generational divide. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. when it comes to supporting israel, america is seeing a significant split. thousands protesting in d.c. today to demand both a cease-fire in the israel/gaza war and an end to usaid to israel. in many cities on many campuses, missing person-style posters created by is raraeli artists. isaac hertzog wrote this. professors and students at american colleges make speeches and sign statements justifying terrorism, even glorifying it. and then it would have been unthinkable to hear such moral confusion uttered after the september 11th attacks or after bombings in london, barcelona, and baghdad. so what's different this time. >> why the troubling rise in anti-semitism? data suggests it's generational. by way of example, new polling by quinnipiac notes half of the voters in the u.s. respond to is reeling's attack and 35% disapprove. among voters 18 to 34, those numbers flip. 32% approve, 52% disapprove. among 18 to 34-year-olds that a number basically doubles to 19% and only 55% of them blame hamas. the founder and ceo of another poll harris s. blamed some of gen z's opinions on its relatively unin about formed views of the conflict. some say they don't have aor clear distinction. last month a berkeley law professor outraged some of the campus with this op-ed in "the wall street journal." don't hire my anti-semitic law students. in it he recounts that last year the student organization, justice for palestine, asked other groups to adopt a bylaw that bans supporters of israel from speaking at events and is 11 other students adopded it. it's part of a broader avenue that made last week's massacre possible. it's shameful and has been tolerated for too long. it's time for the adults to take over. that includes lawmakers looking for graduates to hire. in response, more than 200 alumni signed an open letter to the law school's dean who will join me here in just a moment. he's a constitutional law scholar who happens to be jewish. the letter urged him to publicly speak on the harm and uphold freedom of speech for all students. he sent an email affirming the school's commitment to freedom of speech even though others find it deeply offensive. a couple of weeks later, perhaps he changed his mind, in which he says nothing prepared me for the anti-semitism i see on college call poss now. he wrote these words. i call on my fellow eun voergts administrators to speak out and denounce the celebrations of hamas and the blatant anti-semitism that's being voiced. just this past wednesday, more than two dozen major lawmakers. sents out letters. it said this. educators at institutions of higher learning, it's imperative you engage your students with tools even on emotionally charged issues in a manner that afirms values we all hold dear and objects unreservedly that which is antithetical. there's no room for anti-sechl tichl. islamophobia or any other form of hatred or bigotry in your workplaces or communities. i want to know what you think. answer today's poll question. shoulda student's political speech be consideringed by perspective employees during the hiring process. the dean joins me of the uc berkeley school of law. his latest book "worse than nothing." professor, great to have you back. here's the question. where is the line? today there are these large protests. is it defensible to march for palestinian rights? is it defensible to burn an american or israeli flag, and what about abdi kaeding from the river to the sea? >> all of that is protected by the first amendment. the preem court said there's a right to burn the american flag. there's also a right to burn the israeli flag. all of this is speech protected by the first amendment. >> okay. a colleague of yours suggested to perspective employees that they ask students to what organizations have you belonged. is that an appropriate question? >> i don't think it ee as appropriate question when it ee put that way. solomon has the right to express his views, but they're not the views of the law school. we're committed to helping every student find a job. >> i reference the letter that was sent to the law of deans, so-called big law. i'm sure you're familiar with it. i read one paragraph aloud. what's your take on that? >> i certainly agree with the lawmakers in condemning anti-semitism and condemning is lamg phobia. i'm not sure from the letter what the law firms are asking the law schools to do. >> well are you concerned at all about chilling speech on campuses, i mean blatant anti-1e78 tichl, i would argue, needs to be called out and perpetrators of it held accountable. we could have a conversation. i guess with could have a conversation about what that actually looks like. at what point do the law schools go too far and students feel they can't show up on campus for learning purposes? >> studentses can say what they wish, but law firms can decide the certain views is not what they want within their firm. imagine in a student were in reality or on a blog to express horrible white supremacist views. the student has the right to express. students have the right to free speech rights but law schools can't protect them from the consequences of their action. >> does my analysis, the subject of the polling data on the subject of generational divide, does that comport with your observation and your experience? you've been around students for many, many years. you've an astute observer. >> yes, it very much corresponds to what i see every day within my law school, within my campus, campuses across the country. this is a group of students who believe israel should not exist and agree with hamas and those who think hamas is terrorists. >> how