Welcome to very scary people. Im donnie wahlberg. The Serial Killer known as btk began terrorizing the city of wichita, kansas, in 1974, stalking and savagely killing his victims in their homes, then Taunting Police and reporters with disturbing letters detailing the carnage. Demented, elusive, btk was actually hiding in plain sight, but his true identity and motive would remain a mystery for decades. It all began on an ordinary day with the otero family. This is part one of btk bind, torture, kill. Rader i came to the back door, cut the phone lines, waited at the back door had reservations about even going or just walking away, but pretty soon, the door opened and i was in. Jordan the otero family was a family of seven, headed by Father Joseph and his wife, julie. They had both been born in puerto rico, but they moved to new york as children and there, they met in high school. Otero my family was your typical military family. My father was an air force sergeant, and my mom was a stayathome mother, good catholic woman. They had five children, ranging in age from 15 all the way down to 9. We were all into school. My father expected us to get good grades, and we stayed pretty athletic and into sports. Hard workers, good parents, Kids Doing Well In School really, not a care in the world. Otero we came to wichita, kansas, in the 70s because my father had retired overseas and was looking for work. He worked on jet engines, and that was the reason the otero family moved here in 1973, was the number of Airplane Factories we have in wichita. Otero my dad found a job at cook airfield. It was a small, familyowned airfield on the outskirts of wichita, and he was hired as a mechanic. Hatteberg wichita, kansas, was in the middle of america, and nobody locked their doors. It was a great little town to be from. January 15, 1974 started out different. I asked my dad to take me to school early that day so that i could get an extra study hall in. My brother and sisters, danny and carmen, they went with me. Joe drops those three older kids at school, and he returns back home and joins his wife, julie, in getting the two younger kids ready for school. Theyre doing typical stuff making school lunches, gathering backpacks, getting ready for julie to drop those kids off, when the unthinkable happens. Singular he goes into the house. He draws his gun. One of the first things that he does is cut the telephone cord, and then he tells them that he just wants their car and some money and if he can tie them up and he can get the money in the car, hell leave them alone. Relph the killer bound mr. Otero and then neutralized him pretty quickly. Singular he tied up the parents, and then he tied up the kids, and then, when they were all in his control, he started to strangle the father. He strangled the mother. They were both in bedrooms. And then he strangled the boy, and then he took the young girl down into the basement. Otero i walked home by myself that day, and it was a very long, cold, windy walk, as is typical of wichita winters. I went into the back door through the kitchen, and i opened up the door, walked in the house, and i saw my mothers purse. It was thrown over. All the belongings were strewn about, which was totally out of character for my mother, and i yelled out, is anybody home . At that point, one of my siblings yelled out, charlie, come quick mom and dad are playing a bad trick on us. I saw my brother and my sister, daniel and carmen, with my parents bodies, and my heart it just felt like somebody had ripped my chest wide open and pulled my heart out. We tried to use the phone, it didnt work, so i took carmen and danny outside. And we stayed out in the front yard, and danny went next door to use a phone, called the police. 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Get unlimited data, talk and text for just 25 dollars a line. All on nationwide 5g. Plus, no hidden fees. No contracts. No compromises. Thats the Straight Talk talki from Straight Talk. Available at walmart and walmart. Com. Otero i remember me asking over and over again for joey and josie because they were due home from school any minute, and i just didnt want them to come home to that scenario with the police there and everything. I wanted them with me. The crimescene investigators they came to the scene, collected the ropes that the family was tied with, took pictures, documented the scene, diagramed it, and during the initial crimescene work, they worked this as if maybe it was a Home Invasion of some kind. Hatteberg they sent me out, and i arrived, and police cars everywhere, and then we start to find that there were multiple bodies inside the house. Otero i kept asking for joey and josie over and over again, and at one point, finally, the chaplain came up to me and sat me down. And the chaplain looked at me and said joey and josie were in the house also and that they were deceased. I pretty much went blank after that. It wasnt til very late in the evening that we even found out the children were involved, and thats what changed everything. Jordan this attacker