tonight marks one year since start of the pandemic. this has been the deadliest year in a century. literally it started one year ago with the presidential address on our watch and now a year later, literally to the hour, a very different president with a very different message. the biggest anti-poverty measure in a generation. the law aims to lift 11 million americans out of poverty and cut child poverty in half, but president biden spent most of his first address to the nation not taking a victory lap but rallying us for the rest of the race to come. >> a year ago we were hit with a virus that was met with silence and spread unchecked, denials for days, weeks, then months that led to more deaths, more infections, more stress and more loneliness. we knew what we needed to do to beat this virus -- tell the truth, follow the scientists and the science, work together. my fervent prayer for our country is that after all we've been through, we'll come together as one people, one nation, one america. i believe we can and we will. biden also made a big announcement. he's going to tell all the states to open up vaccine appointments for all adults by may 1. and hereby here is the incentive for all of us. >> if we do all this, if we do our part, if we do this together, by july the 4th there's a good chance you, your families and friends will be able to get together in your back yard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout and a barbecue and celebrate independence day. that doesn't mean large events with lots of people together, but it does mean small groups will be able to get together after this long, hard year, that will make this independence day something truly special. >> celebrating independence day as a function of our co-dependence, of our interdependence. we have to rely on each other to get to that better place. the president said he has put government to work to ensure on may 1 there will be enough vaccine for of adult in the country. we have a team member from his covid effort who is going to tell us how that will happen and how big a challenge it is exactly. but the president also took on something just as dangerous as the pandemic in his address, the disease of division. biden tried to lift our spirits with a medicinal message about recovering our sense of collective cause, that we, the people, are the answer for one another. certainly it was healing in a way that the bloviating and blame that started us on this poison path a year ago tonight never was. >> this is not a financial crisis, this is just a temporary moment of time. i will never hesitate to take any necessary steps to protect the lives, health and safety of the american people. the virus will not have a chance against us. no nation is more prepared or more resilient than the united states. >> and no nation was more put at a disadvantage by leadership than america. trump did hesitate. he intentionally refused to take necessary steps. he lied about the reality. he left states to largely figure it out for themselves at critical points. he called himself a wartime president and then all but fled the battlefield. even now trump refuses to be part of the solution. even when it means just telling people to take the vaccine that he pushed for. he is the only former living president who didn't take part in a new psa of former presidents and first ladies to encourage everyone to get the vaccine. he's still denying the reality of what we need from a leader even a year later. now when we were here at the beginning, i was a totally different person. it felt like our future was landing on our laps that night. >> we're waiting on the president of the united states right now, finally coming to address the nation, here he is. tom hanks just tweeted he and his wife, rita, are in australia, okay? they don't feel great, they got tested, they have coronavirus. we're just getting details on this huge breaking news from the sports world. the nba is going to suspend all games until further notice. at the time those occurrences, those events seemed unthinkable. little did we know how much worse it would become. for two minutes with that guy to tell him what was coming his way. again, yes, because of the virus but almost as toxic was the denial that we allowed to fester and the division that stripped us of our greatest strength, our interconnectedness and sense of common concern. instead we started down a path of us versus them that certainly took us backward in the fight against the virus but also took our democracy to the brink of ruin. imagine what it means that the right offered not a single vote to help their own constituents in this landmark legislation. it was notable president biden did not call out the right side of the aisle in his address tonight. but i have to because they're now doubling down in a way that threatens everything that matters in our democracy. it is most frightening to think that the biggest challenge for biden and for all of us may not be what we've been through but what we're about to go through. the same opposers are harnessing trump's ugliest instincts when we are at our weakest, and they are trying to take us back to the days of jim crow. 43 states trying to make it harder for people to vote, especially minorities. they seem to think the way to win in the future is to rig the election so that people can't beat them again. they want to win in the future by taking us to the past, and that can't be america's destiny. the question is how to stop it. hr-1 is the only single step to stop it and it is not clear whether democrats will be able to get it passed. that's where we begin tonight with our better minds, the two davids, gregory