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Hospital in gaza city. This hospital is vital to the northern part of gaza. The explosion in gaza was caused by an Islamic Jihad rocket that was misfired. These images are having a huge impact across the region. These protests are only going to get larger. All of that made the president s planned summit in amman, jordan, effectively untenable. President biden is meeting with netanyahu at length. It appears as though it were done by the other team, not you. Good morning, everyone. Very significant day on the world stage. Im poply harlow with phil mattingly. Clarissa ward and Kaitlan Collins on the ground in israel and President Biden is at a volatile moment in the war between hamas and israel after an explosion at a hospital killed hundreds of innocent civilians. Officials there claim it was an israeli air strike but israel insists it was a misfired rocket that was launched by Palestinian Militants, Islamic Jihad near the hospital. President biden appeared to take israels side. Listen. Im deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday. And based on what ive seen it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you. But theres a lot of people out there not sure, so we got to overcome a lot of things. Shortly before Air Force One landed, the military laid out photos that blames it on the Islamic Jihad group. A wave of antiisrael protests erupted in cities across the middle east in lebanon, hundreds of protesters tried to break through Security Barriers near the u. S. Embassy. Police fired tear gas and Water Cannons to drive them away. Team coverage of correspondents on the ground in israel and across the region and start with erin burnett live in tel aviv. What is President Biden walking into today . Reporter incredibly volatile and those images you just showed from across the middle east say it all. That is the situation here and that the heightened tensions youve got in beirut calls for a day of unprecedented rage ahead because of what happened at that Gaza Hospital and because of the anticipation of israel launching a broader assault on gaza. Incredibly tense moment and as you know part of the reality and problem is President Biden was walking in thinking he was going to be able to show he was meeting with the israelis as well as with arab leaders including the leader of the palestinians. That meeting, of course, was canceled because of the hospital attack, so while he says hell be speaking to them on the airplane that is a huge blow to what his efforts are here and it is you really cant underestimate the significance of the fact that those people and images you saw it was after dark when that hospital was struck. It was hours later. 11 00, 12 00 a. M. , 1 00 a. M. , 2 00 a. M. When we saw those protesters come out all through the night. It wasnt as if they woke up and decided to do it. They got up and went out in that moment and should give you a sense of the passion here. Overnight israel not only spoke at a Press Conference but also provided images that they say is proof they did not that was not a strike from israel. Can you walk through what they are putting out there . Reporter yes, and ill show you guys, first of all, they are putting out documentation they say proves that they did not do this. They are saying, for example, basic things that when you have an israeli strike, it is followed by craters, right, theyre saying craters. These werent here. The rocket actually came from a group called the Islamic Jihadist group from a cemetery right next to the hospital. It launched there and failed. This he say because it was so close, the large blast is actually evidence not of its power but of its short trajectory and can still see the rocket has a lot of propellant fuel so obviously didnt travel far. This is the arlingtonment theyre laying out and literally are putting out pictures they took from a drone and also are putting out audio of what the idf claims are terrorists talking about the misfire. I should say cnn cant independently verify what caused the explosion or the authenticity of that exchange but i will say they put this out, they even put out a map here showing how many misfires they say have happened since the beginning of this war. Now 12 days ago. 450 failed launches by jihadist groups in the grassley strip. Theyre putting all of this out. The question is when you look at those pictures of people on the street does it matter to those individual, no, because they believe it was israel in the eyes of the International Community. Maybe this does make a difference but in the eyes of the streets, no. I want to go to Cnn International correspondent Clarissa Ward in ashkelon. The Hospital Blast to that point is a huge inflection in this already tense war. President biden now on the ground. What is your biggest takeaway at this hour . I mean, theres no question this feels like a water shed moment in this conflict. Weve been talking to doctors on the ground. Some of whom were at that hospital. They say that on october 14th, there were two israeli hits very close to the hospital. They also said that they received a phone call the day afterwards from the idf telling them that they should evacuate from that hospital. Theyre using that to bolster their argument and their conviction that this was, indeed, an israeli strike. They point to the fact that they do not believe that a Rocket Attack would cause that kind of damage, would cause that kind of death toll. They also have