took out the parents and the Little Brother all by suffocation and strangulation, which is a very slow, handson style of killing. Its very personal, and because its slow, unlike shooting or stabbing, you have the option at any moment of releasing your hands and saving the persons life. The terror on the face becomes enmeshed with sexual arousal, so the process of dying is what turns him on, not a sexual act itself. Relph it was clear that he wanted josephine. I think hed have killed 10 people in that house if theyd have been between him and josephine. He obviously spent the most time with josephine. Josephine was moved to the basement of the house. And she was hung. That was so sad and so so horrible and so callous and so cold that he would do what he did to a child. Singular he masturbated at the scene, which becomes significant in terms of forensics because hes leaving behind dna samples. Otis a lab investigator took samples of that semen, put it in a paper bag, stapled it shut, and turned it in as evidence because there was no scientific testing to do. 1974, that went on a shelf in an evidence facility. I dont think people knew how to spell dna much less from a lawenforcement Point Of View much less knew what the value is to preserve that, but there is one thing policemen did know and the investigator was an incredible imagination for you dont know what you dont know, but he knew he had to preserve that. Jordan he didnt rape the mother. He didnt even do sexual acts on the mother postmortem. The idea that his focus was on the 11yearold girl really indicates to me that hes fundamentally a pedophile. Morton with josephine otero, he said, when i saw her bound out of the car and up the stairs, i knew i just had to have her. Oconnor josie was a little girl. If that isnt a pedophile, i dont know what is. Foulston four people getting killed at home with two young children. That was the beginning of his quest to be on The Dark Side and to do this kind of thing. January 15, 1974, wichita instantly changed. It wasnt an innocent city anymore. It became a city that was afraid. Relph Law Enforcement at the time were looking at it as, is this a oneoff . What is this . There was just no reason to slaughter this family. Otero from what i understand, the police were wondering if my fathers activities overseas had anything to do with their demise and what had happened to him, so there was a lot of questions about overseas contacts. Hatteberg as the days progressed, our Police Reporters were all over it, trying to get information. I remember the Police Chief Checking on that somehow that this could be related to drugs, but it wasnt. So they abandoned that lead. Singular they put 75 officers on the case. They contacted other Police Departments. They interrogated 800 people in the first few weeks of it. They set up roadblocks and were stopping all kinds of people, and they came up empty on everything. Jordan the perpetrator begins to come down from the high of the otero family, and he needs the thrill to come back. He focuses on a particular young woman, 21yearold Kathryn Bright. The best advice i ever got was to invest with vanguard for my retirement. The second best . Stay healthy enough to enjoy it. So i started preparing physically and financially. Then you came along and made every mile worth it. Hi mom. At vanguard youre more than just an investor, youre an owner. Helping you prepare for todays longer retirement. Thats the value of ownership. 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Hes lying in wait, and hes thinking he will be able to subdue her and do whatever he wants and fill his fantasy, which is a lot of what the crimes are about. When they came home, they were ambushed. Relph he first says hes on the run from california to new york and he just wants a car and some money. Thats an attempt to put your victims at ease. He orders kevin to tie up his sister. Then he takes kevin into another room and wants to tie him up, and they get into a terrible struggle. And kevin gets ahold of the gun. He shoves it into his stomach, he fires it, and it doesnt go off. Relph kevin believed that he had gotten ahold of the guys gun, but unknown to him, he had a second weapon. Through a series of struggles, he will shoot kevin. Jordan kevin still gets up and fights. The attacker has to shoot him twice. He thinks hes immobilized him, goes to take care of kathryn according to plan. Kevin, who is very incapacitated but still somehow aware, realizes his only hope is to get out of the house and flee and seek help. Relph kevin went out the door and probably let this guy know that this thing has totally spun out of control. Singular kathryn puts up also an incredible struggle to try to save her life. Jordan the attacker, still with kathryn fighting and fighting, has to resort to using a knife to stab her repeatedly, trying to control and incapacitate her. He stabs her seven times in one place, i believe four in another, and then he flees. Morton he walks out and walks up the street. Why would he do that . Because it doesnt bring any attention to