just days before the republican national convention in july when i talked to donald trump's advisers, they admit that they are not sure how this is going to play out. the question really is and what remains is wilson republicans be ultimately turned off by this conviction, leading up to the convention and also how will independent voters specifically look at this conviction as we look forward to november okay. >> yeah. and that really gets to how important the messaging is around it. so i think it's not just the conviction, it's in the weeks ahead. the message around it and what and what works when it comes to this and who benefits more. it's great to see you. thank you. >> joining us time to talk about this. a democratic strategist, co-founder of lift our voices, julie reagan, ski, and republican strategist rena shot. it's great to see guys. thank you for being here. you heard all the great reporting from alayna treene on that 100 141 million combined raised in may, it's it is a huge number. and i also have ringing in the back of my head, rena, a lot of