been describing just gruesome scenes, erin, some of which we have seen borne out this videos of the horror of the aftermath of this explosion. Body parts strewn across the entire area. They said that basically people had been taking shelter in the Al Ahli Baptist hospital sleeping in tents in the garden of the hospital. This is a common thing during times of heavy bombardment in gaza. They flock to hotels and hospitals and believe those areas are largely safe and set up camp there and wait for the situation to improve. Obviously in this case were seeing now hundreds dead. It is still unclear what the exact number is, the efforts to try to sift through the wreckage and identify how many people have been killed continues, but at this stage as you say the focus now is very much on the reaction, on the fact that for many arab states this is now becoming a National Security issue in their own countries, because people are horrified. People are angry. People want revenge and they are taking to the streets and we have seen protests erupting all throughout the region. So, this becomes a real challenge, as well, even for allies of the u. S. , i think thats partly why you have seen arab leaders cancel this meeting with President Biden because it just becomes too difficult for them to be seen as tacitly endorsing anything coming from the u. S. Or israel in this very, very contentious moment. One other thing to mention, the u. N. Secretarygeneral has come out and said, listen, there needs to be an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. So far no indication that that might be in the works. We have been hearing heavy strikes continuing throughout the morning, erin. All right, clarissa, thank you very much. As you point out, that King Abdullah of jordan, someone close to President Biden, longtime relationship, a friendship and the fact that he is still because of what is happening at home and in this region unable to have that meeting, these are significant things. Kaitlan collins is here with President Biden who will be speaking soon. We heard biden appearing to agree with israel, right, and that they were not responsible for the deadly Hospital Explosion is significant. It seemed he went further than his National Security officials so how significant is this, what he exactly said . Well, he went further than what he said before departing the United States to head here to tel aviv and just arrived here. Had not been on the ground for very long, erin and greeted the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and made his way at this hotel where he is having his slate of meetings that he is having while on the ground here in israel and it was one of the first comments he made and it was incredibly significant, because the president took the time as he was seated oneonone there with netanyahu with their National Security officials by their sides to say that based on what he has seen he said it was the other team, he specifically said not you, referring to the israeli Prime Minister. Of course, that is greatly significant because he is endorsing israels denials, that they are responsible for the explosion that happened at that hospital in gaza. Now, israel has denied it. You have seen Palestinian Authority plame the Israeli Defense forces saying they are to blame and israel strongly denied that so it is significant to see the president coming out and saying that but what ill note he said the other team, which, of course, raised a lot of questions of what specifically he was referring to. We asked him those questions. I was in the room as he was having this meeting with the Prime Minister. He did not clarify, of course, that and the other big question is, what it is that he has seen that has led him to endorse these denials by israel that it was them who is responsible for that explosion at that hospital in gaza. He had only just been on the ground here for a very short period of time and had not had any meetings behind closed door with Israeli Government officials but had been on Air Force One traveling with his own National Security team, his National Security adviser Jake Sullivan in the room so that is still a key question here. Of course, that is going to be something that is hanging over this entire trip as the president is moving forward, a trip i should note is looking a lot different than what the white house thought it was going to even just 24 hours ago. I mean hell be here. Hes about to have a meeting shortly with the newly formed wartime cabinet and meeting with the families of victims, the families of hostages, First Responders who were there on that horrific day here in israel as that attack unfolded. Of course, he is not going to be on to jordan to have meetings with those other world officials. That is incredible significant and certainly a setback to what the president was hoping to do, but key questions still remain of what the deliverables of this trip will look like. Is it humanitarian aid . Is there a certain as they were trying to ward off this turning into a bigger regional conflict, those are the key questions that remain this morning. All right, Kaitlan Collins, thank you very much. With all of those details and so many questions about what this meeting may or may have. Phil and poppy, it is not what they expected, not what they wanted but it is what they have. It is a very different moment to kaitlans point. A lot of significant and consequential issues for the president to address behind the scenes with the Prime