him. Singular kathryn shes able to crawl out of her room, crawl into another room, bleeding profusely, get to the phone. She calls the operator, and the police come and they get her. Jordan an ambulance is dispatched to the address to gather up kathryn and take her to the hospital, but sadly, within hours, she dies at that hospital while kevin is trying to give a statement to the police describing the perpetrator. Foulston there was a picture that was drawn of the person mustache and a beanie kind of winter hat. Hatteberg when Kathryn Bright was murdered, no one had a clue that it was related to the oteros in any way. Otis the bright case had appeared to be more of an aggravated robbery, a homeinvasion robbery where it was chaos. There was gunshots fired, there was stabbing. It really did not compare, crimescene wise, to the oteros. Jordan so, other than the common denominator of a Home Invasion in the middle of the day, the police had no real reason to link this to the same person. Morton btk studied a lot about police techniques. He knew that the police, basically, were looking for a common m. O. , a method of operation. He would wear disguises, so if witnesses saw him, he would look different. He would speak with an accent if he talked to anybody so there would be misinformation out there because he didnt want to get caught. Otis later in 1974, towards the fall, two brothers and a friend of theirs claimed knowledge of the otero homicides. Eagle reporters found out about it and wrote a story about it. Otis and then, one day, a Wichita Eagle reporter took a phone call at his desk. The caller advised him that there was a letter at the Wichita Public Library and named a library book that the letter would be in, told the reporter, if you go get that letter and read it, i think youll enjoy it. Hatteberg and in that letter was a description of the scene at the otero house that only the killer would know about. The public didnt know about them, but the police knew about it, and they knew, oh, this guys real. This is the guy who did it. This letter was sent by the killer to make it clear, you dont have the right people. This killer didnt want anybody taking credit. Jordan he is beginning to toy with the police, basically mocking them. Thats all part of his craving need for power at all times. Mattingly he had some very detailed words about what he wanted people to know about it. He said, when this monster entered my brain, i will never know, but it is here to stay. Maybe you can stop him. I cant. He has already chosen his next victim. When you read, theres a monster inside of him, thats really not true, at least in my experience. What you see is you have somebody who has psychopathic traits there, total lack of empathy for victims. Why . How do we know he he has lack of empathy for his victims . Because he kills them. People like that they call them psychopaths. In that same letter, btk gave himself a name. Btk youll know me by the way i bind them and ill torture them and ill kill them. The btk nomenclature bind, torture, kill. And thats how he wanted to be known. Jordan he is telling you what to call him, which is simply a demonstration of his need for power and control. Singular once the Wichita Police department realize that theyre communicating with the killer, they make the decision not to publicize it because they think maybe that will keep him from killing again. They all turn out to be wrong. Morton he had another potential target. That one wasnt home. He was feeling very frustrated, and then, up the street comes this little kid carrying a grocery bag. Im currently out of the office [typing] focusing on a little bluesky thinking. Ill be taking meetings with family and friends. And checking voicemail as my activities permit. Ill connect with you after reconnecting with me. Get 1. 9 apr for 36 months plus 1,500 Purchase Allowance on a 2023 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. With the new Straight Talk multiline plan. 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Hit it it takes two to make a thing go right it takes two to make it outta sight one, two, get loose now it takes two to make a. Stay two nights and get a 50 best western gift card. Book now at bestwestern. Com. Welcome back to very scary people. Btk, bind, torture, kill, was the name he gave himself after confessing to the otero family murders. Btk threatened he would kill again, but as time passed and there were no new victims, police wondered if he had moved on to torment another city until march 1977. Singular almost three years after he committed the Kathryn Bright murder, he has gone out again for a kill. Again, the m. O. Is slightly different here. Morton he targeted a house where there was two females, and he wanted to see if he could kill two females at the same time. He went there. They werent home. He had another potential target. That one wasnt home. He was feeling very frustrated. Btk so i just started going through the neighborhood. Id been through back alleys, knew where some certain people live. While i was walking, i met a young