Businessweeks editorinchief, joel weber. We begin with jay powell. Joel take something complicated and simple it down. The cover is an expression of that this week. Jay powell, fed chair, probably the most important person in the world of finance. The Financial Institution that is probably the most important anywhere in the world and for a year now, hes been the target of trumps friend are ire, because trump wants lower rates, lower rates, and jay powell has basically been a stoic figure through all of that. Anol we believe this is independent organization and for the first time, we are wondering is it going to remain independent . And can they continue to fend off the executive branchs desire for lower rates . We will see what happens this next week with rate cuts. The market basically thinks there will be a rate cut. The bigger story is one we wanted to ask to dig into, which is for a year now, weve lived through the tension between trump and powell, more from trump than from powell. It is onesided, for sure. What effect has not had on the fed . What chris got to was, not much of an effect on a policy standpoint, but there is a certain nomination in progress right now. It will take a few months to evolve. This could be radical. Jason judy shelton is nominated for the fed. We dont know how that will go and we also dont know what she might do if she gets into that seat. Carol joel we are at the beginning of this process. It could last the rest of the year but has dramatic implications for markets, for the financial viability of the whole world, and it all comes down to the fed and what jay powell is able to accomplish. He has been this stoic figure. We can bet he will continue to do that but there is a lot going on here. Carol it is so timely and definitely a mustread for this week. Joel weber, thank you. Jason i talked with reporter chris condon about this story. Former shelton is a economic adviser to president trump. She is currently a director at the European Bank for reconstruction and development, a position that was foisted by the president , and she could be seen as one of two things. Either a political partisan, because despite her past hard money views, she has said recently that she would want to lower Interest Rates as quickly as possible if she became a fed governor. Now, that doesnt really fit background inr thinking and writing about Monetary Policy and economics. When i said she is a fan of hard money, that is generally associated with aiming for very low inflation. Even zero inflation. Philosophically, she does not believe there ought to be a central bank setting a benchmark Interest Rate for the financial markets. Jason i want to stop you there, because that alone is a very to say the stance least and the idea you would have someone coming into the fed that would on a regular basis essentially be questioning, if not its very existence, certainly all the key roles that traditionally we have seen it play. Even the that affect daytoday operations and certainly the deliberative process of the fed . Chris think of it this way. Sometimes an unorthodox person comes into the fed with a different view on economics. That does not describe judy shelton. She has no place in the debates that the fed holds around the table. She does not believe that debate hot to be happening. Ught ought to be happening. She is interested in a debate on a different level. She does not believe in having a central bank said Interest Rates. Money be rather considered or be tied to a fixed unit of measure like a weight in gold. Was was a debate that settled long time ago by the people involved in central banking around the world. She wants to revert to a much older debate. That would turn the fed on its head. I have to say that as a governor, that would not be that disruptive. One governor has really not that much influence at the fed, but think of it in this context in which the president obviously has great disdain for the current fed chair and would like could. Remove him if he if a person like judy shelton is installed as a governor, she would fairly or unfairly be seen as a chair in waiting. Lets say trump is reelected and powells term expired, she might then be named the next fed chair or even before that, trump could consider trying to demote powell from the chair and replacing him with judy shelton. Judy shelton as a governor would not be that disruptive, but judy shelton as the chair of the fed would threaten to turn that institution upside down. Up, oneust as we wrap of the things you address in your piece you talked to a lot of people about is the notion that chair jay powell may say forget it. Im out. That seems unlikely based on the people you talked to. Chris absolutely. Not a Single Person i spoke to who knows jay powell pretty well at all thought that was even a remote possibility. He is very squarely focused on the job he has in front of him. He could make plenty of mistakes in that job, but he is very clearly not the type of person that is going to walk away. Not in a position that serves at the pleasure of the president. The chairman of the fed has a fixed term with other certain protections found in the law and constitution. It is not entirely clear argument, but jay powell is not seen as the type of person who will wilt under this kind of pressure. Hes a pretty strongminded and stoic individual, and he is very likely going to whether this just fine. Carol next, deep into the business of cannabis. Jason from the grass ceiling for women to the new trend of stoner pets. Wed has come a long way. Carol it certainly has. This is Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Im carol massar. Jason and im jason kelley. The radioery day on from 2 00 to 5 00 wall street comp. Sectionn the business this week, a look at the cannabis industry. It is growing and global. Jason and getting bigger as state after state and country after country legalizes marijuana. Supply chain is global, exploding markets for cbd pet products carol we call them stoner pets. Jason and even the grass ceiling women come up against when they tried to rise in the weed business. Cannabis encompasses hemp and marijuana and for the last century, both have been banned. For fiber and textiles but got lumped in with marijuana and fell under prohibition. The major thing last december is the farm bill shepherded by Mitch Mcconnell from kentucky. He wanted the farmers to grow hemp. They legalize Industrial Hemp and the cbd, which doesnt get you stoned but has some of the benefits of cannabis. That is what is driving a lot of this now is there is no now a federally Legal Cannabis market in the united states. That means profits made are not complicated for the other side of the Cannabis Market . Craig the answer is complicated but less than when you are talking about marijuana. Marijuana, the problem is there where it iss illegal and their store is opened. The federal government considers marijuana like cocaine or heroin. Completely illegal and that creates a lot of tension. The reason investors have pushed to hemp is some of those restrictions are gone. There is a federal market, you can grow hemp in kentucky and send it to oregon. You can make it in oregon and send it to new york. There is an interstate Commerce Market in hemp and that is why the focus is on hemp. Carol as it becomes more traditional, that means some of the pitfalls of becoming a Traditional Company come along, and that includes the ability for women to be in this industry. When cannabis the industry was young, there were a lot of women in that industry and prominent in higher positions. Craig and a narrative this would be a great industry for women. D byouldnt be burdene the problems of banking and tech, and women would thrive. No Glass Ceiling because in colorado and washington when this got started, it was startups. To limittes took steps outside investment and everyone had a fair crack. You didnt need a ton of capital to get started so there was this narrative it would be a great place for women. Turns out we have public companies, wall street has shown up some of the vcs have shown up and it is starting to look like everything. It is more white, more male and a problem for the female executives. There are no women on these boards. It is a problem in the spotlight. Jason one of the most fascinating places this is going stoner pets. Dogg cannabis to help your in a pretty meaningful way. Craig the anecdotal stories are powerful. I dog was 14 years old, thought i was going to have to put it down, the dog wouldnt eat, couldnt jump, started giving it cannabis and several weeks later, it was better. Too. Eople are using cbd there is very Little Research on this because it was thenned banned for a century. Anecdotally, people are hearing it helped buster come help their dog get better with its joints and people are trying it. Is it a placebo effect . People think the placebo is a strong factor here but who is to argue with these powerful stories . The story of the pet market has been premiumization. People want organic food for their pet. In the things we think about the food and beverage world have shown up in pets. Cbd is the premium ingredient in the pet food market right now. Carol cbd market could be worth 24 billion in the u. S. By 2023 with 27 coming from the pet market. Craig a lot of people think the cbd market will be bigger than the marijuana market at the end of the day because there are a bunch of people out there, and a dogs too, that cant be stoned. Work,uld take cbd before there are a lot of use cases where another product would work. Jason you spent a lot of time looking at the biggest consumer package, the big food and beverage companies. Where are they on all of this . Consolation was out ahead, but it feels like everyone is looking to the pepsis, cokes, cosmetic firms. Who goes index . In next . Craig cbd is illegal by the letter of the law. The problem is, the fda hasnt done the regulations. It is not technically legal to put cbd in food or drinks. What coke and Procter Gamble and pepsi are waiting for is for the fda to come out and say we think the average adult can have 100 milligrams of cbd a day and it is safe to eat and drink. That hasnt happened. Right now, this is the wild west. It is treated like a Health Supplement where there is not a ton of regulation but the big boys, the companies will wait for the fda to say this stuff is safe and legal and here is what you can do with it. Carol in the meantime, we are seeing a Global Supply chain created. Talk about that. Craig coming off the farm bill, the u. S. Market for cbd is exploding. Around the world, you are getting Legal Cannabis markets in places you could never have imagined even three years ago. Everyone is looking to the u. S. And saying cbd is the next buzzy ingredient. Lets grow some hemp. It is happening in china, colombia, across europe, other countries in asia. Hemp because it is less restricted the marijuana is becoming a thing at the center of the first legal Global Cannabis supply chain. Jason taylor riggs joins us now. Areor g tv , we tracking the Stock Performance of the Big Companies. Take a look at this. This has a lot of