Minister and his war cabinet but those are live pictures in tunisia. A real escalation of protests across the region, all as the president is on the ground in israel. Well continue with our team coverage. Up next well dig deeper into what the idf claims caused the Gaza Hospital and who theyre blaming it on. Live pictures of smoke rising over gaza. Smoke rising over gaza is now every single day. It puts the Hospital Strike in context, such horror happening, perhaps unavoidable in a situation where there is such bombardment coming in and efforts of bombardment coming out all day every single day. The thuds felt all around, even here and just hours ago a spokesperson for the Israeli Military held a News Conference so they are putting out, putting out their cards on the take, blaming the Gaza Hospital Explosion on the palestinian Islamic Jihad. It is different than hamas. It is, though, however, the second Largest Armed group in gaza. The explosion of the Al Ahli Hospital was caused by a rocket that was misfired. Hamas checked the reports and understood it was an Islamic Jihad rocket that had misfired and decided to launch a Global Media Campaign to hide what really happened. All right. A News Conference all of this information, you were there in that room. They feel the need to make their case, and point by point, what did you hear . Yeah, they certainly do feel the need to make their case. I think they would do it regardless whether or not President Biden was arriving here but certainly there was a greater sense of urgency because the president of the United States was arriving after this horrific bombing of this hospital in which hundreds of civilians are believed to have died and making their case in a number of way, providing a lot of intelligence that they say that they have gathered, both conversations with hamas militants and also pointing to some of the facts on the ground, one of the key pieces of information they said that bolsters their claim this idea that there was no crater on the ground. But amid all of this, we have already watched as the arab world in particular has already made up their minds about the situation and that is something that israel is certainly fighting against and fighting against it because they have had a Credibility Problem in the past including with the killing of the journalist last year when the Israeli Government initially claimed it was Palestinian Militants and not Israeli Soldiers who fired on her. I asked the idf spokesman that question. Among other incidents the Israeli Government initially claimed it was armed Palestinian Militants who killed the journalist which we know is not true so why should the world trust you now . Because of the porches of credibility, we took the time, took us more than five hours, we wanted to doublecheck everything, make sure were credible. Again, we wanted to doublecheck everything and make sure were credible opposed to the other events that you mentioned. So he says were taking the time to be credible this time, right . Acknowledging almost that they have had a Credibility Problem in the past acknowledging there are times where they have not been credible, right . Absolutely, absolutely. Although and i understand time is of the essence. Five to six hours theyre saying is a lot of time but im not exactly sure its not a lot of time. With the journalists killed in Southern Lebanon we dont have an official idea of response amid allegations because of idf shelling on them so they pick and choose their moments. When they want to put out information and make their case. Jeremy has all this too. What they show is what we know already but they have complete surveillance of this area. Drone surveillance constantly, right . They actually put out a Trajectory Analysis of every rocket coming in and out at that time. You say how could they know that . They do know that because thats how they activate their iron dome on such specific small locations, right, because they do know Rocket Trajectories and angles and do know that analysis so i think it is significant just to say they are putting this level of granular detail out to support their claim, poppy and phil. Thank you so much. And to the point she made lets bring in Lieutenant General Mark Hertling and kim dozier. Talk about what they laid out and can it be definitive proof. It only goes so far and erin is learning new things out here. Every commander has this chart and this is how the iron dome works. The radar initially gets where the Point Of Origin of a rocket occurs and use that, first of all, to conduct strikes on that area. You want to kill the enemy but it also shows you the trajectory of the round because thats how the iron dome works. You pick up this trajectory somewhere along its route to knock down the rocket. In this case theyve got several rockets coming out of this area on several trajectory, one of them goes right out of the hospital. Or right over the hospital. This is pretty goodest in and of itself but not enough. You have to take a look at the craters that they provided thats what the israelis pointed to right away. Exactly, the first one is the Point Of Origin and aim. This is their Crater Analysis. It hit in this parking lot. The hospital right here and you saw all the burned cars. There were no craters in that area. That means either the rocket exploded over an area or hit a car, set it on fire and the blast had some effect. Just seeing some of the films that were shown this morning there were pockmarks on the