boy. Jordan its march 17, 1977, and shirley vian, a 26yearold mom with three young children, is sick in bed with the flu. Because shes so sick, all of the children have stayed at home that day. She sends her 5yearold son, steven, Down The Street to the local Grocery Store to pick up some soup for her and the kids to eat. Relph on his return, hes walking back, and hes approached by a man who shows him a picture of a mother and a child, says, do you know where these people live . He says hes a private investigator working a case. He now watches this 5yearold boy named steven walk up to his own home and enter the door. And he decides impulsively this is going to be his next target. Morton he watched him walk into the house. [ knock on door ] a minute later, he knocks on the door. [ gasps ] has a gun, forces his way in. Now, this is completely spontaneous. I mean, anybody couldve been inside that house. Jordan shirley vians extremely confused. Why is this man in her living room . The children seem confused and upset, as well, and she tries to cooperate. When he suddenly announces that he has a problem with sexual fantasies that she needs to help him with, that she cant get out of this, things are going to happen, they wont be pleasant, but she can survive if she cooperates. She actually helps him shepherd the children into the bathroom and lock the door. Thinking, of course, that the children will be protected if they cant see or experience whats about to happen to her. Morton he then takes shirley vian into the bedroom to assault her. In the meantime, the kids are yelling, and the phone rings. [ Telephone Rings ] jordan it interrupts the fantasy of btk the children screaming and crying, the phone ringing. The fantasy is not there. Btk the kids were really banging on the door, hollering and screaming, and then the telephone rang. So i cleaned everything up real quicklike and got out of there, left and went back into my car. Jordan the children actually manage to break the Bathroom Window and crawl out, running for help to the neighbors. Relph her neighbor comes over, and shirley is found. She has a bag over her head. Shes got a ligature around her neck. Theres attempts to save her, but shes gone. There will be a letter that arrives later on that specifically says the vian kids were very lucky. He had every intention of killing those kids, too. The phone call and breaking the window basically saved the little kids lives. Jordan btk has now struck for the third time, and police who would be working these cases would be looking for patterns and similarities. Once again, there was no real physical evidence. The child who witnessed the intruder come in gave a fairly vanilla description of a white man dressed in a suit. The victimology is completely different. The killers behavior is completely different. Other than strangulation in the first and the third, it just doesnt seem that the same person would be responsible for all three attacks. Otis however, the binding of the victim on her legs and her arms are what keyed the Police Department in to matching that one to the otero case. The knots were the same. The rope was kind of the same. So that one was lumped into the btk cases at that point. Relph we knew of m. O. , but certainly, we hadnt come to appreciate whats called signatures, things that a killer does just for themselves. Certainly, some of the binding of some of his victims was just for him. It didnt further the completion of the crime. Otis i believed this guy had to be just as smart as us when it came to ways to catch him fingerprints and hairs and fibers because he was being very, very careful not to give us any. Jordan with this third attack, it wasnt wellplanned. These were not his intended victims. Shirley vian was outside of his normal, careful procedures. Jordan one of the more baffling aspects is that this is a man who had cased the home of two young women and had his Sexual Fantasy and his plan all worked out. When it went south, why didnt he just pack his briefcase and go back to work . It really doesnt make sense that he would impulsively and randomly pick on the home of a 5yearold child. When we finally asked him about that, i said, why did you veer so far from your very strict discipline . And he said, well, i was just all wound up that day. Burgess that happens, where they will plan something, it doesnt work out, but theyre on a high and they have to find someone. And so thats where the impulsive aspect comes. It moves from a plan, and that fails, and then theyre really angry, so the anger gets built up, and they just find a situation where they can strike. Foulston it was unpredictable, and that really was so disruptive to our community because nobody knew where, when, why, or who was gonna be next. 