Indicted for you. With gop voters have second thoughts about making him their nominee. Plus inside of his legal strategy. Weve never had a situation where a spirited debate about the constitution has become a criminal case. Is that trumps strongest defense . And will a federal judge punish him for a threatening post on social media . I dont think this judge or this prosecutor are going to tolerate that. And President Biden is running for reelection on a strong economy. Bidenomics is restoring the american dream. Could he convince voters that his plans are working . Welcome to inside politics sunday, im abby phillips. As Donald Trumps legal peril grows so does his anger at everyone he holds responsible. Last night he unleashed his fury on President Biden an the Special Counsel. Were kicking bidens ass, and that is the problem. And if i wasnt, if i wasnt, we wouldnt be under investigation by der ranged jack smith. Forces put forward by the sham, the sham indictment. And i believe hes mentally ill. Theyre trying to make it illegal to question the results of an election. They go after the people that want to find out what the hell happened. It is a disgrace. And also this weekend, there was this apparent threat on his social media site. If you go after me, im coming after you. Now the Trump Campaign said that was aimed at his political enemies, not prosecutors or potential witnesses. But the Special Counsel did flag it to the judge and said that it raises questions about whether trump could be trusted to look at confidential evidence without publicly disclosing it. Now this morning trumps top Lauer John Laura appeared on all of the major Sunday Morning interviews shows. Trump is now facing 78 criminal charges in three indictments. The latest, of course, is over this plot to overturn the 2020 election. And here is what lauro told our own dana bash on State Of The Union just moments ago. One thing that we are going to do is fight this very, very unusual outside of the bounds criminal prosecution of First Amendment rights vigorously in court. My focus is on addressing the issues. One of the issues that the Biden Administration will have prove Beyond A Reasonable Doubt is that trump had criminal intent when he protested the results of the 2020 election. That is core freedom of speech. There is a lot going on there but lets discuss all of that and more with legal analyst and former analyst, Andrew Mccabe and cnns own Kristin Holmes who has been very busy this week traveling with the Trump Campaign throughout all of this. But as were coming on the air, elliott, this morning, we have another truth social from the former president , one that could some bearing on the case, he writes there is no way i could get a fair trial. Everyone knows this and so does she. We will immediately be asking for a recusal of this judge on very powerful grounds and likewise for a venue change out of d. C. Now the venue change is think is no huge surprisar not a surprise that he wants out this from judge, jung Tanya Chutkan who has been hearing a lot of january 6 cases. Shes a tough judge that was appointed from the Obama Administration and now trump said this. Trump will lose this motion if Tis Attorneys file it. Here is the standard. You could recuse a judge, if there is some factor that means that the judges impartiality might be questioned. That is what the law said. You have to basis right now, based on information in the public record, that said he ought to recuse this judge. She has not issued public statements or worked on campaigns in recent years. Issued rulings that showed a buy as to one party or another. And as you said, the most important fact that shes heard a number of january 6 cases that i think at this point have been held up on appeal. All lets just name what it is. This is a black woman, washington, d. C. Judge from an immigrant family and that is what the judge that is what the former president is going after here. You could dog whistle it a little bit and i think his supporters will hear that. And sort of thinking he has a basis for it. But beyond that there is no basis for removing this judge or out of washington, d. C. For that platter. And trump has a history of taking judges race or ethnicity saying they cant be fair to me. He did that during the campaign in 2016. But on this judge, she has shes heard and sentenced 38 january 6 defendants. Thats quite a lot actually. And in some of the previous rulings, shes been pretty tough. She said here in november of 2021, president s are not kings. This plaintiff is not president. And this is after trump left office. There is also another ruling in 2021 where she said it is been made clear that trying to stop the peaceful transition of power assaulting Law Enforcement is going to be met with certain punishment. So, these are tough statements but theyre also reasonable statements that any judge could make. But you get the sense here that this is not going to be a cake walk. Certainly different from what we might see in florida why trump is facing a judge he appointed. But you dont have the right to have a crim case heard by a judge who voted for you. There is no grounds to seek recusal at it point. Also the number of defendants shes seen who are january 6 defendants, this is d. C. All of these cases are going through here. There is not a judge in that courthouse who hasnt heard a dozen or more of these cases an imposed sentences on those that have been sent to jail. I dont think that fwakt is notable either. With respect to his quite reasonable desire to want to have this heard anyplace other than d. C. , i think hell face a tall order there as well. Its we saw this in the george floyd case. Very hard to go into Federal Court and make the argument that you