Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman 20240711

The building that he died defending. Overnight, President Biden and the first lady, as you can see there, as well as the lawmakers who sicknick died protecting, paid their respects. A congressional tribute will be held later this morning. And today, House Managers will lay out their case against former President Trump for inciting that insurrection. They argue that mr. Trump is singularly responsible for the deadly capitol siege. They want him barred from ever seeking Public Office again. Mr. Trumps lawyers claim their clients speech was protected by the First Amendment and a Senate Conviction would be unconstitutional. This morning, President Biden weighs in on this. His brandnew interview ahead. We also have breaking new reporting about the meeting overnight between House Republican leader Kevin Mccarthy and congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene. Greene has endorsed statements calling for the execution of democratic leaders. She has harassed survivors of school shootings. She suggested that Mass Shootings were staged or hoaxes. She has reportedly made wildly dangerous and outrageously antisemitic statements about the existence of jewish space lasers. All this and until this morning, were told, Kevin Mccarthy had not made up her mind as to whether to strip her of committee assignments. No official decision yet. People familiar with the meeting gave no indication that greene expressed any remorse. This House Committee meets this afternoon. But theres new reporting from politico that crossed seconds ago about how mccarthy is leaning this is big. And well bring that to you in just a second. First, Josh Campbell at the capitol where officer Brian Sicknick lies in honor this morning. Josh . A very solemn ceremony last night at the capitol, as lawmakers and members of the Capitol Police gathered to remember fallen officer Brian Sicknick. Now, a hears arrived at the east steps, carrying his remains inside the rotunda, where he is now lying in state. We saw two officers, one carrying a box with his ashes, another with the american flag, set those down on a table in the middle of the rotunda. We then saw lawmakers come in as well as Capitol Police officers to pay their respects. Just before 10 00 p. M. , we got indication that the president s motorcade had departed the white house for an unscheduled visit. He arrived a short time later, President Biden and the first lady to pay their respects. They arrived there, placing their hands over their hearts as they stood before the remains of this fallen officer. Now, i wanted you to take a look at one moment, which i think really captures what so many in the nation feel. Its very brief, but you see biden walk up to two wreaths that are there and he just shakes his head, seemingly projecting just how senseless this tragedy was, this fallen officer who died in that capitol riot. We know that there will be another ceremony today, a departure ceremony. His ashes then will be taken across the river into virginia where he will be interred at Arlington National cemetery. Alisyn . Josh, ill tack it here. Whats the latest, fremt on the investigation into officer sicknicks death . Authorities are struggling, john, to build a case. Thats what our sources are telling cnn, as they try to find the person or persons that were responsible for his death. We know that there are mountains of evidence. The video footage, some of the selfies that some of these rioters took. Were told that they have not. Itted a moment where someone had actually inflicted an injury upon this officer. Sources do tell cnn, according to the medical examiner, that he did not receive any type of blunt force trauma. He collapsed on the evening of the riot and later succumbed to his injuries. But were told right now, they are struggling to build that Murder Investigation to try to find, identify, and hold accountable the person responsible for his death. Josh, thank you very much for all of that reporting. So house gop leaders meet today facing a crucial test for their party. What will be the fate of two lawmakers, liz cheney, and qanon believer, Marjorie Taylor greene. Cnns lauren fox is live on capitol hill with more. What do we know, lauren . Reporter we know that President Trump, former President Trump has been out of office now for roughly two weeks. But he is still really overshadowing the republican conference over in the house of representatives. They are slated to meet today at 4 00 to continue discussions about liz cheneys vote and other republicans vote to impeach former president a couple of weeks ago. You also can expect that there is going to be more questions about what House Lawmakers are going to do, specifically, Kevin Mccarthy is going to do about representative Marjorie Taylor greene and whether or not she will remain on her committees. The fight over the future of the Republican Party reaching a critical point on capitol hill this morning, as House Leadership decides whether to punish members who Support Extremist Views and Conspiracy Theories, or those who voted to impeach former president donald trump. In the middle, House Minority leader, Kevin Mccarthy, who spent time with trump in florida just last bweek. Mccarthy will play a part in deciding how to handle Marjorie Taylor greene. President trump won by a landslide. Reporter