and axelrod. david gregory was actually with me last year on that very historic night. david, could you have ever imagined what the year would bring when we started there thinking, wow, this is huge, the nba is not going to play. >> yeah. i mean, it touched popular culture in a way that night where all these things came together. the sports world, you know, a figure like tom hanks and rita wilson, people who are so recognizable started to bring it home. and then looking at a president who was facing down something that was so difficult, he didn't realize that he seemed in over his head that night and obviously in the days and months to come. this has been quite a year. but it's at least redeeming tonight that we have a different future that we can start to see the end of this. >> impact david axelrod, of the speech by president biden. >> you know, i think it was a very tough task he had tonight because you want to speak about the ordeal we've been through and honor the sense of loss and pain that people feel and still be optimistic about the future. you want to signify the progress that has been made without rolling up the mission accomplished banner, which is inappropriate at this moment. i give biden an "a" for his leadership on this virus. we're in a much better place today than we were 50 days ago when he took office. i think the speech was probably a b. he tried to do too much, i think it was a bit long and grim at points. i think he didn't take enough credit. you can overreact to donald trump. we are in a better place because the bill he passed was historic and will mean immediate help for people and will also accelerate the vaccine process and, therefore, there is hope today for people. and i would have leaned more into the hope than he did. i know he places a premium on empathy. and he is genuine and very effective at that. but i would have looked for a more muscular speech tonight. you know, the bottom line is not the speech but the actions that he's taken and the actions he's taken have been very, very positive. >> david? >> yeah, a couple of points on that. i think empathy is great and i think the president wears the presidency so well, especially at a moment like this. so just great credit to president biden in that regard. i frankly think he's got more salesmanship to do around this $1.9 trillion package. it's going to help a lot of people and there's certainly a lot of need, but there's also a lot of questions. and it's a big target. you can talk about republicans not being on board. david axelrod knows about that from the obama administration with much of the administration deciding they were going to oppose. but republicans as a political matter have gone back to something they're happy to be able to do with trump out of the picture, which is take on democrats for being captive to the left. this is a big target. we don't know how all of this is going to play out and i think biden's got more work to do to explain why each and every element of this is so necessary, point one. point two, i think he should have been more muscular on getting the schools reopened through high school and acknowledging the science that's there that tells us that it's safe to do so. a lot of parents are waiting for that message tonight. >> the guy who's going to follow you guys, andy slavitt, does not agree with what you said about the science being there that we can open schools right away. >> i'm listening to the cdc and that's what they say. >> they do. i'll let him answer the question but i got to tell you, i don't think it's going to be as simple as that. go ahead, ax. >> i think david is completely right about the salesmanship and it's very clear and the president said it unequivocally in his speech, they're going to spend the next few weeks really, really selling this plan and making people understand what is in it and what is about to happen because of the plan. and i think that's very wise, you know. he lived through 2009, he understands the importance of this, that people really understand. and unlike 2009, the relief that people are going to get is going to be immediate and obvious. they're going to get checks. they're going to get cash in in their pocket. so he should go out and tout that and all the other aspects of this plan. so i understand why he didn't load up the speech on that tonight, but he should take a bow for that. you don't have to be donald trump. donald trump is a great marketer, but he didn't have that much to market. joe biden actually has something to market here. and the country needs to hear it and feel better about the future. although in the cnn poll today, it's clear people are more optimistic now than they've been in some time in the end challenge. >> that's the challenge. you have 70% of americans who believe the worst is behind us. that is good but risky if they don't keep doing the things. one quick beat before i go to break. david gregory, i said at the top and i believe this. i think it's an existential cause the fight they're about to have. pandemic is bad. it was always going to go. it's just about how much human cost comes along with it. this spate of laws going across this country is something i would never have expected to see in my lifetime. this is a jim crow move by the right, plain and simple. and the only chance that there is to stop it in a single stroke, you can litigate your way out of it but it could take years, is hr-1. do you think the democrats can pass it? >> i don't know if they can. everybody who wants to vote should be able to vote in this country, and nothing should get in the way of that. that makes common sense. but republicans are able to muddy