much is due to the misunderstanding of the facts on the ground? i shared at the start of the program a quote from an individual who runs one of the polls who says he's not so sure they distinguish properly being supportive of palestinian rights and the actions of hamas on 10/7. how do you see that? >> i very much agree with that statement. i think my students who celebrate what hamas did equate hamas with palestinian rights, and i think there is generally among the students a lack of historical awareness. this week was 100th anniversary of a declaration that said there would be a jewish state where israel is located. my guess is my students haven't hard of the balfour declaration. >> you spoke of your own experience and some of the anti-semitism to what you've been exposed. expand on that. >> i've certainly seen in my school and on campus a celebration of what hamas did. also yesterday there was an instagram post of me in military makeup saying i've taken an indefinite leave from law school to join the idf. i held a town hall which i had previously scheduled. students said to me is the only way to get rid of the law school was to get rid of the zionists in the law sool, to which i took as get rid of the israelis in the law school. >> how do you deal with that? >> deal with it directly. i said i consider myself a zionist since i support israel. many students said they wish they had spoken out from the vierngts but it was difficult. i don't want anyone to get the impression that the viewpoint of that representative is the feeling of most or even a minority of students. >> how are you answering my poll question today? shoulda student's political speech be considered by perspective employers during the hiring process? >> the difficulty i have depends what the political speech is. if it supe pressed white supremacy, i think students celebrate what hamas did on october 7th. i understand why lawmakers want to consider that as well. also i wouldn't want lawmakers to decide who they hire based on support of biden and trump. >> professor, appreciate your sentiments as always. thank you for being here. he just answered the poll question of the day. it's a binary question. go vote. shoulda student be considered by perspective employers with what his perspective is? it's not about the political or religious beliefs of an employee, but if the beliefs will disrupt the operation of the workplace says ed hundley. by the way, ed, i don't think is a conversation limited to big law. right? where is the line of when it matters? keep voting. i'll give you the votes as they stand at the end of the hour. up ahead, dehumanization. that's what nicholas kristof said he saw on the ground in israel, the worst he's ever seen. and with prime minister benjamin netanyahu reportedly rejecting u.s. pleas for a humanitarian cause calls for a long war, which christopoph h says will l makeke things woworse. nichcholas kriststof will jojoin just a momoment. it is real despite calls in the humanitarian pause to allow relief to the citizens of gaza. prime minister benjamin netanyahu said there would be no cease-fire until the hostages are released. cnn says officials are looking at a new phase in which is reeling decreases the increase of the air campaign and focuses more on a ground tactical operation. joining me now is my next guest nicholas. i'm looking at the front page of "the new york times" "above the fold." the headline is the conventional wisdom. israel rebuffs blinken's plea for war pause, but now i'm going to put up on the screen what axios is reporting. what actually took place is this, that blinken had a message according to one u.s. and two israeli officials, we don't want you to stop, but help us help you get more time. how do you read the tea leaves? what do you think really is being said between american representatives and the israelis? >> so maybe not surprisingly i can't think that the "times" got it right. i think that the white house and tony blinken have felt increasing pressure and have wanted to have a genuine humanitarian pause. you know, not some kind of a lasting cease-fire, but some period where people would be able to move out of northern gaza safely. i think they'd like to see more fuel imports into gaza, some relief partly to take the pressure after of israel and off of the united states for its role in this, and i think, you know, benjamin netanyahu, you know, pretty much stiffed tony blinken pretty directly. >> in other words, you're suspect of the alternative version, which is this is becoming a domestic issue in the united states, maybe 100,000 in washington, d.c., today. so publicly the administration, you know, tries to put guardrails on the israeli ground incursion, but privately ly sa we understand. nicholas krisst of, a little suspicion of that analysis. >> yeah, i am. i do think the administration would welcome a humanitarian pause at this point. my read of it was that president biden was really very, very deeply moved by the october 7th acts and by what hamas did and that lined up so directly that they kind of tried to walk it back and they've been moved by the extraordinary scenes from gaza and i think they were struck by the outrage from cairo and jordan, et cetera, and the leaders to meet with president biden. so i think they've been trying to be a little more balanced in their approach. i think that's part of the reason for the call for the humanitarian pause. >> i highlighted something you wrote recently. quote, i don't think this is politically sustainable for israel or morally sustainable for america as we provide weapons to kill and maim civilians, nor will it protect israel. expand on those words. >> look, you know, what