President trump says the resignation of highprofile democratic lobbyist tony podesta is bigger news than the manafort indictment. Podesta is stepping down from his powerhouse firm after coming under investigation. Another highprofile elected republican official plans to bow out after his current term. Texas house representative jeb says he will not take the election next year. Because called serving the u. S. Congress the greatest privilege of his life. Global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. This is bloomberg. Emily im emily chang, and this is bloomberg technology. Coming up, capitol hill mea culpa. Facebook and twitter and google testimonies in washington. Lawyers from each tech giant answer questions on what one senator calls the National Security question of the 21st century. Plus, apple and qualcomms legal battle takes another nasty turn. We consider the beef from both sides and the implications for future iphones and ipads. What a woman for bitcoin. Reversing course today, plenty to introduce bitcoin future by the end of the year. First to our lead. Facebook, twitter, and google are having their day on capitol hill. Top lawyers from all three appeared before the Senate Judiciary committee to answer how russia manipulated their platforms to influence the 2016 u. S. President ial election. Facebook, google, and twitter executives told congress they are not sure they measured the full extent of russias manipulation in last years u. S. President ial campaign, and they do not yet have the technology to prevent it from happening again. We have found that foreign actors used fake accounts to place ads on facebook and instagram that reached millions of americans over a twoyear period and that those ads were used to promote pages that in turn posted more content. People shared these posts, spreading them still further. Many of these ads and posts are inflammatory. Some are downright offensive. We have uncovered more accounts linked to the russianbased Internet ResearchIndustry Based on our review and we determined that advertising by russia today in seven small accounts was related to the election and violated either the policies that existed at the time or that have since been implemented. We believe that the relatively limited amount of activity we found as a result of the safeguard in place in advance of the election and google products do not lend themselves to the kind of targeting or viral dissemination that these actors seem to prefer, but we are committed to continuing to improve our existing security measures to prevent that kind of abuse. Emily joining me now is someone who was at the hearings and also in studio is mark bergen. Sarah, i want to start with you. What were the Key Takeaways so far today . Sarah i think the opening testimony was one of the only times that the Tech Companies had the upper hand. For the remainder of the time, senators just poked holes in their promises. The companies came presenting themselves as prepared and proactive and committed to making sure that this does not happen in the future. The senators were able to gauge from the testimony that they do not currently and may never have the full capacity to prevent this from happening again. It was really a very revealing testimony. Also, i think the scope for which this is a problem became a lot more clear. Emily what are the interesting differentiations googling today is that google is different from facebook and twitter in that they made the claim that the protections they already have in place event at some of the stuff from spreading. They said it spread on social media. Mark i think they google claim has been they identified a much smaller pool of ads than facebook and twitter. You ditzy targeted questions around youtube, including russia today with congress and senators have been adamant that this is a propaganda tool for the russian government. A very popular youtube channel. The google lawyers evaded questions about that and about how much money google shares with their ad revenue. Emily on top of that, they did not just talk about russia but the threat from foreign actors in general, china, iran and north korea. There was a particularly Heated Exchange between senator kennedy and one of the lawyers. Take a listen to that. How about north korea . I am not aware of other foreign actors running the same sort of campaign. Can you be aware . You have 5 million advertisers, and you are going to tell me that you are able to trace the origin of all of those advertisements . Emily facebook general counsel taking a long pause before attempting to answer that question. How many times with a cut unaware . Sarah in particular, senator franken saying that trying to get him to say that facebook would stop inspecting political ads in north korean currency. Collin said, if we did that, and he for an actor can change the currency they are buying ads in. He would not commit to doing that, and it got pretty hard. A company was talking about the signal. All the companies were talking about how people run currency might be a good signal for them. Senator franken again was like, what do you mean signals . We are talking about illegal activity. For in spending on advertising to influence the u. S. Election is illegal. There are a lot of reminders like that that was the companies in place or at least the senators were trying to present this as a matter of law, not a matter of signals and data mining and what the companies see as their world. Emily which brings us to the question of responsibility and whether companies can deliver on this very big in critical responsibility. Take a listen to another exchange with a senator. You are taking responsibility for a lot of what happened here and trying to make some changes. There would not be