this by in some cases legitimate questions about making sure elections are secure, issues around provisional balloting. these are fair questions. what are unfair questions is when you have litigants like from arizona say this is a zero sum game, we have to keep our advantage by making sure certain people can't vote. that's just not the way to run a democracy. >> i know you have to run, chris, but the biggest fraud we've seen is the depiction of the last election as fraudulent and now they're using this phony depiction of the last election to rig the next one. >> right. all i want them to do is so me in these 253 laws is make it safer. what they do is abridge periods, they abridge access. that's not how you make it safe. you make it safe with more safe checks and safeguards. that's not what this is about. i never thought i'd see anything like this in my lifetime. pandemic, yes. not this. thank you, gentlemen. we're in a better place today. we heard the president's speech. now we're going to go inside the strategy on how we're going to get this done by may 1. how will that work? 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that's a big promise. telling the states to make appointments available by may 1. having enough vaccine for all adults. wow. doesn't mean you'll get it in your arm but you can get in line to get it. from a process perspective, what's a chance that this happens? >> a heck of a lot of work has gone on in the last couple months. so the president to be in the position that he is tonight to make that commitment to the public after 50 days is i think quite extraordinary. but i think if you listen to what the president said, he started to describe to americans what the end game could look like. but he did say we all have to do our part and pull together. you made an important point that if people get too complacent and feel like this means it's all over, then we won't get there. so sometimes the hardest part of the journey is the part in which you have to keep your patience at the end. i think the president is imploring us that if we do that, we have the resources to do exactly as he said. >> conditional, i'll give it to you. what is the chance on may 1st i have you on and the vaccine is there and people can get in line. what do you think it is, 50/50? >> well, we're not in the habit of overpromising. so i think this direction that the states is done with full knowledge that we will have the resources. a lot of modeling going on and a lot of work still to go on to make that happen. but we're quite confident that the president's direction is going to be followed. it doesn't mean may 1st everyone can get the shot in their arm but on may 1st, you should be able to get a shot in your arm. i think our biggest challenge is the people who aren't sure they want the vaccine. that worries me more. >> good. there's a casualness to it that they're not in as big a rush to get the vaccines because things are going to open up anyway. getting the vaccine is a pain in the hiney and they don't know that they want to do it. and the question to you is are you guys giving them enough incentive to do it? those cdc guidelines were too conservative. what about the idea of a vaccine passport, where you get the vaccine, you get this thing, you can do more than people who don't have it. why not incentivize people to want to do something that they're increasingly not going to want to do? >> you know, just like the whole rest of the last year, chris, you are one step ahead. because i think you're talking about the kinds of things that are very much going to be on people's minds. it's interesting before people get vaccinated most of the talk is about when can i get machine vac my vaccine . after they want to forget it and move on. three quarters of adults still haven't been vaccinated. i hope that the quarter of us that have been vaccinated will still remember there are a lot of people out there that are not yet as safe as we are. that bringing together that feeling for one another, that spirit of this country, that's what the president is trying to call on tonight. if we fail on that, we could still face setbacks. i can go back to work, i can go travel. >> it's an interesting conversation. >> it's an interesting conversation. i think the president is really playing it straight. i don't think he's trying to manipulate the public. people with their thoughts on vaccines -- the people who are on the fence don't want to feel manipulated. they don't want to do it for the country. they'll do it for themselves or their family if they think it's the right thing and if they get their questions answered. we've got to do a good job about that. we've got to make sure people get those questions answered. and people who have older relatives and family, i think they get it. they may have questions about the vaccine, they want to see that it works and is safe. i think they're seeing those things that it's a safe and effective vaccine. i think we will as more and more people have gotten the shot and as more people want the shot and all of the time people have been waiting, it has built up more demand, i think that is going to help carry us over. but i think it is not the president's style to be manipulative, chris. i would just say that the president very much wants to level with people. >> i agree with you. we've both known the president a very long time. i'm not saying he's being manipulative. i'm saying he should be manipulative in terms of saving i will incentivize you to get this. you got 36% of people who are saying i don't know that i'm going to get it. that number is expected to increase. because you're having the big push of