cant get a fair trial in one city because of the publicity around that issue when the publicity is actually nationwide. There is no place in this country that he could go to have a criminal trial that hasnt heard anything about january 6 or his role in it. So i think there are motions like many in this case that are filed for the purpose of putting them on the record knowing theyre lose them but potentially creating issues on appeal down the road. And we should note that over three dozen january 6 rioters have asked to move their case out of d. C. And not a single one mas moved out of there. It is a tall order. This is where the alleged crimes were committed. Right. So it is what it is. And kristen. As you come in here, as youve been following this so closely, hes really, in the last 72 hours, he is accelerating often his psyche gets put on social media but he had a rally last night. What is going on in his head today. I think there are multiple things going on inside of his head. We know this makes him angry and frustrated ab that is not what he wanted to do be doing. Ant he wants to be president again and that is what he wans to folks on him and it is clear that he is angry. This is a playbook that donald trump has used since 2016. When you look at some of the posted and i dont think we need to get into all of them. Theyre not all about the case. He ak thatted nancy pelosi and her family with outrageous claims. That is what we saw in 2016. It becomes more and more escalated, the more and more he feels like hes getting coverage on it. And that is what hes trying to do right now. I know from people that are close to him from advisers that hes riled up. He was chomping on the bit before heading down to court on thursday. He didnt want to be there, but he also was out there putting messages on social media, getting people spun up and that is part of his playbook, too. Always trying to control his own media narrative. It is riskry. It seems to me that Special Counsel put a flag down saying you do something and were going to take it the courts and see what judge said. John lauro made a point to do what we call the full ginsburg here on Sunday Morning television, he was everywhere. That is what he said on State Of The Union with dana this morning. Youre saying that asking is action. No, asking is aspirational. Asking is not action. It is core free speech. What President Trump did not do is direct Vice President pence to do anything. He asked him in an aspirational way, asking is covered by the First Amendment. So, let me get this straight. If i ask someone to go kill you, im good. Youre not. And hes got a point in so far as any time you start dealing with the First Amendment in any criminal context, it becomes a gray area. And youre going to have to litigate that in front of a court. It is full stop. When you are engaged in a criminal conspiracy, the statements you make could further that conspiracy and the statements you make could be evidence of a crime. So this whole idea that merely because he made statements to or about mike pence, that somehow hes now absolved as a criminal defendant is simply not true and doesnt track with the law. This is the first time hes made that aspirational point, that is the word that it was an aspirational insurrection. The rolling that went out. And inspirational. Defendants charged with conspiracy offenses make this argument every day in Federal Courts around the day and it always fails. Because speech is a intensity piece of that violation. People come in and say you cant punish me for my speech because it is First Amendment protected. There is a all kinds that is not First Amendment protected. You cant defame people and yell fire in a crowded theater and create a danger with we are speech and this is the same. You have to have an act in furtherance to get an conspiracy. You cant get an agreement without speaking to someone and proposing what youre seeking to aco accomplish. One other point. In the indictment they talk about a lot of things that other people, other coconspirators did in furtherance of this election lies. Do they have to now go and prove that trump directed those actions . If youre linking him to the conspiracy, that he or a coconspirators acted, they have to both know what theyre trying to do and alleged in the indictment, both the former president an the coconspirators knew they were trying to disrupt the election and then you need to prove what are called the overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy. So at least as alleged it is there. It is a question of what they could get in front of a jury and how successfully they could prove it. Kristin, trump is the type who doesnt write a lot of stuff down but this will hingetch on words that he said. I would you read the aides and advisers and how he aspirational asked mike pence to not certify the election. Because those are some of his closest allies who did not sound like it was aspirational. It sounded like it was pushed or forced. I would say, as you noted, it is hard. Because up until he left office, he didnt even text. He doesnt do mail or write things down. It is a lot of listening and having other people around him would heard him say things and obviously that is riskier than seeing something with actual notes. And there, of course, some audio tapes that we know about. So well see how that goes. Thank you for being here. Stick around for us. Coming up next, trumps criminal charges, they keep piling up but so do his good poll numbers. 