an outside enforcer of any of your policies, right . It would just be you. Is that true . Not you personally, but your companys. Can somebody answer . That is correct. Emily that is correct. Mark, talk about the ability of these companies to actually deliver on this responsibility. Mark a lot of them mentioned we have fabulous Machine Learning tools and we are putting both humans and our ai to these resources. Facebook and google have had big screw ups about measuring metrics were people say they cannot grade their own homework when it comes to court advertising, let alone propaganda, these russian backed attacks. Emily a big question has been, when will these companies, especially facebook, release information on targeting, who these ads were targeted to . Sheryl sandberg said a few weeks ago that facebook promised to be very transparent on this point. We still, however, have not heard from Sheryl Sandberg or mark zuckerberg. Several lawmakers expressed disappointment that they were not on capitol hill today. When are we going to see that information . Sarah well, there were a lot of informations about timeline here and not a lot of answers. The companys overall were saying we will be communicative, we will keep in touch with your staff, we will look into what youre asking about and get back to you. There were a lot of questions about what be targeting looks like, but also who was manipulated, and do we know if people actually make decisions based on this . The company said, well, you know, we are focused on the content on our platforms. We do not know what people decided based on this. The senators did not quite take that as an answer. Emily another round of hearings coming up tomorrow with the house Intelligence Committee. What are we expecting . Sarah this hearing was more broadly focus not just on the russia subject but on others in general. They will ask about whether they know how the Internet Research agency got their data. There was a question about that today, but that is what gives the Intelligence Committee the link to whatever Political Campaign may have been working with them, if any. So i think it could get even more heated tomorrow. Emily all right. Sarah, you will be covering those hearings for us yet again on capitol hill. Mark here in the studio covers google for us. Thank you both. We will have much more reaction and analysis on todays hearing later in the show. Just a reminder, bloomberg is developing a network for twitter. Facebook disclosed a Russian Group spent 100,000 on ads to influence the 2016 election. How do they do it . It is more simple than you might think. Sarah frier file that report. Facebook tells us a lesson group spent 100,000 on ads to influence the 2016 president ial election. How did they do it . Is actually very simple. There are only three things you need to run a very sophisticated advertising campaign. A facebook account, the ad itself, and a credit card. Facebooks website will hold your hand to the rest to selfserving advertising. Lets say you havent you want to show to gun owners in pennsylvania. Simple. Facebook and reroute the ads of anyone that has posted pages about gun ownership using target at space on race, political affiliation, pretty much anything. Facebook and target specific demographic groups because it has so much information on its users, the articles the quick on, the pages that follow, what they like, all for targeting advertisers. There is information users provide themselves. The ads are meant to spur controversy over immigration, race relations, gun rights, and more. Facebook says that before as our distribution, they are sent for review, but it is a mostly Automatic Process that does not block commercial ads based on content, which means the russians were able to run thousands of ads with actually Incorrect Information and inflammatory political speech, which facebook users could not tell came from russia, and the Russian Group created fake accounts and pages to run the ads, which looked like they were coming from concerned u. S. Citizens. Just a little bit of money goes a long way. 100,000, the Russian Group was able to reach 10 million people. Remember that some states were won by nearly thousands of votes. I dont want anyone to use our tools to undermine democracy. Facebook recently said that to prevent election but english in the future, it plans to hire 1000 humans, but they still have not said what exactly the review parameters will be. Emily once again, bloombergs sarah frier reporting. Coming up, the patent dispute between apple and qualcomm heating up. Now they can turn to intel or mediatech, leaving the chipmaker behind. We have all the details. Bloomberg technology is streaming live on twitter. Check us out 5 00 p. M. Weekdays. This is bloomberg. Emily canadian startup shop i reported in earnings beat for the template in a row, and the Company Raised its outlook. The stock fell in the session on concerns over sustainability. One person called the company a get rich quick scheme. Apple is taking its patent licensing dispute with qualcomm to another level. Apple is designing iphones and ipads that do not use qualcomm components, something the iphone maker has been doing since 2010. However, the product plans are in the early stages and may still change. While still being decided, apple may use modem chips from intel and mediatech instead of qualcomm. Shares of qualcomms sake more than 6 on these reports today. That is the worst in months. There is ian king. There is a threat . How big is the threat they will not be in the next iphone . Ian it depends whether you really believe what is going on here. It is a long way until they have to make that decision. If they are already designing it, it is possible in terms of scaling it. It is about 1. 