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By december, hes on the hunt again. Btk had an elaborate system for finding his victims. Trolling came first, then stalking, then naming a project. He would start with the process of trolling, which might just be riding around neighborhoods, looking for women. Hatteberg i asked him, i said, so, how did you pick your victims . And he said, i would be driving Down The Street, and i would see a woman standing on her porch or id see a woman walking Down The Street. And id point my finger at her, and id say, shes next. singular so then he would start the process of stalking. Stalking would involve an individual, and he would settle in on her. Hatteberg and then he would stalk these people for a period of time. He wanted to know all the information that he could get publicly about them. Singular he would then name his project again, a very organized process for him. When he gets to nancy fox, it will be called project fox hunt. Btk at first, she was spotted, and then i did a little homework. I dropped by once to check the mailbox to see what her name was, found out where she worked. I stopped by there once, at helzberg, kind of sized her up. The more i knew about a person, the more i felt comfortable with it, so i did that a couple times. And then i just selected a night. Jordan nancy fox is a 25yearold single woman. She has her own place, lives alone, and really is in control of her life. She has a fulltime job at an architectural company, a parttime job at night. Singular before nancy has come home, he breaks in. He goes into her closet. She does come home. Shes eating a hamburger. And he bolts out of the closet. When nancy finds this man standing in front of her, she actually tells him to get out of her house. Relph he thought she was spunky because she was like, im gonna call the police. And he said, that aint gonna do you no good. The phones already taken care of. Jordan she stands up to him. This really just feeds his fantasy because he is going to make sure she knows whos boss. He tells her that hes suffering from sexual problems and that she needs to help him with that and that if she cooperates, nothing bad will happen to her. Singular and this is the first time really that he is actually in control of the situation and he can actually act out what he had fantasized about doing. And she was like, well, lets get this over with so i can go call the police. I think at the time, women were taught to submit to sexual assaults, rather than try to fight off an attacker, which its different now. Singular so he ties her up. He does very elaborate knots, and he does the btk routine again. He tortures her through the strangulation process. He brings her up to the point of dying. Then he whispered in her ear. Im btk. Jordan dont forget that btk stands for bind, torture, and kill. He has her bound, hes in the process of killing her, but the torture is the whispering in her ear. Im btk. I killed the otero family. I am now killing you and strangling you. This is psychological torture. It would leave her dying in absolute terror. Oconnor he will describe that she put up a hell of a fight that actually turned him on even more. Once she is dead, then he will masturbate at the crime scene. He will leave behind semen and dna. When btk killed nancy fox, he left her bound, strangled, and deceased on her bed, left the house. The next morning, he realized that nobody had found her body. He wanted the police to know that he had struck again. So btk went to a pay phone, called the operator, because in those days, there was no 911. He called the operator and asked to be transferred to the police. The Police Responded to that address and found her body on the bed. Jordan it wasnt that he wanted to get caught. He wanted the catandmouse game to begin, and if he has to call in the murder himself and report it so that the police can be on the hunt for him, that he will do so that he can gain the upper hand, a feeling of superiority. You dont even know i killed somebody, and youre not gonna catch me. When he made the phone call from a public pay phone, a firefighter came up right after him and was able to have a description of him, and the phone was just dangling there. So he was almost caught at that point. Otis when the crimescene investigators found the dna stain on the female clothing on the bed, they collected it, bagged it properly, once again, sealed the bag. They knew that it was semen, but there was no dna testing at that time. And so they packaged it properly, sealed it up, and put it with the rest of the evidence of that case. Singular this is the second time that hes done this. He did it at the Otero Crime Scene In 74. Hes now doing it in 77. He doesnt really know or understand that Genetic Material can be preserved over decades. Oconnor nancy fox is the first one where he will take a drivers license, a memento, which is consistent with Serial Killers. The souvenir, taking a drivers license, was really about him reliving the moment. Burgess i work with criminalpersonality Research Studies on Serial Killers. Thats the way it keeps the fantasy alive, and a lot of times, that can work. He can look at the drivers license, and that reminds him of that and can be used as a sexual stimulus for him until that starts to wane and then he has to go and find another victim. Morton btk was interesting because he basically created his own pornography. He would draw pictures of women in bondage, tied up, looks of fear on their face. Thats what he was trying to capture was that terror, that terror that excited him. Hatteberg so i called him at home and said, you need to get in here now. I think we have a letter from a killer. 