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One from just this week that came out after the indictment shows that hes he is still beating his closest competitor ron desantis by more than 30 points. Now no candidate in recent history with a lead like that has ever gone on to lose the nomination. But no candidate has ever had to campaign with this many ongoing criminal cases either. Lets discuss all of this and more with our panel, alex isenstadt, and Ramesh Ponnuru and still with us is Kristin Holmes as well. This is such an if unusual moment for american politics, but certainly for republican politics. Youve got a candidate, three indictments in and there is one coming very soon, theyre going to be at least two criminal cases happening during the primary. And yet he seems to be the runaway favorite for the nomination right now. Right. And look, there is very little question and you saw the in bes th the numbers there, these are helping trump in the indictment. Hes solidifying and expanding his lead and it is hard to see anyone beating him as of right now. Things could change but hes far ahead. The different question is how does it play out next year, these core cases as the primary season gets underway as we get closer to the convention. How does that impact the calendar and as you say, trump is ahead by a lot in the legal cases are helping him solidify his lead. Hes using the legal cases as Hi Central Argument now. You saw that in his comments last night. Hes talking about persecution, saying theyre going after me, saying hes fighting for these people and framing this in a cultural way. Lets play, before you jump back in, lets play what he said last night. Every time the radical left Democrats Marxist and communities indict me i consider it a truly great badge of honor because im being indicted for you. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. They want to take away my freedom because i will never let them take away your freedom. Hes making it about them. It is an us versus them. Hes continuing in the divisive pol politics of trying to divide people up and it is working. You see when the Republican Voters, a lot of people agree with them and think that these are either they dont believe the charges or they think that these prosecutions are politically motivated. So these arguments are resonating. The cbs poll that just came out shows among republicans 63 say that the indictments investigations are an attack on penal like me rather than 21 say that it is about upholding the rule law. In that kind of environment, there is not a lot of wiggle room there for republican political figures to be on other side of voters in this context. Well, and i think that that is very obviously reflected in the behavior of republican politics, including trumps rivals would have really been weary of frontally taking him on. Of even saying things like you lost the 2020 election. And i think that is one of the reasons that theyve been struggling because theyre in this trap. If they do that, that is going to be unpopular in the shortterm. If they dont do that, then theyre not allowed to make the fundamental Electability Argument which is this guy has already lost. Ron desantis tried, lets put it this way, he tried this week to thread that needle. Here is what he said about the election lies. It is a little bit different from what weve been hearing from him. The election is what it is. All those theories that were put out did to the prove to be true. But what ive also said is the way you conduct a good election and people have confidence in, you dont change the rules in the middle of the game, you dont ballet harvest. It was not conducted the way we wanted to but that is dish than saying maduro stole votes or Something Like that and i i this those theories proved to be unsubstantiated. So did trump lose or not . Yeah. Hes like, almost there. But not quite going there. What do you make of how effective that is . I think it has to be more deliberate, overt and accurate and honest and truthful. Look, you cant say, you condition say well maybe the election was stolen in 2020, maybe it wasnt. But lets talk about the future. If it is actually true, if this false claim were really true, then, of course, it is the top issue. You cant pretend it is not the top issue. Desantis and others unless they take on that argument, they are subverting the rational for another candidacy. And desantis has been all over the map on this. Even if he comes out now and said it wasnt stolen and trump was lying, there was weeks of clips of him saying that he would pardon the january 6 rioters and he changed voting laws in florida while governor because partly to please these republicans who believed that the election was stolen. So were at a point now where even if he does shift his stance,ine if some candidates do, some have gotten out there saying that all of this is not about election fraud, even if they if theyre saying that this case is not going to trial, theyre blaming the doj, theyre saying that there are problems with the election, theyve gotten out there and i dont know how come back from that. And those that have occasionally tried to go after trump or criticize trump have been treated so negatively. And hurd was booed when he criticized trump. Desantis is trying to make iowa really his this is not uncommon thing, for candidates. Ey want to make iowa theyre place. But look at the latest po from the New York Times siena. It has donald trump up by 24 points. Desantis just kind of stuck where he is. Now, the question i would ask you, is what is he doing to change the narrative . But it seems like the answer is this. Hes talking to or planning to talk to the california governor, gavin newsom, debating him, putting out flyers. Help me explain the strategy here. Here is the thing. Is gavin newsom has emerged as a favori favorite punching bag of conservatives and republicans and what desantis is trying to do is turn newsom into a foil in hopes of somehow