a former congresswoman who promoted a number of baseless Conspiracy Theories. Mccarthy meeting with greene on tuesday night, but staying silent on her controversial actions. But in the senate, Mitch Mcconnell condemned the freshman congresswoman without mentioning her by name. I did yesterday express myself on that particular new member of the house. And i think i adequately spoke out about how i feel about any effort to define the Republican Party in such a way. Reporter other senators, like lindsey graham, refusing to pick a side. I want to hear from her. Before i judge what to do about her, i want to know what the facts are. Reporter for senator mitt romney, Keeping Greene in the gop will be detrimental to the party. Writing in a statement, i think our long history as a party has shown that its important for us to separate ourselves from the people that are whacky weeds. Meanwhile, the thirdranking Republican House member, congresswoman liz cheney is working quietly to hold on to her leadership position, facing scrutiny from some gop House Members after voting to impeach trump last night. I think there needs to be a vote. She didnt just go vote her conscience on the day of the vote. 36 hours, put out a statement in the sharpest possible terms. When you do that, i think thats a concern. In their meeting later today, House Republicans are expected to discuss those ten republican votes against trump. Mccarthy giving this answer about cheneys decision in january. I support her, but i do think she has a lot of questions she has to answer to the conference. Reporter congresswoman adam kinzinginger kinzinger, says its time for republicans to fix their focus. I think weve forgotten the art of leadership or really how to lead. Its sometimes leading in dark moments. Its times calling out things like qanon or saying that the idea of an election being stolen with widespread whatever is false. Reporter and of course, House Democrats are expected to hold a house rules meeting today to try to advance their resolution that would essentially Strip Greene Of Her committee assignments. That is something that steny hoyer, the House Majority leader has made clear, he is willing to put on the floor if republicans do not act to remove her. Alisyn . Okay, lauren, thank you very much for all of that. We have some Breaking News right now. Politico has just published details from inside that meeting between minority leader Kevin Mccarthy and congresswoman greene and cnn analyst rachael bade joins us now with her new reporting in politico. Rachael, what did you learn . So last night, mccarthy and Greene Sat Down and mccarthy tried to lay out from my understanding that this was coming to a head and that her controversial comments from, you know, years past, months past, were putting republicans in a really bad spot and they were, frankly, sick of it. He tried to lay out options for her, my understanding is, to say, you can go on tv, you can apologize for your remarks, you can denounce qanon, this Conspiracy Theory that in part led to some of the violence we saw on january 6th. And if you dont, you know, we could see gop colleagues remove you. And my understanding is this didnt perhaps go as well as he wanted. There was some hope with republicans that she would do the graceful thing and remove herself without making them ask. So mccarthy called a latenight meeting last night with his top lieutenants, basically the ones who choose committee assignments. And they talked about this and my understanding is the consensus in the room from my reporting is that everyone agreed, she should probably have to come off education and labor. There was a question about whether they could go to steny hoyer, the democratic leader in the house and make some sort of deal to keep him from having a floor vote on this issue. The big thrust of the meeting or the feeling in the room was that a floor vote and forcing republicans to take a vote, a yes or no in terms of removing a colleague, would be catastrophic on the campaign trail. They would either get hit from the base or if they were in a swing district, they could be labeled as somebody protecting a qanon conspiracy theorist. And so, the room agreed that if they can stop this boat, this democratic boat, that they want to do that. And so my understanding is that Kevin Mccarthy is going to be going to steny hoyer, pitching this idea of removing Marjorie Taylor greene from one committee. Shes on two, but one committee, and seeing if they can find a way out like that. Just to be clear. I want to reiterate this, because this is a big deal and this is more than we have known up until this point. Mccarthy is leaning toward removing her from at least the education committee, rachael . Thats right. And its a question of whether thats going to be enough, right . Is steny hoyer, are the democrats going to be okay with that . Shes got this other committee, a littleknown committee called the budget committee. Is there a middle ground that she can come to where she steps off of one but not the other . I dont know. I will say that theres a lot of angst angst and feelings of discomfort, concern about this woman on the part of democrats. And i dont know that him offering to take her off one committee himself is going to be enough. Well have to see. But especially because last night, im hearing that republicans talked about if they took her