side of the building. Thats an indicator of a blast of a rocket, but theres no craters there and the idf to try to make their point is saying, this is what a bomb crater looks like here and here that are coming off of aircraft. The other thing thats important is what i dont think they did say is if the idf is aiming for a hospital with their precision rounds, theyre going to hit it. Theyre not going to hit the parking lot. They are going to hit the building and what youve seen inside of the building with and outside, again, this is the site of the original fire so the round probably hit somewhere in here and then what the idf shows is the hospital here with the fire in the parking lot, so all of these things are pretty good proof of where the round went. Kim, we also know the attribution according to the idf is Islamic Jihad, not hamas. For people who arent as familiar with, i think, the various groups that are in the region in gaza, who is Islamic Jihad . Whats their relationship with hamas . Hamas is the governing body. Its the governing party. Islamic jihad is one of the militant groups that works alongside it, has similar goals and hamas allows it to flourish because its got a following within gaza. So, the problem is, to use President Bidens terms, you believe your team and Islamic Jihad is on the team, so, you know, theres a call for an International Investigation into this, but if hamas knows that this was an Islamic Jihad rocket and the audio that the Israeli Defense forces released seems to indicate that, theres no way theyre going to let investigators in there on the ground to prove them wrong and to prove that it wasnt an israeli munition. So, does that mean, general, that the World May Never get definitive proof . What would definitive proof look like . Youre not going to get it, poppy, because as kimberly just said, you have to do Crater Analysis and pick off the pieces of the rocket that are still in the area. I mean, there are remains of the rocket, little shards and you can tell from that Crater Analysis from that Rocket Analysis where the round actually came from and what kind it was, but unless you get in the area you cant pick that final piece of forensic evidence. And as kim said, you know, to quote mark twain, a lie is going to get around the world before the truth gets its boots on and thats whats happening in the Information Age when you have so much stuff going out online. You cant walk this back based on what we saw in the riots last night. Ongoing right now. Just showed live pictures out of tunisia. Ive been in this situation where allegedly we hit a mosque or a building and you can never counter the bias in the area. These are the live pictures. Kim, you know, to this point, the decision by the president to come out during that spray with Benjamin Netanyahu before their by. Lateral meeting ongoing right now was notable because ten hours prior he put out a statement that did not have a definitive conclusion on responsibility. His team briefed while aboard Air Force One and did not draw a definitive conclusion, own said this is what the israelis are saying and the president in his own way and while reading his notes drew a definitive conclusion, looked at Prime Minister netanyahu and said, it was not you. What do you think happened in those ten hours . I think theyve seen a lot of the Israeli Intelligence and they believe it. They believe that this was an intercept and think from the israeli Point Of View to put out that Audio Intercept is letting everyone who is on that call or radio transmission know we can hear you. Were listening to all of this and theyre going to change their methods of communication so that was a big risk. Biden seems to have believed it but i think he used, yes, his typical folksy language but its curious, there wont be a bite where the american president is saying, i believe the palestinians did this, not the israelis. Its other team, so, yes, he lined up with netanyahu but im sure not in as fulsome a way as the israeli Prime Minister would have liked. You can bet that he will be asked for more on that and more clear statements on that. Thank you. This was so helpful, general hertling and kim, appreciate it. As we were showing you live protests spreading around the arab world in the wake of that blast that killed hundreds at that hospital in gaza, this is biden arriving in israel. Well take you live to amman, jordan, with reaction on the ground. Stay with us. President biden is in israel this morning after the deadly blast in gaza hit a hospital killing hundreds. This is according to palestinian officials. We do know a lot of people are dead, hundreds of people. No yet firm number but it is heartbreaking and horrible and there was horrible injury and death after that blast and so many of those people, people who had sought refuge. That is the reality of the situation and that blast is also sparking mass antiisrael protests across the middle east today starting last night in jordan and continuing through the day today. This jordan local Security Forces were using tear gas to disperse huge crowds near the embassy in amman. Nada bashir is there with more. The president of the United States was going to be going there, right . And it gives people the context of what happened when this Hospital Strike occurred that immediate outpouring in the street in a city where the president was going to go. The anger is has boiled over. Absolutely. We have seen that translated to not only the popular front but