parlaying that into higher poll numbers in a place like iowa where youre right, hes putting all of his eggs in the iowa basket. The problem with this kind of thing is it looks like a stunt, right. And if he somehow loses to newsom, hes pretty good on his feet, that could be bad for desantis if he falls short in the that debate and could be embarrassing on fox news. So there is potential reward but there is also plenty of risk. Folks of ron desantis will say in addition to the efforts in of newsom, hes spending time in iowa and trying to hit all of the counties and doing the small ball events when someone goes there. But i think there is time if they focus there to make that kind of move there. This week, and this week there was yet another top donor of desantis who came out and said, im hitting the pause button. This is robert bigelow. He said he does need to shift to get moderates. Hell lose if he doesnt. Extremism isnt going to get you elected. I think hes the largest single donor to one of desantiss super pacs. Yeah, so Republican Voters have been polled over the years and asked if how they describe themselves, moderate, conservative, et cetera. Typically in the middle of the Republican Party are the people who call themselves somewhat conservative, not very conservative. And it does seem as though desantis has been overconcentrating on the very conservative voters not on some the somewhat conservative or modder afts and that is one of the reasons that hes in trouble because a lot of them are with trump. 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The United States postal service. Weve never seen a political spat quite like this one. Before he took the stage in South Carolina lt night, donald trump took aim at his former vice prident mike pence in a scathing truth social post. He called pence delusional and not a very good person. He dallas len denied the conversation that he called pike pence too honniest for refusing to over turn the election. Pence has been anything but quiet about the charges hes been on camera all week criticizing his former running mate in the most blatant way weve seen from him yet. Anyone who puts themselves over the constitution should never be president of the United States. Lets be clear. It wasnt just asking tfor a pause. The president and his gaggle of Crackpot Lawyers asked me to reject votes. President trump was wrong then and hes wrong now. A gaggle of Crackpot Lawyers. That is for pence, that is pretty Strong Language about an issue that honestly he has wanted to just side step. That is truem, and this is te far farthest weve seen him go but we were told by Pence Advisers that they would feel happy to debate in public, that they believe pence was on the right side of this and if it comes up time and time again, they will continue to say that. I do think it is harder than that he anticipated. The crowd, hes been getting into spats with other supporters of trump at different town halls, people saying that hes a traitor and he should have done that. I think it is harder to sell that message and now were seeing him respond to that by getting stronger in his language. And hes selling these tshirts an hats that say too honest to reference what we were talking about in the introthere. Here is the challenge. It is hard for him to appeal to the trump base for obvious reasons and it is hard for him to appeal in the party would doan like trump because he served as trumps vp. So what pence is now trying to do is lean on in what he did on january 6. Hes going all in on that in hopes of winning a slice of the republican electorate that he hopes will be enough in some of the primary states. One of the i mean, kristin, you mentioned this, it is hard not just because of the reception from republicans but because mike pence hasnt been will to go the extra next step. This is what he said to dana bash this morning when asked a very important question. You could say right here that youll rule out voting for donald trump again for president . Dana, i will tell you, i dont think well have to make that decision. What if you do . Im confident ill be able to support the republican nominee, especially if it is me. This is a pretty fundamental issue. Yeah, he completely side steps that. And it speaks to another tension for pence this whole time, which hes talking about january 6 and being clear about what he did then but also still wants to run on what he calls the Trump Pence Administration and the accomplishments when he served as Vice President. So it is perhaps impossible line to walk but hes trying to balance at the moment. There is another point that we take for granted which is that it is such a Trump Centric Racech and it is not just that hes leading if the polls, hes leading in the attention economy. And make pence made a statement about Defense Spending and nobody is paying attention to that. Hes in the news when he criticized trump. I think it makes sense as weve been talking about for him to lean into that because january 6, 2021 was dramatically the high point of pences career and maybe this isnt going to work for him but if it works at all, this is the way it is going to work. At the end of the day, this is a week of us hearing from trumps former employees, his former allies, mike pence is only one them. Bill barr was also out today too, and the strength of his indictments, whether it is the january 6 hearings or the indictment that we just saw this past week, it is in all of these people who used to work for trump and he tries to discredit them but will that work. It hasnt yet. It works to discredit them, but it hasnt for those allies to make an impact on the Republican Voters. There is a way that donald trump has in messaging and his team as selling this