8 billion of revenue a year to qualcomm. Emily do you believe it, or do you think this is just posturing . Ian qualcomms earnings tomorrow, ask yourself, why did this come out . That is a viewpoint certain people have expressed. You have to rubber the most recently we heard from qualcomm was them dropping the nuclear bomb of trying to ban apple sales of the iphone in china, the manufacturing in china. Just when it seems like they reached the bottom point for their relationship, they managed to find another layer. Emily obviously investors are not excited about this for qualcomm. Take a look at a terminal chart 7413. You can see house since this dispute started, the divergence in apple shares and qualcomm shares, qualcomm shares just thinking. This has not been good news for qualcomm. Ian they have been massacred this year. It is the worst performing chip. The Philadelphia SemiconductorIndex Benchmark index, and that is a year when chip stocks have been hot, done really well. Everybody apart from qualcomm has had money pouring in. Clearly people are concerned. If that goes way, they are in trouble. Emily if apple does give it to these other companies, is there quality change . Ian this is why analysts have been cynical about this latest development. Would you really want to dump qualcomms modems . They are best in town when it comes to getting the highspeed data. Why would apple want to take that away from itself . Why wouldnt want the risk that someone says our phones are faster . Emily worstcase scenario for qualcomm, what is their back up plan . Ian to put more money to the research and development efforts. In china, that has been relatively successful. Both samsung and apple have lost market share to these chinese manufacturers. On the shortterm basis coming up he wants to give up apple revenue. Emily what are you expecting to hear tomorrow . Ian there is not really an awful lot they can say other than to say earnings are bad. The strategy they have in place, the legal disputes they have in place will take a while to work out to assert themselves to see whether they can win and he ground back, bring apple to the negotiating table, get is also, and get some licensing revenue get it all settled, and get some licensing revenue. It is probably next year. Emily i know you will keep us prized along the way. Thank you so much. Coming up, the status of bitcoin as a legitimate financial asset may be rising even faster than its price. We will bring you details, next. This is bloomberg. Cme group lands on introducing that going futures by the end of the year. The currency surged after the announcement. It could help professional traders get more seriously involved. The contract will settle in cash and feebased on the bitcoin reference rate. With scarletpoke about getting into the crypto world. If we decide get into the business under the rules in place here, the margin rules and Everything Else we can apply our tradition, i think we will be theuccessful area currency has passed yet another milestone. Total value over 100 billion sees the truste tripling by 2022. What the point is at the core is a new way to maintain a database. Introducing the concept of decentralization so that nobody is centrally controlling information, it is distributed on the nose to they achieve this because of encryption which is personalized. The core of the coin is a huge innovation and the way that data is made secure. Do you use that going to purchase things bitcoin . I do not but i also do not use gold. As anething is viewed alternative currency you cant dismiss it because it is not easy to spend you the u. K. Economy is 7 trillion. Guess how many pounds are in circulation. That just means 77 billion. There is a 100 21 multiplier on every unit. You might technically say most people are pending pounds digitally. I think people are contemplating that issue when they say you cannot spend it therefore it is not legitimate currency. The technology is revolutionary. That is different from bitcoin being the vehicle. Something we have heard a lot. I have been fortunate to spend a lot of time with businesses that have developed and i think what people have to appreciate is that bitcoin has drawn the most passion among qualified developers. There are more evil developing things on the coin then locked chain block chain. Reporter that was tom lee. Coming up, if you like what we are doing check us out on the radio. 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The dollar is slightly weaker but one week has fallen by the most 2008. Shares in shanghai rising for the second day as the data hit the mark and offshore bond market is making although the 10 year yield is falling. The dollar rising on tax reform optimism and the qe is outperforming after data dropped out of new zealand. Exportng off softer growth. Highlighting space on the right, copper, steel, iron or. Extending games after the best october in six years. That is a market snapshot area this is rumored. Emily we are continuing coverage of testimony on capitol hill today regarding russian meddling in the 2016 president ial election. Center Lindsey Graham minced no words. Aswe have to be on guard having people who want to undermine our way of life in these platforms against us. Nationalhis is a security challenge of the 21st century. Thank you so much for joining us. Talk to us about this through your experience in National Security and how critical a role these companies actually play in National Security in general. I was in the room for most of the hearing. I left early to get over here. Basically they have a big role to play and there have been resistant but i think it was here today as numbers on both sides of the isle were pressing them on issues not related to russian interference but other countries