diplomatic front as you mentioned. That summit between the leaders of egypt, the Palestinian Authority, jordan and, of course, u. S. President joe biden has been called off. We heard from the Foreign Minister of jordan yesterday saying that their singular focus in holding the summit was to bring an end to the war and bring respite and relief to the Palestinian People inside the besieged gaza strip and jordanian authorities dont believe their International Partners are on the same page at this point in time and cannot ignore the fact its come in response to the horrifying attack on the Al Ahli Hospital and three days of mourning have been declared observed across the middle east and the flag at half mass in response to that attack. We have seen huge protests taking place across the region. These have been going on from the outset of the war particularly in amman where almost half of the population are either palestinian or of palestinian descent across jordan rather so this is a generally cause for many people in this country and have seen huge crowds gathering yesterday towards the Israeli Embassy, some protesters attempting to storm the Israeli Embassy and we are expecting to see even further protests today including one protest which is said to be scheduled outside the u. S. Embassy, of course, the u. S. Being seen as a key ally here to israel and some sense complicit in what many feel are these horrific air strikes happening inside the gaza strip, but i think it is really important to underscore here the outrage that we have seen amongst people across the middle east, i think your Military Analyst described this as bias that is felt in the middle east but i have to say what weve seen from people weve been speaking to is a sense of horror and outrage at the civilian toll that weve seen inside the gaza strip, an area of land under blockade facing a complete siege at this current point in time and i think it is important to underscore that while hamas and, of course, in the eyes of many arab leaders have placed the blame on israel. We know that israel has categorically denied any involvement in this attack placing the blame on Islamic Jihad in gaza for a failed Rocket Launch according to the idf but i think its important to underscore that over the course of more than a week what we have seen is civilian areas inside gaza repeatedly coming under attack by israeli air strikes. Thats not only according to hamas and palestinian authorities on the ground in gaza, thats according to International Rights groups, according to people weve been speaking to, hospital, medical facilities, schools, even evacuation routes said to be safe for people to flee to southern gaza. So you can imagine across the middle east the outrage that is felt and, of course, we are expecting more protests across the region as you mentioned, some are going on as we speak in tunisia and continue to see people taking to the streets and this will only intensify as israels aerial bombardment of gaza continues. Absolutely, an arab bombardment we know will continue, nada, that is the reality we are living and to Nic Robertson live in sderot, israel, where you have been since the very beginning, nic and the white house downplaying expectations for the trip but clear they hoped for much more. They thought they were getting to talk to arab states, as well as the jewish state but thats not happening. What do you think the number one thing is that biden has to accomplish today given the reality of the changed schedule of this trip . Reporter yeah, i think with the all the deaths at the hospital overnight the stakes obviously went up almost when President Biden was in the air and the fact that his meetings with the egyptian president , the king of jordan, the Palestinian Authority president , that was canceled is clearly undermines some of what he wanted to achieve but the big thing he wanted to achieve was to send a very clear and strong message as he has since the beginning that the United States stands with israel and that was a message that was designed to signal to israels enemies in the region be they hezbollah, be they elements in syria, be the iranian leadership, whoever they are to stay out of the fight. Thats been the verbal message and that was the importance of his message here and i think because of what happened in the hospital last night and the perceptions around it, that message is needed even more loudly and thats the one that President Biden has delivered here, very publicly standing with Prime Minister netanyahu. Theres another sort of important part of the context i think when we consider the reaction. The reaction on the streets around the region is a worry for israel but it will be a worry for the king of jordan. It will be a worry for the president of egypt, because Outrage Support of palestinians on their streets is desta destabilizing for them and these are two leaders who depend very heavily on Financial Support from the United States and in a way their populations know that but ignore it but it puts them in a difficult position, as well. When they have to choose the steps that they take, there is the reaction on the street in those countries and then there is what the political leaders do, and i think the bottom line that weve heard signaled from President Biden today is last night was horrendous, horrific, everyone knows it, the pictures are just awful, however, it changes little in the calculus. Israels enemies must hold back and i think it still leaves a door open