out to me. >> i am open to a conversation. i have said publicly that if my choices in november or joe biden and donald trump, that i will have no choice but to vote for joe biden. i don't really necessarily view it as a vote for joe biden, but more so a vote against shrimp. i just can't and good faith vote for someone who has shown us that he will not uphold the constitution and who to this day will not admit that he lost the 2020 election. and was the first president to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. and so i would encourage other americans to follow suit. i know right now, i think there are a lot of people like myself, whether that be moderate republicans are independents who are hugely disappointed with their options? then 2024 and i empathized with that. but at the end of the day, i can put policy aside and know that joe biden is a person of good character and who will be a good leader for us. whereas donald trump has shown us what