off, could they eventually put her on another committee . And that, i just dont think thats going to fly right now for democrats. The question i have is, are they so concerned about this house vote and voting on this issue that they will give the democrats what they want and remove her from both . And another option we could still see that seems kind of unlikely, is we could see Marjorie Taylor greene come out and apologize, denounce qanon, and you know, try to make amends herself or step down on her own accord. Im skeptical this would happen given her tweets and her defiance that she has shown. But thats another option. Im skeptical that would happen because of what she said just yesterday on a radio show. She said she was asked, would you like to clarify some of your previous positions . Would you like to apologize for them, whatever. And she said, i dont think i have anything to apologize for. For looking things up on the internet and asking questions about it on facebook . Big deal. Okay. So that tells you. That was yesterday. That was less than 24 hours ago. So that tells you she doesnt have the, i guess, Mental Capacity, to understand whats real on facebook and what isnt. And she doesnt think she needs to apologize for liking other postt executing Top Democrats like president obama, nancy pelosi, hillary clinton. She thinks thats looking things up on facebook. She doesnt understand shes incited violence. I dont know if she has the Mental Capacity or what, but as of 12 hours ago, she had no intention of apologizing. And thats probably why we saw mccarthy call this emergency meeting last night. They werent set to discuss this, but he called them in. Theyre going to continue this conversation today after he talks to hoyer. I do think its interesting, you know, republicans, even just 24 hours ago, i was hearing from them, can thand there was a con about, if we remove her, are we catering to democrats . Are we going to get hit for that . But overall, the concern amongst republicans privately about being tied to this woman is what is winning out right now. And thats why youre hearing them actually talking about bringing her off. Again, will it happen . We still dont know. But there is broad concern about republicans being sort of labeled the party of qanon, which if they allow her to keep saying things like this, then, obviously, thats going to happen. Its already starting to happen. And meanwhile, my colleagues at politico did this story that over at the Democrats Campaign arm yesterday, there was a conversation about how they would use republicans and qanon in elections next year. And that they think this is going to help them with recruiting good candidates, because they think theyll flip more seats and they could possibly hold the majority at the time when a lot of them thought that they were going to be on the defense because democrats control washington and naturally, republicans do better at a time when democrats control washington and flip the house. Last point i want to reiterate here. Apparently, what youre reporting is one of the outs that mccarthy gave Marjorie Taylor greene was to publicly den denounce qanon, and she wouldnt do that. I find that fascinating, particularly because the former president has had that same issue. Hes said, qanon is made of members that love america. Thats what he said about it. So she would not publicly denounce qanon. Theyre going to see what she says over the next few hours. Its going to be a really big day for the Republican Party, not judds based on what she does, but what they end up doing. And this could determine the future of how the Republican Party is seen in the coming weeks, months, and years. They have a big choice ahead of them. Rachael, thank you so much for all of this reporting. Keep us posted over the next few hours. It sounds like there will be major developments as the morning progresses. Thank you. Thank you. Betrayal of historic proportions. Thats the way House Impeachment Managers describe President Trumps role in the deadly capitol siege. We have new details about their impeachment case and how the former president s legal team is responding. Thats next. Man whats my safelite story . My truck. Is my livelihood. So when my windshield cracked. The experts at Safelite Autoglass came right to me. With service i could trust. Right, girl . Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. 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I want to jump right in to some of the arguments being made by the former president s lawyers here. I think theyre so interesting and potentially flawed. One of the arguments theyre hiding behind is the First Amendment. Let me read you a little clip here. They say the 45th President exercised his First Amendment right under the constitution to express his belief that the Election Results were suspect. Well get to the Election Results in a little bit. But first, the very idea that the First Amendment is a defense in an Impeachment Trial, theres a different standard here. First of all, theres a legal understanding and representation of the First Amendment may be suspect in and of itself. But is there a complete First Amendment right in terms of impeachment . If a president goes out and says, im a nazi, right . Thats protected, legally, under the First Amendment. But theres no way on earth that it would not be impeachable, if the president