happened on october 7th was a catastrophe, it was a war crime. the response in israel's interest and morally is not to engage in war crimes to rye pay war crimes, and israel has every right to go after hamas, but right now what we've seen in gaza is entire blocks being leveled in a way that is not -- you know, not surgical at all. the u.n., last i saw, lost 72 staff members. a child is being killed in gaza on average for more than three weeks now once every ten minutes. you know, the idea is this is going to go on for months and months. i don't think that that is morally appropriate. i don't think that that is protecting israel. and i think it is right for the biden administration to put pressure on israel to try to take in a more surgical approach directed at hamas rather than taking out entire city blocks. >> in 1982, a younger nicholas kristof, backpacks through the middle east and meets men. you write about this. it's a really compelling piece. you enjoy their company. they enjoy yours. 40 years later, you wonder if they're alive. you find them, track them down, and just spoke with them. thankfully everybody is still alive and healthy. what did you learn? >> it was really poignant. i had had no communication with these guys, but found them, we had lunch together, they invited me to visit their refugee camp where i visited their homes originally. and what struck me was that they had been full of ambition, full of hope, and over the years over the decades they'd lost that. they both hoped to engage in graduate school abroad and neither was able to do that because of crackdowns, getting exit permission from the west bank. they originally had been able to drive, you know, to the beach in tel aviv, travel all around, and because of understandable security concerns, and there were suicide bombings. so barrier was put up. check points were put up. now mahmoud can't easily go visit his doctor still on the west bank to get to them. i had to drive, take an israeli taxi, leave it at a berm, walk over it, and take a palestinian taxi. i couldn't even get into the camp this time. they conveyed a sense of hopelessness for themselves, for their kids, their grandkids that i think is -- i felt very appoint yabltly was a real loss of freedom, of dignity, of sense of purpose, and i think in many ways it's derivative of a larger strategy of what's happening to palestinians and underlines it. >> i'm going to put in my social me media. it's a must-read. thank you for coming back. we appreciate it. more social media reaction now, katherine. what do we have from the world of x, i believe. why are we calling for a cease-fire when we should be demanding a release of the hostages? are innocent civilians any less civilian to you simply because they're jewish? i hope, alana, it's not directed at me. i agree with you not enough of the conversation has been hostage-driven. that needs to be a priority. and i hope they're all alive and safe and come back. i want to remind you, make sure you go to smerconish.com and ansz the poll question. shoulda student's political speech be considered when being hired by a prospective employer. up ahead, ai for good. this week we saw it build a new beetles song. but i'm more concerned about the potential like a story in new jersey where the boys used ai to make deep fake nudes of their classmates. i'll talk about that with one of the teens whose image was altered. later, sign up for some work. you'll see award-winning car ka toons from cartoonists like jack ol'man. check that out. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. to me the biggest story about ai this week was not the president issuing an executive order to curtail it or the meeting on capitol hill with elon musk and mark zuckerberg trying to get a handle on it or how it was utilized to finish that new beetles song. instead it was the story out of new jersey about how male students at the westfield high school were sharing fake nude photographs of their fellow female students doctored from actual photos using ai. there are current will i no federal laws in the united states against the creation of sharing nonconsensual deep fake pornography. a recent study found the number of pornographic deep fakes online doubled every six months from 2018 to 2020 and 90% are sexually explicit and feature women who didn't consent to the videos. the incident in westfield took place over the summer, but officials only learned about it on october 20th. the school implemented an investigation and sent out an email asking if a parent or guardian things that child is affected by it to call the local police. others saw it as a forgivable youthful transgression. the school said we're not able to provide specific details on the number of students involved and any disciplinary actions imposed as those matters are dep chal. one of those students is a 14-year-old francesca and her mother daroda. francesca, thank you for being here. sorry this happened to you. how did you learn of it? i read "the wall street journal" piece that said on a particular day in school the boys just started to act weird. >> yes. so the day before i found out, no girl knew it was happening but we knew the boys knew something. and the next day i was called down to the principals office to be confirmed as one of many students of the ai incident, and i'm not going to lie, after i left the office, i was crying. as i was walking the hallways, i saw a group of boys laughing at a group of girls who were crying. that's when i realized i should. be sad. i should be mad. i came home and told my mom, we should do something about this. this is not fair to the girls and this is not okay. >> francesca, correct me if i'm wrong. i