people concerned about the supply chain. Weve come off the highs a little bit. I would highlight Big Companies like canopy growth, up 40 to 150 in the last two years but there has been focus on companies. Where is the next phase of growth . The pet sector, the u. S. Market . Some people say canada has been tapped out. Carol investors want to see performance. Coming up, betsy devos came to washington as a government outsider. We are told how she is handling the job now that she is on the inside. Jason a legal case that has ramifications in washington and wall street. Everyone is talking about Jeffrey Epsteins business and political connections coming under a lot of scrutiny. Carol this is Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Im jason kelley. Carol im carol massar. You can listen to us on radio on sirius xm channel 119, and on am 1130 in new york, 106. 1 in boston, 99. 1 fm in washington, d. C. And am 960 in the bay area. Jason in this weeks featured section, a spotlight falls on one of Donald Trumps many controversial cabinet members. We are talking about secretary of education betsy devos. Carol while she had no government experience, she was a wealthy activist who had bankrolled schools. She has taken moves to leave her mark. Jason Devin Leonard has tracked a lot of the cabinet. He talked about how she has measured up. Evin she went to Calvin College named after john father and her invented the lighted sun visor and became rich and she married the devos, the son of founder of the cosell and empire. Empire. Ing in michigan, this is a royal wedding. Out sinceshould point you mentioned the name prints, her maiden name, her brother is erik prince of blackwater fame who has his own political and geoeverything story. Theres another story, but they are very conservative and both mr. And misses devos became very involved in conservative causes, especially with a focus on education and among other things, they supported she in particular, a furtherance of lightly regulated charter sector with a high number of schools run by for profit companies. To put it mildly, they have had mixed results for children. Carol talk about her administration and what she has been able to get done because it sounds like she doesnt have a lot of backing from the white she hasr congress, but been able to roll back some Educational Initiatives put in place under the obama administration. Devis that is the whole thing. Everybody thinks you are the secretary of k12 education. You are not. The federal government contributes less than 8 of the roughly trillion dollars the federal government spends the country spends on k12 education, but they oversee the Student Loan Program and that is so thatrillion program, is where she has had the most impact. Her real cause is school choice. Pushing charter especially pushing vouchers. Sending kids to private school, that has been her cause. Carol has she made progress on that . Devis no. I guess there was a little victory in the tax cuts and jobs bill of 2017. Ted cruz. An amendment passed that would enable us to save put money away in our College Savings account to spend on private school, but that has been it. She has tried to push much Bigger School choice plan. She is trying to do one now and House Democrats are against it. Theour point before, trumps not that interested in education. Also in featured, a story in the headlines this week. Jeffrey epstein has pleaded not guilty to Sexual Misconduct and conspiracy charges. How hele, questions over allegedly built a fortune on wall street and developed powerful connections in washington. Jason our reporter joins us from london, because he put together this map of sorts of epsteins orbit. Armshow do you get your around a fastmoving and pretty complicated story . Tom from corporate america, manhattan high society, british royals, and effectively this is newsbination of these stories that have been flying around the last week or so and trying to make it a onestop Reference Point in all the different strands this story has taken. This story is disturbing, fascinating on many levels and beyond the allegations and charges that have been levied against him, we are wondering how did he get all of these relationships . How did he get so much money . That is what you are getting at. Tom that is what everyone is chasing. At the center of this horrific story is this man who seems to have been able to keep connections with billionaires, with celebrities, socialites despite 10 years ago being known as a sex offender. This is the guy, one of americas richest people. To givehe feel the need so much control over his Financial Affairs to a character like epstein . Now, after years in the public eye, we really dont know what his business was about. We dont know how he occurred so much wealth or connections. What we do know and what the article points out is how far his web extended. How are these people connected . Why are they in this orbit . Jason you also lay out the assets that he had. That is a huge issue for the government, a huge issue for the folks who are trying to both understand where he came from but also figure out how they are going to dispose of that and keep them from leveraging all that. Withive spoken prosecutors and they think the asset side of things could be the key to all of this. He has two private islands in the u. S. Virgin islands, he had infamous manhattan townhouse and a place in florida. All of those are up for grabs for the prosecutors. The question is, a lot of interesting things going on here. Inbought a Second Island 2016, spent a lot of