for what israel wants to do in terms of taking on hamas and thats a Critical Point which may very well be it seems to me the possible possibility of a Ground Incursion remains an open option. Definitely remains an open option, we see that border and everything along it amassed and ready, ready position. Nic, what are you seeing on that front and i do want everyone to understand your location is so close to the border. When these rockets come in, the house next to the one where you were was hit by one of those rockets so thats the proximity with which you are observing this and what are you seeing . Yeah, this town, for example, normal population, 40,000 down to about 4,000 according to local officials, over the past i would say 18 plus hours when there have been incoming rockets from gaza and there were some incoming in the last hour, were not seeing any intercepts, any Iron Dome Intercepts and in the past we were. We are hearing the sirens and that does give the population of about 4,000 people here literally about six or seven seconds to take shelter, almost all houses here have rooms for shelter. There are shelters on the streets, but the streets are deserted, which, i think tells you the situation here. People are very aware of the threat that comes from gaza. It is still an active and real threat and that, of course, gives support and impetus to israels Desire To Go Into Gaza and take out the leadership of hamas. At the same time were continuing to hear heavy drone activity, continuing to hear israeli jet activity and missile strikes on gaza. So, you know, again, going back to the big picture, as terrible as last night was, it depended on the writ large arab street reaction and ability in those countries to maintain stability at home, it seems and also depen dent on irans leaderships reaction, it seems that actually in the broader calculus of whats going to happen, very little has actually changed as horrible as it was, events have yet to fully play out, so we dont have a whole picture, but from statements so far thats what it looks like. Certainly does and, of course, the idf insists this will not affect their planning for what theyre doing in gaza. We shall see. Nic robertson, thank you very much. And the white house, of course, already downplaying expectations for President Bidens visit to israel, which has been further complicated at the least by that booming of a hospital in gaza. Any moment now President Biden will speak again. Well be back. Any minute now President Biden is said to deliver remarks in tel aviv. His visit to israel comes amid deepening tension in the region after a palace killed hundreds of civilians at a hospital in gaza. This morning President Biden seeming to agree with the idea of assessment and the white house downplaying expectations for the president s war zone visit. Lets get straight to our senior White House Correspondent kayla tausche. The big question is what changed from when biden left washington when the white house said they were continuing to investigate who launched what caused this blast to what biden saying with netanyahu saying, it appears it was done by the other team . Do we know if the president got more intelligence or another briefing on the plane . Reporter we dont but we assume, poppy, on a very lengthy Multihour Flight where he directed his National Security team to find new information that perhaps they did obtain new information. We just dont know what that is and reached out to the white house and National Security council to figure out exactly what did transpire overnight and whether anything informed the president s significant shift when he was sitting next to Prime Minister netanyahu this morning where he said that he believed that the Hospital Strike was carried out by the other team and essentially was backing israels assessment of who was responsible for that attack. That is a significant departure from where the president was just before his departure, even though the republican statements did say that they did not know who was behind the attack, im told by my own sources that when advisers briefed the president before his departure that the u. S. Did not even draw a conclusion Behind Closed Doors and at that time were not even certain they could draw one in a timely manner. That being said, they are certainly downplaying the expectations for any deliverables on this visit with a critical cancellation of that summit in jordan. Officials telling me that if the president is able to show his support and solidarity and the solidarity of the broader United States with israel and also send a message of deterrence to other players in the region not to open up a second front in this war, that that would be seen as a success but certainly there are risks associated with this trip. It is an incredibly volatile environment and the u. S. Is inserting itself in this conflict at a time of Asymmetric Information and were still learning more about what exactly that information is thats leading to some of these shifting assessments. Also the fact that he will no longer be speaking he will no be longer be going to amman and speaking with president El Sisi Of Egypt and know how much biden likes facetoface meetings. What does the white house hope to accomplish and what is your report on how disappointed they are that these inperson meetings arent happening . Reporter they always knew it was a possibility that something that was fairly hastily assembled could be just as hastily disassembled given how