don't think you've seen the images. do you nevertheless know how many girls were similarly victimized and do you know who was responsible? >> i know who was responsible, and it has been rumored that there are over 34 girls to be involved in this. >> mom, daroda, i going to put something on the screen from "the wall street journal" piece and i'll ask for your reaction. i'll read it out loud. it says the following, even among parents, there are no repercussions. others deemed it a youthful transgression that should be forgiven. how do you see it, daroa? >> listen, i've heard it over and over, boys will be boys, girls will be girls. that being said there's right and wrong, legal and illegal. in this situation, you know, there were some boys or boy -- that's to be, you know, determined -- who created without consent of the girls inappropriate images. at the same time when this transpired -- i'm speaking from francesca's history, there were a multiple of boys who reached o it to support her to say, listen, how can we help you? this is not okay. we feel so bad. what can we do to make it better? many of them walked her home. yes, boys will be boys, but there's also right and wrong, legal and illegal. >> francesca, do you think this should be best dealt with by the school or local law enforcement, the police? >> i think it should be both. i think the school should contribute to helping make all the girls more comfortable in our school because so many girls don't feel comfortable knowing that he's walking our hallways, and i also think there should be a law inputted against ai to protect everyone from this. >> so, francesca, if you know who was responsible, i presume that others in school know this is the guy. has anything happened to him as far as you know so far? >> not really. not really, no. >> daroda, has there been any communication among the parents, meaning of the girls victimized and the parent or parents, whatever the situation may be, o of the young man that you believe may be responsible for this? >> absolutely. multiple of mothers reached out to me, only the ones who were outraged in the way of how it was conducted, the investigation, and how they're treated, this incident. also the moms of previous incidents who were brushed off and not taken seriously. nobody's listened to them, so i listened to them. i had no contact with the other side. know the name. the principal told me. there could be a multiple of boys. esper is the westfield leader, but none of those parents contacted us. >> francesca, has the boy apologized to you? >> no, he has not. >> hmm. what would you do if he did? >> i don't know. i think i would stay quiet and -- i don't think -- i don't think it's right what he did. >> right. well, it's indefensible what he did, right? >> yes. >> you know, but if i may add something. i'm so proud of my dart. she's advocating for herself and the other girls. she's urging me to make sure there are other laws in place for new jersey. so they're making sure whatever is right now on the table will be pushed this november, making sure that new jersey children are safe. she also wrote a letter to president biden asking him to urge other governors to make sure there are laws in place to protect our children. i think this issue is more complex than just westfield high school, and this is our time and opportunity to treat it as a teachable platform, to shed the light on this important issue. >> francesca, good luck to you. thank you, dorota. checking in, katherine, what do we have? pornography has damaged young minds and screwed of plenty of adults too. >> i mean it's too prevalent. it used to be hard to find. now it's just the touch of a button. it's impacted the relationships and expectations of young men because it's so widely available that i have an unrealistic expectation of what life's always about. still to come, if the gop captures both houses in virginia on tuesday, governor glenn youngkin could be empowered to pass his proposed 15-week abortion plan. one key race pits one against another. she made national news after she streamed sexual acts with her husband online. will that scandal ultimately hurt or help her candidacy and her party's hope for the state? i want to remind you to go vote. tell me, shoulda student's political speech be considered by prospeck active employers during the hiring process. please subscribe. you can check out this cartoonist. check that out. reliably blue, many are looking to old dominion for signs of what's to come nationally in to 24. this tuesday is election day, although it's an off-cycle election year in terms of national politics. it's become just as impactful on where the country is heading, which is why 538 is calling virginia maybe the most important. an unprecedented $46 million was raised by both parties last month. all 140 seats in the virginia legislature up for grabs. the senate where the democrats hold a slim lead and the house of delegates. a sweep would clear the way for gof governor glenn youngkin who won by more than a half. one key race in the state, the 57th house district. it made national news for an unusual reason. the candidates are republican david owen former home builder and democrat suzanna gibson, a nurse practitioner. the race was up when she performed sex acts with her husband with live online audiences requesting they pay them. she says it's an invasion of privacy and the worst gutter politics. her attorney told cnn sharing the videos violated the state's revenge porn's statute and many women with support her. there were fliers capitalized the scandal, labeled explicit material, warning do not open if under the age of 18. inside were sensored quotes and screen shots from