declared today that hes a nazi, correct . Right. Remember, thinking about the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors, its not quite the same standards you would have in a criminal courtroom. But the underlying premise is the same. Its not about Content Regulation if its about an opinion or political hyperbole. Its whether it raises to the level of incitement. We have a whole body of law about threats. We talk about defamation. You cant just say anything you would like without context, even within a criminal context or a civil litigation context. The idea that his statements are fully First Amendment protected speech is what youll have to prove against using the test of the brandenberg test, whether it actually incited violence. Jeremy, the other thing that the Trump Lawyers seem to be Hang Tharg Hat On is, well, hes out of office. Hes out of office and all the stuff he said about right before the insurrection, that was like two weeks before he left office, so surely that doesnt count. And the Impeachment Managers have a response to that. They say, there is no january exception to impeachment or any other provision of the constitution. A president must answer comprehensively for his conduct in office from the first day in office through his last. That one, i that one really kind of resonates, when you think about it. Like, yeah, hes out of office now, but not when he said all of those things. Right, the case that the democrats are making is that, you know, if a president were to do impeachable offenses in his final days in office, but there isnt the time to actually go through the process of impeaching the president , setting up a trial in the senate, i mean, this stuff takes time. So what do you do . Whats the remedy then . And the response from the president s attorneys, there is no response to that exactly, but theyre simply saying that the process of impeachment is unconstitutional for a former president. Now, it is important to note that President Trump was impeached while he was still in office. It is simply the trial that is happening after the fact, and that is something that the House Democratic Impeachment Managers home in on, even as they say, even if you were impeached after you left office, that would be constitutional, because there is precedent. But i think its important on this Free Speech Argument theyre makinging, to point out the fact if theres anybody who understands the power of their own rhetoric and the way to weaponize rhetoric, its donald trump. He has been so adept throughout his political career for using words to incite people into action, to rev people up, to do all kinds of things. This notion now that the former president s attorneys are putting forward in this brief to say that, well, hes not responsible for the power of his words, is really absurd. But wait, theres more. Laura, i promise you more on the idea of election itself. Now about the First Amendment. Its admitted after the november election, the 41st president exercised his First Amendment right under the constitution to express his belief that the Election Results were suspect this. Then this, insufficient evidence exists upon which a reasonable jurist could conclude that the 45th President s statements were accurate or not, and he therefore denies that they were false. This right here is the argument the new lawyers wouldnt making with basically. That the election was a fraud. That is legalese for the election was a fraud and you cant prove that it wasnt a fraud. Now, there were 60 court cases that were laughed at and tossed, basically, lawyer. There was also the election, which the former president lost. And then theres the very notion is that you cant prove its not true. Proving a negative. I cant prove that Little Green Men are in the control room right now running this show. I have a camera. You cant prove that little green havent taken over our producers bodies. Exactly. The point is, you cant disprove an absurd statement. What is that as a Legal Defense . Its not a Legal Defense. Its actually questioning arithmetic. Its questioning what voting tabulations look like. And mind you, the lawyers who were actually arguing for donald trump when he was still in office were not even professing this and making these claims in the court. The courts kept saying, including some Trump Appointees on the bench, tell us what you have, show me the evidence. There was none. There was also no evidence and that was articulated by the former Attorney General of the United States, bill barr. This is an absurd argument. And what it says is, look, we dont know what happened here. We have no idea. Which harkens back to what happened in the first impeachment, which is, we have no idea what these witnesses may have heard. We have no idea. Theres a good way to find pout. One, its through what witnesses were able to confirm. And we also have at least three recounts in the state of georgia, just to name one state where it actually has been proven. But this is what you call an appeal to the base. This is an appeal to trying to tell people, look, hey, we know theres a leg to stand on, because there is not a court of law, its a court of legislation. A political trial, which is very different. And so you can make these sorts of nonsensical arguments. I hope, however, it will be treated more like a courtroom of law than it is one of Public