everybody who feels like they have to get it and that they want to get it right now, and we're dealing with undersupply. now you'll have supply, but will you have the demand if there is no incentive to get it? >> well, let's talk about your point about the passport thing, which you said rather quickly and i'm not going to speak that the government is going to be in that business because it is quite clearly not. and i think that would be a disincentive for people to want to contribute to this. but i will say this. venues, concerts, sporting clubs, restaurants, they are all -- the shipping industry. >> gyms. travel. >> i talk to all of them all day long. and they're all saying the same thing, we want people to come here and feel safe. so they're going to -- those kinds of things, they will happen naturally. schools, universities, et cetera, without anything that the president has to do about it. and i think, in fact, if the president were to do that, i think there is an instinct in this country, an instinct to people who don't trust the government very much that would be very worried. that's kind of the principal reason they don't want to take a vaccine in many of these cases. so i think that is probably going to end up taking care of itself as more and more people get vaccinated and as more and more places want to open. >> i hope you're right. we're want to get to herd immunity and get back to life. david gregory said the cdc says the science is there. i know you're up against that as well. appreciate you. you always have a platform here to make the case. >> thank you, chris. thanks for everything you've done over the last year and reported on to the public. >> thank you. all i did was get sick. the rest of the country is getting well. that's all that matters. be well. i'll talk to you soon. relief is coming. it will take time. it's going to address a lots of needs. it is a landmark legislation. the democrats can tell you why they're so proud of it. but this next fight, i'm telling you, i'm not into hype, i don't get panicked very easily, i see a lot of things as just being more politics. i'm telling you this wave of laws across the country, i'm all for election security. who doesn't want the election to be more secure? but that's not when these laws are. they're just shortening when you can vote early, where you can vote early, who can vote early. every one of these laws in these places, look at the laws online in the states that biden flipped. look at georgia. look what they're trying to do and you tell me it's not jim crow. i have a congresswoman in that state to make a case of what's going on. imagine a law that is so shockingly retardant taking us back that trump-loving governor kemp has been silent about it. his lieutenant governor doesn't want to touch it. how regressive must it be for them to want to stay away, next. thank you! hey, hey, no, no limu, no limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ hi, i'm a new customer and i want your best new smartphone deal. well i'm an existing customer and i'd like your best new smartphone deal. oh do ya? actually it's for both new and existing customers. i feel silly. but i do want the fastest 5g network. oh i want the fastest 5g network. are we actually doing this again? 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do though states ring a bell? any claim that this is about election security falls apart when you look at what they're doing. there's no security reason to simply close polls earlier on election day. iowa just did that. why? how does cutting off money that goes to help keep elections safe and secure like arizona wants do, how does that help make it safer? less money, more safe. who sells it that way? the reason opposition party is pushing this, and not that the gop or the republicans are, is because you've got to look at who is on board and who isn't. in georgia, the lieutenant governor wouldn't even preside at the debate on the bill. that's how opposed he was to what's happening there. he's a trumper. and governor kemp ain't a quiet guy. but he's been quiet on this. why? because it's disgusting. let's get after it with georgia democratic congresswoman lucy mcbath. happy to have you. >> i'm happy to be with you. >> why is this happening, in your opinion, in your state? >> it's voter suppression at its worst. here in georgia the republican legislators have really instituted some very horrible, horrible voter suppression bills. and i think because we did so well with our elections here, the presidential election, we now have been able to bring to washington two federal senators. and then of course we were able to get an additional congressional seat. i think they see the writing on the wall, and they're going to do whatever they can to try to make sure that they are alienating people and preventing them from exercising the right to vote. georgia is transitioning. it is turning. we're moving blue. and i think they see the writing on the wall. and as i've said before, i think this is like custer's last great stand. they're going to do whatever they can to prevent the evolution. >> to show why it matters in the real world application. they had these two bills on the books before the specs elections. you don't get ossoff or warnock. >> having these two senate seats, senator warnock and ossoff has been very, very crucial to being able to put forth all of the help and support that the american people need under the rescue plan. so i think this is a threat to them, and therefore you see the continued efforts for voter suppression. it's nothing new. it's been this way in georgia for a really long time, but it's becoming -- their tactics are far