online operating. Terrorist groups, extremist using the platform in ways that are violating terms of service, causing National Security concerns and threatening to undermine our democracy. I think you heard a range of issues. The Tech Companies are starting to come under scrutiny and not just for ad purchasing problems by russians and their inability to track your was making his purchases but also groups like isis using these platforms and engaging in problematic at these as well. All over the globe. Lots of questions and not so many answers you how satisfied were you with the answers you heard today . Fromere has been progress one year ago but the answers are somewhat unsatisfactory. You are talking about a Global Platform not initially set up to deal with these problems. It is becoming clearer that there is going to be needing accountability whether that comes in the form of reporting requirements or transparency. The legislation out of the senate regarding ads, i think youre going to potentially see more areas where you rational involvement in you see pressure out of the eu in terms of getting extremist and terrorist content off platforms. In terms of monitoring who is buying their ads. That Campaign Laws were being broken and i think legislationg to the response to that. I think we have a ways to go. The first sign of dealing with the problem is admitting there is a problem so you have the admission that the Tech Companies are realizing that they are going to need to deal not just in terms of the election many problematic behaviors and activities on their platform. How do you suggest they handle dealing with this extremist contacts. Facebook is doubling security staff isnt something you believe these companies can do on their own or his Government Intervention necessary . I think there can be more on their own. Other issues, they do sort of change. Child pornography is a good example. They use technology to prevent the upload of pornographic imagery which is illegal and not permitted on their platform. They can vent upload for the Worst Technology for the same technology. You build a database to protect certain content from ever being online. They are really going to need to start i know companies pride themselves on people being anonymous are having anonymity but when you have Campaign Laws and people purchasing a product, in this case and added, you need to have transparency about who that is. If you dont see them being proactive theyre are going to probably end up having to face legislation and regulation. It seems like on the hill today the senators were suggesting they were taking them at their word but not trusting they will go as far as they need to without legislative solutions. The same waysal they approach child pornography, is that realistic . The scale of the child pornography problem, anything compared to the volume of extremist content we are seeing. On the child pornography side, the National Center for missing antics would it children houses a database that have been followed their, those images have prevented the uploads of tens of millions of images on these platforms. A similar approach can be taken with isis content. Put into a database and having the same Technology Preventing that from being uploaded to it is a good analogy, it is a applicable fix on the counterterrorism front. What do you make about other foreign actors like russia, iran, north korea. That is a really good question. That was brought up by senators where they asked the companies if they could give numbers or had a sense of what other countries are doing this. They did not have a grasp of the countries liket iran and north korea can do what russia was doing. Unless there are mechanisms it is going to be a problem not just in terms of election cycle but were all sorts of full, misleading, and imaging National Security content on their platforms whether that is counterintelligence operations or election interference down the line. Misinformation campaigns or terrorists or extremist bomb making videos. All of this can cause many problems not just in the United States but around the globe area always great to have you here on the show. The paired khamenei of bloomberg is developing a breaking News Video Network for Twitter Samsung Electronics announced the biggest ever with net income totaling 9. 9 billion in the third quarter. Numbers 1 were boosted by global chip sales, accounting two thirds of operating income. There was a shakeup at the top area the cfo will become chairman. The first time samsung has split of chairman and ceo duties. Coming up, the merging of tech and wall street has ramped up thanks to automation. You will hear from Citadel Security chief officers, this is bloomberg. Reporter with Machine Learning the use of new technology has never been more. A chief Information Officer at cityville is responsible for implement in the Market Technology driving the sureties business but also had a start in silicon valley. That is an interesting story. Most of my time has been in the valley, network appliance, cisco, juniper, the thing most interesting about the dells they afforded me an opportunity, a licensed to innovate one of the few things that really excites technologist, develop and deploy leading technologies in networking, storage, compute, bringing it all together at the same time. The second thing interesting to me was i found such a high concentration of talent. People talk about hiring the best and brightest, what i found is we have said bar so high that we are actually bringing in those types of evil. Having those types of people around you levels of your game and i i found that to be the case with me. The final thing was we will able to deploy new technologies in days and weeks as opposed to months and years ive been