Opinion, because if its Public Opinion to these lawyers exclusively, then i wonder if theyre going to raise the very arguments that they had no basis to raise after the november election. If they do, it will be a circus. This is probably a compromise of saying, okay, mr. Trump, well do what youd like. But this is one of the weakest arguments, because he did not win the election, full stop. Laura coates, Jeremy Diamond, thank you both very much. There was an important new study in terms of the coronavirus. Researchers discovering whether or not the virus can spread after you are vaccinated. Whether or not you are contagious after you receive the first dose of the vaccine. Up until now, there had been no real data on this. Now there is, next. Before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, marie could only imagine enjoying freshly squeezed orange juice. Now no fruit is forbidden. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . At panera, when we make a pizza. We dont just make a pizza. we use fresh, clean ingredients. To make a masterpiece. Order our new pepperoni and four Cheese Flatbread Pizzas for delivery or pickup today. Panera. Okay. Breaking medical news. 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In other words, we take vaccinated people, nonvaccinated people, and we look at their Family Members and work colleagues and we look at how many of them are becoming infected. And we look at how much lower the secondary attack rate is among vaccinated versus nonvaccinated. This study did not measure that. Instead, it was an indirect measure, by looking at swabs. And trying to use swabs as a proxy for those who are infectious. And so the result itself is a promising start. Its very promising that twothirds of the individuals did not have a positive swab or had minimal infectiousness. And that gives us some idea about what the potential value is of this vaccine in preventing the ongoing spread. So what i understand, what the scientists did, the people who received the vaccine, they two weeks later or three weeks later swabbed their nasal passages and didnt find the presence of the investigation. Of covid. And so, if you dont have the if youre not a carrier for covid, you cant transmit it. So that seems like it could be a game changer. Yeah. So when we look at the way in which this virus spreads, we are trying to reach a point of herd immunity. Herd immunity is where those who are vaccinated and those who have Natural Immunity are not getting infected, or if they are, theyre not transmitting it. What this is telling us is that twothirds of those who are vaccinated are not transmitting. But one third of them may be transmitting. So well have to readjust our thinking about herd immunity, because usually, we expect vaxinees not to transmit. So when you look at these results, when youre swabbing people who have been vaccinated, two out of three of the vaxinees do not have detectable virus even though they are infected. Thats a very positive outcome. For us, thats an outcome to a clinical question, do vaxinees spread the virus . The answer to that is only about a third spread the virus. The other twothirds dont. I want to ask you about the south african variant. What do we know about it . Is it more deadly . When we look at the evidence that weve been able to accumulate now over a second wave, where the 501yv2 vaurnt variant is the dominant variant, what we have seen the virus the spreading faster. It looks like somewhere in the region of around 50 faster. The early evidence does not suggest that its more its causing more severe disease. But that might change as we get, accumulate more death at the end of the week. I should just point out that even though the virus and this particular variant was first described in south africa, it actually may not have even emanated from south africa. Its appropriate to call it the south african variant. Its better to just call it by its name, 501yv2. And we now know thats in about 31 countries. Youre right. I dont mean to disparage south africa. Its that a handy shorthand. I know that doctors dont like that, when we give a geographic origin. Because we dont know that to be true. Because in terms of the 501yv2 variant, is it resistant to the existing vaccines . Clinical question. What we do know is as follows, by studies done here by Professor Moore here in johannesberg, about half of the individuals in a study of 44 patients who were infected in the first wave, that all 44 have antibodies that neutralize the viruses from the first wave. But about half of them, are not able to recognize or neutralize the 501yv2 variant. That poses a problem, because it now means that about half of the individuals from the first wave may become reinfected if exposed. And that poses a problem, because it now means that past infectious is not protection against this new variant. With regard to vaccines, almost every one of the vaccines that has been studied against this variant in different ways, either in the laboratory or in clinical studies, we have shown that they have shown that the 501yv2 variant is more difficult to neutralize. And the most dramatic of those was a result released on thursday, where the Novavax Vaccine was 89 effective in the uk, but only 49 effective in south africa. Deeply concerning. Understood. Professor abdul kareem, thank you very much for all of the information. Great to have you on the program with us. Pleasure. More than a thousand people arrested overnight in russia, as protests grow over the jailing of putin critic Alexei Navalny. We have a live report from moscow, next. Serena its my 4 10, noexcusesongameday migraine medicine. Its ubrelvy. For anytime, Anywhere Migraine Strikes without worrying if its too late, or where i am. One dose of ubrelvy works fast. 