as The Deep State. These were Mistake Hires and they were part of The Deep State establishment and now, of course, their coming out against me and they want this me to go down or i fired him or i never told him anything and now hes mad at me and that is the messaging he portrays out to voters and that is also what they receive. And i do want to note one thing about pence because i think this is so important, in 2016 he was brought on to Donald Trumps ticket in part to rhelp South Carolina to help secure the Republican Party which is striking when you think about ma happened from 2016 to now. Struggling to hit the 5 mark in some of the polls. Ramesh, i want to talk about something you wrote today about republicans in the senate bringing us essentially to this point by failing to convict trump. Mitch mcconnell back in 2021, ill just say what he said, he said that this was the domain of the criminal system. Was he wrong . Well, you know, were going to see whether the criminal Justice System can hold him or should hold him accountable based on, you know, evidence we dont have yet. But would you say that it wasnt just a Criminal Justice matter. It also was a matter of high constitutional politics and the Impeachment Process is in the constitution to stop high officials who are abusing their power and for one reason or another, a lot of Senate Republicans found excuses not to do that and one of them was hes just going to fade away on his own. This is over. What is point of doing this. And i think we could now say definitively, that was obviously mistaken. And to your point, the Impeachment Process is actually designed to cover things that maybe fall short of the criminal bar of Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. And that is may very well be, were somewhere between that, right, with these accusations that hes facing. But, everyone, once again, stand by. We have a lot more to discuss. If you think that donald trump cant be beat. Joe biden cant beat joe biden in a reelection match, well think again. Kelly carterer in high school. You got no game dude, thats a foul and now youre ready to settle e the score. Game ovever. 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Reliable. Perfectly orchestrated. The United States postal service. Top economists at big Wall Street Banks any saw they were wrong to predict a recession this year. In fact, by any objective measure, the economy is growing and inflation is falling, but amics still dont see it that way. Cording to a new cnn p three quarters say that the economy is in poor shape. And six in ten say that President Biden has done a bad job of handling it. So why has he had such a tough time turning those numbers around. Here is Governor Gretchen Whitmer of michigan in an interview with jeff zeleny. People are feeling optimistic but their tentative. I think you could tell from mir own voice. Im i use the word precarious. I think weve been through a lot these last few years. I think weve been through a lot and people are somewhat optimistic, but worried that perhaps there is a curveball coming. Yeah. And, you know, there is a possibility of an economic curve ball for sure in this economy. I think it is a mistake for any president to be overly confident but i think the undercurrent of what is happening among democrats is political nervousness. Jut a few minutes ago congressman Dean Phillips of minnesota was on the Morning Shows and hes been rumored to be considering a primary of President Biden. Listen to what he said. I think im well positioned to be president of the United States. You do . I do not believe im well positioned to run for it. People who are, should jump in. Because we need the meet the moment. The moment is now. That is what the country is asking. Hes not ruling it out, but what is happening here . Are democrats considering trying to challenge biden for the nomination. It doesnt seem like it is a serious consideration, but it is in the back of their minds. If you consider seeing some of the poll numbers over the last week. Biden is not a slam dunk over donald trump. Right. This is if you look at General Election numbers right now, this is a pretty close race and if you somehow start to see biden start to fall behind, that drum beat, that you jut saw, it might get a little bit louder if things could start to change a little bit. And mean while, if youre the Biden White House and the biden campaign, youre running on the infrastructure bill, youre basically letting the republicans do their thing. But running on kind of money that is being doled out around the country and biden almost it is almost humorous, or earlier this week one of our photographers caught him on his family vacation, asked him about trumps arraignment and indictment and this was the response. Mr. President , will you be following the arraignment today, sir . No. He is literally just chilling. As all of this is happening. Yeah. He did just spend a week at the beach in delaware. But this is consistent. He has avoided weighing in on trumps legal issues. He doesnt want to suggest in think way that hes politicizing the process and they do think that it is better to show him acting as president while all of the republican drama plays out. But to your point, the big thing theyre trying to do and so far hasnt broken through is hes traveling the country as is his Vice President hammering about the projects that have been done, the bridges being built and roads being built other Infrastructure Projects in an effort to boost the which i for the president and the theory is this going to help and work and we havent seen advertising for campaign and that is a problem. Those numrss you discuss, New York Times and siena poll of a General Election matchup, just finds it