money redeveloping what was going on there. Why did the government over there allow that to happen . Not just the properties. He has jets, a helicopter. One of those jets and one helicopter are up for sale. Still ahead, nobody knows amazon like brad stone so he is the perfect person to dig into jeff bezos scheme to dominate another slice of retail. Jason and how uber might want to take a page from jeff bezos playbook. Carol this is Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol still ahead among businessweek talks. Antonio mary tells us how his company could win the battle for the cloud. Jason and a special solutions question called prognosis, Meeting Health care issues head on. Carol and it has been a 50 years from the first moon landing. Jason but we begin in the features section. The company that reinvented retail, they are not done disrupting. Carol jeff bezos has been spending time and money on a plan to rid of the world of the cash register. Jason if you live in some major cities in america, you may have seen it. To understand what it is all about, we went to the guy who literally wrote the book on amazon and business and bezos. There are 13 of them. They are adding them slowly. It is best described as like a Convenience Store where you can pick up lunch or breakfast. A smattering of Grocery Store items, they are small. Thethe big innovation and reason why amazon has been working on this for so long is that there are no cashiers. You walk in, you scan your app, pick up what you want and walk out. Geneticallyook up, im a there are dozens and dozens of cameras watching you and tracking what you do to see what you are taking. So they can charge you for it. This is amazons big bet to revolutionize retail. Carol talk to us about how it works. I was fascinated by the waiting of items weighing of items. That is something my colleague and i were curious about when we started to research this story. One thing i knew from following amazon is that they have worked on this for an extraordinarily long time, probably longer than most companies would ever invest in a project. They started this in 2012. Bezos told a lieutenant go figure out a way for us to do something unique and retail, and this is what they landed on. They investigated a number of ways to make it work. Chipsere looking at rfid in packages, having customers scan barcodes on all sorts of things. What they landed on the a culmination of sensors on a combination of sensors. There are cameras and weight sensors so they can combine a smattering of inputs to figure out what has been taken and carried away. A smallr thing is selection of cases where there areome confusion, there good oldfashioned amazon employees looking at the footage. Questions is big does this scale . Carol it sounds expensive and like a lot of technology. And you still have to have people. That sounds expensive to me. One of our sources to scrub it as the most expensive r d project in amazon history. We talked to the technical head of the project and he did not think that was right. But they have spent millions on it. And this gets to how and among how amazon operates. As a smalloming Convenience Store but they are thinking about it as much more. We are reporting there is a 1015,000 foot being worked on in seattle that is going to be much larger. Clearly, they are looking at this not necessarily to replace cashiers in whole foods but as a lever to create a new Customer Experience in retail. The story is kind of an experiment. Carol and the potential price is, as you write, a 12 trillion Global Grocery market. They want a peace of this. Piece of this. What they do is they go how do we get to 500 billion . Walmart is still much larger in terms of annual sales. How do we get to that level . Going to they are not do that unless they crack 90 of all retail that happens in physical stores. ,ason we talked about bezos big tex troubles, and even his own prime day purchases on our extra podcast. Im a amazonrse has got all of that money to pour into projects. Of a partly because decision made over a decade ago to branch out into web services. Aws has grown into a profit stream respected by investors and wall street. Jason Bloomberg Opinion says says over would be wise to do something similar. There is an aws hiding inside of uber. That has honede their own technology to match desple who want right ri with drivers around the world. It has mapping and logistics technology, that is hard to do. Carol and the chief Technology Officer has thought about this. I thought that was interesting. Recently, he suggested where has got lots ofhas ideas but this idea of doing aws Style Technology is on the background. He brought it up unannounced and made the comparison to aws on his own. Carol he does not want to do it anytime soon. It is clear it is not front and center. Carol the market for aws is much bigger. Awss potential audience is literally any company in the world. Every Company Needs computing. And not every company in the ike business uberl model and Needs Technology underneath it. Jason what is interesting about aws is that the introduction of that radically changed the landscape of other Big Technology companies, the acquisitions of they make, the business strategy. It would be interesting to see if uber getting into the business would change how lyft and airbnb and others would think about this. It is worth noting that maybe does not not uber exist without aws because it uses the same model aws invented. It might create whole categories of companies that would not have been possible otherwise. Jason we talked