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New details this morning about the firstknown Search Warrants for people who organized and spoke at rallies proceeding the deadly capitol insurrection. Cnn as learned that the fbi has recently raided the homes of two men in orange county, california. They are well known for promoting Conspiracy Theories ranging from qanon and the deep state to those involving coronavirus and the election. They held an inflammatory rally near the u. S. Supreme court on the eve of the capitol attack. Our voices tomorrow are going to put the fear of god in the cowards and the traitors, the rhinos, the communists of the democrat party. They need to know that we as a people, A Hundred Million strong, are coming for them if they do the wrong thing. In these streets, we will fight and we will bleed before we allow our freedom to be taken from us. Neither man has been chandler with any crimes. Developing overnight, more than a thousand people arrested in russia amid new protests after prominent putin critic Alexei Navalny was sentenced to two and a half years in prison. Cnns Frederick Pleitgen is live in moscow with more for us. Whats happening today, fred . Reporter hi, there, alisyn. I was on the ground there for the better part of the night as all of that was unfolding and it was an absolutely remarkable scene. After Alexei Navalny was sentenced to spend more than 2. 5 years in prison, his supporters called for people to march toward the kremlin and the kremlin responded with an absolutely suffocating show of force by its riot police. The entire kremlin was surrounded by riot cops and went through the streets and started detaining people on a massive scale. We went to one place where dozens of people were put in those Police Detention buses, and that was something that continued throughout the better part of the night. In total, just in moscow alone, more than 1,100 people taken into detention. That came after that remarkable trial, where Alexei Navalny really didnt hold back and absolutely ripped into Vladimir Putin, saying that putin will be remembered as, quote, putin the poisoner. I cant even tell you how dangerous it is for someone to say that in a public setting. Of course, Alexei Navalny was then sentenced to those 2. 5 years in prison, probably more than that, that hell have to serve. His lawyers say that theyll go into revigs, theyll try to do that. We did get in touch with the kremlin this morning, by the way. And the kremlin not backing down even an inch, saying that the harsh response by the riot Police Yesterday was absolutely justified. They also now are simply referring to navalny as the convict and saying its not up to, quote, the convict to decide how Vladimir Putin will be remembered in history, guys. Fred pleitgen, thank you very much for all of that reporting from the ground for us. So back here, President Biden is pushing to reopen schools, despite concerns about new highly contagious variants. But schools in the uk are closing. So which is the right path . We have details in a live report, next. Loves me not. New neutrogena® skin balancing 3 madeforyou formulas with 2 Pha Exfoliate and condition for soft, balanced skin. Find the one. Neutrogena® these days you need more than an education. So thats what we give you. Introducing Career Services for life. Learn more at phoenix. Edu new projects means new project managers. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed you do. The moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. Claim your Seventy Five Dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed. Com home. In a year of changes. Dont take chances on your taxes. Be 100 certain with jackson hewitt. 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In the uk, schools are being closed to the vast majority of students since the beginning of the year. A surge in coronavirus cases can and new more Transmissible Variants have forced the government to backtrack on earlier promises to get children back into school for inperson learning. I must inform the house for the reasons i have outlined it will not be possible to reopen schools immediately after the february halfterm. Reporter but some education leaders say the government has been too slow in taking action. We were taking to government that really they should be looking at allowing schools to go to online teaching in the last few weeks before christmas. I think if they had done that, we wouldnt have had quite the level of the peak that weve had in this country. Reporter its a similar story for many of britains neighbors. Schools in portugal remained open even during the schools Strict National lackdown in early january. But a devastating increase in both cases and deaths has since pushed the government to enforce tougher rules, ordering schools and universities to close for at least two weeks with few exceptions. The government says its a necessary measure to stem the spread of the variant first found in the uk. But