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He creates a poem called Shirley Locks about the murder of shirley vian, based on the poem called curly locks. It ended up in the classified department of the eagle. Singular he thinks that this is somehow going to draw attention. Theres no report about it. Theres no story about it. After 10 days, he finally sends a new letter to the local tv station. If the newspapers not going to Pay Attention to him, maybe the tv station will. Hatteberg it was february 10, 1978, and i get a call from a receptionist. And her voice is quivering just a little bit. And she says, i think i have something that maybe could be important. So i walked out front, and shes holding up this letter just by the edges. It turned out to be a letter from btk. Jordan there was a poem titled oh death to nancy. To the left of the poem was typed btk four times, and beside each, he added tiny hangman nooses. There was also a Pencil Drawing of a woman bound and gagged and a twopage letter with some of the words misspelled. Btk wrote, i find the newspaper not writing about the poem on vian unamusing. Theres a psycho running loose, strangling mostly women. There are seven in the ground. Who will be next . The writer, who claimed to be btk, admitted to the murders of the otero family, shirley vian, nancy fox. He admitted to and gave details of all of those homicides. Relph there was no confusion anymore that all these cases were connected. Singular kake realized they had a big story, but they took it to the Police Department. Hatteberg Chief Lamunyon looked at the letter, and he said basically that it was time to release the letter because we now had a Serial Killer. Singular lamunyon made the decision at that point to go on television and announce that there was a Serial Killer in wichita by the name of btk. This morning, kaketv was contacted by the person who police say they believe murdered four members of the joseph otero family in january of 1974. So, that evening, the police chief of wichita appeared on our air at 6 00. We have an individual who apparently has the uncontrollable desire to kill at times. He is not a rational person during that frame of mind. As your letter indicates, he tries to fight off the demons in his head but is unable to do so, so theres just no question in the polices mind as to the fact that this individual is responsible for seven murders in our city. Hatteberg we didnt know we had a Serial Killer. We knew we had a bad guy. Serial killer, we didnt know about. That was a terrifying and clarifying moment for the people of wichita. Nobody expected a Serial Killer here. Foulston people were really concerned about having locks on their doors, about who might be calling them or them not having the telephone or just walking into the house and finding the Telephone Wires had been cut. Btk was utterly the bogeyman to all of us. He was the bogeyman made real. Jordan btk is finally in his glory. Its been four years since the otero murder, and finally, hes on the news. This is important because hes launched the investigation, actually giving police the clues they need to try to catch him. And this is just going to make him feel like he is god. There was criticism in the community why cant you catch this guy . Jordan whats different about him and whats unusual is the randomness of the victims, which is why he was able to get away with it. Hes perfecting his craft. Hes trying to be very good at what he does. Jordan for a Serial Killers power and control, theyre very often not able to control their compulsions. The coolingoff period usually gets shorter and shorter and shorter. The thrill is gone. They have to get out there. They have to kill again. Gagliano these homicidal maniacs, they think theyre smarter than the rest of us, and they think that theyre going to pull off the perfect crime, and it doesnt exist. The arrogance was part of his downfall. Hatteberg were not getting any communication from the Police Departments. Something is happening. Something is going on. Woman this guy . This is the killer . So i finally looked at him and said, come on, just tell us who you are. And he said, im btk. Btk had killed seven people, including two children. He was taunting Law Enforcement with clues, but police were no closer to discovering his identity. Although he left his dna at two murder scenes, dna testing and tracing did not yet exist, so the killing would go on until a stunning twist that would finally end the terror. Thats in part two of btk. Im donnie wahlberg. Thanks for watching. Goodnight. Rader she was chosen. Since she lived Down The Street from me, i could watch the coming and going quite easily. Snuck into the house. She wasnt there. I went back to one of the bedrooms and hid