tech with the syria ceo of htc. Carol plus, Data Management and a look at pressing issues in health care. Jason this is Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason join us every day on the radio from 2 p. M. To 5 p. M. Wall street time. Carol and find us online. Issue also in this weeks , and exclusive interview with hewlettpackard enterprise ceo antonio neri. He has been with the Company Since it split in 2015. He took over as the ceo back in 2018. Carol and hpe recently model,ced a subscription carving out a niche in a highly competitive space. Jason we spoke to neri about his plan. We believe the future will be eccentric and clout central and datadriven. And the clout has to move closer to where the data is being generated cloud has to be closer to where the data is being generated. , toe have a Clear Strategy provide the right conductivity with a secure connection, analytics, and move computing closer to the data. It is cheaper to move the cloud to where the data is. So we have made a bold statement billionr to invest 4 to develop that set of technologies that will accelerate outcomes. Carol how much pressure are you feeling from the likes of amazon, google and others . I know you have a partnership with google, but some of these other companies that have put their stake in the ground. Many have moved to the public cloud. But when you look at the enterprise level, even the midmarket, see that not many productions have the cloud. ,he reason is that at scale customers realize it is cheaper for them to run it on their premises in a data center or a core location at scale. And we realized the world will be hybrid. There will be data on premises and data on where we call the cloud. The there is an opportunity to modernize that infrastructure to integrated experience in a true hybrid cloud approach. And to help customers decide what is the right mix. Ultimately, they have to decide based on a set of policies where they want that data to gravitate. For us, we are embracing the public cloud. We are providing a true hybrid cloud experience. Carol do you feel pressure from other competitors . We compete with everybody. Thene spectrum with providers and on another with the vendors. But we have a Clear Strategy. And if you look at our results we are making progress. Is there another peace you feel you need to add on piece you feel you need to add on . We are looking at what is out there, particularly startups your startups. And if it makes sense for our shareholders, we have a disciplined approach and it helps us accelerate our strategy. Obviously, more and more of this intelligence comes from the softwareenabled experience that makes that more intelligent, autonomous, or at the edge. So we will consider it. We are always looking for. Valuations tend to be erratic as of late, but if it makes sense, we will consider it. Carol we have got trade wars underway and that we will see what comes out of the g20. But you also have the white house pushing against other trade partners. You guys do manufacturing in mexico. How do you view the trade wars . You are in 172 countries. How is it changing how you run hp . The reality is we have got to solve this together. I think we need to Work Together to solve this problem. Ultimately, there needs to be a fair approach to this threat. But at the same time, we live in a Global Economy and the supply chains we have put in place are very sophisticated. We have a very large and Global Presence so we have been able to navigate these challenges and mitigate them. Carol now to the special solutions section, focusing on the issue of health care. Jason governments and private companies are trying to bring innovation to the health care sector. We spoke to our editor about the stories in this weeks issue. Crisis before the opioid , the big question was what comes after opioids . What can we develop as a Pain Medicine and treatment that are as effective and that can step in and take the place of opioids . I think the next big thing in pain has been something people have been talking about for a long time. But Bigger Companies have had mixed success. We are looking at efforts by a handful of startups that are testing on animals and pushing it forward. There is some push by our government to heat up speed up human trials. Carol and we are spending money. Exactly. Stuff, id of exciting mean, i think it is unlocking genes and dna. It is not a gene therapy but the underpinnings of a lot of what we need to deal with to get at developing more effective ones. Pain is a tricky thing to get at. You dont want to a limited pain entirely so that we are eliminate pain entirely so that we are aware of things happening to us and there are various other inspirations considerations. Are reporter and a prognosis after did a great job and did a great editor job at looking at what is happening with the startups. Jason and a reminder that what we understand about pain comes down to the brain. Exactly. Is, i think the crisis is terrible, but in some ways, it has focused people on the fact that we have to move beyond opioids. They were affective and very lucrative effective and very lucrative. Some of it being managed not the way it should have been. So there has not been in that real drive to find what is coming next. Now, it is like, no, this is a priority. Like coming up, no boo you have never seen it before. Ago, and than 50 years americans managed to make it to the moon. It is a story about patriotism but also project management. This is Bloomberg Businessweek. Jason welcome back to Bloomberg Businessweek. Carol you can also listen to us on the radio on sirius xm channel 119, and on a. M. 1130 in new york, 106. 