gibson's livestream. she's been out can advancing even in the snow. will all of this hurt or help her and the party's hopes to block the gop takeover. joining me to discuss is charlotte rene woods, state politics reporter. let's talk about the state generally. what are the issues that seem to be generating the most interest? >> it depends on which political party you ask. i think something that goes across totally non-partisan is concerns about inflation. we're all feeling the ruse of cost of living, gas, groceries. that's obviously on voters' minds this year. there's obviously no one magic wand. abortion is as you mentioned a very big one. democrats have vowed to protect our current state law, which allows most abortions up to 26 weeks and bans abortions afterward, and then the republicans have largely coalesced around glenn youngkin's abortion plan to have limited exceptions. so those are kind of the two of the biggest things. and then also partisan control because as you mentioned all 140 seats are on the ballot, but only a dozen are truly included to represent owens' and gibson. usually i feel like presidents they'll boost governors in congress but not necessarily statehouses. that just shows the national attention that virginia has. >> charlotte, how has gibson been? how visible has she been, knocking on doors? has it helped oer hurt her? >> she definitely laid a little low. but she's been out and about canvassing. she popped up at an event with senator lucas who's the pro tempore, second most powerful woman in the senate behind the lieutenant governor. and right after the news broke, louise lucas immediately was is up is porting and tweeting about gibson. gibson has been running ads. she's been stressing her plan to loyer drug costs, protecting current abortion law. she aligns with a lot of oher party on environmental protections, lgbtq protections. so, yeah, she's been out and about, but it's been a little more subdued, yeah. >> another journalist samantha willis from the virginia mercury, the question is why should it mat their this married mom engauged in consensual sex with her husband and invited ores to watch online. there's nothing ill lyle about livestreaming sexual acts and there's no coercion into doing so. i feel more than a whiff of misogyny. sadly women appear to be some of the chief water bearers. the question is one of people saying this was poor judgment on her part, soliciting tips for the acts being streamed. on the other hand, that opinion i just shared with you is one that says she's the victim here and she, of course, claims she's a victim of revenge porn of sorts. how do you think it comes out? >> i actually explored in my own article shortly after the news broke. i spoke with some political analyst, gender study professors who think there's a bit of a double standard. plenty of men have weathered sex scandal storms. she's not the first, won't be the last. democrats have told me in this modern technology era, there's going to be more candidates down the line in the future who have chat erfans. and it's a unique thing. it's consensual sex online. she's campaigning to be a public figure. it's out there. >> am i being melodramatic if i say given the thin margin in the house of delegates, like control of the state legislature in virginia could be determined by this race in the 57th? >> perhaps just because it's among a dozen races that will -- any single one of these dozen races could be one of the flipable deciding votes on partisan control of each chamber, whau the republicans will be able to achieve, the democrats will be the brick wall especially in the senate right now. so, you know, i think for voters at this point, they're probably more concerned if you have an "r" or "d" behind your name. a lot of people will be turned off, may have to overlook it. some people actually will probably see her as more relatable and probably vote for her because of this. and as you mentioned from the samantha willis editorial, the sexism and double standards. >> something to keep an eye on for tuesday night. thank you so much. appreciate you being here, charlotte. >> thank you for having me. quick sobel cial media resp. she wanted to have it. own it. it's used in a way as revenge porn. i don't believe nene polls on this. you don't poll in a virginia house delegates race. so if there were data out there, i still wouldn't believe it because it's one of those circumstances when people go and close ta curtain, then they're going to vote their conscience on this, and then we're going to finding out. it would be very interesting to see the results. >> still to come, the pinal poll results at summerconishsmerconi. when you're there, sign up for the newsletter. great cartoonist including a two-time pulitzer winner, steve green. by the way, take a close look at the ball, reminiscent of our youth, right? 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by the same token, political speech would also mean, hey, who did you vote for are in 2020, and that's where i agree with your point about the slippery slope. quickly, one more social media reaction. sorry it took up so much time. perhaps the generation is divided because older folks have lived through decades of this conflict and younger folks, just think they know everything because they have seen it on tiktok. no doubt tiktok is having a big influence on american youth and how they see the middle east. we want to welcome our new veteran saturday colleague starting with today's premieres, we will be followed in the morning by the chris wallace show, 10:00 a.m. even, and christianne amanpour hour. catch with them online. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network.