heard his voice talking about a tremendously painful and raw experiences in his life. >> i have to say listening to it. felt a little bit like a public flogging on some level hearing him talk about this in his own words and played back in a criminal case against him but that stuff is potent. there's a reason why prosecutors emphasize that sort of evidence when it's coming from the defendant's own mouth, it's hard to run away from good point. >> the fbi agent on the stand said today and you heard this that there may have been some periods of time between 2015 and 2019 when a hunter biden was not repeat not abusing drugs, how significant potentially is that? >> well, look, it's that is going to be the crux of the defense case as paula alluded to their discuss, there you know, i'm not sure it will have that much power with the jury because it's seems fairly evident from the evidence that we already heard today that he was often on right. addicted relapsing addicted relapsing. it's a very sad story, but i don't think it's terribly compelling to say, well, for