accustomed to and technologist just love seeing their reactions come to market area you make it sound like this is a more exciting environment than what everyone thinks is the holy grail. Tremendous amounts of excitement, i tremendous amount of information. Quite what specifically about your expertise did citadel need . We celebrate diversity of experiences and if you only have evil coming out of one sector, they think a certain way. Bring in people with the for Different Companies antics this, that allows us to print insights we can then apply to our core mission. A few words in storage, networking, and more what are you applying most . We are bringing them all. Networking is fundamental to our business. Compute and analysis is fundamental to the way we acquire and sit store data is fundamental. We bring it all together and usable once. Use it all at once. Help people understand the role that technology plays in a Marketing Firm like cityville. Arecore mission is mission is to provide a transparent market and we use technologies in many different ways. In equities we do analysis that allows us to provide the best liquidity, it enables us to optimize cost so that we can provide more efficient, costefficient transactions to our clients. Enables us to fulfill the new york stock exchange. Enableour technology to a prompt and smooth opening and close and on the institutional size, the our Technology Enables us to do that as well. If technology is the ax factor. One of the principal things that separates good excuse from bad ones. I have to believe there is an arms race going on. More, better, faster, more it applies to the infrastructure and technology but it applies to the people that we hire you we look to bring in people from tech centers in Tech Companies across the world. We were doing that just this year. Hired evile have from traditional tech firms. We are looking to connect before they graduate. Fonts eld 20 data data funds. Where do you want to hire people . We will hire good people from anywhere in the world but traditional take evil, the concentration in seattle and austin. Facebook, the companies of that nature . Startups as well. We are being very selective about it. Times me about the innovations. Technology is all about innovation. Talk to me about innovation you are anticipating and vomiting that will prove to be disruptive of securities trading. Data is at the heart of what we do and hour of the two analyze. People talk about Cloud Computing all the time. Cloud computing provides youth elasticity. You elasticity. Expand into resources when you could not possibly afford to own them, not costeffectively. Those are the types of things we look at. Is definitelyng the buzz of the day. A lot of folks do not understand it. They not they may not understand how we distinguish it from artificial intelligence. Machine learning is stateoftheart. What you are able to do is look at past patterns of data and correlate them with outcomes that occurred in the past they use the expression those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it to we can train a model based on what happened in the past month correlate it to the outcomes with that and use to predict what would happen in response to an unanticipated set of circumstances and improve the model overtime because we provide feedback. In many areashat of our business to get more insight into decisions that we make. Chief Information Officer at citadel to reduce speaking to eric. Coming up, best buy backpedals after backlash. Best buy stopped sales of the iphone after pricing\from tumors. They previously charged a 100 premium friday. Best buy, one of apples partners, said the 100 increase was attentional because of offering different purchasing options cost. Shares closed up over 1 ahead of earnings and the iphone x instore belief friday. Interesting, we first broke the story last week to they were charging 100 more. Instead of the 1000 price point, it was 1100 to they were saying these phones were an activated, they come at a premium cost. They were charging an 800 surcharge based on them saying they were the only ones doing it to apple does it for its own web right as well and they will do it pretty soon for the iphone x. Instead of basically saying you are not going to charge 100 anymore among their does not going to sell iphones at that for price at all. Reviews coming out, mostly aroundith the nitpicking the facial wreck. Reviewers have only been using this or about one day. Opinion be on it. Stay tuned for that. Is going to be interesting to see how the iphone 8 sales, given that there are no iphone x sales in q4. A muted response because people would line up early in the new iphone are waiting to the number 10. We are going to wait how that affects revenue thursday. What is your take on how demand will shape up holiday quarters for the iphone 8 and 10 given supply constraints. The iphone eight will be readily available, the success and smaller as he phones. Fe phones. It is 56 weeks in every region except hong kong. They shut off online sales because the demand was so high you it will probably go down from there but the question is waiting less . The last . Will you have to wait until february or march . To the amazoner ago. Upper 350, it is the pricing echelon. Someone else came out with a nice one for 200. It is actually quite good. Amazon has a slew of new echoes reedit apple has competition and they are much more expensive but we get our hands on it when it comes out and the how well it fares. Always great to have you here with the roundup. Looking ahead to Apple Earnings earlier this week for you later this week. That does it for this it is in. 5 00 in out weekdays at new york and 2 00 san francisco. 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