some parents feel its little, too late. This is a measure that should have been taken a long time ago, especially before christmas, when there were fewer positive cases. They would have had fewer consequences for our childrens learning. Reporter the lack of consensus on whether School Closures are necessary is evident across the continent. Along with the uk and portugal, germany and ireland have opted to keep school doors closed to students after most circumstances. Italy and sweden are taking a regional approach, allowing some inperson teaching in combination with online classes depending on local Infection Rates. While the netherlands will allow kindergarten and Elementary School students to return next week. And in france, spain and switzerland, schools are open, but with precautionary measures in place, such as mask wearing, social distancing, and staggered attendance. One expert at a Leading Medical Journal told cnn that whilst there may not be consensus on the best approach, decisions on whether schools should remain open need to be considered on a local level. Different countries have to make decisions based on their situation. Not all countries have. The same level of infection. And i think School Closures should be considered within the local prevalence. Reporter with new variants on the rise in europe and beyond, the new issue of how soon restrictions will be lifted has become a divisive topic. Whether teachers should be made to wear masks or educators should teach face to face, for now, theres little consensus and little clarity. Reporter what scientists here will tell you is that theres little evidence to suggest that schools drive Infection Rates up. They rather reflect whats happening already in the community. But its not clear if thats still the case with these new, more Transmissible Variants, john, which is why many governments are taking the more cautionary approach in keeping schools closed. The new variants pose new questions, to be sure. Science is trying to catch up with where we are right now. Max foster, thanks so much for being with us. We have live pictures inside the u. S. Capitol. Officer Brian Sicknick Lying In Honor in the building he died defending. And were getting new reporting this morning about how Kevin Mccarthy is leaning in handling qanon congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene. Stay tuned. burke at farmers, we know how nice it is to save on your auto policy. But its even nicer knowing that if this happens. Or this. Or even this. Weve seen and covered it. 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And yesterday, patriots owners robert kraft surprised some front line workers in his area with the news they were going. What are you guys doing this weekend . Would you like to go to the super bowl . What . are you kidding . What is going on . Are you kidding . No way. No way. We just want you all to know how much we appreciate what youve done and what you represent. Awesome surprise. And kraft is going to fly the group down to tampa on the patriot private plane. Thats the same plane that delivered more than a million n95 masks from china last april. Workers from all six New England States were chosen for the allexpenses paid trip. Another day, another record for tom brady. The Sports Apparel company fanatic says theyve sold more brady merchandise between the conference Championship Game and the super bowl than any player player ever. Of course, most of the sales coming from tampa, but fanatics did say theres been very strong sales in the northeast. In particular, one house continues to just buy every single brady merchandise thing they put out there. Berman, do you know anything about that . I would not buy anything of him wearing a tampa uniform, but you wont . I thought you loved him wherever hes portable. Who says he has to wear anything. Wait, was that my outside voice . That was my outside voice. Oh, man. Wow. Burned again. Andy, thank you very much. See you. And oh, god. And new day continues right now. Kevin mccarthy needs to strip Marjorie Taylor greene of her committee assignments. It may be little, too late. Shes still going to be a member of the house. I just need to speak up. The worst thing can happen is we can get defeated. The hope is that there will be enough fairminded Senate Republicans who are going to follow the facts and hold him accountable. Its probably not likely to get 17 republicans to change hair view and convict for an impeachment. Question for the Democratic Party is how much pain are you going to put us through until we get to a verdict of acquittal . This is new day, with Alisyn Camerota and john berman. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. This is new day. At this hour, members of congress are paying respect to Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who lost his life protecting them. We have live pictures now. Officer sicknick Lying In Honor inside the capitol where he was killed during the insurrection four weeks ago. Later today, there will be a private burial for sicknick at Arlington National cemetery. President biden and First Lady Jill Biden paid their respects last night. Also developing this morning, republicans appear to be at a across roadside about the diren of the party in the posttrump era. Last night, gop leadership met to discuss the future of Marjorie Taylor greene, the Georgia Republican who