tied, essentially. But at the same time, this is a divided country. Youre not going to have slam du dunk president ial races. Bidens victory over trump in 2020 was by historical margin a pretty wide victory. Yeah. And it was a small one. It was. And i think that a couple of notes to make sure. One is, when we talk about them trying to sell the economy and not making any kind of end roads just yet, i think that is it is just really early to see if this economic argument works. I mean, were not going americans have a short memory. If it is the summer before the election and everyone feels like theyre flush with cash and going on their vacations and vn been strapped, we could be looking at a very different surge for biden. But i will say what i think is so fascinating about the polls is bidens entire argument around him and allies is i could win slam dunk if donald trump is the gop nominee. And they really believe that. And now when youre seeing the polls come out, that is where it is starting to get a little bit dicey for them. Because they have believed, he hasnt been the most popular president , but with donald trump, if hes the nominee, that is great for us. And now there are questions about that when you see the recent polls. I do think that the contrast between biden talking about the economy and trump talking about jack smith and how aellegedly deranged he is, is working for him. We talk about the legal troubles helping trump and it is true in the republican primary. It is not necessarily true with the general electorate where it reinforces his persistent unpopularity. If biden has a good economy, if these very recent trends of rising wages, wages rising faster than bills, continues then biden would be in a strong position. If it doesnt, different story. And biden ran in 2020 on the soul of the nation, on restoring basically democracy in america. Here is what a couple of esteemed historians have said about this particular moment that we could be facing as a nation. This really is a test now of democracy. I know that all sounds so abstract. But as i say, democracy is so simple. You have to accept that the people who lose, accept the loss. This is one of those moments that you realize and in the positive that our judicial system is working, on the other hand how close we came to having a kind of coup detat. And that teed up that argument again. Youre going to see an economic argument and an argument about democracy from this campaign and that is clear when he announced his campaign, when he announced hes running for reelection. It was focused on threats to peoples freedoms and threats to democracy and abortion access. You saw them making these arguments about protecting our democracy during the midterm campaign. So youre going to continue to hear that from them. Yeah. All right. Everyone, thanks for being here. And coming up next, a heartbreaker for the u. S. Womens soccer team. Well have the details next. Wee uuuhhhh. Here, ill take that woohoo ensure max protein, 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of sugar. R. Enter the 10,000 powered by protein max challenge. 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Shes stepping off the International Stage and she knew this would be her last go round heading in and where this team was there were question marks about what they were able to pull off. No team had pulled off this threepeat at the world cup that they were going for and she said in many ways that shes ready to be done and that shes looking forward to stepping away to this next chapter of her life that he made peace with that before this world cup, but that doesnt mean that this particular ending isnt really going to sting especially for a player like meghan rapinoe. Everything that we know about her, her competitive spirit, her drive. She is a player that relishes big moments and opportunities to be a star and weve seen her do that on the world stage time and time again, step into these big moments, so to be in a position to have a penalty kick that would go down in history and to have another opportunity towards the end of the game where she was right five feet out of position to be the hero, i think its going to be difficult because of who she is, but she was emotional after the match. I want to play a little bit of what she had to say. I know its the end and thats sad, but you know, to know that this is really the only time ive been in one these this early, you know, says so much about how much success ive been able to have, and just how much ive loved playing for this team and playing for this country and yeah. Its been an honor. The bigger story here is her contributions to the game overall. Part of the reason why the u. S. Women are in this position exiting a Major International tournament for the First Time Ever is because all of the other federations around the world have watched their example and theyve caught up. Teams like sweden and other teams that weve seen throughout the tournament. Theyre Getting Better and better and theyve used the United States womens team as that sort of beacon of light, that guiding path to how they grow their programs, and so a really sad ending for megan rapinoe, but certainly not definitive of what her legacy will absolutely be. Absolutely not and she remains a hero to so many women and girls. Thank you very much. That is it for inside politics sunday, up next, State Of The Union with jake tapper and dana bash. Thank you for sharing your sunday with usus. Have a great day. R you. Oh, genius for more breakthrhroughs like that i need a breakthrhrough card. Like ours with 2. 5 cash back onon purchases of 5,000 or more. Plus unlimited 2 cash back on all other purchases. 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