much is happening in the region but it is fair to say, poppy, it was that forum in jordan and facetoface with leaders where some of those key conversations about humanitarian passage and humanitarian aid were going to be had and without that facetoface conversation, we know the president believes that phone and zoom are no standins for that personal diplomacy. Its hard to see an official say that its also hard to see how anything concrete comes out of it. At least within this very short time frame. Kayla tausche at the white house, thank you very much. This morning were hearing from a doctor in the hospital at the time of the blast and his harrowing experience. I was waiting i just finished one surgery and suddenly we heard a big explosion. We thought it was outside the hospital because we never thought they would bomb the hospital. The people run in the opposite setup screaming, help us, help us. Many people arinred. Many people are dead. Joining us now to discuss is dr. Mustafa, and we appreciate your time. Where are you in ram allah . Weve seen protests throughout the region, certainly a volatile moment in the wake of the explosion at the hospital. How would you describe how people are feeling, how theyre reacting where you are right now . People are very angry, and, of course, nothing can be more embarrassing than a deliberate war crime of an israeli air strike killing civilians and killing innocent children and family. 500 victims and hundreds of others injured who could die at any moment and let me tell you what we believe is that and we urge you to remember the Israeli Military lied to the world on many occasions before changing their stories many times, a very good example of that was their denial of killing Shireen Abu Akleh the journalist and changing their story four times. Today they changed their story three times but the world doesnt notice that. The first time they said that the strike the hospital because there were militants, hamas militants hiding there. Then they said that hamas is taking Palestinian Civilians as shields, human shields, then they said it was jihad and it was a rocket of jihad. I do not believe any of this nonsense because there are many facts here. One fact is that 57 strikes have already taken place against health facilities, hospitals and clinics in gaza. This cannot be denied. Another fact is that they warned the hospital, this was run by the Anglican Church and warned them to leave and evacuate and they couldnt do that because they couldnt leave their patients to die. They also attacked and killed no less than 18 palestinian first aid providers. They also destroyed 23 ambulances with air strikes and most important, the israeli air strikes have already demolished 70,000 houses, whole neighb neighborhoods. I cannot understand how President Biden, the head of the most powerful country in the world, continues to accept lies from netanyahu. Sir, just to i understand i understand your point. I understand what youre saying. I think what we have seen from the idf and to be very clear, my colleague Jeremy Diamond asked the idf at the Press Conference about the lies and changing stories as it relates to the journalist that you referred to. What youre saying are all contextual pieces. What the idf is laying out and what the president was responding to today was specific signals of intelligence, specific tracking of rockets they have documented what they have. I guess my question to you would be, what have you seen that expole po expe explicitly shows that . My people told me the type of air strike theyve seen on this hospital is exactly the same air strike theyve seen in other places. One more fact, in addition to what i said before, one more fact the type of explosion that happened after the israeli air strike is a type that no palestinian rocket could ever have. This wide, huge kind of Explosion Killing 500 people in one minute, this never happened by Palestinian Rockets and any what we ask for, okay, lets have an international, independent Commission Investigating that. To that point do you think an international and independent commission would be allowed to investigate . Would that be something that International Investigators would be allowed on the ground to investigate . Record what i say to you, israel would never allow an International Investigation like they never allowed an investigation of the killing of Shireen Abu Akleh and because you cant have the criminal investigate himself or herself and The Big Question here, why mr. Biden does not call for a ceasefire. How many more palestinians should be killed before we get ceasefire. 3,200 palestinians have been killed so far. Three war crimes are being committed in front of the world. Ethnic cleansing, genocide. I understand what youre saying about the ceasefire and President Biden. But just real quick, i just want to know he is going to speak later today and it is very clear that the United States and from the president that they are not going to call for a ceasefire and i understand your perspective on that. What could the president say outside of that for a regional perspective that would signify to you a positive step forward . You know, with all due respect, i see that President Biden cares only about one thing, which is to be reelected and thats why hes taking the side of israel. Hes believing israeli lies like the lie of decapitation of children which was never verified or the lie of raping women which was never verified and they continue and now this