1 in boston, 99. 1 f. M. In washington, d. C. Jason a. M. 960 in the bay area, in london on dab digital, and through the Bloomberg Business app. About a peekrsuits behind the scenes at an iconic american restaurant. Jason anybody who is anybody goes to eat sushi at nobu. We went there with a twist. We have this awesome journalist who them up for a couple years, has been doing stunts where we sent him undercover epos locations to see what it is like to be a bother at the plaza, a ski instructor at aspen. Was to have him go undercover as the maitre d at nobu. Jason remind us of the role it plays in celebrity culture. Nobu started in l. A. Nobu himself at a restaurant there and Robert De Niro convinced him to come to new york. Now it is around the globe and they have hotels. A billion dollar business and it is growing. They are famous for celebrities hanging out there. Jason part of what the maitre was all of the intricate behavior that happens from the restaurant side but also the clientside. Yeah. 7. Andon worked at nobu 5 this is not even the most celebritycentral one but he saw tons when he was here. And he described the seating chart as a game of risk. And they subscriptions know who cannot be seated with who. They have relations with the celebrities and they use the young staff who actually tell them, oh, that is a youtube star. You cant seek that person near this person. It gets kind of intense. Carol there are these corner booths and that is coveted. Hs andre are four boot everyone once those. Everybody wants to be in that spot. There is only so much you can do. And there are issues of privacy. He said that if you are seen as restaurant, ita is because they want you to see them. Jason and check out the pursuits section for much more like bentleys 100th anniversary and how elvis reinvented himself and the las vegas show. Carol a good beach read. Lets finish up in the remarks section with reflections on with the most amazing pursuits in american history, human history, really. That would be sending a human to the moon. Apollo 11, armstrong, and the first lunar landing. Jason that was the result of a huge collaboration on a scale seldom attempted. So what does that teach us about management . Our editor outlined some lessons. We were saying we made it, weve got to the moon. Now it is not like we, it is like they. Those people from long ago. And now we somehow cant or at least are not doing it. In a way, it is almost faintly embarrassing celebrating this anachronism of americans walking on the moon. Carol so lets talk about it. You do take a look back 50 years at the process and some of the lessons we have learned. Itright, because think about , the technology of the 1950s was so primitive compared to today. Carol its amazing we got to the moon. Particularly in the area of computers. The onboard computer on the Apollo Mission was so incredibly tiny there was no computer that primitive that exists anywhere today. And get it got them to the moon. And yet it got them to the moon. So the lesson to me is not the technology that the management. But the management. So there are lessons we can take today and apply them to todays challenges whether it is cancer or Global Warming or whatever. Carol they had a very clear objective. The person who established that objective was president john f. Kennedy when he said in 1961 that the u. S. Had a mission to land astronauts on the moon and bring them safely home by the end of the decade, which was audaciously ambitious. Carol . What we will do and here is the timeframe. Here is what we will do and here is the timeframe. On and not university universally lauded. It seemed like a fool errand in light of what was going on in the world and the country. There were incredible pressures working against this moon mission. People, andthe nasa there were 400,000 at one point, had such a clear mission, they were able to put that aside and get going. Carol i love this line in your story. Of aitself was more confederation than a single agency. s whole idea of pulling everyone together for one idea of this whole pulling everyone together for one mission. It must be said it did not work flawlessly. The great tragedy was that in 1967, 3 astronauts died in a routine test. They trace the back to problems with the prime contractor. It turned out that the director of nasa had not known about the problems there. This led to his resignation and it was a big blow at a time when , at that point, 67 was getting pretty close to 1970. But they pulled together and managed to get it done. Carol Bloomberg Businessweek is available on newsstands now. Jason what is your mustread . Carol what we heard from peter coy. I love the story. Taking us back 50 years ago and what it took to put a man on the moon. I feel like he is kind of hinting at us that weve got some big problems and we can learn something. Yours . Jason i love catching up with brad stone on amazon. He can go deep on the amazon go story but then we get to spend a little extra time with him. Check that out on our podcast. Carol and you can find more stories on businessweek. Com. Jason and check out our daily show. Carol more Bloomberg Television starts now. Emily im emily chang and this is the best of Bloomberg Technology will bring you all of our top interviews from this week. Tech on the hill, all under scrutiny this week. Representatives from amazon, apple, and google, all on the defense. Plus, netflix needs to get stranger. Subscriberge after a plunge dip