year, are you worried that this is the climate election workers will be operating in? fearing, literally, for their lives as they try to do their jobs? >> abby, this is a prelude to what will happen in 2024 but you have an individual mailing fentanyl, and our election workers have got to sit there, you know, thinking is this envelope i will open up have a powder of some kind? of course, cnn is reporting this , but the misinformation that is going on out there, that is generating the aggression and hostility against our election workers, which is why i hope my state passes a bill to protect our election workers, and the federal government does the same thing. >> with so many elected officials in washington not even believing the last election was legit legitimate, do you believe that is possible? >> we cannot give up. elections are the foundation of our democracy, and if that fails, democracy fails. so, what we have to do, as a secretaries of state, and election officials, is go beyond telling the voter about remembering to vote on election day, or, in my case, put the ballot in the mail in the dropbox, what we have to do is talk about the election process, right? in my state, we check every signature. tabulation machines are not connected to the internet, and across the country, anyone can observe their elections. a lot of people don't know that. because we took elections for granted, the false narrative took hold which is why you have january 6th. we have to turn this around, and myself, and others across the united states are trying to turn this around. >> washington secretary of state steve hobbs, thank you for joining us tonight. next, i will speak with a palestinian american who has lost 17 members of his family in gaza since the start of the israel/hamas war. plus, israeli actress gal gadot is organizing a screening of octobers brutality from october seventh seventh. ththe result w was fights in th street. . someone e who was ththere wiwil usus after thihis. as calls for a cease-fire grow inside the united states tonight, israel has agreed to for our pauses each day to allowed age to get into gaza and civilians to get out. a senior israeli official says this will only apply to specific neighborhoods in the war zone. some democrats say this is not enough. my next guest knows firsthand just how devastating this violence has been for families still inside of gaza. sammy siobhan is a palestinian american who has lost 17 family members since this war began. that amounts to four generations, now gone. thank you so much for being here and i am so sorry for what is really a profound loss for your family. we were just speaking, 11 of the 17 members, basically lost in one instance. tell us about what happened. >> yeah, they were lost but they were specifically killed. a bomb dropped on them. it was ironic because my cousin, abdulla, who lives there, said it safer where i am. they were bombed, nine of them were killed there. the two survivors were my uncle and my cousin. she survived only for a few days going through surgery without anesthesia, but cut directly into you, in the hospital. my uncle survived for 10 days but he eventually succumbed to his wounds. he was burned from head to toe. he was the best of us. he was a person who, from the time he was young, was just a beautiful person. he would line up for prayer, he would always be trying to guide you towards good, he was always somebody that people looked up to. to have that loss, to me it breaks my heart, that i will never be able to see him again. >> you also have a lot of family members in gaza. what are their lives like right now? >> there are no basic necessities. my aunt, dependent on life- saving drugs, is running out of those medicines. my uncle, who requires oxygen tanks is running out. when they are surrounded, my uncles family needed to be excavated, and when they did take them out, they could only take them out in small chunks. indistinct shabbat. they couldn't tell who was who. especially children. >> how many children were there? >> there were four children. one of them was not even a year old. i have a picture that i shared with you all. in that one picture at a wedding, they all look so happy. not one of them is alive right now. >> you have a cousin who is or was pregnant? how is she? >> she is surviving. she was pregnant and went to the hospital, she ended up having a cesarean section, as any mother will tell you, there's 1 million doctors. she had nothing. she went to a small group, they had to have her out within 10 hours of that and now she has had to move several times within gaza, just to survive, with these wounds. >> shortly after having a baby. what is your reaction to this news, that there will be these for our windows each day to allow civilians to move around within gaza, from the israeli government? >> is a palestinian, i welcome it, because it is my family. but it is not enough. more needs to be done. there needs to be a cease-fire, there needs to be an end to the blockade of humanitarian aid but these people are dying but they are running out of food. my cousins told me there is no water or food for them to eat or drink. we need to open this up with these kids have done nothing wrong. 4000 children have been killed at this point. 