lie that palestinians killed themselves. This is totally unacceptable. He should call for ceasefire immediately to save palestinian and israeli lives. At least he should care about the lives of israeli prisoners who are being bombarded with israeli air strikes now, 22 of them have already been killed by netanyahus air strikes on gaza. This should stop. How many thousands and thousands and thousands of people should be killed and especially children and civilians before israel accepts a ceasefire . Mr. Biden has a responsibility and his responsibility now is immediate ceasefire and let me remind him of the lies that were told about Iraq And Weapons Of Mass Destruction after years everybody admitted it was a big lie that justified the killing of 1 million iraqis. Enough is enough. We dont need another atrocity here. We dont need Ethnic Cleansing of palestinians to egypt. I would note that it was the jordanian summit in amman, the president wanted to meet, that was canceled. Certainly you have a different perspective from what weve heard from the idf. We do appreciate your time, dr. Barghouti. Thank you. Significant questions. President biden is in israel after that blast at the hospital that killed hundreds. He will speak soon. Will he speak about any additional intelligence he may have seen about that blast, up more ahead and youll see the president live right here. Were waiting to hear from President Biden once again this morning. He is going to make some remarks again in tel aviv after we saw him speaking with Prime Minister netanyahu. Well bring that to you live as soon as it begins. As we wait lets bring in our chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour and david sanger, also White House Correspondent National Security correspondent for the new york times. You just heard that conversation, i believe, that phil had and see the live pictures around the world from tunisia to amman jordan, and many, many, many who do not believe in the arab world who do not believe what israel is saying that this was not their strike on the hospital looking at live pictures and now President Biden is there in the middle of all of this with a canceled summit that was hastily arranged in amman, jordan. What comes out of today, and what can the president say, if anything, to calm tension . Well, poppy, phil, this is truly considered by just about everybody an unmitigated disaster, that the president has walked into this terrible, terrible catastrophe thats unfolding in gaza and as you heard from mustafa barghouti, a moderate palestinian who has tried all his life to bring the factions together, there is their narrative based on context and whats happened before, and they do not believe and the street does not believe no matter how much the idf has said they investigated is not believed around the world and that is what is mattering. Thats the narrative. Its not believed and i can tell you that the Israeli Defense minister himself said last week when imposing a siege on gaza, which the International Community says is against international law, he also said, we remove i have orders let me interrupt. I apologize for the interruption. I want to tell people what theyre watching on the screen. It is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking. This is before a meeting between President Biden, Prime Minister netanyahu, and Prime Minister netanyahus War Cab Threat that was put together in the wake of the october 7th attacks. Well listen to both of them. They are expected to give remarks, Prime Minister netanyahu is speaking now. Everything it can to keep civilians out of harms way. We have asked them and will continue to ask them to move to safer areas. Well continue to work with you, l requirements are met and well continue to Work Together to get oumr. President victory will be long and hard. But united in purpose and with a deep sense of justice and the unbreakable spirit of our soldiers and our people, israel will prevail. Thank you, mr. President. Thank you, mr. Prime minister. In the wake of hamas appalling terrorist assault, brutal, inhumane, almost beyond belief what they did, this cabinet came together and standing strong, Standing United and i want you to know youre not alone. You are not alone. As i emphasized earlier, we will continue to have israels back as you work to defend your people. Well continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy to innocent civilians. 75 years ago your founders declared that this nation would be one based on, quote, freedom, justice, and peace, based on freedom, justice and peace. The United States stands with you in defense of that freedom. In pursuit of that justice, and in support of that peace. Today, tomorrow, and always, we promise you. Mr. President [ all talking at once ] thank you very much. Thank you very much. Nothing changes. Okay, you just heard the end of netanyahus remarks there and what President Biden said. With us again Christiane Amanpour and david sanger along with erin burnett and Kaitlan Collins. We missed the beginning. Talk to us about the significance of what was just said and what theyre going into now. Well, you heard practice Prime Minister netanyahu was referring to there. He was talking about civilians in gaza, talking about those warnings that have been issued by the idf to leave Northern Gaza to go to southern gaza, of course, that set off that chaotic scramble from so many people and civilians who felt they had nowhere to go but obviously that is a really big