more aggressive now than we've seen in some time. >> they were quiet about the pandemic bill because they knew people wanted it. they're going to be loud and proud about this because this is the dynamic in our political culture right now. this is the us and them. and you're going to have to find a way to make the people it's going to affect to get up and get out and show their outrage peacefully protest, not to be what they oppose. but this matters every bit as much to their lives and their futures as anything else that's happening in congress right now or really in the last 50 years. congresswoman, do me a favor. you have such a close personal connection to what's going to happen with increasing safety from guns in this country. i would appreciate you staying over the break for the next segment and i want to bring in another guest to talk about the legislation there, the chance that it gets done and where the country is right now. shannon watts is going to join us from moms demand action for gun sense in america. so, let's take a break, let's come back and talk about, again, what's the chance that it gets done, next. like sandpaper. introducing new dove handwash, with 5 x moisturizer blend. removes germs in seconds, moisturizes for hours. soft, smooth. new dove handwash. ♪ ♪ ♪ easy tools on the chase mobile app. simplicity feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. the harry's razor is not the same ♪ because some of us are not the same ♪ our close shave comes from our 5 german-engineered blades designed to start sharp and stay sharp. and we never upcharge you for high quality. so for those of us who don't want just the same, harry's razors are here. harry's. not the same. available in store and at harrys.com. house passed a pair of overwhelmingly popular pieces of legislation today. one would require universal background checks on gun sales. what does that mean? any way that you transact buying a gun, except probably family to family, should have a check on who's buying it. another would close loopholes in the existing system. i want to bring back congresswoman mcbath, and this is why she got into public service. this isn't just law for her, this is about life. we all should remember this story, i covered it intensely, 2012, her son jordan shot and killed over loud music. but really what he was killed over was one man's fear of who he didn't know and what he didn't understand, and he had a gun and it made it deadly. with the representative is shannon watts, founder of moms demand action for gun sense. it was february 2020 that your son would have been 25, and i remember the letter, representative, that you wrote to him on what would have been his 25th birthday. and of course it broke my heart, but it also reminded me of how you have decided to turn pain into purpose with service. and what do you see in this bill that gives you hope for better outcomes? >> well, what i see in this bill is just, you know, a grand opportunity now with our two state senators also to help us get this bill across the finish line. i mean, this legislation is monumental. over 90% of americans in the country believe in this legislation, believe in the ability that it poses for us to be able to keep our families and communities safe, without infringing upon people's second amendment rights. this legislation basically just puts common sense measures in our existing gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them, such as domestic abusers. so that's all we're simply trying to do. we are trying to help law-abiding gun owners also feel safe in the streets and not ever feel they are in fear of having to use them against anyone. >> we haven't had a real law on any kind of suppressive action when it comes to access in 25 years. one in five gun transfers, sales or otherwise, intrafamily and stuff like that, are done without any check at all. now, shannon, the interesting pushback to the story of a mom, like the representative is, this bill wouldn't have saved her son's life. and, you know, why should we do this? we check all the main sales now. this isn't really needed. what do you say to that? >> well, we don't check all the main sales. you were talking about this as the first time in 25 years we're looking at real change at a federal level. and what's different since 1994? 50% more guns in the hands of civilians. there's an internet where people can buy guns online. and gun deaths are the leading cause of death among children and teens in this country. in 1994 it was car accidents. so so much has changed. and the fact that you can buy a gun from an unlicensed dealer in most states without a background check is incredibly dangerous. as lucy said, it's how domestic abusers and other dangerous people have easy access to guns. we know that background checks work on licensed sales, and will work when applied to unlicensed sales. 100 americans have been dying every single day for the last 25 years while congress has done nothing. we are on the precipice of true federal change. and i'm confident that with lawmakers like lucy at the helm, we'll be able to push it through. >> the problem is that, lucy, there's one of you. right? 