of other polling question. >> this issue probably more than any other, you know, this is where donald trump's rhetoric is most extreme and most harsh. and that goes for many republicans with regard to border security and immigration, how to immigrant communities react to this? is there any sayyed that there's backlash to this? >> yeah, it's very interesting to me because i think a lot of democrats are saying, oh, look at donald trump, look at what we call anti-immigration rhetoric. there's going to be some backlash i'm not quite sure that's exactly right. and i've been keeping a track on this, so this is who us voters born outside of the country. so you know, people who might be born in france, people who might be born in mexico et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, who did they prefer for president? well, this is quite something. it's a number that always seems to surprise me no matter how often i look at it. in fact, they slightly more of them support donald trump at 40 10%. then joe biden at 44%. again, this is a change from where we were in 2020 because those voters were born outside the united states, preferred joe biden. but in this case, no sign of a backlash. kate, at