4000. that is more than the 9/11. this is a cemetery in crisis at epic levels. we need to stop this. it is our government that is partially responsible, and we need to have the bravery to stand up to anybody in the world and so you need to stop this. there are better ways to do this. if there was a mass shooter in a school, you would not blow up the whole school, right? you need to be technical about how you go after this, because in the meantime, my family members and innocent people there are being killed, they are being slaughtered but this is turning into a genocide. we need to stop it, now. >> i appreciate you sharing your perspective. amicably sorry, as i said earlier, it is a profound loss, the number of people. thank you for joining us. up next for us, israeli actress, gal gadot, streaming a presentation about the atrocities on n octobeber 7th. but outstside of the theheater, ththere were figights brbreakin inin the strtreets. >> it is a place that is meant to be focused on peace, but instead it became the site. of violence this was the scene outside of the museum of tolerance in los angeles yesterday. inside of that museum was a screening of footage released by the idf and organized by israeli actress gal gadot,. showing the horrors of the hamas attack on october 7th. now, chaos broke out between pro palestinian and pro israeli demonstrators. my next guest attended that a screening, rabbi abraham cooper is the director of global social action at the simon wasn't all center and tolerance museum and he joins me now. rabbi,. thank you so much for being here. what is your reaction just seeing those scenes breaking out? people punching each other, basically, outside of an event like this? >> abby, first of all, thank you for having me on. before we get to talking about last night i want to express my condolences directly to sami shabbat who described the horrific loss of rightlife of his family. but i also want to say to him and to the people in gaza, the blood of these innocence are on the hands of hamas. right now we have 240 people -- including 32 kids, a nine month old into this, as hostages and, tragically, you see that, essentially all of gaza and gazans are used as human shields by this terrorist group. so my heart breaks, i have two daughters and a grandchildren in israel and this is frightening for so many of us here in the united states. very intensely personal. last night, you know, i have been working for the simon reasons all center, which deals with a holocaust et cetera, for 46 years. the footage that we saw for 43 minutes, most of it was taken from cell phones at the a mosque terrorists themselves took depicted such atrocities that i wish, in some ways, we hadn't had to watch any of it, but in other ways i think there has been a fundamental problem in that everyone just assumed that this is round five between israel and hamas, it happened before it happened again. what transpired the mass murders, the, taking, the hostage taking, something totally different. people inside our museum of tolerance, about 200 or so members of the entertainment community, some diplomats, it was a long 43 minutes to watch. it was extremely difficult as a parent and grandparent even try to absorb. as far as outside what took place, first i give high grades to the lapd. thank god, in the end, no one was seriously hurt, although we have already had a situation where an american jewish protester the other day was killed in los angeles. of course you have to be extremely concerned that we have potential flash points all over the u.s. and beyond on our campuses, today at ucla, and i think there's a lot of blame to go around. the universities are not doing their job and you should know that today was kristallnacht, the -- or 1000 synagogues were destroyed in one night. the united kingdom had us a 31% increase in jewish hate crimes week after. francis had 1000 cases. germany had 2600 hamas related hate crimes. there is an unbelievable amount of emotion that is out there and i think that what everybody has to understand is to stop all of these terrible things is for these hostages to be released and one hamas will give up, that will be the end of the shooting. but in the meantime they have used schools as launching sites, they take nine months old jewish babies and entire families of palestinians, do whatever they have to do to protect their leaders who are hiding underneath the hospitals. so i would just say that what i looked at last night as a parent and grandparent, at a time, it took place on the happiest day of the jewish calendar, on the sabbath, is really beyond the pale. i will say, at least my personal view, i never thought i would ever say such a thing, but hamas in a way is worse than the not sees. because they worked very hard to erase evidence of their crimes against humanity, hamas has lived streamed them. this is a whole new ball game and, as i said, my heart goes out to the innocence, but israel has no choice. they can't be the next round, when these people can come into people's homes and just burned them, shoot them, i won't say the rest of it. it was a very tough 43 minutes and, as i said, my heart goes out. you were there with this gentleman in the studio. we need peace, but we will get peace the day after hamas is eliminated. >> rabbi abraham cooper, i appreciate you sharing all of that. i also just want to say i do appreciate you extending your condolences to your previous guest, i think the problem here, so many people don't see the validity in each other's pain and suffering and i appreciate you sharing that as you shared what you saw last night. >> if i could say just one very quick thing. there will be peace, we were involved in the events leading up to the abraham accords. and arabs are not, they do not have to be lifetime enemies. we need new leadership, and when we get there will be peace. >> they certainly do not have to be lifetime enemies. thank you so much, rabbi, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> up next for us as stunning a ward. 35 years later. ♪ ♪ ♪ in a crisis caused by a terrorist massacre. warning civilians to clear out, while hamas forces them back. allowing in food and water, which hamas steals.