93% of americans polled are for universal background checks. only 61% -- it's a big number, but 61% approve of the covid bill, 93%. you have zero votes for this bill from the opposition party. the two guys that did vote for it in 2019, mast and diaz-balart, pulled their votes this time. they will give you nothing on this. what's the chance you get it passed without blowing up the filibuster in the senate? >> we have to hope that we are going to be successful. i think there again we have to play out this battle with public sentiment. there again, the public will have to cry out, just as you said before. i remember this so candidly, after the el paso tragedy, chris, you did the cnn town hall and you said that, you know, passing gun legislation, changing this culture has to be done through the people. the people will choose that. they will decide that. so this is no different. the people will be deciding what they want, what they need to keep their communities and their families safe, and i absolutely believe because i've even been able to be elected on this policy agenda, people are sick and tired of being afraid that their children are not going to come home from school. they're sick and tired of being afraid. they want to have common sense legislation to keep them safe. so this is going to be played out in the public arena. i truly believe that i know that all the people that have been working on this issue on the ground, grass roots organizers, survivors like myself are going to demand from the senate republicans that they take a stand and pass this legislation. >> you know, lucy, i know that you said in your letter to your son that he had dreams, and i know you think one of them was that jordan would have gone into public service. you're living those dreams for your son. you wouldn't have taken this turn in your life otherwise. who knows why god puts things in our path. i'm not one of these silver linings people. the loss of your son is unforgivable and unforgettable, but you're putting pain to your purpose, purpose to your pain. it means everything. and i respect your commitment to the service. thank you for joining us, representative. i may not always agree with your positions, but i do on this. and i agree with your passion. so you're always welcome on the show. and shannon watts, you fight the good fight. i see you all over the place. thank you for being on the show tonight. i just don't when we're going to start waking up to what makes common sense. you saw all the lies add peddling and dark arts got the nra. when are we going to be starring reasonable, not left and right? 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let's bring in a better mind. laura coates right now. it's good to have you. let's stick with where my head is right now. we already have manslaughter. why did you need this? >> well, you want to give jurors options because sometimes they want to be able to convict, but the elements of the crime or the actual charge you have offered them doesn't quite fit the fact pattern for them, for whatever reason it might be. maybe they question about the recklessness or the negligence or the ideas of whether the actual substantive allegations meet the elements that are actually under the statute and under the codes. you give a plethora, ones that you actually prove through the evidence, and you provide the jurors with the additional contingencies that are available under the law. >> now, this is interesting. i covered this law very closely in new york where it is caused depraved mind murder. it's a defined term. it has to do with almost terroristic thinking without the political agenda. you were going to do something that was calculated to hurt a lot of people. in new york and other states it says this is about group thinking, but not in minnesota. in minnesota because of the noor case -- n-o-o-r, people can look it up -- they said this law can apply to an individual's actions against another individual. what does it allow you in terms of explaining to a jury, intent that you don't get with manslaughter or a homicide, straight murder, felony murder? >> well, first of all in minnesota the third degree charge is an unintentional crime meaning you don't have to prove intent to kill. what you have to prove is that depraved mind. and normally in minnesota the precedent suggested prior to that noor case, the officer who killed the australian woman who called about a sexual assault in the alleyway, he was an officer who is now convicted of third degree murder. the idea was normally the idea of driving your car on a private sidewalk. you didn't have anyone in particular in mind that you were trying to harm but you could have wreaked havoc. the question was in that case whether if you only had one victim -- and the word "only" feels odd to say. but if you had one intended victim could you wreak havoc in a reckless way. the court recently said, yes, even if you have one singular target or one person is impacted you can use this particular charge. this was reinstated this morning as now you have second degree murder which means you have felony murder, that being the injury of kneeling on someone's neck and causing obviously a loss of consciousness. now you have the ability to talk about the notion that you engage in such a reckless thing that it would lead to somebody being harmed or act with complete disregard for someone's life and now you have the manslaughter, meaning you were aware of and could appreciate the risk to somebody being harmed but you disregarded it. but in all of these things we don't have the intent standard, only the intent to act, not the intent to kill. it's a very big deal. >> thank you very much. six jurors seated. again, somebody who is aware but believes they might be able to be fair, has a variety of feeling, latino background. they're continuing to go. they need 14, 12 to sit, 2 as alternates. so we're getting there. every time there's a development, we will cover it, and i would love to have you. laura coates. we'll take a quick break. please stick around. l everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? 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